Thursday, 2019-08-29

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Oslo releases for 2019-8-26  https://review.opendev.org/67861209:36
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release ovsdbapp 0.17.0  https://review.opendev.org/67901609:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible Stein  https://review.opendev.org/67851109:43
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible Rocky  https://review.opendev.org/67851009:47
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible Queens  https://review.opendev.org/67850909:55
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Create pike-eol tag for all TripleO projects  https://review.opendev.org/67815410:04
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases master: python-novaclient: release 15.0.0 for train  https://review.opendev.org/67929315:36
mriedemefried: ^15:36
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efriedmriedem: acked15:41
ttxCurrently deep in the rat hole comparing phonetic alphabets https://www.qsl.net/ta1dx/amator/phonetic_alphabets.htm15:57
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smcginnis#startmeeting releaseteam16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 29 16:00:11 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam'16:00
smcginnis#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/train-relmgt-tracking Agenda16:01
smcginnisPing ttx dhellmann diablo_rojo hberaud evrardjp armstrong tonyb16:01
ttxohai16:01
diablo_rojoo/16:01
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smcginnisThank you ttx for the agenda again.16:02
smcginnis#topic Status update on recent release failures16:02
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smcginnis#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/release-job-failures/2019-August/thread.html16:03
smcginnisAll the fails16:03
ttxyeah so I motices a bunch16:03
ttxdamn I can't type anymore16:03
ttxnoticed a bunch of fails16:03
smcginnisI *think* we discussed these in channel, but we can make sure.16:03
ttxThe propose-update-constraints fails I did not investigate since i think somebody else did16:03
ttxThey seem to be fixed, just unsure that we corrected the failed ones (or that they need to)16:04
ttxSo would welcome someone double-checking16:04
smcginnisThose we decided were ok. One was manually proposed, the rest are getting picked up in the automatic updates.16:04
ttxok16:04
ttxThe tag-releases job fail I did investigate16:04
ttx    while creating ocata-eol tag for all TripleO projects, as a post-job after https://review.opendev.org/#/c/677478/ merged, failed to push ocata-eol tag to openstack/os-cloud-config16:04
evrardjparen't the triple O something to be expected?16:04
ttxI think we can ignore them yes16:04
smcginnisThis is one that has come up in the past. A retired repo does not have a .gitreview file, so it will fail.16:05
ttxexcept that ocata-eol tag is still missing from openstack/os-cloud-config16:05
ttxok, I'm fine with ignoring, not a big deal anyzay16:05
smcginnisI think, but not certain, that this should be the last series that will be affected by that.16:05
smcginnisIt is retired and the current master README makes that very clear.16:06
ttxsame for publish-release-notes ones16:06
ttxprobably irrelevant16:06
evrardjpttx: maybe we should just notify the ptl to do the EOL tag him/her-self?16:06
fungiwell, also retired repos are usually set to read-only, so you can't push tags to them16:06
ttxevrardjp: they can't16:06
evrardjpIt's still mwhahaha for now, right?16:06
smcginnisevrardjp: They would have to change ACLs for that.16:06
clarkbfungi: that may be broken though16:06
evrardjpoh right I thought it was not mutually exclusive in the acl by default16:06
evrardjpok16:06
clarkbfungi: jeepyb ignores projects with the retired acl config so doesn't push the acl update to RO them16:06
ttxanyway, I think we can ignore it as noise16:06
ttxfrom running an EOL process on dead repos16:07
fungiclarkb: ahh, i guess we need to fix that when someone finds time, but i thought it got solved some months ago16:07
* fungi would have to look back at jeepyb git history16:07
ttxjust wanted to make sure everyone was aware16:07
smcginnisFWIW, we did add some clarifying text to the retirement process to make sure .gitreview was kept along with the README so we hopefully don't have this issue again.16:08
ttxI have nothing more on that topic16:08
smcginnisWe could have fixed it for this repo, but it was considered not worth the effort.16:08
smcginnis"We'll just remember this for next time" :D16:08
ttxcary ove16:08
ttxr16:08
smcginnis#topic Final release period start16:08
ttxr16:08
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ttxHi! me again16:08
smcginnis#link https://releases.openstack.org/reference/process.html#final-library-release-week-before-milestone-316:09
ttxSo I did spend some time this morning planning the end of the cycle on the tracking doc16:09
ttxand copying the tasks16:09
ttxIt should all be set and ready16:09
smcginnisThanks!16:09
ttxIncluding reminders for things we should check in weekly emails16:09
ttxOne thing that would be cool is if you could add any availability issue16:10
smcginnisThanks for the reminder. I do have some travel coming up.16:10
ttxso that the other ones are aware they will have to care for those tasks16:10
ttxThen we need to assign next week tasks16:12
ttxwould be good if someone else did the library autoreleases this time16:12
ttxIt's a bit manual, but someone might get bored enough to build automation/tools16:12
smcginnisWe should really get that proposed at the beginning of the week too.16:13
smcginnisOr even tomorrow or the weekend to make sure there is time by the actual deadline.16:13
smcginnisI can take that unless someone else wants to grab it.16:13
ttxI think Monday should be enough... Deadline is Thursday EOD16:14
ttxI'll take the weekly post draft16:14
smcginnisNo other takers on proposing the releases?16:15
evrardjpI cannot say 100% I will work on this, so I am preferring to let someone do it, but I will actively review, and help16:15
evrardjpI just cannot commit yet16:15
smcginnisOK, I will take that, but if someone finds the desire and time to do it before me, I will not be upset. ;)16:15
ttxevrardjp: could you take the last task?16:15
evrardjpofc :)16:15
ttxI'll let you add your name to it16:15
evrardjpthe ones with the examples?16:16
ttxyes16:16
ttxOK we seem to be good16:16
ttxNote that starting now we have meetings every week and weekly emails16:16
evrardjpthat would be sad if I couldn't do one liners16:16
smcginnisCrunch time.16:16
smcginnis#topic Notify the Infrastructure team to generate an artifact signing key (but not replace the current one yet), and begin the attestation process.16:17
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ttxThat is all I had on this topic. You can scroll down that doc and see what the future looks like now16:17
smcginnisfungi: ^^ Notified?16:17
fungithanks smcginnis, i'm adding that to my to do list now!16:17
smcginnisThanks!16:17
smcginnis#topic R-6 email content final review16:17
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smcginnis#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails16:18
ttxI did a final pass on that one16:18
evrardjpfungi: I would be happy to know how things are done, if you don't mind filling me in on the topic after the meeting or at another moment16:18
ttxAlso removed confusing double R mentions16:18
fungievrardjp: you bet, it's a thoroughly documented process16:18
smcginnisttx: Double R?16:18
ttxThe R-6 email is sent at the end of the R-7 week, but i use a date to point to that16:18
ttxthe "send by" in the etyherpad should make it a bit less confusing16:19
smcginnis++16:19
ttxSo the email to send is ready for you around line 35016:19
evrardjpmore readable indeed16:19
smcginnisJust re-read through it and I think it looks good.16:19
evrardjpagreed16:20
ttx{o}16:20
smcginnis#topic Open discussion16:21
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smcginnisSo... PTL nominations are open.16:21
ttxsmcginnis: Are you running for U?16:21
smcginnisUnless we have someone that wants to, I was going to just go again.16:22
ttx++16:22
evrardjpthanks smcginnis!16:22
fungionce more unto the breach!16:22
evrardjpon another note:16:23
smcginnisI'll wait a bit in case someone else steps forward, but I guess I should probably get that drafted.16:23
smcginnisAnything else?16:24
evrardjpso yeah my other note... hum... how can I say that16:25
evrardjpI have a bad news: I won't be there to help you fine folks doing the final release (and the week before). I am a little sad, but family first.16:25
smcginnisDon't feel bad about putting your family first.16:25
ttxevrardjp: well, it's not as bad as you think. Peak activity is actually the two weeks just before16:26
evrardjpI imagined joining you and having a party at my home blowing in the nice wooden whistle for the great pleasure of my neighbours16:26
evrardjpbut it's not gonna happen16:26
ttxLast week we just drink16:26
smcginnis:)16:26
evrardjpttx: that's reassuring, but makes me even sader16:26
evrardjpeven more sad*16:26
evrardjpanyway16:27
smcginnisDon't worry, we can find some other excuse to drink together to make up for it. ;)16:27
evrardjpI will fill that in the etherpad16:27
fungiyeah, release week is "push the button, and then cross your fingers and hope you don't need the infra team"16:27
ttxsmcginnis: btw I did push the "post-RC1 tasks" to the week after RC1 week since that is when we actually did those for all previous releases16:27
smcginnisWe should actually add that to the process doc ^16:27
smcginnisttx: OK, that makes sense.16:27
ttxi don;t expect us having all our ducks^WRC1s in order before well past end of week anyway16:27
ttxlike always16:28
smcginnisYeah16:28
ttxalso spreads out load nicely16:28
smcginnisVery true.16:28
ttxbut yeah, R-2 is actually the heaviest week, and *I* won't be around that week much16:28
ttxso apologies for that :)16:28
* smcginnis notices ttx has been planning vacations around busy weeks16:29
smcginnis:P16:29
ttxIt's not vacation, it's OID Nordics16:29
evrardjpthat's a big event16:29
ttxI know it looks a lot like vacation but my wife says it's not16:29
smcginnisThat should be a good one. Wish it was closer for me.16:29
diablo_rojo..I will also be there?16:29
ttxdiablo_rojo: I hope so16:29
smcginnisOK, anything else we should discuss in-meeting?16:30
evrardjpI wanted to go, but I decided to stay to help releases. ahem ahem16:30
ttxdiablo_rojo: you just are better than me at getting work done on the road16:30
evrardjpsmcginnis: nothing from me16:30
diablo_rojottx, if you say so lol I do try.16:30
ttxevrardjp: I'm not sure I buy that16:30
evrardjp:D16:30
fungioh, also in case it didn't get mentioned visibly enough, the opendev sysadmins are performing a batch of project renames (including the kayobe deliverable namespace moves) on monday september 1616:30
ttxyes I left a note on that releases review to put it on hold16:31
ttxit's cycle-trailing so it should be fine16:31
smcginnisfungi: Thanks for pointing that out here. Good to get that captured in meeting notes.16:31
fungi#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-08-27-19.01.log.html#l-22816:31
smcginnisOK, if nothing else, my coffee cup needs a refill. :)16:32
fungithanks smcginnis!!!16:32
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smcginnisThanks everyone. And thanks again ttx for managing the agenda and getting the tasks planned out.16:33
evrardjpthanks smcginnis16:33
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smcginnis#endmeeting16:33
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Aug 29 16:33:09 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:33
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evrardjpand yes indeed, we don't say thanks to ttx enough16:33
ttxI hope I can come up with a more reusable template tbh16:33
ttxThe issue is we do overwrite it a lot, so I might make a copy16:33
smcginnisIf we ever get a release name, I will get a proposed U release schedule up so we can throw rocks at it.16:33
ttxWe do have a release name16:34
ttxI think that is official now, fungi16:34
smcginnisttx: Maybe we could move our process into a yaml file, have a sphinx plugin that generates the published HTML page but also update the etherpad generator script to read it in and add the tasks where needed.16:34
clarkbI believe last I heard details were being sent to rico so that rico could announce16:34
clarkb(since rico ran the poll?)16:34
smcginnisOh, I thought it was still going through review.16:34
ttxOK, let's not steal ricolin's thunder16:34
ttxReview was completed and results returned to the naming official as per established procedure16:35
fungiyeah, i was waiting for ricolin to officially announce it after wes reached out to him16:35
ricolinfungi, thx for the reminder, was at Vietnam when the wes send the mail, will send ML out asap16:40
ricolins/the wes/Wes/  oops:)16:41
fungiawesome, thanks again ricolin!16:41
fungihe might actually like being called "the wes" ;)16:41
smcginnisHah16:42
diablo_rojo#freebrainstorm we could video chat during our meeting of release week and actually have a drink together16:48
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clarkbdiablo_rojo: in the past I've gone out for dinner and a beer when its all done :)16:59
diablo_rojoclarkb, wanna come up to Seattle and we could do dinner? :)17:02
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clarkbI can actually probably do a seattle trip mid october17:02
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diablo_rojoclarkb, its been a while since you Portland folks came up. I keep coming down there. And now, I have a house with tons of space and gig internet service17:04
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diablo_rojoAnd we will probably have our new couch and dining room table delivered by then17:04
ricolinfungi, done http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-August/008904.html17:07
clarkbricolin: thank you!17:11
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fungithanks!!!18:25
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armstrongHello, did the meeting time changed?19:26
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clarkbarmstrong: it happened at 1600 UTC19:31
clarkb(not sure if that was a change and if so if permanent?)19:31
clarkbsmcginnis: ^ probably knows19:31
armstrongAh ok thanks @clarkb19:32
smcginnisYeah, sorry. We officially changed it to 16:00.19:35
armstrongOk smcginnis let me update my calendar19:35
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openstackgerritLingxian Kong proposed openstack/releases master: Release python-troveclient 2.19.0  https://review.opendev.org/67935722:56
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