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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/releases master: [Rally] Release a nwe version with a fix to previous release https://review.opendev.org/659440 | 05:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release cinderclient 4.2.0 https://review.opendev.org/653439 | 06:17 |
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| ykarel | smcginnis, hi, rememeber the discussion regarding mistralclient, u said u-c for master will not be updated | 07:43 |
| ykarel | i see it's updated https://github.com/openstack/requirements/commit/2b6e70b464c8b2c646ab45c1bc98ac9005d61a90 | 07:43 |
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| ykarel | seems some issue, can you check once available | 07:46 |
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| tonyb | ykarel|lunch: can you elaborate? all realeases publish to pypi typically get "bumped" in u-c | 08:00 |
| tonyb | ykarel|lunch: Oh I see, it's a stein release so you thought it shouldn't land on master | 08:04 |
| tonyb | ykarel|lunch: If that's the case you'll need to revert it on master but here should be a good reason as it'll keep getting added back on master | 08:05 |
| tonyb | ykarel|lunch: So there are 2 processes in play here | 08:07 |
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| tonyb | ykarel|lunch: when we cut a release on $branch a review on the same branch will be generated to match (https://review.opendev.org/#/c/659077/) in this case | 08:09 |
| tonyb | I'm pretty sure that's what smcginnis was referring to | 08:09 |
| tonyb | but then we have a second tool that runs daily and looks for new releases on master and then proposes them as an update | 08:10 |
| tonyb | which is https://review.opendev.org/#/c/658636/ then review that you're referencing | 08:10 |
| tonyb | ykarel|lunch: I see https://review.opendev.org/#/c/659458/1 which was made by the 3.9.0 release from master which I think fixes things for you | 08:11 |
| tonyb | ykarel|lunch: the "race" here shoudl only happen early in a cycle | 08:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tony Breeds proposed openstack/releases master: Add Cinder Specific Events for Train https://review.opendev.org/659330 | 08:15 |
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| ykarel | tonyb, yes i meant: it's a stein release so you thought it shouldn't land on master | 08:36 |
| ykarel | and I see https://review.opendev.org/#/c/659458/1 which was made by the 3.9.0 should fix master u-c | 08:36 |
| ykarel | as 3.9.0 released against train | 08:36 |
| ykarel | tonyb, re. but then we have a second tool that runs daily and looks for new releases on master and then proposes them as an update, where it checks releases? | 08:37 |
| ykarel | 3.8.1 was tagged only for stable/stein | 08:37 |
| tonyb | ykarel: right but it's published to pypi and the constraints tool just knows that 3.8.1 > 3.8.0 to it installed 3.8.1 and proposed that change | 08:38 |
| tonyb | that tool knows nothing about OpenStack release process or branches (and shouldn't have to) | 08:39 |
| ykarel | tonyb, ohhk got it, the issue should go after first train release | 08:39 |
| tonyb | ykarel: correct | 08:39 |
| ykarel | tonyb, Thanks for all the explanations | 08:39 |
| tonyb | ykarel: and if 3.9.0 had happend first, wouldn't have happened at all | 08:39 |
| ykarel | yup got it | 08:39 |
| tonyb | ykarel: So once 659458 merges we shoudl be good | 08:41 |
| ykarel | yes | 08:42 |
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| smcginnis | ykarel: Sorry for the confusion. Tony had a much better explanation of it all. I wasn't thinking about the automatic update job that runs separately. | 13:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Add Cinder Specific Events for Train https://review.opendev.org/659330 | 13:30 |
| ykarel | smcginnis, yeah it can be missed some times as there are too many things going on :) | 13:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Schultz proposed openstack/releases master: [tripleo] create pike-em tag against final releases https://review.opendev.org/652847 | 15:38 |
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| clarkb | smcginnis: we've restarted zuul with the fix for the js release job in place | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | clarkb: Thanks! | 16:31 |
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| clarkb | smcginnis: as another heads up we want to restart gerrit to fix the gitweb links | 16:52 |
| clarkb | so you should hold off on release activities for a bit longer | 16:52 |
| clarkb | we are waiting for https://review.opendev.org/#/c/652847/ to do its thing | 16:53 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit is being restarted to add gitweb links back to Gerrit. Sorry for the noise. | 17:37 | |
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| * tonyb waves | 18:53 | |
| * smcginnis waves back | 18:56 | |
| armstrong | hello | 18:57 |
| tonyb | hey armstrong! | 18:57 |
| smcginnis | Hey! | 18:57 |
| tonyb | armstrong: good to see you | 18:57 |
| armstrong | thanks | 18:57 |
| armstrong | I missed last week meeting :) time zone thing | 18:58 |
| tonyb | armstrong: It's okay. TZs are hard ;P | 18:58 |
| tonyb | #startmeeting releaseteam | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 16 19:00:00 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 19:00 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 19:00 |
| tonyb | ttx dhellmann diablo_rojo hberaud evrardjp fungi armstrong: Release team meeting is starting | 19:00 |
| ttx | o/ | 19:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: [monasca] final releases for pike https://review.opendev.org/652854 | 19:00 |
| * tonyb will point out that the start time was "Thu May 16 19:00:00 2019 UTC" #nailedit! | 19:00 | |
| smcginnis | Tests took 30 seconds too long. | 19:00 |
| smcginnis | Haha, nice! | 19:00 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: gotta take the wins ;P | 19:01 |
| evrardjp | o/ (but commuting back home so that I can have my laptop) | 19:01 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | o/ | 19:01 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 19:01 |
| tonyb | ttx: has (as always) set us up with a good agenda | 19:02 |
| tonyb | okay let's start | 19:03 |
| tonyb | #topic Confirm task assignments from https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/relmgmt-train-ptg | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Confirm task assignments from https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/relmgmt-train-ptg (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 19:03 | |
| ttx | So there were a fez open question marks on last week assignment exercise | 19:04 |
| ttx | few* | 19:04 |
| tonyb | Yup we have evrardjp here today so ... | 19:04 |
| * smcginnis wants an official release team fez | 19:04 | |
| ttx | On the process changes we had to complete by train-1... | 19:04 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | So we can assign him a bunch of stuff. | 19:04 |
| ttx | Do stable autoreleases around milestones: evrardjp? | 19:04 |
| ttx | Track release liaisons in deliverable files: diablo_rojo? | 19:05 |
| * diablo_rojo_phon agrees with smcginnis's fez idea | 19:05 | |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Yeah I can take that one. | 19:05 |
| tonyb | I was thinking he can let us know his capacaity but sure we can just give it all to him ;P | 19:05 |
| evrardjp | haha | 19:06 |
| ttx | evrardjp: are you ok with driving that change? | 19:06 |
| evrardjp | I am not yet sure if I can take this, tbh. | 19:06 |
| evrardjp | s/yet// | 19:06 |
| ttx | do we have anyone else who could take it? needs to be completed soon enough | 19:06 |
| evrardjp | that's the problem for me | 19:06 |
| ttx | I can't, my travel schedule in crazy in june | 19:06 |
| tonyb | I can do the scripting side of things but the hard part is looking at each deliverable and making the call on if it needs to be released | 19:07 |
| smcginnis | I'm hesitant to sign up for anything because I'm not sure how much time I am going to have to devote to things soon, but I'm willing to help someone else. | 19:07 |
| tonyb | ttx: I did notcie that ;P | 19:07 |
| ttx | t-1 is in 3 weeks | 19:07 |
| ttx | I mean it's also crazy in May | 19:07 |
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| smcginnis | tonyb: I had looked at making the scripting interactive where it could print out the changes, then you y/n whether anything requires a release. | 19:08 |
| ttx | come to think of it, July is not really better :| | 19:08 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | ....I could maybe take it. With help. | 19:08 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | My June doesn't suck. | 19:08 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Just the rest of this month. | 19:08 |
| evrardjp | lucky you | 19:08 |
| tonyb | I think you're traveling too much :/ | 19:08 |
| ttx | hmm, do we NEED to have it done by train-1? | 19:08 |
| tonyb | ttx: I was just going to ask that | 19:09 |
| ttx | I said t1 because we kinda wanted to do that milestone in autorelease | 19:09 |
| fungi | not really on-topic, but tonyb mentioned a great meeting agenda just didn't link to it (and the irc-meetings data doesn't include one either)... can haz link? | 19:09 |
| tonyb | it was a preety soft "lets do it at this time" rather than a hard "it must be done" | 19:09 |
| ttx | but I guess we could also not do anything for t1 | 19:09 |
| evrardjp | We can work on it this cycle and put that 'in prod' for next ? ;) | 19:09 |
| tonyb | fungi: sorry | 19:10 |
| tonyb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/train-relmgt-tracking | 19:10 |
| fungi | thanks! | 19:10 |
| smcginnis | s/train-1/as soon as possible/ | 19:10 |
| ttx | evrardjp: we ship to prod here | 19:10 |
| tonyb | Line 134'ish | 19:10 |
| evrardjp | :) | 19:10 |
| ttx | evrardjp: could you take it if it was a t2 thing? | 19:10 |
| ttx | (July 24) | 19:10 |
| evrardjp | probably the same as t1 | 19:11 |
| evrardjp | so I would say no. | 19:11 |
| evrardjp | but after it looks better | 19:11 |
| evrardjp | "theoretically " | 19:11 |
| ttx | smcginnis: could you mentor diablo_rojo through it ? | 19:12 |
| evrardjp | sorry :/ | 19:12 |
| tonyb | evrardjp: It's all good. | 19:12 |
| tonyb | evrardjp: You can make it up to us later ;P | 19:13 |
| evrardjp | :) | 19:13 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Sure, I can help. | 19:13 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: thanks | 19:13 |
| ttx | OK so I'll move that task on the PTG doc to t2 and make it diablo_rojo mentored by smcginnis | 19:14 |
| evrardjp | thx ttx | 19:14 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | If we did it for T1 what's the actual date on that? | 19:14 |
| tonyb | that'll mean we can use the liasion stuff diablo_rojo_phon is doing/will do | 19:14 |
| ttx | before June 6 | 19:14 |
| ttx | I mean you can always finish before | 19:15 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | smcginnis if you're free the fee days leading up to that I think we can have it done then. | 19:15 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | *few | 19:15 |
| smcginnis | We can also start with a crawl, walk, run approach and start semi-manual/semi-automated and work towards complete(r) automation later. | 19:16 |
| * tonyb likes smcginnis idea to add '--interactive' to new-release which will help with this | 19:16 | |
| ttx | We also had a must-do improvement | 19:16 |
| ttx | Add a tool script for producing the list of intermediary deliverables that have not released | 19:16 |
| ttx | I'll do that one if nobody else wants it | 19:16 |
| evrardjp | tonyb : agreed | 19:16 |
| smcginnis | That one is basically a wrapper around the existing commands to make the task easier, right? | 19:17 |
| tonyb | ttx: I think it's yours ;P | 19:17 |
| ttx | smcginnis: I guess | 19:17 |
| smcginnis | Going once, going twice, sold to ttx | 19:17 |
| ttx | haven't looked :) | 19:17 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: I like your style | 19:17 |
| smcginnis | ;) | 19:17 |
| ttx | ok, I have nothing more on this topic | 19:18 |
| dhellmann | tonyb , smcginnis : regarding the interactive mode, harlowja built a tool like that in the repo already (don't remember the name, but look at the list of cli apps in setup.cfg) | 19:18 |
| dhellmann | I think it's out of date, but it should be possible to update it | 19:18 |
| dhellmann | or at least crib from it to update new-release | 19:18 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: Yup I do recall that | 19:18 |
| smcginnis | That would be great to have a starting point. | 19:18 |
| tonyb | interactive-release ? | 19:19 |
| dhellmann | probably | 19:19 |
| smcginnis | Huh, would you look at that. :) | 19:19 |
| smcginnis | Might be worth doing an inventory of all our commands and tools and get that all in once place with short descriptions. | 19:19 |
| smcginnis | s/once/one/ | 19:20 |
| dhellmann | I thought we had that in the readme, too, but maybe not | 19:20 |
| tonyb | It's in the readme | 19:20 |
| dhellmann | that's probably out of date, too | 19:20 |
| smcginnis | I think we do for the tools we want others to use. Maybe not. | 19:20 |
| dhellmann | man, the old release team was really a bunch of slackers | 19:20 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, likely could use a refresh at any rate. | 19:20 |
| smcginnis | Hah! | 19:20 |
| evrardjp | dhellmann: haha | 19:20 |
| ttx | especially the last 3 PTLs | 19:20 |
| tonyb | Okay I'll do that | 19:20 |
| tonyb | at least those PTLs could send email on time .. this new PTL ... what a schmuck! | 19:21 |
| smcginnis | Hah!! | 19:21 |
| ttx | now onto pike-em fun | 19:21 |
| dhellmann | email on time or meeting on time, pick one | 19:21 |
| tonyb | hehe | 19:22 |
| evrardjp | :) | 19:22 |
| smcginnis | tonyb: To be fair, I think it took me a few weeks to get into the habit. | 19:22 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: I'll take it | 19:22 |
| tonyb | #topic pike-em | 19:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "pike-em (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 19:22 | |
| smcginnis | Monasca should be ready to go now. Then we just need to update the pike-em tagging patch. | 19:23 |
| * ttx fetches a drink | 19:23 | |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I emailed the four PTLs/liaisons. | 19:23 |
| smcginnis | Awesome! | 19:23 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, a few of them have shown more attention the last few days, so that has helped. | 19:23 |
| tonyb | Looks like tripleo is released we just need the pike-em tag | 19:24 |
| smcginnis | Tricircle is stuck pending an update for the sphinx requirements that's blocking the README fixes needed. | 19:24 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Glad it want wasted effort :) | 19:24 |
| smcginnis | I think I just pushed tripleo a little earlier. | 19:24 |
| evrardjp | yup saw that :) thanks smcginnis | 19:24 |
| smcginnis | We have monasca (ready), tricircle, and puppet. | 19:25 |
| tonyb | so how much longer do we give tricircle or puppet? | 19:25 |
| tonyb | and heat is a whole other question | 19:25 |
| smcginnis | A couple heat and ansible issues that are bigger. | 19:26 |
| tonyb | we did say today we'd just tag the existing releases as pike-em and declare it done | 19:26 |
| evrardjp | ansible ? | 19:26 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo_phon: Is that what you communicated? ^^ | 19:26 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Yeah. | 19:26 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I said if there was no action by today we'd just tag them | 19:26 |
| evrardjp | something new I should be aware ? | 19:26 |
| tonyb | evrardjp: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/train-relmgt-tracking Line 118 | 19:27 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: Links to failures in the etherpad, but os_molteniron had a releasenotes job failure and python-pankoclient had a tagging failure. | 19:27 |
| smcginnis | The python-pankoclient failure is a bit odd. | 19:27 |
| tonyb | Umm yeah that is odd | 19:28 |
| evrardjp | I see, it's probably with the fact we discussed retiring this repo | 19:28 |
| evrardjp | but it isn't retired yet | 19:28 |
| smcginnis | So maybe both of those are safe to ignore and we can just do the final taggin? | 19:29 |
| smcginnis | g | 19:29 |
| smcginnis | Err, wait. I think these were on the final taggin. | 19:29 |
| evrardjp | I can't judge for pankoclient | 19:29 |
| smcginnis | Gah, can't spell ing. | 19:29 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: yeah I think at least pankoclient was the pike-em tag | 19:29 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: and the tag is in that repo | 19:30 |
| fungi | were there any failures associated with the zuul artifacts issue yesterday which need to be rerun? we had to dequeue some refs, i think tripleo-ui at a minimum | 19:30 |
| smcginnis | fungi: None I've seen. | 19:30 |
| smcginnis | os_molteniron has the pike-em tag too. | 19:30 |
| smcginnis | So I guess we're good. | 19:30 |
| tonyb | fungi: like what smcginnis said ;P | 19:30 |
| smcginnis | So Heat's the big question mark at this point. | 19:31 |
| tonyb | yeah | 19:31 |
| smcginnis | But also maybe something we can just ignore and move on. | 19:31 |
| tonyb | we can fix it but that kinda means a new release | 19:31 |
| tonyb | I kinda think just declare pike-em done ... with some issues and aim for better with queens | 19:32 |
| smcginnis | I'm fine with that. | 19:32 |
| tonyb | which *should* be better if we do the automatic releases we disussed | 19:32 |
| smcginnis | We'll hit this with queens too, so either we need to get them to do some work, or we can just expect it and ignore it again. | 19:32 |
| ttx | ++ | 19:32 |
| dhellmann | what's the story with heat? is there something blocking the name change? | 19:32 |
| tonyb | less bitrot anyway, and less delta from the last release | 19:32 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: They changed from heat to openstack-heat in later (sooner?) branches, but didn't go back to pike and queens with those updates. | 19:33 |
| dhellmann | yeah, so they just need to fix that, right? | 19:33 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: I don't think it's blocked just hasn't been done | 19:33 |
| dhellmann | ok | 19:33 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: Yup | 19:33 |
| smcginnis | That would make things a little easier. | 19:33 |
| dhellmann | as long as it's just a matter of not doing it | 19:33 |
| dhellmann | tell them there won't be any new releases from any branch until that's done :-) | 19:33 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: ;P | 19:34 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Haha :) | 19:34 |
| dhellmann | or, you know, make the validation job report that failure | 19:35 |
| dhellmann | do what you have to | 19:36 |
| evrardjp | that doesn't sounds like a problem a little socialization wouldn't fix | 19:37 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: validation is already failing | 19:37 |
| dhellmann | tonyb : yeah, I was making a joke about having it fail on master, too | 19:38 |
| dhellmann | "all branches must be publishable" | 19:38 |
| tonyb | evrardjp: I think the only tension really is our desire to get the pike-em stuff off the plate and the (probably small) delays that fixinx it in heat will take | 19:38 |
| evrardjp | makes sense | 19:38 |
| tonyb | the heat team is alsmost certainly okay with it and has been pretty responsive | 19:38 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: ahh sorry I missed it ;P | 19:39 |
| tonyb | Let's just fix queens and declare pike done, as per the email diablo_rojo_phon sent | 19:40 |
| tonyb | it's a little unfair to heat but then we can put pike behind us | 19:41 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 19:41 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Works for me. | 19:41 |
| tonyb | okay moving on | 19:42 |
| smcginnis | So just to make sure I have the plan, drop any outstanding final releases (other than Monasca that is ready to go) and update the pike-em patches to just use the last successfully release versions. | 19:42 |
| smcginnis | Right? | 19:42 |
| tonyb | #topic Do we want to add per-projects links for Feature freeze | 19:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Do we want to add per-projects links for Feature freeze (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 19:42 | |
| tonyb | smcginnis: correct | 19:42 |
| tonyb | so on $topic | 19:42 |
| smcginnis | I raised this one on a few reviews of project specific deadlines. | 19:42 |
| smcginnis | A few have added $project Feature Freeze on the overall feature freeze week. | 19:42 |
| smcginnis | So.. a bit redundant IMO as that applies to everyone already. | 19:43 |
| tonyb | yup | 19:43 |
| ttx | I'd say unless they have a specific thing it's not worth mentioning each | 19:43 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I think if it's different than the official feature freeze (like being earlier) it would be fine. | 19:43 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | But it doesn't make sense to restate what is already there. | 19:44 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, earlier is good and should definitely be called out. | 19:44 |
| smcginnis | So everyone OK if I put up a patch to remove those? | 19:44 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Fine by me. | 19:44 |
| smcginnis | We could even still leave the text descriptions in under the project section, just not have them linked from the weekly table. | 19:44 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: yup | 19:45 |
| smcginnis | OK, I'll take that action then if no one is against the idea. | 19:45 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: all yours | 19:45 |
| tonyb | #topic openstack-manuals owned by releases team? | 19:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "openstack-manuals owned by releases team? (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 19:46 | |
| smcginnis | I added this one. | 19:46 |
| smcginnis | Not sure if folks saw, but there's been a lot of conversation on the ML and in the -tc channel about the idea of getting rid of the docs team. | 19:46 |
| * tonyb missed the chatter but saw the reviews | 19:47 | |
| smcginnis | And one idea raised was whether it made sense to move openstack-manuals under the release team since it is now just a coordinating spot for docs. | 19:47 |
| smcginnis | And there's just some procedural stuff that needs to happen around release time. | 19:47 |
| smcginnis | Other than some tooling that other folks sound willing to still maintain. | 19:47 |
| smcginnis | So just wanted to raise it here to get folks thinking about it, pro or con, in case that developed more. | 19:48 |
| smcginnis | I'm not sure what my opinion is yet. :) | 19:48 |
| tonyb | I haven't checked the review, but I more or less said openstack-manuals should be owned by a project team, realeases the least worse | 19:49 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I guess it kinda makes logical sense to live under us. | 19:49 |
| ttx | If the mainenance needed is all around release cycles, then yes it makes sense | 19:50 |
| tonyb | I know we have items around release time that we corordinate with them, but that isn't all of it | 19:50 |
| smcginnis | I think I'd like to understand a little more of what that team currently does throughout the cycle to make sure we don't sign up for too much should the existing docs folks get pulled away. | 19:50 |
| tonyb | for example I recent;y added the EM SIG to the site | 19:51 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Could make them like a sub team? | 19:51 |
| tonyb | that's very "not releases", and I'd be pretty uncomfortable owning that side of things | 19:51 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | smcginnis +1 | 19:51 |
| tonyb | so as long as we can keep some of the existing core team ... | 19:51 |
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| ttx | yes I feel like I'm missing details on what it would take to handle that | 19:52 |
| tonyb | okay, so who wants to run that investigation? | 19:52 |
| * tonyb kinda looks at TC memebers ;P | 19:53 | |
| tonyb | oh look we have a few of those ;P | 19:53 |
| ttx | I think dhellmann has a better understanding than most of what is involved | 19:53 |
| ttx | and we need to make a decision soon enough | 19:53 |
| smcginnis | I think I'm leaning towards rather still having a docs team and stepping in if Stephen just doesn't want to be the PTL for it. | 19:53 |
| clarkb | Not to interrupt but I wanted to mention that gerrit replication has caught up so it should be safe to do release work again (thank you for your patience) | 19:53 |
| ttx | \o/ | 19:53 |
| smcginnis | clarkb: Thanks! | 19:54 |
| tonyb | clarkb: \o/ | 19:54 |
| tonyb | I'd rathre keep the docs team too but that doens't seem to the be the direction the docs team is going | 19:55 |
| ttx | ok no time left so let's iterate on that review | 19:56 |
| tonyb | okay | 19:57 |
| tonyb | last item shoudl be quick | 19:57 |
| tonyb | #topic meeting next week | 19:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "meeting next week (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 19:57 | |
| tonyb | many of y'all are in BCN next week and I assume will not be wanting to have an IRC meeting at 2000 on Thursday | 19:57 |
| smcginnis | Most of us will be out. | 19:57 |
| tonyb | so cancel it? | 19:57 |
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| tonyb | that has the benfit that I get an extra hours sleep ;P | 19:58 |
| smcginnis | Then I'm in favor of cancelling. :) | 19:58 |
| tonyb | \o/ | 19:58 |
| tonyb | y'all can have an in bar^wperson meeting instead | 19:58 |
| ttx | yes cancel | 19:58 |
| ttx | I'll be on a plane anyway | 19:59 |
| tonyb | pfft | 19:59 |
| tonyb | okay I think we're done here | 19:59 |
| evrardjp | thanks everyone | 19:59 |
| ttx | the sort of plane that does not have wifi | 19:59 |
| tonyb | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Release Managers office - Come here to discuss how to release OpenStack components - Logged at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-release/" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 16 20:00:00 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-05-16-19.00.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-05-16-19.00.txt | 20:00 |
| smcginnis | Thanks! | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-05-16-19.00.log.html | 20:00 |
| tonyb | #nailed it | 20:00 |
| tonyb | Thanks everyone | 20:00 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Thanks tonyb :) | 20:00 |
| smcginnis | Wow, nice! "May 16 20:00:00 2019 UTC" | 20:01 |
| smcginnis | Military precision. | 20:01 |
| tonyb | I am unreasonably pleased with those timestamps | 20:01 |
| tonyb | ... now coffee | 20:02 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | That's quite impressive | 20:02 |
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| smcginnis | Anyone else want to take a look at that monasca release, or should I just approve it? | 20:03 |
| tonyb[m] | I'm happy for you to just approve it | 20:04 |
| tonyb[m] | I think I'm the owner so probably shouldn't anyway | 20:04 |
| smcginnis | I've made updates too, but think we're OK. I'll hit the button. | 20:05 |
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| tonyb[m] | Thanks smcginnis | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Drop project FF from train schedule FF week https://review.opendev.org/659657 | 20:07 |
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| dhellmann | sorry, I had to step away | 20:12 |
| dhellmann | the instructions for the documentation end-of-cycle tasks is at https://docs.openstack.org/doc-contrib-guide/release.html | 20:12 |
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| smcginnis | dhellmann: Are there other tasks throughout the cycle that need to be done? Other than just maintaining the tooling? | 20:13 |
| dhellmann | nothing formal as far as I know, but we should ask stephenfin to be sure that hasn't changed | 20:13 |
| smcginnis | If it becomes a SIG or something like that, then I think it's fine for the release team to take ownership of the steps listed there. But if the discussion goes down the full ownership by the release team route, then I would just want to make sure we wouldn't be signing up for more than would make sense for this team. | 20:14 |
| dhellmann | yeah, my proposal is just that we find some team to own the web site, and move all of the documentation in that repo to the sig | 20:15 |
| dhellmann | I'll make that clearer in a comment on the governance patch | 20:15 |
| smcginnis | That sounds like a reasonable approach. | 20:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: [monasca] final releases for pike https://review.opendev.org/652854 | 20:18 |
| tonyb[m] | dhellmann: sounds good. Thanks | 20:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: [monasca] create pike-em tag against final releases https://review.opendev.org/652855 | 22:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: [tricircle] create pike-em tag against final releases https://review.opendev.org/652899 | 22:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: [Puppet OpenStack] final releases for pike https://review.opendev.org/652914 | 22:59 |
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