Friday, 2020-02-21

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AJaegerrelease team, please merge https://review.opendev.org/708918 to update jobs05:02
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rakhmerovhi, can we backport patches with changes in setup.cfg?08:05
rakhmerove.g. changes in stevedore entry points08:05
rakhmerovttx: hi, may be you can advise08:05
AJaegerrakhmerov: could those break existing code?08:13
rakhmerovwell, no08:13
AJaegerrakhmerov: I mean: Adding lines is fine, changing sounds like breaking the API08:13
rakhmerovthat's what I'm trying to understand08:13
rakhmerovlet me show you...08:13
rakhmerovhttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/709057/4/setup.cfg08:14
rakhmerovI understand that it's not desirable to backport such patches, but I'm in the middle of making changes that I want to backport on top of this patch08:14
rakhmerovit will be easier for me to finish them if this patch can also be backported08:15
rakhmerovI'm changing code, yes, and setup.cfg so that a project needs to be reinstalled anyway08:15
rakhmerovbut I don't break API, main config file, DB schema etc.08:15
AJaegerrakhmerov: those lines look fine in that file - but to me it looks like it shows you break the API elsewhere.08:17
rakhmerovAPI? Why?08:17
AJaegerrakhmerov: I hear you - let's see what others say, might want to talk with stable team as well08:17
rakhmerovno, those python changes are not part of the API08:17
rakhmerovAJaeger: ok08:17
rakhmerovthanks08:17
AJaegerrakhmerov: you might be right - I don't know the code good enough. It just smells like API change ;)08:18
rakhmerovno-no, I reassure you :)08:18
AJaeger;)08:24
rakhmerovAJaeger: also wrote this question to #openstack-stable08:25
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ttxhi!10:05
ttxAJaeger: done10:05
AJaegerthanks, ttx!10:06
ttxrakhmerov: It's more of a stable question, but we have limited activity in #openstack-stable those days10:08
ttxrakhmerov: it's definitely a grey area, I think it would be worth raising it on the ML to get wider feedback10:08
ttxMy personal 2c would be: we avoid refactoring in stable patches, especially if that refactoring ends up affecting public function names, and even more if those are exposed by setup.cfg. But I guess it's a trade-off with how important it is to backport the patch that lives on top of that refactoring... and how painful it would be to adapt that patch so that it would live on top of non-refactored10:11
ttxcode10:11
rakhmerovttx: ok, got it10:12
rakhmerovI'll try to avoid backporting it I guess10:12
ttxI can think of a few examples where a security patch lived on top of lightly-refactored code that was affectign public, but rarely-used functions... and that was deemed a good trade-off10:13
ttxBut here it sounds like a bit too far on the "user-visible change to facilitate unrelated backporting" side10:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Update docs publishing job  https://review.opendev.org/70891810:26
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release Adjutant 0.5.0  https://review.opendev.org/70879410:57
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evrardjprakhmerov: (and ttx) my opinion is that it's indeed in grey area -- though here the functions exposed aren't changed themselves, only their implementation in setup.cfg. So for me, this is only a refactor, not an interface change. An interface change in stable is a no-go by default (basically unless no choice). The refactor in a stable branch is, for me, up to the project, but there is probably not many reasons to want11:49
evrardjp this, except to backport other bugfixes later in an easier fashion. In any case, that should be documented on _why_ it is done .11:49
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mgoddardHello, I'd like to release some kayobe branches that existed prior to becoming an official deliverable.14:08
mgoddardIs there someone that can help with that?14:08
mgoddardI'd like 6.1.0 on stable/stein, and 5.1.0 on stable/rocky14:09
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release os-brick 3.0.0  https://review.opendev.org/70895714:26
smcginnismgoddard: Pre-official deliverables would have had to have been done directly by the team.14:33
smcginnismgoddard: Not sure about the ACLs, but you would just need to push a tag on those branches.14:33
mgoddardhmm, I assumed it wouldn't work, but let me try14:34
smcginnisttx: Do we have any similar situations in the past for that? ^14:35
mgoddard ! [remote rejected] 6.1.0 -> 6.1.0 (prohibited by Gerrit)14:35
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ttxNo, branches need to be created manually15:52
ttxhmm, sorry let me have a look15:52
ttxAh yeah, the issue is that you are limited by the ACL. We can probably push those mnanually for you15:53
ttxIIRC members of the "Release Managers" group should be able to push the tag, doublechecknig15:54
ttxor infra15:55
ttxsmcginnis: so we should push the signed tag, as the ACL is not branch-specific. Iguess we could make it branch-specific, but pushing it ourselves is simpler15:55
openstackgerritKristi Nikolla proposed openstack/releases master: stable/rocky releases for keystone deliverables  https://review.opendev.org/70916515:59
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smcginnismgoddard: Looks like I can do that. To confirm before I do anything, that would be the following tags:16:20
smcginnistag 5.1.0 on stable/rocky, commit 755bc38ce1d4867855dae0cdee81269a1e14edf216:20
smcginnistag 6.1.0 on stable/stein, commit 26c8abc6642af90e1436b68c4fedad27c40f7cae16:21
mgoddardsmcginnis: +116:21
smcginnisOK, I'll give it a shot now.16:21
mgoddardthanks16:21
ttxFeels like 2014 all over again16:25
smcginnis:)16:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release ussuri beta1 of neutron and related projects  https://review.opendev.org/70890916:32
smcginnismgoddard: Post tagging release jobs are running.16:34
mgoddardgreat, thanks smcginnis!16:36
smcginnisNo problem!16:39
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smcginnisttx: Did you want me to put the proposed release schedule the ML?16:39
smcginnisI think in the past we just decided, but I could be forgetting.16:40
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ttxsmcginnis: we decide, but it's good to open for comments, just in case we missed something obvious16:50
smcginnis+116:50
openstackgerritKristi Nikolla proposed openstack/releases master: stable/rocky releases for keystone deliverables  https://review.opendev.org/70916516:52
ttxsmcginnis: see https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709047/116:53
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/releases master: Release openstack-doc-tools, os-api-ref,openstackdocstheme  https://review.opendev.org/70920017:53
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knikollasmcginnis: i'm not quite sure why https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709165/ is failing on the sdist build.18:03
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smcginnisknikolla: Ah, it's a reno issue we've seen elsewhere.18:15
smcginnisknikolla: You will need to do something like this: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:reno-3.0.0+(status:open+OR+status:merged)18:15
smcginnisAJaeger: Do you want to pick up that just merged URL fix for the openstackdocstheme release?18:17
AJaegersmcginnis: yes, didn't I include it?18:17
smcginnisAJaeger: Oh, maybe. I was just looking at the timing, and I didn't think it merged until after you had proposed the patch.18:18
AJaegersmcginnis: I was lucky it just worked ;)18:18
smcginnisSorry, I actually looked at the list-changes output, and you did indeed get it. I should have looked first before saying anything. :)18:18
AJaegersmcginnis: https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/3ac45693384249c09fc4f74dd44c41c4/log/job-output.txt#170418:19
AJaegersmcginnis: I was expecting to recheck because of the timing - and then it passed, so wondered already whether I screwed up...18:19
smcginnisVery good timing. ;)18:20
AJaeger;)18:20
AJaegersmcginnis: thanks for double checking!18:20
knikollasmcginnis: would that patch get an exception to rule 4 or does it need to go through master->train->stein->rocky in succession? https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#appropriate-fixes18:21
smcginnisknikolla: Since it is just a release note configuration change, I do not think it needs to go step by step. Should be able to propose and merge it to all right away.18:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release openstack-doc-tools, os-api-ref,openstackdocstheme  https://review.opendev.org/70920018:32
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mlavallediablo_rojo: hey, for this year, are we only going to have this event: https://www.openstack.org/events/opendev-ptg-2020/?18:49
diablo_rojo_phonmlavalle: no, there will be a summit + ptg in October as well18:53
mlavallediablo_rojo_phon: do we know where?18:53
mlavallesorry to bother, but I have to make a budget18:53
diablo_rojo_phonmlavalle: Berlin. It was in the last foundation newsletter :)18:54
diablo_rojo_phonNo problem at all!18:54
knikollasmcginnis: Thanks for all the help! I tried that locally and it seemed to work https://review.opendev.org/#/q/I28fd0fd499c40e33ff164fd643dadd6ac9009b1718:57
mlavallediablo_rojo_phon: should we expect discount codes for code contributors? If yes, do you know how much would we pay?19:00
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diablo_rojo_phonmlavalle: I don't think it need decided yet but I think they were leaning towards not doing discounts this time?19:16
diablo_rojo_phonI would email Kendall Waters about that one.19:17
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mlavallediablo_rojo_phon: ah, ok, I'll ask your tocaya20:10
mlavalleThanks!20:10
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diablo_rojo_phonmlavalle: no problem!20:27
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