Thursday, 2019-08-08

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openstackgerritEyal proposed openstack/releases master: Release Vitrage deliverables for Train  https://review.opendev.org/67526908:21
openstackgerritEyal proposed openstack/releases master: Release Vitrage deliverables for Train  https://review.opendev.org/67526908:37
openstackgerritEyal proposed openstack/releases master: Release Vitrage deliverables for Train  https://review.opendev.org/67526909:00
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openstackgerritEyal proposed openstack/releases master: Release Vitrage deliverables for Train  https://review.opendev.org/67526909:16
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Add cyborg-tempest-plugin to Train deliverables  https://review.opendev.org/67427809:31
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release new version of neutron-tempest-plugin  https://review.opendev.org/67457309:32
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release ironic-python-agent 3.6.2 for Stein  https://review.opendev.org/67240809:38
* cdent pours one out for tonyb 09:44
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release ironic 12.1.2 for Stein  https://review.opendev.org/67240909:50
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Add Python 3 Train unit tests  https://review.opendev.org/67064109:50
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tonyb[m]I know it's especially poor timing but I won't be able to make the meeting tomorrow.10:24
tonyb[m]Thanks cdent10:24
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smcginnisThanks tonyb[m]11:42
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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: osc-placement 1.6.0  https://review.opendev.org/67531112:30
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: python-aodhclient 1.3.0  https://review.opendev.org/67531212:36
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: python-blazarclient 2.2.0  https://review.opendev.org/67531412:39
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: python-cinderclient 4.3.0  https://review.opendev.org/67531512:42
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: python-cyborgclient 0.4.0  https://review.opendev.org/67531712:43
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: python-freezerclient 2.2.0  https://review.opendev.org/67531812:45
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: python-glanceclient 2.17.0  https://review.opendev.org/67531912:46
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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: python-heatclient 1.18.0  https://review.opendev.org/67532012:48
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: python-karborclient 1.3.0  https://review.opendev.org/67532112:50
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: python-manilaclient 1.28.0  https://review.opendev.org/67532212:51
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: python-neutronclient 6.13.0  https://review.opendev.org/67532312:54
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: python-pankoclient 0.7.0  https://review.opendev.org/67532412:55
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: python-senlinclient 1.11.0  https://review.opendev.org/67532512:56
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: python-watcherclient 2.3.0  https://review.opendev.org/67532612:57
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: python-zunclient 3.4.0  https://review.opendev.org/67532712:58
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: shade 1.32.0  https://review.opendev.org/67532913:00
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: tosca-parser 1.5.0  https://review.opendev.org/67533013:01
ttxThese are the train-2 library autoreleases ^13:02
mordredttx: you're a library autorelease13:02
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases master: nova: release stein 19.0.2  https://review.opendev.org/67515213:33
mriedem^ contains a cve fix13:33
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ttxmriedem: thx! Will try to get it processed fast13:37
smcginnisThanks for getting those proposed ttx13:42
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/releases master: Release 0.33.0 of openstacksdk  https://review.opendev.org/67466015:24
mordredttx, smcginnis: ^^ there's the updated one with the second fix and also the version bump15:25
* mordred waves to tonyb[m]15:25
smcginnisAck, will watch for that one.15:26
mordredsmcginnis: we, uhm, may have broken a few ansible modules. whoops. :)15:27
smcginnisHeh15:27
smcginnisttx: If you have a moment for https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674887/ - that one is holding up some requirements updates.15:30
smcginnisAfter you're done rewriting OpenStack in perl, of course.15:30
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ttxwhile(<>){print if($.==2 || $& && !$x++); $.=0 if15:35
ttx(/^--+$/)}15:35
ttxI did not miss Perl that much15:35
ttxsmcginnis: +2A15:36
toskyquestion: sahara-tests (which contains a tempest plugin and other tests for sahara) is branchless; it is marked as cycle-with-intermediary in stein and cycle-automatic for train15:38
toskywith the permission of the PTL, I'd like to request the release of a new minor version (0.9.1); should it be targeted for train at this point, even though it is going to be used for stein (and older branches) too?15:38
smcginnistosky: Yeah, it should be in train now since there really isn't a stable release for a tempest plugin.15:41
toskyoki15:41
smcginnistosky: The cycle-automatic is now basically the same as cycle-with-intermediary too, with the extra that we will automatically propose a final release at the end of the cycle.15:42
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toskythanks; I followed the discussion on the list, but I wasn't sure whether I understood it correctly or not15:43
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mordredttx: perl did make keeping a laminated quick reference on your desk really important15:44
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toskysmcginnis: is the release-notes: field still needed? I don't see it in deliverables/train/sahara-tests.html; should it be manually added?15:47
smcginnistosky: That's only needed if release notes are published for a deliverable and there is an actual published URL to link to.15:47
smcginnistosky: Basically, it's what makes the release notes link show up on https://releases.openstack.org/stein/index.html#service-projects15:48
toskysmcginnis: oh, ok, so I need to add it15:48
smcginnissahara-tests appears to be the only tempest plugin that has release notes.15:48
toskybecause we are nice and pretty15:52
tosky:)15:52
* tosky smiles and waves and goes back to patching15:52
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release designateclient and solumclient be able to uncap jsonschema  https://review.opendev.org/67488715:54
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openstackgerritLuigi Toscano proposed openstack/releases master: sahara-tests: new release 0.9.1  https://review.opendev.org/67539315:59
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases master: WIP: nova: release rocky 18.2.2  https://review.opendev.org/67539616:06
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toskyuhm, openstack-tox-validate failed and I'm not sure why16:17
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/releases master: Release 3.16.0 of keystoneauth  https://review.opendev.org/67540216:22
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Skip minor version increment validation for branchless  https://review.opendev.org/67542017:20
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smcginnis#startmeeting releaseteam19:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug  8 19:00:04 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam'19:00
ttxohai19:00
diablo_rojo_phono/19:00
smcginnisping: dhellmann diablo_rojo hberaud evrardjp armstrong tonyb19:00
dhellmanno/19:00
armstrongo/19:00
smcginnisTony sent out the handoff email - so, I guess y'all stuck with me again.19:00
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fungiwelcome back19:01
smcginnisHe also said he was not going to be available for this meeting, but even so, I'd like to say thanks again for his time as PTL.19:01
fungiand thanks for all your hard work tonyb! i hope you're sleeping in for a change19:01
ttxI'll continue to frontload the agenda19:01
smcginnisI know he was fighting a lot of conflicting priorities.19:01
smcginnisttx: Thanks!19:01
smcginnis#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/train-relmgt-tracking Agenda19:02
ttxnobody can expect my etherpad-driven bossing19:02
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smcginnis:)19:02
ttxescape*19:02
ttxnobody expects the Spanish Inquisition19:02
smcginnisWe're around line 304 on that etherpad.19:02
smcginnisttx: Thanks for getting that loaded and for taking care of proposing all of those patches today.19:02
dhellmannnobody expects the French Imperative?19:03
smcginnis#topic Turning cycle-with-intermediary summarized proposal into law19:03
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smcginnisHah19:03
ttxThis was more painful than I expected (the autoreleases)19:03
ttxwe really need some more automation around that19:03
ttxOK so... law19:03
smcginnisYeah, a little trickier to automate than at first glance.19:03
ttxI posted the proposal, was about to propose a bunch of patches19:03
ttxBUt i find useful to run through a practical example first19:04
smcginnis++19:04
ttxSo I compiled the list19:04
ttxYou can see that there are a bunch of horizon UI things19:04
ttxAnd most of them did not release multiple times in Stein and or Rocky19:05
ttxSo I was wondering... should we limit our proposals to things that (1) did not release yet and (2) did release only once last cycle19:05
ttxThat would reduce churn19:05
ttxand we'd have more legs to stand on19:05
dhellmanncan you remind me what we finally settled on for the policy?19:06
ttxsure19:06
ttxWe said we'd propose the patch for things that have not released yet19:06
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ttxbut it's OK to -1 the patch -- you just need to release before RC119:06
ttxand we'll autorelease if you forget (and complain)19:07
ttxSo basically the model change is a discussion opener19:07
ttxBut I feel like targeting more likely targets might be a good idea19:07
dhellmannthat makes sense19:07
smcginnisI think there was some pushback on the ML thread, but then when the reasoning behind it was explained folks were a little more accepting of it.19:08
dhellmannbuilding that list is going to take a little bit of work19:08
ttxYou did only release once last cycle. And you haven't released yet. Are you sure you don;t want to do cycle-with-rc19:08
diablo_rojo_phonYeah it got better on the ml19:08
ttxSo if you agree, that means only proposing changes to things with * after the name19:09
smcginnisI think your proposal is a good start ttx.19:09
smcginnis* and **19:09
diablo_rojo_phonSeems like a good place to start19:09
ttxsuper-good targets are tricircle and cloudkitty-dashboard19:09
dhellmannI count ~11 items19:09
dhellmannnot too bad19:09
ttxmonasca-thresh is a bit of an outlier19:09
ttxIIRC it;s Java-based19:09
ttxyes it is. Not sure how much it would like being RC-ed19:10
smcginnisLike you pointed out, it's at least a good conversation starter.19:10
* smcginnis didn't realize we still had java code19:10
ttxwell back in the age of abundance it was supposed to be gradually removed19:11
ttxand now everyone just looks the other way19:11
smcginnisAlmost as bad as perl. :P19:11
ttxAnyway, we still need people to send those model change proposals19:12
ttxI'll propose the process changes19:12
ttx(updating our process doc with what the new rule means)19:12
ttxbut would prefer if someone else took on the 11 model change proposals19:13
smcginnisSo of the ~11 deliverables, just a patch to switch over the release model to cycle-with-rc, add the PTLs, and have the commit message state why it's being proposed and inviting them to discuss, right?19:13
ttxI count 1519:13
ttxyes19:13
diablo_rojo_phonIf that's the case I can probably handle that.19:13
ttx"You did only release once last cycle. And you haven't released yet. Are you sure you don;t want to do cycle-with-rc, which is much better for one-release-per-cycle"19:14
smcginnisdiablo_rojo_phon: If you can take that, that would be great.19:14
diablo_rojo_phonYeah I can put that as a comment in each review or as a part of the commit message19:15
ttx"if you know you'll do just one, advise to +1. if you know you will do more than one, why not now ? -1 and propose a release. If you have no idea when you will release, -1, but propose a release before Rc1!"19:15
ttxsomething like that19:15
smcginnisdiablo_rojo_phon: I see you are out next week. Is that something you can do yet this week?19:15
diablo_rojo_phonGot it.19:15
ttxbasically make the "I have no effing idea" be the odd one19:15
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diablo_rojo_phonYeah I can probably get that done before the end of the week.19:16
diablo_rojo_phonThe patches at least19:16
diablo_rojo_phonMaybe not all of the chasing involved ;)19:16
smcginnisPerfect, thanks diablo_rojo_phon.19:16
smcginnisAnd thanks for getting that list together ttx.19:16
diablo_rojo_phonNo problem19:16
ttx#action ttx to post process changes around unreleased things19:16
smcginnisI can watch for review comments next week and approve the ones that get +1, abandon the ones that say hellz no.19:17
diablo_rojo_phonCoolio19:17
ttx#action diablo_rojo to push release-model-change patches for things that have not released yet AND did only release once last cycle19:17
smcginnis#topic Review R-8 email content19:18
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ttx#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails19:18
smcginnis#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails19:18
ttxThat is in preparation of next week, since most of us won't be around19:18
diablo_rojo_phonHeh :)19:18
ttxscroll down to line ~32119:19
smcginnisSo the etherpad actually only has an R-9 draft.19:19
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ttxIt's a mind trick19:19
smcginnisIs that meant to be sent in R-9 for R-8?19:19
smcginnisOh, yep.19:19
ttxIt's a R-* draft to be sent on R-919:19
ttxR-819:19
smcginnisSubject would appear so.19:19
ttxI know it's confusing19:19
smcginnisOK, I'm caught up now.19:20
ttxMain focus on this email is to introduce the stages of freezes around train-319:20
smcginnisShould we add something to that about cycle-with-intermediary teams considering cycle-with-rc if they only need one release?19:20
ttxMake it very clear that we do libs first, then client-libs, then feature-freeze the rest19:21
smcginnisOr keep it focused on the things coming up.19:21
ttxI would keep it focused on things coming up19:21
dhellmann ++19:21
smcginnisThere always seems to be at least one team that gets caught by surprise by lib freezes, so that's probably a good call.19:21
smcginnisIn that case, the draft looks good to me. I can plan on sending that content out next week.19:22
smcginnis#topic No meeting next week19:22
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ttxThe R-6 email (sent on R-7 week) needs some work19:22
ttxbut there is still time19:23
ttxI'll just add a few tasks so that we review it early enough19:23
smcginnisI'll try to take a look at that.19:23
smcginnisSo looks like several of you are out next week.19:23
smcginnisI will be here, but I'm fine skipping the meeting if there's not a need for it.19:24
smcginnis*strong need19:24
ttxYeah, I think it's safe to skip19:24
ttxWe should be caught up with process19:24
diablo_rojo_phonsmcginnis: ttx and fungi and  I will be at the foundation staff off-site19:24
smcginnisIf anyone else has any concerns or needs to talk about anything in the mean time, we can just do that in channel.19:24
fungiyeah19:24
smcginnisdiablo_rojo_phon: Nice. Should be quiet around here then.19:24
fungisure, you won't have me breaking anything19:25
smcginnis:)19:25
smcginnis#topic Open floor19:25
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diablo_rojo_phonHeh19:25
smcginnisIt would feel a little like slamming the door behind him, but I feel I should at least bring it up - should we reconsider the meeting time again?19:26
smcginnisI know this isn't a great spot for ttx, evrardjp, or hberaud|gone.19:26
fungii'll do my best to attend whatever time you come up with19:27
smcginnisFrom the TC office hour official keyholder ^ ;)19:28
diablo_rojo_phonThis time works for me, but we can also change it.19:28
ttxsmcginnis: It's hard to meet with the west coast before 1500utc summer / 1600utc winter, and my time slots between that and dinner are pretty full19:28
ttxLet me check19:28
fungioh, in other news, there was a nova security advisory this week so be on the lookout for possibly expedited requests on stable point releases19:28
smcginnisNot saying we need to change it, just wanted to put the idea out there since I know it's not the best.19:28
diablo_rojo_phonI quite like not being faced with the threat of waking up at like.. 7/8 AM but can handle that if  it works for everyone else.19:29
smcginnisI think the stein one is up right now and a rocky one waiting.19:29
ttxCould move it to 1600utc Thursday19:29
smcginnishttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/675152/19:29
ttxespecially if that means we can get evrardjp more regularly19:29
smcginnisThat would be good. We used to be 1600, right?19:30
ttxUsed to be on Friday19:30
ttxMy Friday is wide open but not super-awesome to get things done19:30
fungiyeah, ossa-2019-003 affected all supported nova branches (and em branches but those are obviously not getting point releases), so expect point release requests back to stable/queens19:30
smcginnisI like to avoid Friday meetings when I can.19:30
fungii think the stable/queens patch is still in the gate at the moment19:31
ttxThursday 16 is after the TC office hour, and since we generally manage to keep meetings short, totally doable for me19:31
smcginnisOK, let's think about Thursday 1600 for now and not make any changes. We can talk some more in a couple weeks when everyone is back and see what everyone thinks.19:32
ttxyeah lets wait for evrardjp to chime in. If he can't make that one either, no point in changing19:32
smcginnis++19:32
dhellmannwhat time is tc office hours on thurs in utc?19:33
ttx1519:33
dhellmannok19:33
ttxmonthly meeting at 1419:33
ttxalright if nothing else I'll jump into my evening19:34
smcginnisYeah, I guess we're done here.19:34
smcginnisThanks everyone!19:34
fungithanks smcginnis!19:34
diablo_rojo_phonThanks!19:34
smcginnis#endmeeting19:34
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mtreinishdhellmann: a quick reno question. Is there an easy way to do subsections in the release notes? Like if I wanted to group new features by component in the output?19:50
mtreinishI looked through the docs and I saw the custom headings, but it looked like it only enabled configuring 1 level19:51
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dhellmannmtreinish : not really20:20
dhellmanneach note can be a full rst blob, but that would mean putting all of the notes into 1 bullet20:20
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cmurphyany chance this https://review.opendev.org/674861 could get in soonish? keystone needs the oslo.policy update to fix our flaky gate21:18
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mtreinishdhellmann: hmm, ok. Do you think adding subsections would that be a feature people (well besides me) are interested in?21:20
smcginniscmurphy: Sorry, I thought I made a pass through earlier but I guess I missed that one.21:21
cmurphythanks smcginnis21:22
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* bnemec likes it when other people do his review begging for him21:25
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Change blazar-dashboard release model  https://review.opendev.org/67547121:30
diablo_rojo^^^ smcginnis, dhellmann anyone else still around. See that that commit message sounds good before I do the other 14 :)21:31
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Change blazar-dashboard release model  https://review.opendev.org/67547121:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Oslo releases for 2019-8-6  https://review.opendev.org/67486121:35
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smcginnisdiablo_rojo: Looks good overall. Maybe add something like what ttx said here? http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-08-08-19.00.log.html#l-7821:46
smcginnisBut I think it is good to start a conversation.21:46
diablo_rojosmcginnis, thats kind of what I paraphrased at the end of the message, but I can be more direct. Let me take another stab at it..21:49
smcginnisdiablo_rojo: Don't worry about, I think it looks fine.21:50
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Change blazar-dashboard release model  https://review.opendev.org/67547121:51
diablo_rojosmcginnis, more verbose21:51
diablo_rojosmcginnis, lol already done21:52
diablo_rojogood now?21:52
smcginnis+1, I like it. I think that will help make it more clear to the teams what we're asking/proposing with those patches.21:52
diablo_rojoCoolio.21:52
diablo_rojoWill get the others up now.21:53
smcginnisThanks!21:53
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Change ec2-api release model  https://review.opendev.org/67547421:54
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openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Change cloudkitty-dashboard release model  https://review.opendev.org/67547621:56
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Change ec2-api release model  https://review.opendev.org/67547421:57
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Change cloudkitty-dashboard release model  https://review.opendev.org/67547621:58
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Change heat-agents release model  https://review.opendev.org/67547821:59
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Change heat-dashboard release model  https://review.opendev.org/67547922:02
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openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Change masakari-dashboard release model  https://review.opendev.org/67548022:03
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Change monasca-kibana-plugin release model  https://review.opendev.org/67548122:05
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Change monasca-thresh release model  https://review.opendev.org/67548222:08
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Change monasca-ui release model  https://review.opendev.org/67548322:10
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Change murano-agent release model  https://review.opendev.org/67548422:11
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Change networking-baremetal release model  https://review.opendev.org/67548522:13
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Change sahara-extra release model  https://review.opendev.org/67548622:14
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Change solum-dashboard release model  https://review.opendev.org/67548722:15
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Change tricircle release model  https://review.opendev.org/67549022:18
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Change watcher-dashboard release model  https://review.opendev.org/67549122:20
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diablo_rojosmcginnis, hokay, got all the patches pushed, liaisons/ptls added as reviewers and added all the links to the relmgm-tracking etherpad22:30
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