Tuesday, 2019-02-26

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tonybsmcginnis: Any reason you didn't +W https://review.openstack.org/#/c/636869/200:35
tonyband any reason I shouldn00:36
tonybt?00:36
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/releases master: Release octavia-lib 1.0.1  https://review.openstack.org/63925004:11
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openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack/releases master: release neutron-lib 1.25.0  https://review.openstack.org/63925506:13
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smcginnistonyb: No, I think I was just giving others a chance to review first. Been trying not to quickly approve as much so there's more opportunity to have things to review.12:33
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Proposed release schedule for Train  https://review.openstack.org/63674217:36
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openstackgerritsean mooney proposed openstack/releases master: release os-vif 1.15.0  https://review.openstack.org/63921418:44
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tonyb[m]smcginnis: cool.  I'll keep that in mind :-D19:19
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smcginnistonyb[m]: You don't really need to, but if you see me review but not approve, that's probably why. ;)19:21
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clarkbHello release team20:03
clarkbThe infra team has a small number of services running on trusty servers that need to be upgraded to xenial or newer because of the trusty EOL in a couple months20:03
clarkbThe afs servers and the static logs server are the two big ones that can potentially impact release work20:04
clarkbWould it be better to plan to do this before or after the RC1s happen March 22nd ish?20:04
smcginnisclarkb: Any idea how big of a transition that will be?20:06
clarkbthe static logs server transition should be quick. We have to mvoe cinder volumes from one host to another and then mount them. I'm guessing 15 minutes total outage between that and dns updates20:07
smcginnisLow risk that something won't work right?20:07
clarkbfor that server ya20:07
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clarkbthe afs one is a bit more opaque to me20:07
clarkbafs has database servers that keep track of where the data is and volume servers. We should be able to do the volume server upgrades without major impact20:08
clarkbwe won't be able to update our ubuntu mirrors (and the other mirrors) but the existing data should be served20:08
smcginnisHard to say for me if it's better before or after RC1.20:09
clarkbwith the db servers I think we have to take them offline together and do the upgrade since apparently you don't want to mix versions of those20:09
smcginnisProbably more overall activity before, but between RC1 and final release there can be some critical work.20:09
clarkbso I think the afs db servers are the big one and maybe that takes an hour or two of updating servers?20:09
smcginnisI guess I would lean towards doing it before RC1 to give some time to recover from any unknowns before we hit the real crunch time leading up to final release.20:10
clarkbok20:10
smcginnisMy 2 cents at least.20:10
dhellmannI agree. The period right after RC1 is usually very busy, so if we can do it before I'd feel better.20:11
clarkbit is worth noting that the afs stuff would only affect things that tie into afs.20:14
clarkbWhich is mostly docs I think20:14
clarkbthough it is possible our mirrors would be affected too20:14
clarkb(I'm still learning me an openafs database cluster management)20:14
smcginnisI could see mirror issues being a big problem.20:16
clarkbsmcginnis: ya where my knowledge is fuzzy is on the afs db side of things. I know we can do updates of the volume servers (the actual data hosts) without impact. We've done rolling reboots of those in the past20:17
clarkbsmcginnis: and we can in theory udpate our job config to talk to the official mirrors while we do any outage inducing updates20:17
clarkb(some jobs may not refer to the global configs in which case they would be broken)20:17
smcginnisclarkb: I don't suppose any of that can be a background operation of expanding and contracting the AFS cluster to add the new nodes, make sure everythings happy, then retire out the old ones?20:18
clarkbsmcginnis: I wish. It is technically possible but all the suggestions seem to be that the afsdb servers don't change IP addrs20:19
clarkbbecause you hae to update all the clients when you do that20:19
smcginnisAh20:19
clarkbThe more I'm reading the more I am getting comfortable doing rolling updates. So we should be able to take server A offline, update it, bring it back, sync. Then do the same for B. We'd only have an outage if A or B dies while the other is off20:21
smcginnisI will knock on wood for you. :)20:22
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openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Update process with command line instruction  https://review.openstack.org/63823722:23
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Update process with command line instruction  https://review.openstack.org/63823722:48
sean-k-mooneyo/22:50
sean-k-mooneyhi everyone. i have been preparin the 1.15.0 relase of os-vif for the last few days and all pending changes have now merged.22:50
sean-k-mooneyi have started a recheck on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/639214/ which is currently in the gate queue22:51
smcginnissean-k-mooney: Great, I'll try to take a look in a little bit.22:52
sean-k-mooneyif people are about in an hour or two when it complete it would be good to merge this today if possible to give as much time as we can for the gate to flush out any issue we might not seen22:52
sean-k-mooneysmcginnis: thanks22:52
sean-k-mooneyi had planned to do this last friday be we held the release for 2 extra days to get some patches that were close to merging22:53
sean-k-mooneysmcginnis: just looking at your comand line patch22:55
sean-k-mooneysmcginnis: are there tools in the release repo that can help stub out the content of the deliverables file?22:55
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smcginnissean-k-mooney: Yep, absolutely! Let me find you a link.22:56
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smcginnissean-k-mooney: You might find this handy - https://releases.openstack.org/reference/using.html#using-new-release-command22:57
sean-k-mooneyhaha cool ill give it a try for the m1 release of os-vif22:57
smcginnisGreat, let us know if you run in to any problems with it.22:57
sean-k-mooneyit took me a while to hear about the automated release via the repo instead of doing it the old way via signing git tags with pgp key and pushing to pypi.  how many months/years have i missed this this time?22:59
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sean-k-mooneyanyway thank i better go to sleep. night all o/23:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release rocky neutron-dynamic-routing 13.0.1  https://review.openstack.org/63913723:26
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