| prometheanfire | tonyb: https://review.openstack.org/365565 that look ok? | 00:01 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: I haven't looked yet | 00:01 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: I'll need to check how many libraries that affects | 00:02 |
| prometheanfire | k | 00:02 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: well, we already need to bump oslo.db and block at least 4.13.1 | 00:03 |
| prometheanfire | based off of https://review.openstack.org/#/q/is:open+starredby:tonyb+branch:master+project:openstack/requirements at least :D | 00:03 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: Right the u-c part is fine, it'd the g-r part that worries me | 00:03 |
| prometheanfire | ya | 00:04 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: how many things are you core on now? | 02:11 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: Oh a few, stable-maint, nova-stable, election, requirements, "calendar" and nominated for release management possibly others | 02:12 |
| prometheanfire | we need to get you core on more | 02:13 |
| prometheanfire | obviously | 02:13 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: it's been a fun couple of years | 02:13 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: Yeah all-the-things | 02:13 |
| prometheanfire | I wonder, between all the projects you work on, and sigmavirus, who has more | 02:14 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: Oh totally sigmavirus | 02:16 |
| prometheanfire | I'm not so sure | 02:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/364762 | 07:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | James Page proposed openstack/requirements: Set minimum positional version to 1.1.1 https://review.openstack.org/366631 | 09:42 |
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| prometheanfire | woo, not me this time | 11:56 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: I use NTP also, and we disagree on the time | 13:00 |
| dirk | if it helps, prometheanfire was also early for my ntp | 13:01 |
| dirk | maybe he's in the future ntp zone | 13:01 |
| tonyb | toabctl: WRT os-vif mreidem was very 'meh' on an FFE | 13:01 |
| prometheanfire | :P | 13:01 |
| tonyb | toabctl: said it was up to neutron PTL | 13:02 |
| tonyb | I'm fine with doign FFE | 13:02 |
| toabctl | hm | 13:02 |
| tonyb | s esp for u-c bumps as long as they're well thought out | 13:02 |
| tonyb | I kinda think if it's too much work to write an email then it isn't important | 13:03 |
| dirk | tonyb: so for os-vif, since it is about fixing a gating issue, we should be doing a FFE ? | 13:03 |
| toabctl | dirk, how can it fix a gating issue if it isn't used in the gate? | 13:03 |
| dirk | I would assume the assumption of the core group who approved that change was that it would end up in the gating | 13:04 |
| toabctl | afaiu the whole new os-vif release is used nowhere. | 13:04 |
| dirk | thats why I think we need to have the uc change merged | 13:04 |
| tonyb | dirk: Sure you can write the FFE but we'll need buy-in from nova, neutron and (to a lesser extent) release management | 13:04 |
| dirk | tonyb: ok, is the FFE process documented somewhere? | 13:04 |
| dirk | if all it needs is an email I can write email :) | 13:04 |
| tonyb | dirk: then go forth and write an email add [requirements][FFE] to the subject | 13:05 |
| tonyb | dirk: and possbly [nova][neutron] | 13:05 |
| tonyb | then we can as a whole community discuss it | 13:05 |
| tonyb | I can give my thoughts on the impact to $projects | 13:06 |
| tonyb | dirk: Like I said the impact on a u-c bump is pretty manageable really it's downstream that pay the highest price and y'all have already said you're not keeping up so .... | 13:06 |
| dirk | tonyb: well, we want to keep up with the version and package the right one | 13:08 |
| dirk | and thats why I'm trying to figure out which one should be packaged :) | 13:09 |
| tonyb | dirk: So the current statement has been that from requirements freeze dirstro's shoudl agressivly target packaging versions from u-c | 13:09 |
| tonyb | the ammoun of churn there is minimal at this stage and so on | 13:10 |
| tonyb | so I admit I'm not tied to a distro but I thought that was preety well understood | 13:10 |
| prometheanfire | ok, email sent | 13:11 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: cool, I'll reply tomorrow afternoon, as I'll need to assess the secondary impacts of the positional change | 13:11 |
| prometheanfire | yarp | 13:11 |
| dirk | tonyb: I'm good with that. | 13:11 |
| prometheanfire | I mentioned knock on effects as a negative | 13:11 |
| tonyb | and that means writing more code to do that assessment | 13:11 |
| dirk | tonyb: just wanted to make sure we're aligned.. | 13:12 |
| tonyb | dirk: okay. | 13:12 |
| prometheanfire | as a packager I wait til rc1 generally | 13:12 |
| dirk | tonyb: and as we seem to have a plan to fix that potentially post-branching its even better | 13:12 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: Sure that's much the same thing | 13:12 |
| prometheanfire | honestly the week before the release sees the most work | 13:12 |
| prometheanfire | I've been bitten by updates coming in late too many times :P | 13:13 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: Huh that surprises me. I can imagin nova or cinder causing a probalem but less so stuff from requirements | 13:14 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: don't we already have an FFE for the oslo.db bump? | 13:14 |
| prometheanfire | I don't package everything from requirements | 13:14 |
| prometheanfire | my actual target is nova/cinder | 13:14 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: No, but we can tack one onto the existsing thread, the u-c change is ok from my POV | 13:14 |
| prometheanfire | so I have to wait for the knock on effects to settle down | 13:15 |
| prometheanfire | ya, oslo.db can have the != stuff backported | 13:15 |
| prometheanfire | so it's better | 13:15 |
| prometheanfire | easier | 13:15 |
| tonyb | yeah | 13:15 |
| prometheanfire | I'm in favor of that, want me to -W the blocking bug? | 13:16 |
| prometheanfire | also | 13:16 |
| prometheanfire | do we want to unmask pymysql 0.7.7 once these things go in? | 13:16 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: I think we've missed the boat on pymysql | 13:17 |
| prometheanfire | that can be backported too, don't see a reason why it can't at least | 13:18 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: Sure it can be backported | 13:18 |
| prometheanfire | that's what I was meaning | 13:18 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: I know I was agreeing with you | 13:19 |
| prometheanfire | :D | 13:19 |
| prometheanfire | violent agreement | 13:19 |
| prometheanfire | ok, second FFE sent | 13:23 |
| prometheanfire | think that's it (for me) | 13:23 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: nn | 13:23 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: Yeah I shoudl do that thing. | 13:24 |
| dims | tonyb : late night or early morning? :) | 13:46 |
| prometheanfire | why not both? | 14:00 |
| dims | :) | 14:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hongbin Lu proposed openstack/requirements: Release docker-py version constraint https://review.openstack.org/366948 | 20:19 |
| tonyb | dims: late night .... | 20:41 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: :D | 20:44 |
| prometheanfire | woo, removing python3.3 from the tree now :D | 21:38 |
| prometheanfire | oops, wrong channel | 21:38 |
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