Friday, 2024-01-26

elodillesreminder: meeting in a couple of minutes13:52
elodilles#startmeeting releaseteam14:00
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elodillesPing list: elod frickler armstrong14:00
ttxo/14:00
elodilleso/14:00
elodilles#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/caracal-relmgt-tracking14:01
elodilleswe are @ L22514:01
frickler-o14:02
ttx~o~14:03
elodilleso//14:04
elodillesooookay, let's start! :)14:04
elodilles#topic Review task completion14:04
elodilles1st task was: 'Generate a list of intermediary-released service deliverables that have not done a release in this cycle yet and propose release model change for them (hberaud)'14:04
elodilleshberaud wrote: The same candidates, as usual, are listed there. So probably we don't need to change any of these to cycle-with-rc.14:05
ttxAgreed, no action needed14:05
elodilles(bifrost, ironic-prometheus-exporter, ironic-python-agent-builder, ironic-ui, networking-baremetal, networking-generic-switch and swift)14:05
* elodilles agrees, too14:06
elodilles2nd task: 'Propose convenience releases for Zed to ease the transition of Zed to Unmaintained and avoid rush and broken releases when the transition deadline is coming (elod)'14:06
elodilleswell, i'm late with this, will propose the patches after the meeting14:06
elodillesanyway, we have plenty of time till Zed Unmaintained transition14:07
elodilleswhich should happen ~1 month after Caracal release14:08
elodillesand these were all the tasks14:08
elodilles#topic Assign R-8 tasks14:08
elodillesall taken14:09
elodilles#topic Review countdown email14:09
elodilles#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails14:09
elodillesplease review ^^^14:09
elodillesfirst of all, i think we can delete the first section14:10
elodillesas we don't have model changing deliverables14:10
ttxHmm14:10
elodilleslooks better :)14:10
ttxAt that point, it's not worth two emails14:10
elodillesgood point14:10
elodillesOK, then let's just simply skip this14:11
ttxSimpler to skip it or turn the release schedule email into the regular email14:11
elodilles+114:11
ttx👍️14:11
elodillescool, let's move on then!14:12
elodilles#topic Open Discussion14:12
elodilleswe have two topics:14:12
elodilles- PTG participation signup14:12
elodillesyepp, we forgot about this one last cycle14:12
ttxthe call for participation is out and for once it would be good to not be late answering :)14:12
elodillesindeed :)14:13
ttxI think we can say we'll participate14:13
ttxand just schedule our usual open meeting14:13
elodillesyepp, let's do that!14:13
ttxI can let diablo_rojo know14:13
elodillesthanks!14:14
elodillesOK, then the 2nd topic:14:14
elodilles- (elod) Yoga to transition to Unmaintained - patches: https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:yoga-unmaintained14:14
elodillesthis is just a summery, kind of, that I've proposed the patches ^^^14:15
elodillesand we could start early next week merging these,14:15
elodillesmaybe not all of them at once,14:15
elodilles(though this was already tested with release-test repo)14:16
ttxok14:16
elodillesthere are still things to update in our tooling,14:16
fricklerI also proposed a fix for the validation for tagless branches14:17
elodillesfor example i'm planning to extend the eol_stale_branch deleting script14:17
elodillesfrickler: thanks for that!14:17
frickler#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90662614:18
fungias far as i know we don't have any large maintenance planned that would get in the way of those bulk branch deletion/creation changes next week, so should be fine14:18
elodillesfungi: ACK, thanks for the info!14:18
hberaudo/14:19
hberaudsorry to be late14:19
elodilleshi hberaud o/14:19
elodillesno problem :) we didn't have many tasks and topics :)14:20
elodillesOK, so that's it about the 'unmaintained' thing. any question or comment?14:21
elodillesor any other topic?14:21
fricklerdid you make progress regarding abandoning open reviews?14:21
elodillesi haven't started that, as I'll go with merging the yoga-eom patches first14:22
frickleralso, does this need to be announced on the ML, so ppl stop merging patches to yoga?14:22
fricklerIMO merging yoga-eom and deleting stable/yoga branches should not have much time in between14:23
elodilleswe can do that, though i thought the yoga-eom patches were self-explaining :)14:23
fricklerpretty sure lots of people will not be aware of them at all14:24
elodillesfrickler: yepp, the closer those two things are, the better14:24
fricklerright, and gerrit will only let you delete branches for which there are no open reviews, iiuc14:25
elodillesyepp14:25
elodillesanyway, i think that will be manageable :)14:26
elodillesi mean, we have a script that can be in some format reused for this :)14:27
elodillesso this shouldn't be a problem14:28
fricklermaybe the TC could send an announcement once the docs patch is merged (https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-team-guide/+/897505)14:29
fricklerstating that the release team will soon be merging things and deleting branches14:29
elodilles+114:29
fricklerJayF: rosmaita: ^^ wdyt?14:29
rosmaitalooking at the scrollback14:30
JayFI think sending an email once that is landed is a fine idea.14:32
rosmaitaJayF: elodilles: frickler: i could send an update if you like14:32
elodilles++14:32
rosmaitafrickler: JayF: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-team-guide/+/897505 could use some +2s14:33
rosmaitait's doc only, so i think it could be merged right away?14:33
fricklerI think so, yes14:35
elodillesokay, so we are on track with this :) anything else before we end the meeting?14:35
rosmaitaso my email will remind everyone that the yoga-eom tags are being merged, that nothing should be merged into stable/yoga, stable/yoga will be deleted soon automatically and unmaintained/yoga created14:37
rosmaitaand there is more info about the process in the project-team-guide14:37
ttxnothing from me14:37
rosmaita(i'm in another meeting, just want to make sure i've got that right)14:38
elodillesrosmaita: sounds good to me!14:38
rosmaitacool, thanks14:38
rosmaitaand thanks ttx and elodilles for reviewing the project-team-guide patch14:38
elodilles(we can continue the discussion after the meeting if needed)14:38
elodillesrosmaita: no problem :)14:38
fricklerrosmaita: if you want you can also mention that open reviews will be abandoned, but can be reproposed against unmaintained/yoga once that branch is created14:39
fricklerbtw. will there be bot patches to amend .gitreview?14:39
elodillesfrickler: hmmm, i think not14:39
elodilleslet me check14:39
rosmaitafrickler: good idea, i'll add that14:40
elodillesfrickler: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/release-test/+/90597814:40
elodillesso there is \o/14:41
fricklerelodilles: ah, great, so that should be fine then14:41
elodillesyepp14:41
fricklerhmm ... except the "create-yoga" topic is the same that was used when stable/yoga was created14:42
ttxI need to run to a medical appointment... have a good weekend14:43
elodillesbut at least it is clearly visible that its target branch is unmaintained/<yoga>14:43
fricklerhttps://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22create-yoga%22+status:open :-/14:43
elodillesttx: ack, see you o/14:43
frickleranyway we can end the meeting, sorry14:43
elodillesyepp, let's close the meeting, but we can continue the discussion of course14:44
elodillesthanks everyone for participating! o/14:44
elodilles#endmeeting14:44
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elodillesfrickler: unfortunately there are projects with failing gates (or no reviewers) where bot generated patches just get stuck forever :/ like: https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22create-2023.2%22+status:open14:46
elodilles(some of them are the ones that we marked with 'inactive' stamp recently)14:47
frickleryes, I plan to mark all of them as inactive based on this criterium for the next cycle, didn't get to it in time for this one. I just wasn't aware that the backlog reaches so far back14:49
hberaudthanks elodilles 14:49
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release ansible-role-lunasa-hsm for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90683314:55
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release ansible-role-thales-hsm for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90683414:57
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release aodh for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90683514:59
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release bifrost for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90683615:02
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release ceilometer for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90683715:08
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release cinder for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90683815:12
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release cloudkitty for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90684015:13
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release glance for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90684115:17
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release horizon for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90684215:21
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release ironic-inspector for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90684415:23
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release ironic-python-agent-builder for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90684515:26
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release ironic-python-agent for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90684615:29
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release ironic for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90684715:31
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release keystone for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90684815:33
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release keystoneauth for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90684915:34
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release keystonemiddleware for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90685015:35
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release magnum for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90685115:39
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release manila for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90685215:41
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release masakari for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90685315:43
frickleranother question: what is the plan for victoria through xena, in particular is there a schedule for those?15:44
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release metalsmith for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90685715:45
elodillesfrickler: well, since yoga is the most important priority, as soon as it is ongoing, we can start the same for xena-wallaby-victoria. at least that's how i thought15:47
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release mistral for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90685915:48
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release murano for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90686015:50
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release networking-generic-switch for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90686115:51
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release neutron-fwaas for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90686215:53
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release neutron for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90686315:55
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release nova for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90686415:57
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release octavia-dashboard for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90686515:58
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release octavia-lib for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90686615:59
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release octavia for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90686716:00
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release os-vif for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90687116:24
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release oslo.messaging for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90687216:26
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release ovn-octavia-provider for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90687316:33
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release python-manilaclient for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90687416:45
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release python-octaviaclient for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90687516:49
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release python-openstackclient for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90687616:50
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release sahara for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90687716:54
rosmaitaelodilles: ttx: frickler: JayF: here's a draft of the yoga-eom email, please leave comments: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/yoga-eom-messaging17:00
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release sushy for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90687817:00
elodillesrosmaita: looks good! thanks!17:03
rosmaitaelodilles: cool, I'll wait until 2000 utc for more comments, and will send it out later today17:04
elodilles+117:05
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release trove for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90687917:06
clarkbrosmaita: I would give people a timeline for when it things will happen and when changes will be abandoned for them (I think the openstack meta config allows this)17:06
rosmaitaclarkb: you are correct about the metaconfig, i'll add something17:09
opendevreviewElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release zun for stable/zed  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90690317:12
rosmaitaclarkb: elodilles: lmk what you think of the revisions in green on https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/yoga-eom-messaging17:16
clarkbI think that looks good17:23
JayFelodilles: clarkb: One small revision, I only include "by default" there because Ironic already has the ironic-unmaintained-core team setup17:48
JayF+ rosmaita ^17:48
rosmaitaJayF: sounds good18:44

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