Thursday, 2018-10-11

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: configure oslotest for debug output  https://review.openstack.org/60477702:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: clarify debug logging for test fixtures  https://review.openstack.org/60477802:39
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openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/releases master: Tag and branch kayobe queens deliverables: 4.0.0  https://review.openstack.org/60950309:24
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openstackgerritTobias Urdin proposed openstack/releases master: Release ceilometer 11.0.1 bugfix  https://review.openstack.org/60965009:45
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/reno master: Switch to use stestr for unit test  https://review.openstack.org/58421610:26
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/reno master: Switch to use stestr for unit test  https://review.openstack.org/58421610:41
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ttxAbout to enter yet another plane tunnel.11:48
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: stop supporting legacy release jobs  https://review.openstack.org/60770411:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: drop support for driverfixes branches  https://review.openstack.org/60878711:50
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openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/releases master: Tag and branch kayobe queens deliverables: 4.0.0  https://review.openstack.org/60950314:00
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mgoddardhi dhellmann14:21
dhellmannhi, markmcclain14:21
dhellmannor mgoddard14:21
dhellmannsilly tab completion14:21
mgoddardclose :)14:21
dhellmannheh, true14:21
mgoddardabout the above review, is releases only for official projects?14:21
dhellmannyes, that's right14:22
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mgoddardah. I'll abandon my patch then14:22
dhellmannok14:22
mgoddardI'm sure that's stated somewhere, but I must have missed it14:22
dhellmannyou should feel free to use the repo validation locally to make sure things are set up as expected14:22
dhellmannhmm, yeah, let me see where that's documented14:23
mgoddardsure, it did catch a few things14:23
mgoddardso without openstack/releases, I need to push a signed tags manually to the repo, right?14:23
dhellmannyes, that's right14:23
mgoddardI have added publish-to-pypi-python3, I assume I'm allowed to use that?14:24
dhellmannoh, sure14:24
mgoddardok. Thanks for the help14:24
dhellmannthe release team just reserves the releases repo for publishing info about official projects, but all of the tools are reusable by anyone14:24
mgoddardI'll dig through and see if there's anything I can use14:25
mgoddard(beyond the validations)14:25
dhellmannI'm not finding where we explicitly say the repo is only for official project teams14:26
dhellmannI was sure we have that somewhere in the infra manual14:26
dhellmannmgoddard : this script may also be useful: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/roles/copy-release-tools-scripts/files/release-tools/release.sh14:27
dhellmannthere's one in that directory for making a branch too14:27
dhellmannthose are the scripts the releases repo jobs run14:27
mgoddardthat looks useful, thanks14:28
mgoddarda 'releases for non-official projects' section might be a nice addition to the docs14:29
mgoddardby releases I mean openstack/releases14:29
dhellmannfound it: https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/drivers.html#tagging-a-release14:30
dhellmannmgoddard : ^14:30
dhellmannalthough that doesn't clearly say "only for official teams"14:31
smcginnisMight be worth adding a note to the openstack/releases README.14:31
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dhellmannsure14:31
mgoddarddhellmann: that's fairly clear, perhaps I didn't fully digest it when adding the project because I wasn't releasing at the time14:32
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mgoddardactually, what might have helped is to reword the project team warning14:33
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: add a note to readme about official teams  https://review.openstack.org/60972314:34
mgoddardTeam 'kayobe' not in governance data14:34
dhellmannah, in the validation?14:34
mgoddardThat is a warning, which is fine since it allows a non-official project to pass the validations, but it might be a good place to explicitly say "don't propose this deliverable file"14:35
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: add a note to readme about official teams  https://review.openstack.org/60972314:36
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dhellmannmgoddard : how's the wording in ^ ?14:36
* mgoddard reviews14:36
mgoddardLGTM14:37
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mgoddardon the plus side, I can make a release without needing to further bother anyone here14:39
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dhellmannmgoddard : thanks for the review; and let me know if you run into any trouble, I'll try to help you out14:42
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mgoddarddhellmann: no problem, and thanks14:46
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openstackgerritDoug Szumski proposed openstack/releases master: Monasca Perister: Release stable/queens 1.10.1  https://review.openstack.org/60893715:55
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mgoddarddhellmann: mind casting your eye over a tag message? http://paste.openstack.org/show/731911/16:49
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: add a note to readme about official teams  https://review.openstack.org/60972317:53
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dhellmannmgoddard : sorry for the delay, you hit me during my commute -- that looks good to my eye18:57
smcginnisWas hoping we had finalized the cycle-with-rc stuff first, but I'm going to send out the next cycle-with-intermediary email to get that going before it's too late.20:00
smcginnisSent20:07
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dhellmannI haven't seen any response from the mail to the operators list on the RC thing20:18
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dhellmannWe only have the 1 bit of feedback from RH so far, right?20:19
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smcginnisYeah, that's all I've heard.20:30
smcginnisOthers are fine with it, don't care, or ignored the email. :)20:30
dhellmannThe plan is certainly not ideal for downstream upgrade testing, but none of the solutions proposed so far are appealing either20:37
dhellmannif we actually want to address the problem we would have to update the version very shortly after creating the branch on master20:38
smcginnisAny way they can just do something on their end to handle it?20:39
dhellmannone way to do that, without adding another patch, would be to stick a pbr instruction into the commit message for the patch that updates the release notes build to include the new branch (that patch goes to master)20:39
dhellmannthey could fake the version numbers, but they're worried that will cause problems if they guess wrong20:39
smcginnisSeems early enough in the process to correct for mistakes like that.20:40
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dhellmannif they guess at the start of the cycle that the version will be 12.0 and don't find out until the end that it's 11.2 or something, then it may cause a lot of fallout20:40
smcginnisBut we do have the automatically generated patches when we branch stable. Seems like it wouldn't be too difficult to add one more to adjust for this.20:40
dhellmannyeah, we could either do an empty patch just for this or we could include it in the reno patch20:41
dhellmannif we just increment the feature level then we'd at least have a newer version, even if it isn't what's ultimately right20:41
dhellmannwe want to be careful though because pbr throws an error if the semver rules say one thing and the tag says something lower20:42
dhellmannwe'd want to make sure we understand those rules completely20:42
clarkbmaybe a tag would be better in that case?20:42
clarkb11.2.0a1 or something20:42
dhellmannyeah, a tag usually triggers a real release, but maybe we could disable the release job for alphas20:43
smcginnisIf they aren't sure about 11.2 vs 12.0, how are we going to be?20:43
dhellmannthe appeal of the patch is we can generate it and then not think about it. with tags we would have to watch for them to have something merged that we could tag (other than the branch point)20:43
dhellmannwe would do something like x.y+1.0.0a120:44
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dhellmannthat should always be ok20:44
dhellmannx.y+1.0 will sort higher than that so pbr should be happy20:44
smcginnisDon't they still have the potential downstream fallout though?20:45
dhellmannalthough a real tag would also get in reno's way20:45
smcginnisJust not clear why is doing that is better than them doing that.20:45
smcginniss/is/us/20:45
dhellmannbecause we can insert it into the flow and everyone gets it. if they do it, they have to do some sort of extra logic to figure out (a) when to do it and (b) when to stop doing it20:46
dhellmannif we do it, it's authoritative20:46
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dhellmannI think I'm actually coming around to liking the pbr thing20:46
dhellmannit's easier to override than a tag, doesn't require us to treat some sorts of tags as special cases, and produces the desired effect20:47
dhellmannI'm torn on whether to do it as a special patch or include it in the reno patch20:47
clarkbthe trouble with the pbr thing is it is really hard to override iirc20:48
clarkbif you say this is a non backward compatible change you have to increment the version by one20:48
dhellmannyeah, I need to look at the rules there20:48
dhellmannwell, we'd only say it's a feature20:48
dhellmannwe already require at least that much on master anyway20:48
dhellmannto save space for patch releases on the branch20:48
clarkbin that case it is probably safer20:48
dhellmanncombining the patches means we can turn that into an "open master for $NEXT_SERIES" patch20:49
dhellmannseparating them makes it clearer that we're doing multiple things20:49
dhellmannstill needs some thought, I guess, but I am coming around to the idea of us doing something.20:50
dhellmannsmcginnis : I'll put this on the agenda for tomorrow's meeting20:51
smcginnisSounds good.20:53
clarkbis this functionality that much different than the old merge back into master thing we did?20:54
clarkbI guess it would bump master ahead of where stable is going version wise20:54
clarkbrather than them both followign the same version path to start20:54
dhellmannclarkb : right, and merging the branches breaks reno's ability to figure out what the real release history is20:55
dhellmannreno or anyone else trying to look at the git history20:55
dhellmannsmcginnis : it looks like ttx is on the road tomorrow (according to the etherpad) so we might have to wait to talk it out with him later, but I've tried to summarize my thoughts in the meeting agenda section20:56
smcginnis+1 good to start it at least. Maybe he'll see it and add some thoughts.20:57
dhellmanncool20:57
dhellmannI'm going to head over to my meetup. ttyl20:58
smcginnisHave a good one.20:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: oslo.upgradecheck 0.1.0  https://review.openstack.org/60940522:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: teach new-release to handle new deliverables  https://review.openstack.org/60940622:22
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