| opendevreview | Yasufumi Ogawa proposed openstack/releases master: Release tacker RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894717 | 02:02 |
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| opendevreview | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release ceilometer RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894648 | 09:06 |
| opendevreview | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release blazar-dashboard RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894645 | 10:46 |
| opendevreview | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release venus RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894722 | 11:01 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release python-mistralclient and cut stable/2023.2 branch https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894747 | 12:42 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release python-monascaclient and cut stable/2023.2 branch https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894748 | 12:42 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release python-solumclient and cut stable/2023.2 branch https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894749 | 12:43 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release adjutant-ui RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894638 | 13:22 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release ansible-role-thales-hsm RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894642 | 13:32 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release ansible-role-lunasa-hsm RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894641 | 13:44 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release ansible-role-atos-hsm RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894640 | 13:44 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release neutron RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894692 | 13:44 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release blazar RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894647 | 13:44 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release blazar-dashboard RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894645 | 13:44 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release venus-dashboard RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894721 | 13:44 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release vitrage RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894724 | 13:44 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release vitrage-dashboard RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894723 | 13:44 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release senlin-dashboard RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894709 | 13:44 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release venus RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894722 | 13:44 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release solum-dashboard RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894713 | 13:44 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release solum RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894714 | 13:44 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release murano-agent RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894681 | 13:44 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release murano-dashboard RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894682 | 13:44 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release murano RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894683 | 13:44 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release masakari-dashboard RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894669 | 13:44 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release masakari RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894671 | 13:44 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release masakari-monitors RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894670 | 13:44 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release mistral RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894673 | 13:45 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release mistral-dashboard RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894672 | 13:45 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release neutron-fwaas RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894689 | 13:45 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release networking-bgpvpn RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894685 | 13:45 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release tap-as-a-service RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894718 | 13:48 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release ovn-octavia-provider RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894697 | 13:49 |
| elodilles | reminder: weekly meeting in 10 mins | 13:50 |
| hberaud | ack | 13:54 |
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| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release magnum RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894666 | 13:58 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release magnum-ui RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894665 | 13:58 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release designate-dashboard RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894653 | 13:58 |
| elodilles | #startmeeting releaseteam | 14:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Fri Sep 15 14:00:56 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is elodilles. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 14:00 |
| hberaud | o/ | 14:01 |
| elodilles | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/bobcat-relmgt-tracking | 14:01 |
| elodilles | o/ | 14:01 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release zaqar RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894728 | 14:01 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release zaqar-ui RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894727 | 14:01 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release manila RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894668 | 14:01 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release barbican RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894644 | 14:01 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release kuryr-kubernetes RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894663 | 14:01 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release designate RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894654 | 14:01 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release kuryr-libnetwork RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894664 | 14:01 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release octavia RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894695 | 14:01 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release octavia-dashboard RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894694 | 14:01 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release senlin RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894710 | 14:01 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release ceilometer RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894648 | 14:01 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release aodh RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894643 | 14:01 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release blazar-nova RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894646 | 14:01 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release adjutant RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894639 | 14:01 |
| elodilles | we are at R-3, line 411, very close to the bottom of the etherpad :-o | 14:01 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release monasca-agent RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894674 | 14:02 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release monasca-notification RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894677 | 14:02 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release monasca-api RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894675 | 14:02 |
| elodilles | and let's start! | 14:02 |
| elodilles | #topic Review task completion | 14:03 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release monasca-thresh RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894679 | 14:03 |
| elodilles | "Process any remaining library branching exception (all)" | 14:03 |
| elodilles | https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:bobcat-stable-branches+is:open | 14:03 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release monasca-ui RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894680 | 14:03 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release monasca-persister RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894678 | 14:03 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release monasca-events-api RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894676 | 14:03 |
| elodilles | hmmm, we have still some branching patches open | 14:04 |
| elodilles | I think we should merge them, except the python-barbicanclient one, but we have to ping the team there as it has to be merged ASAP | 14:06 |
| hberaud | wfm | 14:06 |
| elodilles | OK, I've added my +2s there | 14:07 |
| elodilles | hberaud: can you quickly check them? | 14:08 |
| opendevreview | Yasufumi Ogawa proposed openstack/releases master: Release tacker RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894717 | 14:08 |
| hberaud | yeah | 14:08 |
| hberaud | done | 14:09 |
| elodilles | thanks | 14:09 |
| hberaud | np | 14:09 |
| elodilles | next task then! | 14:09 |
| elodilles | "on monday force the milestone 3 patches that are still opened (all)" | 14:10 |
| elodilles | https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:bobcat-milestone-3+is:open | 14:10 |
| elodilles | none is open, so we are done with this task | 14:10 |
| elodilles | "On the Monday, generate release requests for all deliverables that have do not have a suitable candidate yet (elod)" | 14:11 |
| elodilles | this had multiple sub tasks ^^^ | 14:11 |
| elodilles | "Branch devstack-plugin-* delivrables" | 14:11 |
| elodilles | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894743 | 14:11 |
| elodilles | this is merged, so we are good | 14:11 |
| elodilles | "cycle-with-intermediary deliverables" | 14:12 |
| elodilles | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/893418 | 14:12 |
| elodilles | this is the only one still open ^^^ | 14:12 |
| elodilles | python-openstackclient | 14:12 |
| hberaud | I think we are late so I'd suggest to force it | 14:13 |
| elodilles | i had a comment on the patch as it is there are some merged patches that are not part of the release | 14:13 |
| elodilles | s/it is// | 14:13 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release sahara RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894708 | 14:14 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release sahara-plugin-spark RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894705 | 14:14 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release sahara-plugin-cdh RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894703 | 14:14 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release sahara-plugin-storm RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894706 | 14:14 |
| frickler | I can ping gtema about the osc release | 14:14 |
| elodilles | i was thinking whether we should update the hash before we proceed with the release | 14:14 |
| hberaud | frickler: thx | 14:14 |
| elodilles | frickler: that would be awesome | 14:14 |
| gtema | elodilles, sorry, missed to response | 14:14 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release sahara-plugin-ambari RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894702 | 14:14 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release sahara-plugin-vanilla RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894707 | 14:15 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release sahara-plugin-mapr RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894704 | 14:15 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release sahara-image-elements RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894701 | 14:15 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release sahara-extra RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894700 | 14:15 |
| gtema | more or less every day release change is not merged there is a big chance for new changes to come | 14:15 |
| gtema | there was nothing urgent merged after change was created | 14:15 |
| elodilles | gtema: now repos should have feature freeze on them o:) | 14:15 |
| gtema | but we have branched already | 14:16 |
| elodilles | gtema: not yet | 14:16 |
| elodilles | gtema: good point | 14:16 |
| elodilles | gtema: this is the patch: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/893418 | 14:16 |
| elodilles | python-openstackclient | 14:16 |
| gtema | ehm, I was sure I have seen a change for branching | 14:17 |
| opendevreview | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/releases master: Release placement RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894698 | 14:18 |
| gtema | you are producing so many changes in last days that I completely lost overview | 14:18 |
| elodilles | gtema: a general comment: it is good to avoid merging patches (especially bigger changes) between FF/branching and the final release, to avoid backporting conflicts | 14:19 |
| gtema | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/893619 - I was sure it was also for osc itself | 14:19 |
| elodilles | gtema: 1st we release non-client libraries then client-libraries and other cycle-with-intermediary projects. but i know, many patches o:) | 14:20 |
| opendevreview | Artem Goncharov proposed openstack/releases master: Release python-openstackclient for Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/893418 | 14:20 |
| gtema | ok, updated the hash | 14:20 |
| elodilles | thanks! | 14:21 |
| gtema | there was anyway nothing big landed in the meanwhile | 14:21 |
| gtema | wlcm and one more time sorry for missing to response | 14:21 |
| gtema | respond | 14:21 |
| elodilles | no worries | 14:21 |
| elodilles | i'll add the branching to it, too | 14:21 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release sahara-dashboard RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894699 | 14:22 |
| opendevreview | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release python-openstackclient for Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/893418 | 14:23 |
| elodilles | gtema: ^^^ | 14:23 |
| gtema | approved | 14:23 |
| elodilles | and that's all, i try to not bother you anymore o:) | 14:24 |
| elodilles | thanks! \o/ | 14:24 |
| elodilles | let's wait until the gate finishes with a Verified+1 and we can merge then | 14:24 |
| elodilles | hberaud: ^^^ | 14:25 |
| hberaud | ack | 14:25 |
| elodilles | cool. let's move on then | 14:25 |
| elodilles | "cycle-with-rc that are not trailing deliverables and that have not done a RC1 yet" | 14:25 |
| elodilles | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:bobcat-rc1-deadline | 14:25 |
| elodilles | most of them have been merged \o/ | 14:26 |
| elodilles | some -1s, that hopefully will be sorted out in a couple of days | 14:26 |
| frickler | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894717 is weird, it has PTL -1 but still PTL-approved +1 | 14:26 |
| elodilles | yeah, sometimes there are anomalies around PTL-Approved :S | 14:27 |
| elodilles | usually with another comment it is fixing itself | 14:27 |
| frickler | ok, nevermind, then | 14:28 |
| elodilles | hmmm. now that i'm looking at the patch, i guess it's because PTL has pushed the patch | 14:28 |
| fungi | can probably look at the build log for that job to figure out why it decided that was an approval, or improve the job's logging if not | 14:29 |
| elodilles | so it's a small bug in our job :P | 14:29 |
| fungi | aha, yes i bet that overrides the vote checking | 14:29 |
| elodilles | some finetune will be needed there in the job script then :S | 14:30 |
| elodilles | anyways | 14:30 |
| elodilles | note: we had to merge some release patch where there are gate issues, sadly :/ | 14:30 |
| elodilles | but that's the way we handled them in last cycles :/ | 14:31 |
| elodilles | mostly monasca and sahara deliverables related | 14:31 |
| elodilles | otherwise as I said, most of the rc1 releases are out! \o/ | 14:32 |
| hberaud | \o/ | 14:32 |
| elodilles | next task: | 14:32 |
| elodilles | "missed client library releases (repos that did not have any merged changes during Bobcat cycle)" | 14:32 |
| elodilles | i added this during the week, as i found some missing releases ^^^ | 14:33 |
| hberaud | everything is now merged | 14:33 |
| elodilles | https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:bobcat-client-lib-no-changes | 14:33 |
| elodilles | this was originally a sub task of R-5: 'Evaluate any non-client libraries that did not have any change merged over the cycle....' | 14:34 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [mistral] Create 2023.2 branch for client and non-client libs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894771 | 14:35 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [murano] Create 2023.2 branch for client and non-client libs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894780 | 14:35 |
| elodilles | there is a sentence on the process page, something like if we are not changing release model, then release them | 14:35 |
| hberaud | I see | 14:35 |
| elodilles | so we have to remind ourselves in next release to not forget this step o:) | 14:36 |
| hberaud | :) | 14:36 |
| elodilles | anyway, as you said, patches merged, so this is done! | 14:37 |
| elodilles | let's move on: | 14:37 |
| elodilles | "track the oslo.db and castellan isues to get it sorted out as soon as possible (hberaud)" | 14:37 |
| elodilles | hberaud: can you tell us about the status here? | 14:37 |
| hberaud | so, I think we won't see these releases moves on before the final release.... | 14:38 |
| elodilles | neither of them? | 14:38 |
| hberaud | a mailing thread is currently happening and are related more or less to these 2 deliverables issues | 14:39 |
| hberaud | yeah | 14:39 |
| elodilles | :/ | 14:39 |
| hberaud | both are related to services who are not compat with the new versions | 14:39 |
| hberaud | so services needs changes | 14:39 |
| elodilles | and i guess we are late for that :/ | 14:40 |
| hberaud | (mostly manila and masakari) | 14:40 |
| frickler | I've learned since last week that oslo.db >= 13 requires sqla >= 2.0, but does not specify that in its requirements | 14:40 |
| hberaud | yeah | 14:40 |
| elodilles | :S | 14:40 |
| hberaud | this mail summarize well the situation https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2023-September/035100.html | 14:40 |
| frickler | so I've also alerted the TC of this | 14:40 |
| hberaud | thanks | 14:40 |
| frickler | heat is also very far from adopting their db code it seems | 14:41 |
| elodilles | thanks | 14:41 |
| elodilles | so I guess we need to handle these similarly like we did in Antelope and Zed: we reverted the merged patches and did another releases, to avoid confusions | 14:41 |
| hberaud | yeah, heat, aodh, masakari, manila | 14:42 |
| elodilles | in this case oslo.db and castellan need the reverts | 14:42 |
| hberaud | hm... for oslo.db I think that would require several reverts... | 14:42 |
| hberaud | not sure this is a good approach | 14:43 |
| frickler | castellan is just a case of bad timing, they released early in the cycle, but then it got forgotten | 14:43 |
| frickler | for oslo.db I think they should be doing things in a feature branch really | 14:43 |
| elodilles | frickler: that's a good thing to think about in the future | 14:44 |
| hberaud | and requirements could be pined on the service side | 14:44 |
| elodilles | yes, we have quite many oslo releases: 13.0.0, 13.0.1, 13.1.0, 14.0.0... and all of them not used during the cycle but listed among Bobcat's releases :S ouch :S | 14:45 |
| hberaud | yeah | 14:45 |
| elodilles | so what should we do then? :/ | 14:45 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [sahara] Create 2023.2 branch for client and non-client libs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894777 | 14:45 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [monasca] Create 2023.2 branch for client and non-client libs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894781 | 14:45 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [glance] Create 2023.2 branch for client and non-client libs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894779 | 14:45 |
| frickler | hberaud: pinning on the service side doesn't work for a distro that can only have one release of a lib, ask zigo ;) | 14:45 |
| hberaud | frickler: I see | 14:46 |
| hberaud | elodilles: I'd suggest to update the Bobcat list | 14:46 |
| hberaud | (manually?) | 14:46 |
| elodilles | i'm not fan of that :/ | 14:47 |
| hberaud | to reflect the reality | 14:47 |
| elodilles | we don't want to change history | 14:47 |
| hberaud | me too | 14:47 |
| frickler | and then have no oslo.db in bobcat? or the latest from 2023.1? | 14:47 |
| hberaud | yeah | 14:47 |
| zigo | I agree with frickler: everything (and I really mean *EVERYITHING*) must be co-installable. | 14:47 |
| hberaud | (the last of antelope) | 14:47 |
| elodilles | is there any other option? :/ | 14:48 |
| frickler | well a large revert spam and redo all those things on a feature branch? | 14:48 |
| zigo | Yeah, reverse changes in these libs, and re-release. | 14:48 |
| hberaud | elodilles: merge stephenfin's patches on the service side | 14:48 |
| zigo | That's another option (a bad one, I admit). | 14:49 |
| frickler | hberaud: there are none for heat | 14:49 |
| hberaud | ah | 14:49 |
| zigo | And yeah, also that: fix problematic services. | 14:49 |
| hberaud | stephenfin: what do you think about reverting the oslo.db changes to rewind before the version 13.0.0? | 14:50 |
| frickler | we can do that next cycle, merge oslo.db bump early and then mark failing projects as release questionable instead | 14:50 |
| elodilles | to revert that amount of patches is painful, but maybe this is the best approach + what frickler suggests ^^^ | 14:52 |
| hberaud | you suggest to revert during C? | 14:53 |
| elodilles | nope | 14:53 |
| elodilles | revert ASAP, | 14:53 |
| hberaud | ok | 14:53 |
| elodilles | create an oslo.db 15.0.0 release, | 14:53 |
| elodilles | which is basically the same as oslo.db 12.3.2 | 14:54 |
| frickler | what's the deadline for all this, assuming we want to wait for feedback from stephenfin and TC possibly? | 14:54 |
| elodilles | and as frickler said: prepare a release for Caracal *very* *early* and fix services ASAP then | 14:55 |
| elodilles | frickler: i'd rather see this sorted out till next week's release meeting | 14:55 |
| frickler | oh, also maybe cut a feature branch from oslo.db before doing reverts so that state is preserved | 14:56 |
| frickler | and then the whole branch can get merged back later | 14:56 |
| hberaud | +1 to create a feature branch | 14:56 |
| elodilles | speaking of branches: we don't have stable/2023.2 on oslo.db either :-o | 14:57 |
| elodilles | nor in castellan | 14:57 |
| frickler | if we don't, then maybe we do not need the reverts | 14:57 |
| frickler | we could branch off an older state instead | 14:58 |
| elodilles | sorry, forget what i said | 14:58 |
| elodilles | we *have* stable/2023.2 there | 14:58 |
| elodilles | (i was on the wrong patch :P) | 14:58 |
| hberaud | np | 14:58 |
| frickler | but then the reverts would happen on stable/2023.2 only, right? and master could stay untouched | 14:59 |
| hberaud | that' a ton of reverts => https://github.com/openstack/oslo.db/compare/12.3.2..14.0.0?diff=unified | 14:59 |
| elodilles | frickler: that sounds good to me | 14:59 |
| hberaud | frickler: yeah | 14:59 |
| hberaud | but backports would become almost impossible | 15:00 |
| hberaud | if a fix is landed on master | 15:00 |
| frickler | well not worse than backports to 2023.1 I guess | 15:01 |
| hberaud | yeah | 15:01 |
| hberaud | exact | 15:01 |
| elodilles | 26 patches have landed since 12.3.1 on oslo.db, so yes, that is quite many :/ | 15:02 |
| hberaud | what's the amount of works to fix heat? | 15:02 |
| frickler | but that still sounds manageable, better than 100s | 15:02 |
| elodilles | though there are revert + trivial doc changes among them | 15:02 |
| frickler | hberaud: IIUC nobody knows exactly yet. but I saw a comment somewhere that sounded bad, let me check | 15:02 |
| hberaud | can't the TC force the other patches against services? | 15:03 |
| frickler | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/heat/+/886549/comments/37e3a9b7_a4caeb11 | 15:03 |
| frickler | the TC could at least put more pressure on those projects where patches are pending | 15:04 |
| hberaud | Stephin started his work 2 years ago and raised warning 2 years ago, are we sure that the same situation won't repeat again in 6 months? | 15:04 |
| hberaud | s/Stephin/Stephen/ | 15:04 |
| frickler | and maybe do closer tracking of progress | 15:04 |
| hberaud | that's my main concern | 15:05 |
| elodilles | so maybe ~15 out of 26 patches need to be reverted (or less if we are "lucky"), and hopefully without any conflicts... | 15:05 |
| hberaud | because maintained projects are stucks by projects with low maintenance... | 15:06 |
| frickler | gerrit cannot stack reverts automatically I guess, so it will need some manual work. but I think I would volunteer to do that | 15:06 |
| hberaud | frickler: thx | 15:07 |
| elodilles | oh, can't it? :-o | 15:07 |
| elodilles | i thought it handles that well | 15:07 |
| frickler | well I can give it a try | 15:08 |
| elodilles | anyway, thanks in advance frickler | 15:08 |
| frickler | so we decide to go ahead with that now and collect feedback on the reviews? | 15:08 |
| elodilles | frickler: i'm in favor of this approach | 15:09 |
| hberaud | let's go | 15:09 |
| frickler | ok, maybe I won't complete this today, but before Monday evening | 15:10 |
| hberaud | np that will lets time to people to react there | 15:10 |
| elodilles | agreed: revert oslo.db and castellan patches that causes problems on service side + contact with TC regarding the way forward | 15:11 |
| elodilles | is this OK then ^^^ ? | 15:11 |
| hberaud | lgtm | 15:11 |
| frickler | hmm, thinking about it a bit, the patches were all on master, so I think gerrit would place the revert onto master, too | 15:11 |
| frickler | so need to do it locally, but that should be fine | 15:11 |
| dmendiza[m] | Would be good to check with the Octavia folks to make sure they're not using the new Castellan APIs | 15:11 |
| frickler | dmendiza[m]: new castallan isn't in u-c, so I doubt they would | 15:12 |
| dmendiza[m] | ack | 15:12 |
| hberaud | frickler: and what's about services already migrated | 15:12 |
| frickler | all testing is using oslo.db 12.x currently due to u-c | 15:12 |
| hberaud | where Stephen's patches are already merged on the service side | 15:12 |
| frickler | and castellan 4.1.0 | 15:12 |
| elodilles | unless they use directly from master branch, what they shouldn't by default (though it's good to test against master branch in advance) | 15:13 |
| frickler | so they all should work with that, too | 15:13 |
| elodilles | as frickler says. they use 12.3.1 | 15:13 |
| elodilles | so that's good. | 15:13 |
| zigo | After B is released, I'd appreciate *a lot* if we can track all missing patches for SQLA 2.x... | 15:13 |
| elodilles | zigo: ++ | 15:14 |
| zigo | (so I can backport them in packages...) | 15:14 |
| elodilles | OK, so: | 15:14 |
| elodilles | #agreed: revert oslo.db and castellan patches that causes problems on service side + contact with TC regarding the way forward | 15:14 |
| elodilles | #agreed revert oslo.db and castellan patches that causes problems on service side + contact with TC regarding the way forward | 15:14 |
| zigo | The current sqla-20 tag isn't good enough, cause it includes what's currently already merged. | 15:14 |
| elodilles | i'll add a task to next week to track this on etherpad as well | 15:15 |
| hberaud | thx | 15:15 |
| zigo | Cheers. | 15:16 |
| frickler | zigo: we can only have one topic in gerrit, and I don't think changing the current one halfway through is a good idea | 15:16 |
| frickler | so we'd need to do some extra tracking | 15:16 |
| zigo | Agreed, an etherpad is probably better... | 15:16 |
| frickler | or you need to filter what's not in 2023.2 | 15:17 |
| fungi | sorry, had to step away for a moment. is there any risk that some services have merged changes depending on things that have merged in newer oslo.db from this cycle? or has constraints saved us from that? | 15:17 |
| frickler | fungi: the latter should hold true | 15:18 |
| elodilles | yepp (fingers crossed) | 15:18 |
| fungi | mainly make sure we watch out for oslo.db 15.0.0 breaking services that now need something which got reverted | 15:18 |
| fungi | hopefully won't come up | 15:18 |
| frickler | well the reqs bump should catch that | 15:18 |
| fungi | agreed | 15:18 |
| fungi | at least for anything that's tested on the reqs change anyway | 15:19 |
| elodilles | yepp :S | 15:19 |
| frickler | yes, but the number of cross jobs is pretty high. also only unit tests mostly, but we can't check everything | 15:20 |
| elodilles | hberaud: as an oslo core member, could you track this task? i can take over other tasks from next week if that helps you | 15:20 |
| hberaud | yeah | 15:20 |
| frickler | any special topic to use for the reverts? | 15:21 |
| hberaud | "revert-oslo.db-sqla2"? | 15:21 |
| elodilles | hberaud: thanks! | 15:22 |
| hberaud | "revert-oslo.db-sqla2-bobcat" | 15:22 |
| frickler | and "revert-castellan-bobcat", then? | 15:22 |
| elodilles | ++ | 15:22 |
| hberaud | yeah | 15:22 |
| zigo | "unf...-everything" ? :) | 15:23 |
| fungi | i wonder what the release notes for those are going to end up looking like | 15:23 |
| fungi | since i don't think reverting release notes actually removes them | 15:23 |
| frickler | well the release notes for oslo.db 15.0.0 would be empty, but we should likely add some explaining | 15:23 |
| fungi | so probably there needs to also be a change merged... yeah that | 15:24 |
| elodilles | fungi: we can check it as we did this already in the past :/ | 15:24 |
| elodilles | frickler: +1, some explanation would be helpful | 15:24 |
| elodilles | anyway, we are quite overtime on the meeting, so let's move on | 15:25 |
| fungi | i think this must be the longest release team meeting in many years | 15:25 |
| hberaud | sorry, I need to go grabbing my kids at school | 15:25 |
| elodilles | the discussion can be continued after the meeting | 15:25 |
| elodilles | hberaud: ack | 15:25 |
| * hberaud afk | 15:25 | |
| elodilles | fungi: i think so, too :/ sorry for that | 15:26 |
| fungi | no need to apologize! just an observation | 15:26 |
| elodilles | #topic "Assign next week tasks" | 15:26 |
| elodilles | all tasks taken | 15:26 |
| elodilles | #topic Review countdown email | 15:26 |
| opendevreview | Yasufumi Ogawa proposed openstack/releases master: Release tacker RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894717 | 15:27 |
| elodilles | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails | 15:27 |
| elodilles | please review the mail ^^^ | 15:27 |
| frickler | should that mail mention oslo.db and castellan maybe? | 15:28 |
| elodilles | frickler: good point | 15:28 |
| elodilles | let me add something about them | 15:29 |
| * elodilles is searching for the mail thread link | 15:30 | |
| elodilles | added a dramatic 'Warning' to the mail | 15:34 |
| elodilles | OK, let's move on, I'll send the mail some time later today | 15:35 |
| elodilles | #topic Open Discussion | 15:35 |
| elodilles | any other hot topic? :) | 15:36 |
| frickler | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894630 would be nice, but nothing urgent | 15:37 |
| elodilles | frickler: ACK, I'll review it :) | 15:37 |
| elodilles | OK if nothing else, then | 15:38 |
| elodilles | thanks for your patience and for your participation in the meeting! | 15:38 |
| elodilles | #endmeeting | 15:38 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Fri Sep 15 15:38:37 2023 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:38 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/releaseteam/2023/releaseteam.2023-09-15-14.00.html | 15:38 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/releaseteam/2023/releaseteam.2023-09-15-14.00.txt | 15:38 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/releaseteam/2023/releaseteam.2023-09-15-14.00.log.html | 15:38 |
| frickler | elodilles: "... are about to send out from them." sounds weird to me. "are about to be sent out" maybe? | 15:39 |
| elodilles | definitely sounds better, thanks! | 15:39 |
| frickler | also I'd move it in front of the actions block, for those who only read the first half of the mail ;) | 15:41 |
| elodilles | shame on them! :D but yes, I'll move it :) | 15:41 |
| elodilles | gtema: sorry for bothering again, i see now that there is an 'upgrade note' about the removal of the 'project purge' command, which in general warrants a MAJOR version bump: https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/dd2436c7e60c406db0bcb10a1df53df0/log/tox/list-changes/list-changes-results.log#1816-1823 | 15:47 |
| elodilles | gtema: do you stick to MINOR bump? | 15:47 |
| gtema | yes, reason is that is was since a very long time anyway broken | 15:48 |
| elodilles | gtema: ACK, thanks | 15:48 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release python-openstackclient for Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/893418 | 15:59 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release placement RC1 for 2023.2 Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/894698 | 16:07 |
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