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| ttx | evrardjp: regarding the OSA's non-tagging of roles... you're still using branches and the releases repo, so that would likely not qualify for release:none | 09:32 |
| ttx | that's why we have http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/releases/tree/deliverables/stein/openstack-ansible-roles.yaml | 09:32 |
| evrardjp | yes but we are not tagging | 09:32 |
| evrardjp | we are just branching | 09:32 |
| evrardjp | so what would that be if not none? | 09:33 |
| evrardjp | we can go for external,I don't mind | 09:33 |
| evrardjp | but that didn't sound matching either | 09:33 |
| ttx | sure... but the concern here is to track what is under release management (the openstack/releases repo) and what is not | 09:33 |
| ttx | I guess I should make that clearer in the commit message | 09:33 |
| evrardjp | Indeed | 09:33 |
| ttx | tagless deliverables are still "released" in that sense | 09:34 |
| ttx | maybe 'release-management: none' , 'release-management: external' would make more sense | 09:35 |
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| * ttx updates | 09:35 | |
| evrardjp | "deliverables that are not using tags for their 'release', or that are continuously consumed (docs, specs, cookiecutters...)" are matching for OSA that's why I was confused | 09:35 |
| ttx | yeah, that did not take into account tagless things, let me rewrite | 09:36 |
| ttx | while I'm at it, anything in ansible that would qualify as release-management:none ? | 09:36 |
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| ttx | openstack-ansible-os_monasca-ui | 09:37 |
| ttx | openstack-ansible-pip_lock_down | 09:37 |
| ttx | openstack-ansible-os_freezer | 09:37 |
| ttx | openstack-ansible-os_karbor | 09:37 |
| ttx | ansible-config_template | 09:37 |
| ttx | openstack-ansible-security | 09:37 |
| ttx | in particular those ^ appear to not be managed | 09:37 |
| evrardjp | so openstack-ansible-security is retired same as pip_lock_down | 09:37 |
| evrardjp | os_monasca-ui os_freezer and os_karbor projects were dropped by their contributor without ever getting a release. I called for the community to contribute, else they will be retired | 09:38 |
| evrardjp | ansible-config_template is new, and may or may not be tagged in the future for consumption into galaxy.ansible.com, which could be external. For now it's only a master deliverable (moving target) | 09:39 |
| evrardjp | (it's new so no need for branching) | 09:39 |
| ttx | ok | 09:39 |
| evrardjp | it's not that easy, as I don't really see how this release-management meets the existing release-styles yet. | 09:40 |
| ttx | added notes to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/UChiqxElUV | 09:40 |
| evrardjp | it's just if release-management is not None or External, then we are considering part of 'releases' therefore matches release styles? | 09:40 |
| evrardjp | oh Yes I saw the etherpad, and I wanted to discuss with you the state before writing. I am glad you brought it up | 09:41 |
| evrardjp | so my concern is ansible-config_template -- in the future we might be wanting to tag it, and it may be branched under certain circumstances (like ansible versions), but I generally think it should not follow openstack branching/releasing strategy. | 09:43 |
| evrardjp | in that case, I'd have done an 'independant' deliverable, but I am wondering if that should not be even a release-management: external' instead | 09:43 |
| evrardjp | opinion? | 09:44 |
| evrardjp | I guess we can leave it as is for now, and should we want/need to tag, we'll see | 09:45 |
| ttx | if it can be handled through openstack/releases, then it would not be external | 09:46 |
| ttx | External means the Ansible team would be handling its release management | 09:47 |
| ttx | because it would not fit what we can offer, and the TC would acknowledge that it's fine in that specific case | 09:47 |
| ttx | Let's keep it as an open question for now | 09:49 |
| evrardjp | yeah | 09:52 |
| ttx | ok, new version pushed | 09:52 |
| evrardjp | I also prefer going through openstack/releases, as I am more familiar with that. But it's a community experiment right out there, so we'll see how the community reacts | 09:52 |
| evrardjp | thanks | 09:52 |
| evrardjp | let me review it again then | 09:52 |
| evrardjp | I also think that release-management is clearer to understand | 09:53 |
| evrardjp | I am curious if release-management: none shouldn't be applied to retired repositories, but that's a conversation for another time. | 09:54 |
| evrardjp | thanks for the work there ttx | 09:56 |
| ttx | could add release-management: retired | 09:56 |
| evrardjp | exactly :) | 09:57 |
| evrardjp | but later :) | 09:57 |
| ttx | like 'that repo is about to disappear, don't care too much about it' | 09:57 |
| ttx | we have a couple in the standing exceptions etherpad | 09:57 |
| evrardjp | yeah -- I have the impression it's a better source of truth for the code in release tooling too | 09:57 |
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| evrardjp | I mean the deliverable would be skipped quite earlier | 09:58 |
| ttx | yes, currently it's difficult to track outliers (things that are official but are not released) | 09:58 |
| evrardjp | (it's been a while I haven't checked the code I am talking about) | 09:58 |
| ttx | this will make it more automatable | 09:59 |
| evrardjp | well governance repo is branchless, so sometimes it's hard to track state | 09:59 |
| ttx | currently we just create skeleton files in the releases repo and pray | 09:59 |
| evrardjp | but assuming we can't do releases for the past, this should be alright | 09:59 |
| evrardjp | yeah | 09:59 |
| evrardjp | I think I need to walk through the code one good time again, so I can have a view of what can be changed. I am still new here | 10:00 |
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| smcginnis | ttx: +1 to release-management: foo. I think that's more clear. | 11:26 |
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| ttx | yes, allows to avoid overloaded "release" term | 11:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Luka Peschke proposed openstack/releases master: Release python-cloudkittyclient 2.1.0 https://review.openstack.org/612848 | 12:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/releases master: Release ironic-python-agent 3.4.0 https://review.openstack.org/613400 | 14:19 |
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| ttx | smcginnis: meeting? | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | Was just waiting for the last one to finish. | 15:01 |
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| smcginnis | ttx: Not sure how freezer-tempest-plugin was skipped, but wonder if we should get that tagged for rocky. | 15:57 |
| smcginnis | tempest-horizon too. | 15:58 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Do you know why some of the xstatic repos were never released in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/UChiqxElUV ? | 15:58 |
| ttx | repos were never tagged | 15:59 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: some of them are not used in horizon | 16:04 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: I'll recheck the list later tonight or tomorrow morning | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Are they retired or abandoned? | 16:04 |
| e0ne | oops.. Monday morning | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: OK, no rush. Just wanted to point that out since you were still around. | 16:04 |
| clarkb | wasn't one of the concerns that we were carrying local patches of the js too? | 16:05 |
| e0ne | e.g. xstatic-angular-ui-router was supposed to be used but we still didn't implement anything related | 16:06 |
| clarkb | and so didn't want to publish them as if they were actual $js_lib contents? | 16:06 |
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| e0ne | clarkb: we don't allow custom patches to xstatic-*. it's just a python package wrapper around JS libs | 16:07 |
| * e0ne needs to heads home. be available in ~2 hours | 16:08 | |
| clarkb | e0ne: I know but for a while we were making patches like that | 16:08 |
| clarkb | (there was a big long thread about it on the ml and I want to say one of the things we did in resposne was to stop publishing those particular packages?) | 16:09 |
| e0ne | clarkb: what patches do you mean? | 16:09 |
| e0ne | I missed that thread | 16:09 |
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| clarkb | "[openstack-dev] [horizon][xstatic]How to handle xstatic if upstream files are modified" was th thread but e0ne is gone :/ | 16:11 |
| clarkb | it came up when that particular package had failed to release for unrelated reasons | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, I remember that thread. | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | I thought (but no actual knowledge of the matter) that they addressed the issues there by not modifying the code anymore. | 16:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Corey Bryant proposed openstack/releases master: Release ldappool 2.4.0 https://review.openstack.org/613632 | 16:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Corey Bryant proposed openstack/releases master: Release ldappool 2.4.0 https://review.openstack.org/613632 | 16:26 |
| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/releases master: nova: release stein 19.0.0.0b1 https://review.openstack.org/613636 | 16:30 |
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| smcginnis | melwitt: Do you have someone that needs Nova beta releases? | 16:33 |
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| melwitt | smcginnis: I'm not sure, but it's what we have been doing in the past | 16:34 |
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| smcginnis | melwitt: Would you mind waiting to see if someone asks for it? | 16:34 |
| melwitt | smcginnis: I guess not. why? | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | melwitt: Just making sure you've seen http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/135088.html and are doing a beta release for a reason. | 16:35 |
| melwitt | smcginnis: I have, I thought it said beta releases are optional. so I was thinking since we don't know whether folks pick them up or not and we have always had them, that it wouldn't hurt to do it in case people out there expected it | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | OK, that was an unknown assumption we were hoping to get rid of by making this switch. But if you still want to we can release it. | 16:37 |
| melwitt | if you think we should wait until someone asks, that's cool. just explaining what I was thinking when I proposed it | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | It is totally up to you, but my personal preference would be to not do one unless we find an actual need for it. | 16:37 |
| melwitt | ok, I'll consult with mriedem_away and see if we can ask some operators we know if they would like a s-1 release | 16:39 |
| smcginnis | Sounds like a good plan. Thanks! | 16:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Corey Bryant proposed openstack/releases master: Release ldappool 2.4.0 and create stable/rocky branch https://review.openstack.org/613632 | 16:56 |
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| amotoki | smcginnis: I am now checking the need of neutron release around stein-1 which was pointed out in the relmgt team meeting. | 17:01 |
| smcginnis | Thanks amotoki! | 17:02 |
| amotoki | smcginnis: I need to check the needs in detail but basically we don't need to release it now. | 17:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Mark Ocata as extended maintenance https://review.openstack.org/598164 | 20:30 |
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| ade_lee | smcginnis, ping -- I recall there was a discussion about not having to do milestone releases anymore -- is that the case or do we still need to do a m1? | 20:42 |
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| ade_lee | dhellmann, ^ | 20:44 |
| smcginnis | ade_lee: That is correct. cycle-with-milestone release model deliverables are switching to cycle-with-rc, so only the RC and final releases are required. | 20:45 |
| ade_lee | smcginnis, ok great. thanks! | 20:46 |
| smcginnis | ade_lee: Here is the ML thread if you care to read through all the details - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/135088.html | 20:47 |
| smcginnis | But I think I've pretty much summarized the important parts. ;) | 20:47 |
| ade_lee | smcginnis, yup - I remember seeing the thread - but it was billed as proposed changes -- was not sure if those were actually adopted | 20:48 |
| ade_lee | smcginnis, I'm certainly happy *not* to have to work. :) | 20:49 |
| smcginnis | ade_lee: Always great when you get to stop doing things. :) | 20:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/releases master: Release keystone 15.0.0.0b1 https://review.openstack.org/613689 | 21:03 |
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