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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Update process for R-3, R-2 and R-1 weeks https://review.opendev.org/686169 | 07:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: stable/queens release oslo.messaging 5.35.6 https://review.opendev.org/686395 | 12:52 |
| ttx | smcginnis: not sure where I'll be at meeting time, so don't wait for me | 13:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases master: nova: release stein 19.0.3 https://review.opendev.org/686301 | 13:30 |
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| smcginnis | ttx: Ack, thanks | 13:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: improve readability of schedule table https://review.opendev.org/686420 | 15:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: Release Puppet OpenStack Train RC1 https://review.opendev.org/686431 | 15:51 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: are we branching stable/train, right? ^ | 15:53 |
| mwhahaha | maybe? | 15:53 |
| mwhahaha | i don't think so | 15:54 |
| mwhahaha | i thought we do the rc1 and then follow up with a branch? | 15:54 |
| * mwhahaha never remembers | 15:54 | |
| EmilienM | it usually depends | 15:54 |
| EmilienM | sometimes it's done between rc1 and rc2 | 15:54 |
| EmilienM | let's do it now | 15:55 |
| EmilienM | so it's done | 15:55 |
| mwhahaha | fine with me | 15:55 |
| smcginnis | RC's should include a stable branch. | 15:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: Release Puppet OpenStack Train RC1 https://review.opendev.org/686431 | 15:56 |
| EmilienM | done :D | 15:56 |
| smcginnis | Thanks! | 15:56 |
| EmilienM | smcginnis: the YAML are generated by our tooling -(https://github.com/mwhahaha/gluebox) that's why the modification is big | 15:57 |
| EmilienM | but no big deal | 15:57 |
| mwhahaha | i stopped using that for the release stuff | 15:58 |
| mwhahaha | and just use the venv new-release | 15:58 |
| mwhahaha | because we had issues with tox linting | 15:58 |
| EmilienM | oops | 15:58 |
| EmilienM | we'll see if my patch pass the test | 15:58 |
| mwhahaha | i only use my script for metadata bumping | 15:58 |
| mwhahaha | i would abandon and do it with the new-release bits | 15:58 |
| EmilienM | ah ok | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Release team, just finishing up a meeting, so need a few minutes before I can get our meeting going. | 16:00 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Sounds good! - me + ttx | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | OK, done. | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | #startmeeting releaseteam | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 3 16:02:08 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | Ping list: smcginnis ttx dhellmann diablo_rojo hberaud evrardjp armstrong tonyb | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/train-relmgt-tracking Agenda | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | Line 552 | 16:02 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 16:02 |
| armstrong | o/ | 16:02 |
| * diablo_rojo_phon and ttx wave from the bar in Stockholm | 16:03 | |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:03 |
| evrardjp | wow that day went fast | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | #topic Purge any remaining RC1 exceptions | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Purge any remaining RC1 exceptions (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:03 | |
| smcginnis | I think we're actually good on RCs. | 16:03 |
| evrardjp | thanks for handling that, boss | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | There's the puppet one, but that is a cycle-trailing deliverable. | 16:03 |
| evrardjp | :p | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | :D | 16:04 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | All good then basically? | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | #topic Approve all branch patches without PTL feedback | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Approve all branch patches without PTL feedback (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:04 | |
| smcginnis | yep | 16:04 |
| evrardjp | how did you get a cycle trailing in your list? | 16:04 |
| evrardjp | a convo for later :p | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/releases+branch:master+topic:stable-train | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: Just visual inspection of the open patches. | 16:05 |
| evrardjp | got it | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | We have had a few PTL acks, but a few remaining. | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | Most of which I don't actually expect an ack based on past history. | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | So I think we can approve those. | 16:05 |
| evrardjp | what about the others, like patrole? | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | Unless there is something very critical, I don't think these will have another release anyway. | 16:05 |
| evrardjp | o | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | ok* | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | I think patrole went out yesterday or the day before. | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | oh my bad I missed that one then | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | good | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | Yep - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685430/ | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | yup just saw it | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | my bad | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | oh wait | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | Oh, stable branch. | 16:07 |
| evrardjp | that isn't branched | 16:07 |
| evrardjp | :) | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | I'll get a patch submitted for that. It was a timing window between the others I picked up and that patch landing. | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | So I'll double check missing stable branches. | 16:07 |
| evrardjp | I think with this one and the dashboards we should be good | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | I may be missing it, but I thought we had an easy script for that in the past, but now I'm not seeing it. | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | You'd think I'd have a handle on our tools and cmds by this point, but nope. | 16:08 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: didn't you write it? :p | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: I blame Doug. :D | 16:08 |
| evrardjp | haha | 16:08 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | And ttx ;) | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | If the rest of you can review those open branch patches, I will get the patrole one added after the meeting. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | We also had "Discuss standing -1s on branch patches" on the agenda, but I don't think we have any at this point. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | Anyone aware of anything? | 16:10 |
| evrardjp | nope | 16:10 |
| evrardjp | means it's all good I guess :) | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | #topic | 16:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:11 | |
| smcginnis | #topic | 16:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:11 | |
| smcginnis | That's annoying | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | #topic R-1 email content final review | 16:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "R-1 email content final review (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:12 | |
| smcginnis | \o/ | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | IRC is sooo complicated. : | 16:12 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | smcginnis: hi! Ttx here | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails | 16:12 |
| evrardjp | mornings, right? | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo_phon has a split personality | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | Line 531 in the email etherpad | 16:13 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Are we ready to do all the qa branching stuff? | 16:13 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | ^ttx | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | I think so. Only major outstanding one that doesn't have a stable branch is swift, but sounds like they won't be ready until the deadline next week. | 16:13 |
| evrardjp | I didn't ping gmann :/ | 16:13 |
| gmann | o/ | 16:14 |
| evrardjp | glad smcginnis handled it! | 16:14 |
| evrardjp | woot | 16:14 |
| gmann | yeah, waiting for all required projects to be branched | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | gmann: Do we need to wait for swift to create stable/train before we can do the qa branching? | 16:15 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Swift should have a branch | 16:15 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I +2d that earlier | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | Our deadline for cycle-with-intermediary is Oct 10. I spoke with Tim yesterday and they were still working on a bug. | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | Or did I miss a new patch? | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | Huh, I did - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686315/ | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | OK, that is on its way. | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | gmann: I will ping you once the swift stable branch is created. | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | I think that's the last one needed. | 16:17 |
| gmann | thanks | 16:17 |
| gmann | smcginnis: we need swift for branching before. | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | gmann: We should have that within the hour. | 16:18 |
| gmann | ok | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | OK, back to the countdown email. | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | All looks good to me. | 16:18 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | But the swift branch cutting is in that patch right | 16:19 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Ok | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | I will plan on sending that out tomorrow my morning, so if anyone has anything they want to change, just let me know or update the etherpad. | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | Not enough train noises translated in the email. | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo_phon: Yep, release and branch. | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | but the rest seems good | 16:19 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Ignore me < ttx | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | Maybe I'll add a few gifs to it. :) | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | diablo_rojo_phon: we do | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | Hah! | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | that scare on switch not being branched in that patch! | 16:20 |
| evrardjp | aaargh | 16:20 |
| evrardjp | swift* | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | Oh, forgot I'm out tomorrow. I should still be able to get the countdown out, but I will not be around on IRC. | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | Email, text, whatapp, hangouts, etc if you need me for anything. | 16:21 |
| evrardjp | will there be anyone available tomorrow? | 16:21 |
| evrardjp | that might change how I organise my day to help a little more here | 16:21 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Ttx and I both fly home tomorrow so... Just you evrardjp ;) | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo_phon: Both of you are still traveling tomorrow, right? | 16:21 |
| evrardjp | ok | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | Ah, guess you're our only hope evrardjp-kenobi. | 16:21 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | You got this. | 16:21 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Lol | 16:21 |
| evrardjp | ok, time to conquer the world, pinky | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | Sorry to put you on the spot. I will try to check in if I can, but I can't promise anything. | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | Hoping for a quiet Friday. | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | take over the world* sorry I just know it in french | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | :O) | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: no worries | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | #topic Review/assign next week tasks | 16:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review/assign next week tasks (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:23 | |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Ttx said he would be around a few hours | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | Great, thanks diablo_rojo_phon-ttx. :P | 16:23 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Lol | 16:23 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | No problem. | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | :) | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | So tasks... | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | Process all remaining stable branching exceptions | 16:24 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | This passing my phone back and forth has been quite entertaining. | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | I think we can all cover that one. | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | Haha, I wish we had video. | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | "check the list of unreleased changes for cycle-with-rc projects and verify with the PTLs and liaisons that they are planning a release" | 16:24 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: I am not sure you want that | 16:24 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | The next time he's got my phone I'll get someone to take a picture. | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | +1! | 16:25 |
| evrardjp | :) | 16:25 |
| evrardjp | tell him to buy himself a phone | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | I can take this one unless someone else wants to take it. | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | Just need to run the script to see who has committed changes that have not been picked up in an RC2. | 16:26 |
| evrardjp | I can help at the beginning of the week | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: Want to take that, and if you can't get to it I'll be your backup? | 16:26 |
| evrardjp | sounds good | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | "Test the final release process using the openstack/release-test repository to ensure our machinery is functional." | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | A good safety check. | 16:26 |
| fungi | the canary in the coal mine | 16:27 |
| evrardjp | yeah. Not sure what it fully entails though | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | Seems like we should be good at this point, but we don't want anything going wrong in the middle of the final release. | 16:27 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | evrardjp: I can probably help too | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | Just need to do a release of release-test as if it's a final release and make sure nothing goes boom. | 16:27 |
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| evrardjp | smcginnis: small canary in small mine :) | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo_phon or evrardjp: Do one (or both) of you want to take that task? | 16:27 |
| evrardjp | yup let's take that one | 16:28 |
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| evrardjp | if necessary we'll ping you | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | Thanks! | 16:28 |
| evrardjp | we'll compare with previous canaries :) | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | ttx already signed up for the R-0 email draft. | 16:28 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Sounds good. | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | "use propose-final-releases to tag the existing most recent release candidates as the final release" | 16:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: swift 2.23.0 release and stable/train branch https://review.opendev.org/686315 | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | I can take that one. Again, unless someone else really wants to take it. | 16:29 |
| evrardjp | It's yours to take I think :p | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | Done | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | "Notify the documentation team that it should be safe to apply their process to create the new release series landing pages" | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | They've usually been on top of this, but with the transition to SIG, probably more important to make sure someone takes care of it. | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | I can do that one. | 16:30 |
| evrardjp | thanks | 16:30 |
| evrardjp | it's not yet transitioned to a sig due to... this kind of things for example :) | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | And last task, ttx will post a patch to update process. | 16:31 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | He says he did. | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: Yeah, I'm still not sold on that idea. But I also don't have a lot of say either. | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo_phon: OK, thanks. | 16:31 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | No problem | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | That's it for next week's tasks. | 16:32 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: not sure many of us have anything to say about this :) | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open discussion | 16:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:32 | |
| evrardjp | nothing to add. | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | Oh, one update. I emailed tonyb to see how he's doing. | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | It's been crunch time for him, so sounds like the decision to hand off was a good one. | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | He is hoping to be back soon though. | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | Which I was very happy to hear. | 16:33 |
| evrardjp | yeah that's good news | 16:33 |
| fungi | yay! | 16:33 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Yay! | 16:33 |
| evrardjp | hope he is fine far down under :) | 16:33 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | He's coming back from the future? | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | Until then though, I'm wondering if we should try to get multiple eyes on the stable release patches and approve them once we've had a few reviews since waiting for a Monday stable review day isn't really working out right now. | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo_phon: Haha, yep. | 16:34 |
| evrardjp | diablo_rojo_phon: not sure to understand... it's because it's summer already for him ? | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | Spring I think. | 16:34 |
| evrardjp | correct | 16:34 |
| fungi | spring just started in his hemisphere, yeah | 16:34 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | evrardjp: it's Friday for him. | 16:34 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | He lives in the future. | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | Bizzaro land :) | 16:34 |
| evrardjp | I feel like it is for me already | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | Hah | 16:35 |
| evrardjp | or it should be | 16:35 |
| fungi | late thursday night there at least | 16:35 |
| evrardjp | more likely it should be :p | 16:35 |
| evrardjp | confusing summer and spring | 16:35 |
| evrardjp | anyway! | 16:35 |
| evrardjp | good news indeed! | 16:35 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | 2:35 am Friday in Canberra | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | Alright, I don't really have anything else. Looks like we're in decent shape. | 16:36 |
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| smcginnis | Anything else before I close out the meeting? | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | OK, thanks everyone! | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 3 16:37:20 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-10-03-16.02.html | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-10-03-16.02.txt | 16:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-10-03-16.02.log.html | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: Would you mind hitting https://review.opendev.org/686170 quick? | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | Any if we can get reviews on the stable branch creation patches, we really should get those through. | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo_phon: There's a glance cycle highlights patch that I think was waiting for you to take a look through. | 16:38 |
| smcginnis | Probably too late anyway, but good for history. | 16:38 |
| evrardjp | I will do it | 16:38 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I'll check it out tonight/tomorrow morning. | 16:38 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Ehhh might be able to get it in still. | 16:38 |
| smcginnis | Thanks! | 16:39 |
| fungi | d'oh, i missed open discussion, but... | 16:40 |
| fungi | #link https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xbba3b1e67a7303dd1769d34595bf2e4d09004514&fingerprint=on OpenStack Infra (Ussuri Cycle) artifact signing key | 16:40 |
| fungi | that's ready, i'll push up changes to start using it after the release | 16:40 |
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| smcginnis | Nice! Thanks fungi. | 16:41 |
| fungi | no problem | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Do you have a link to that process again somewhere where others like me can validate it? | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | I forget what that's even called now. | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | Probably referenced in our docs. | 16:41 |
| evrardjp | key signing? | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | Ah, attestation. | 16:42 |
| fungi | https://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/signing.html#attestation | 16:42 |
| smcginnis | Thanks! | 16:43 |
| fungi | attestation is a word for the concept, while key signing is a more specific process for achieving it | 16:43 |
| fungi | s/achieving/signifying/ | 16:44 |
| fungi | so you attest to the validity of the key by signing it and publishing that signature, but the goal and intent is the attestation, not the mechanics of how you indicated it | 16:44 |
| evrardjp | yeah. my bad, as usual, jp is not using the right words | 16:45 |
| fungi | they're all right words, just explaining why i chose the specific words i did for the documentation | 16:45 |
| evrardjp | I never doubted you using the right words fungi :) | 16:46 |
| fungi | i also wanted to bring up that with the opendevification of all things, we've talking about ways to generalize and also enable self-service for artifact signatures and signing key management | 16:48 |
| fungi | i think we still intend to maintain a system-wide artifact signing solution anyone can rely on to prove that artifacts created in opendev haven't been tampered with | 16:49 |
| fungi | though will likely stop tying it to openstack releases (maybe annual rotation instead) and will switch to a non-openstack-specific e-mail addres for the key's uid | 16:50 |
| fungi | but also the current process we're following can really be followed independently by any project, since the only bits which need to touch opendev are injecting the desired signing subkey into a zuul secret | 16:51 |
| fungi | so if the openstack project still wanted a per-cycle key of its own, that could easily coexist (though we might need some tweaks to the job to iterate over multiple keys and create multiple signatures) | 16:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Add train release note links https://review.opendev.org/686170 | 16:53 |
| fungi | we're also talking about whether running a stand-alone barbican for opendev could provide an alternative place to generate and share team/project-specific private keys down the road | 16:53 |
| fungi | which seems to me like it could be another synergy of openstack's software and opendev's services | 16:54 |
| fungi | similar to our ideas about using a stand-alone keystone for sso id management in opendev's various disparate services | 16:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: stable/rocky release oslo.messaging 8.1.4 https://review.opendev.org/686454 | 17:46 |
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| evrardjp | I like the idea of having opendev signed artifacts based on projects. I can totally see it useful outside openstack | 19:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: improve readability of schedule table https://review.opendev.org/686420 | 19:54 |
| smcginnis | gmann_afk: The swift stable/train branch has been created now. I think you are probably clear to go ahead with the QA steps. | 19:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/releases master: Redirects to master should always be temporary https://review.opendev.org/686492 | 21:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lingxian Kong proposed openstack/releases master: Release python-troveclient 2.17.1 for stable/stein https://review.opendev.org/686502 | 21:31 |
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