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| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible Stein https://review.opendev.org/666728 | 13:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/releases master: Release os-traits 0.15.0 https://review.opendev.org/667111 | 14:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/releases master: Release python-ironic-inspector-client 3.6.1 for Train https://review.opendev.org/667964 | 15:32 |
| smcginnis | Should this be retired? https://opendev.org/openstack/release-schedule-generator | 15:56 |
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| dhellmann | smcginnis : probably? we have the thing in the releases repo now and the data in that repo looks obsolete | 17:10 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, that's what I was thinking. | 17:11 |
| smcginnis | I'll put it on my list and see if I can get to doing it any time soon. | 17:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Luigi Toscano proposed openstack/releases master: Second release of sahara-tests for Stein (0.9.0) https://review.opendev.org/668022 | 18:53 |
| tonyb | #startmeeting releaseteam | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 27 19:00:00 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 19:00 |
| ttx | hi! | 19:00 |
| tonyb | diablo_rojo, smcginnis, dhellmann, armstrong, evrardjp: Release team meeting ping | 19:00 |
| diablo_rojo | o/ | 19:00 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 19:01 |
| tonyb | I suspect this is all we'll get today/tonight | 19:02 |
| tonyb | Only one topic for the agenda | 19:02 |
| diablo_rojo | Got all the cool kids though. | 19:02 |
| diablo_rojo | ...I added a second topic but its not really important | 19:02 |
| * fungi is not cool, but here anyway | 19:02 | |
| tonyb | diablo_rojo: I see that | 19:03 |
| tonyb | fungi: you are cool .... and you'll see I relied on your own notifications ;P | 19:03 |
| tonyb | #topic Review content for next proposed emails | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review content for next proposed emails (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 19:03 | |
| fungi | indeed | 19:03 |
| ttx | Yeah, so I've been reviewing the content for the next two, and I think we can just send one three weeks before M-2, one one-week before M-2 and one on M2 week | 19:03 |
| tonyb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails | 19:03 |
| ttx | One key thing being you send on R-15 the one talkign about R-14 | 19:04 |
| ttx | So if you scroll down to R-15... | 19:04 |
| ttx | That would be the one to send next week, to prepare R-14 | 19:04 |
| ttx | Overall idea being to only send when we have somethign to say, rather than every week | 19:05 |
| tonyb | ttx: Just reading it/them | 19:05 |
| ttx | Sounds like less work that way, and also less faigue in readers | 19:05 |
| ttx | fatigue | 19:05 |
| smcginnis | That sounds like a good idea. | 19:05 |
| ttx | I only check-drafted the R-15 and R-13 ones | 19:05 |
| smcginnis | I did get a few folks saying they appreciated the countdown emails, but I think less often will be more useful as a good way to highlight things. | 19:06 |
| ttx | If you look at the rest of the document, I propose similar skips | 19:06 |
| ttx | Obviously starting at R-7 it's weekly | 19:06 |
| diablo_rojo | +2 | 19:06 |
| ttx | because we have different things to say every week | 19:06 |
| tonyb | Looks good to me | 19:07 |
| ttx | tonyb: idea being to sdend teh email toward the end of the week, to prep for what needs to be done the coming week | 19:07 |
| ttx | OK, so if you all agree, I can translate that into tasks on the tracking etherpad | 19:08 |
| tonyb | Thanks ttx for bringing this up, diablo_rojo for pulling the data together and smcginnis for writing all the email last cycle we've used ;P | 19:08 |
| tonyb | ttx: I want to get in the habbit of sending them right after we close this meeting | 19:09 |
| * diablo_rojo is a copy pasta pro | 19:09 | |
| ttx | ++ | 19:09 |
| tonyb | which will be much more doable with all this work in place | 19:09 |
| smcginnis | Some of that content is a few years old at this point. ;) | 19:09 |
| ttx | yeah, I did a gheavy rewite on the two I check-drafted so far... | 19:10 |
| tonyb | Well thanks all round, I was struggling there a little | 19:11 |
| diablo_rojo | Happy to help :) | 19:12 |
| ttx | Hmm we might need an email on R-8 about the extra-atcs-deadline in R-7 | 19:12 |
| tonyb | ttx: We can add it in the important dates now and then do the R-8 thing also | 19:13 |
| smcginnis | Extra ATC is really only useful now for allowing someone to vote, right? | 19:14 |
| ttx | OK, I moved things around | 19:14 |
| ttx | smcginnis: yeah, arguably not a release thing | 19:14 |
| ttx | and more of a election official thing | 19:14 |
| smcginnis | Still useful to remind folks. I'm just thinking overall it's less important since not as many projects even need elections now and there is no free pass associated with that status. | 19:15 |
| smcginnis | Just thinking out loud really. Carry on. :) | 19:15 |
| diablo_rojo | I dont think it hurts to mention it. | 19:15 |
| ttx | we can mention it on the '4 weeks before milestone-3" one | 19:15 |
| ttx | I dropped a note to remember | 19:16 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: but extra-atcs also get to vote for TC memebers | 19:16 |
| tonyb | thanks ttx | 19:17 |
| ttx | So the way it stands we'd send one on R-15 R-13 R-12 R-9 R-7 and then up to R-1 | 19:17 |
| diablo_rojo | Less than a dozen emails isnt so bad | 19:17 |
| ttx | Also week after previous release, week before milestone-1 and week of milestone-1, but I haven't rewritten those | 19:17 |
| fungi | yes, election-related deadlines were included on the release schedule mainly out of convenience | 19:18 |
| fungi | as they were generally tied to release cycles | 19:18 |
| ttx | So please proofread the ones proposed for R-15 and R-13 when you get a chance | 19:18 |
| diablo_rojo | Can do | 19:18 |
| tonyb | ttx: \o/ | 19:18 |
| ttx | I'll try to drop a base draft for them a couple of weeks before we need to send them, so as to not do them all at the same time | 19:19 |
| tonyb | #topic StoryBoard Backlog + Board | 19:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "StoryBoard Backlog + Board (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 19:19 | |
| tonyb | diablo_rojo says: I think the board is pretty out of date and we should probably prioritize some items for when people have free time (free time lol) | 19:20 |
| tonyb | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/board/64 | 19:20 |
| tonyb | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project_group/73 | 19:20 |
| tonyb | There are probably also items that are done that can be marked as closed | 19:21 |
| diablo_rojo | Heh yeah. Was browsing SB the other day and I know we made some stories at the PTG, but that also some of them are done and I dont think its up to date. | 19:21 |
| diablo_rojo | The board itself I think is behind a bit too? Not sure if there are other things we have in our backlog that should get prioritized | 19:21 |
| fungi | there's at least one assigned to me since ages i still haven't gotten around to doing | 19:21 |
| fungi | (sorry!) | 19:21 |
| * diablo_rojo imagines everyone with the board and backlog open browsing | 19:22 | |
| smcginnis | Shouldn't things that are done automatically drop from the board? | 19:22 |
| diablo_rojo | Nope. Its not using automatic worklists | 19:23 |
| diablo_rojo | Its a manual board/manual worklists | 19:23 |
| smcginnis | Then it's always going to be out of date. :/ | 19:23 |
| fungi | you can go tag the relevant stories and build automatic lanes based on tag+status queries | 19:24 |
| diablo_rojo | I think once people get their stuff merged, they should go ahead and move it to done or remove it frm the worklist | 19:24 |
| fungi | i mean as an alternative to continuing with manual lanes | 19:25 |
| fungi | one is more work up front, the other more work down the road | 19:25 |
| fungi | always a tradeoff | 19:26 |
| tonyb | The project group page is probably "okay" we just need to update status on som eof the items but board seems like it needs a lot ove work | 19:26 |
| tonyb | *of | 19:28 |
| diablo_rojo | I am happy to do a first pass of the board after we get the actual stories closed out that are completed. | 19:28 |
| diablo_rojo | I just dont know what all has been done. | 19:28 |
| diablo_rojo | There were things marked as Stein.. | 19:29 |
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| tonyb | Yeah I think most of the stuff on https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/board/64 is done | 19:29 |
| diablo_rojo | Thats kinda what I had thought.. | 19:30 |
| tonyb | diablo_rojo: I'll go through the board this week | 19:30 |
| tonyb | then we can review it in this meeting next week | 19:31 |
| diablo_rojo | tonyb, let me know when you are and I can help. | 19:31 |
| tonyb | I like the idea of "building all the automation" but I probably shoudln't ;P | 19:32 |
| tonyb | diablo_rojo: will do :) | 19:32 |
| tonyb | diablo_rojo: any afternoon that really works or sucks for you next week? | 19:32 |
| diablo_rojo | Monday would be good. | 19:33 |
| diablo_rojo | The rest of the week I will be out because MURICA | 19:33 |
| diablo_rojo | and asettle and andymccr will be around | 19:33 |
| diablo_rojo | My monday | 19:34 |
| diablo_rojo | your Tuesday | 19:34 |
| tonyb | diablo_rojo: Okay, I'll see what I can do with my meetings | 19:34 |
| tonyb | #topic Open discussion | 19:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 19:35 | |
| diablo_rojo | tonyb, cool. I can stick around later that day if you can't finagle meeting stuff | 19:35 |
| smcginnis | As diablo_rojo alluded to, next Thursday is a holiday in the US. Most folks here have the day off from work. | 19:36 |
| fungi | (and are even likely to be nowhere near a computer!) | 19:36 |
| smcginnis | There are enough non-US members here that I think a meeting could still be useful, but should probably expect a few of us to be AFK. | 19:36 |
| tonyb | Oh yeah .. and the meeting in Thursday | 19:36 |
| fungi | friday in tonyb's case ;) | 19:37 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: but if it's just ttx and I we could you know not do it at 2100/0500 | 19:37 |
| smcginnis | Very true! ;) | 19:37 |
| fungi | seems like a good opportunity to sleep in | 19:38 |
| ttx | hmm, would be good to at least do a go-nogo on the email? | 19:38 |
| diablo_rojo | +2 for sleeping in wherever possib;e | 19:38 |
| diablo_rojo | possible | 19:38 |
| ttx | but that can be done through some async channel | 19:38 |
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| tonyb | ttx: Yeah, I have to leave early on Thursday so I don;t think we can do it earlyish your morning ... | 19:39 |
| tonyb | lets do it async during the week | 19:40 |
| ttx | I mean, we could review it now too | 19:40 |
| ttx | I don;t expect anything new being discovered next week | 19:40 |
| smcginnis | Guessing it will be a quiet week. | 19:41 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah probably | 19:41 |
| fungi | if the gate catches fire and there's nobody around to notice, does it make a funny smell? | 19:42 |
| tonyb | hehe | 19:42 |
| tonyb | ttx: mail on L253 LGTM ... much better than anything I could have written | 19:45 |
| ttx | tonyb: alright then, no need for meeting next week | 19:47 |
| tonyb | \o/ | 19:47 |
| tonyb | anything else? | 19:49 |
| smcginnis | Holiday for everyone. And Tony gets to sleep in. :) | 19:49 |
| diablo_rojo | Nothing from me | 19:50 |
| diablo_rojo | tonyb, just let me know when you wanna have the storyboard party | 19:50 |
| diablo_rojo | Other are of course invited too :) | 19:50 |
| tonyb | diablo_rojo: will do ;P | 19:50 |
| tonyb | I s'pose I should make sure everyone knows that the week of the 8th I'll be totally AFK | 19:51 |
| tonyb | no laptop | 19:51 |
| tonyb | I will have my phone but I'll trry not to look at IRC/email | 19:51 |
| smcginnis | Good call. | 19:51 |
| diablo_rojo | Says the man with IRC on his phone lol | 19:51 |
| tonyb | It's true | 19:51 |
| tonyb | Fell free to ping me there but don't expect fast replies ;P | 19:52 |
| tonyb | *feel* even | 19:52 |
| smcginnis | No free falling. | 19:52 |
| diablo_rojo | smcginnis, but skydiving is fun | 19:53 |
| * ttx runs | 19:53 | |
| tonyb | #endmeeting | 19:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Release Managers office - Come here to discuss how to release OpenStack components - Logged at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-release/" | 19:53 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 27 19:53:48 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-06-27-19.00.html | 19:53 |
| ttx | Cheers all, see you soon | 19:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-06-27-19.00.txt | 19:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-06-27-19.00.log.html | 19:53 |
| tonyb | Thanks everyone | 19:53 |
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| fungi | thanks tonyb! | 19:54 |
| diablo_rojo | Thanks tonyb! | 19:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/releases master: Release neutron-lib 1.28.0 https://review.opendev.org/668044 | 20:43 |
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