Tuesday, 2018-02-06

openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible pike/16.0.7  https://review.openstack.org/54060400:02
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: pymod2pkg: Release 0.12.0  https://review.openstack.org/54087500:02
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prometheanfire-2-W unless ffe'd https://review.openstack.org/541081 (pymod2pkg)01:33
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prometheanfirepypi bad still?01:46
prometheanfireseems kinda slow (normally good by recheck time)01:46
prometheanfire2018-02-05 23:42:00.385467 | ubuntu-xenial | No matching distribution found for sushy===1.3.1 (from -c /home/zuul/src/git.openstack.org/openstack/requirements/upper-constraints.txt (line 338))01:46
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/releases master: Release Octavia projects for Queens RC1  https://review.openstack.org/54109202:05
openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/releases master: Release Octavia projects for Queens RC1  https://review.openstack.org/54109202:07
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smcginnisHopefully our pypi mirrors aren't _not_ syncing again.02:29
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible ocata/15.1.15  https://review.openstack.org/54077303:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release ovsdbapp 0.4.2  https://review.openstack.org/53958703:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: aodh 5.1.0 (pike)  https://review.openstack.org/53964503:14
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Our Zuul infrastructure is currently experiencing some problems and processing jobs very slowly, we're investigating. Please do not approve or recheck changes for now.10:30
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smcginnisLooks like it's going to be another one of those days.13:38
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ttxyep14:06
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: use repository-settings to get a default list of repo names  https://review.openstack.org/54052014:20
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: add a warning for repo used in release but not in repository-settings  https://review.openstack.org/54052114:20
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: only check release jobs if there are new releases to tag  https://review.openstack.org/54097514:20
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: make validate report more verbose  https://review.openstack.org/54101114:20
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: only validate releases that have not yet been tagged  https://review.openstack.org/54101214:20
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: add repo names to repository-settings for pike  https://review.openstack.org/54086414:20
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: add repo names to repository-settings for ocata  https://review.openstack.org/54086514:20
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: add repo names to repository-settings for queens  https://review.openstack.org/54052214:20
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: deprecate the use of highlights attached to a release  https://review.openstack.org/54086614:20
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: split validation of tarball-base into its own function  https://review.openstack.org/54101914:20
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dhellmannprometheanfire : why is rpm-packaging even synchronizing requirements? that's not a runtime thing, is it?14:22
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prometheanfiredhellmann: I'm not sure why the project needs sync'd reqs, my guess is some tripleo thing14:32
dhellmannprometheanfire : we've had several project teams do that because they thought they had to, without understanding the point of it14:34
dhellmannmaybe toabctl knows why?14:34
prometheanfiregood point14:34
prometheanfiretoabctl: ?14:34
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dhellmannthe ptl14:34
prometheanfireI know, also pinging him is all (for the good it does)14:36
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dhellmannah14:41
prometheanfireanyway, looks like the pip mirroring is finally done14:42
prometheanfireso should get those three releases in soon14:42
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toabctldhellmann, I guess you are talking about the global-requirements.txt copy in openstack/rpm-packaging ?14:50
prometheanfiretoabctl: doesn't look like that's been updated recently either14:51
dhellmanntoabctl : pymod2pkg is listed in the global-requirements.txt and upper-constraints.txt in openstack/requirements but only seems to be used by rpm-packaging and renderspec, neither of which seem like they are runtime requirements of openstack that need to have their dependencies synced14:51
dhellmannoh, rpm-packaging *isn't* in the projects.txt list14:51
dhellmannbut renderspec is14:51
* toabctl is missing the current context14:52
dhellmanntoabctl : the pymod2pkg release is going to be blocked unless you ask for a FFE to update the constraints list, and I'm trying to understand why that package is in that list at all14:53
dhellmannbecause I think having it there is (a) not needed and (b) causing you extra work14:54
toabctldhellmann, isn't it independent of openstack releases?14:54
dhellmannthat's only related to the cycle. We could release it but if the constraints list is not updated then it won't be used in tests.14:54
dhellmannand I think you can decouple all of that more completely14:54
sdakedhellmann hey totally off topic question - although I feel like you have interest in this area based upon previous work14:55
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sdakedhellmann how would you define the delta between diagnostics and telemetry14:55
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dhellmannsdake : I always thought telemetry was about data collection and diagnostics was about using it, but that might be too clear-cut of a line for some14:56
toabctldhellmann, hm. I don't see a reason why it is in the u-c list14:57
sdakedhellmann thanks - insightful as ever :)14:58
dhellmanntoabctl, prometheanfire : maybe the expedient thing is to just approve the update for now, and work on some patches in the next day or two to remove it from the constraints list?14:58
prometheanfiretoabctl: is it needed as a dependency (test or library) for anything?14:58
sdakedhellmann mind expanding on the "too clear cut?"14:58
dhellmannprometheanfire : it appears in the dependency list of renderspec, which is also not a runtime thing but is listed in projects.txt14:58
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toabctlyeah. renderspec is the only consumer afaik14:59
toabctlinside of openstack at least14:59
prometheanfireok15:00
dhellmannsdake : That may have been bad choice of words. I think sometimes people talk about "diagnostics" as a catch-all for both halves. Collecting telemetric data lets you do more than diagnose issues, though, so it can be useful to make a distinction.15:00
sdakeright on15:01
prometheanfiredoes that need to be co-installable with anything?  is renderspec used by anything that needs to be co-installable with the rest of openstack as well?15:01
dhellmanntoabctl , prometheanfire : I think we can/should remove renderspec from projects.txt, remove the requirements check jobs from renderspec, and then remove pymod2pkg from g-r and u-c15:01
sdakethanks dhellmann  - cheers15:01
dhellmannsdake : may I ask what prompted the question?15:02
sdakedhellmann sure - as i mentioned in December, I am working on technical matters in the istio community to bridge openstack and kubernetes15:02
sdakedhellmann istio has a telemetry solution15:02
sdakebut no diagnostics15:02
sdakesorting out how to explain to google (who has 20+ years experience in this area) that one is not the same as the o ther ;)15:03
prometheanfiredhellmann: that'd be fine, I just want to be sure that it's not needing to be co-installable (I don't think they do, but toabctl is the master there)15:03
toabctldhellmann, prometheanfire I have another problem with the msgpack-python to msgpack transition. eg. keystone requires msgpack and oslo.serialization but oslo.serialization requires msg-python. what happens in the venv is, that both are installed (one overwrites lib/python2.7/site-packages/msgpack ). this seems to work in the pip world but fais in the RPM world. there, python-msgpack Provides python-msgpack-python but the runtime check15:04
toabctl(from pkg_resource) fails because msgpack-python is not there. I have no idea how to solve that....15:04
dhellmannsdake: I look forward to seeing the results. I'd be interested in some tools in our own community that consumed what telemetry we have15:04
sdakedhellmann helps to understand other people's POVs in an experienced community such as OpenStack15:04
prometheanfiretoabctl: it sounds like oslo.serialization may not have merged the move/change or not released with it yet15:05
sdakedhellmann there is good integration (in Kolla atleast) with telemetry generators15:05
sdakedhellmann can't speak to other deployment solutions as I've not evaled them15:05
dhellmanntoabctl : I don't know how to solve it either, short of dropping one of what appears to be redundant dependencies15:05
sdakedhellmann I believe the ship has sailed on telemetry presentation systems - there are like 10+ of them15:06
dhellmannprometheanfire : oh, if there was supposed to be a move we probably need someone to write a patch for oslo.serialization15:06
dhellmannprometheanfire, toabctl , gcb : I would give that work an FFE if we can get it done as soon as possible15:06
prometheanfiredhellmann: ya, dirk was leading the charge there...15:07
dhellmannsdake : yeah, I'm more interested in things like making the events available to users or taking action based on them -- the qinling team seems to have done some work with that but I haven't had a chance to look closely at their code15:07
prometheanfirehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-requirements/+bug/174344515:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1743445 in oslo.serialization "Switch from msgpack-python to msgpack" [Undecided,New]15:07
toabctlthe change is already in but not in stable/queens15:07
dhellmannhow did the change make it into master but not queens?15:08
dhellmannwe should be able to release the backport if someone takes the time to propose it15:08
toabctldhellmann, done: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541302/15:08
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dhellmanntoabctl : that's it? just the package name changed?15:09
prometheanfiredhellmann: when did oslo branch? those merged on the 19th15:09
toabctldhellmann, yes.15:09
dhellmannprometheanfire : 8 jan it looks like15:09
prometheanfirehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/541304/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541302/ then15:10
dhellmannok, I approved the backport15:10
prometheanfiredhellmann: can you get the first one as well15:10
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prometheanfirethat'd be everything tracked in the bug15:10
dhellmannok. when those land, and zuul finds its way home, we can do some queens releases for those libraries15:11
prometheanfireyarp15:11
prometheanfireand FFEd of course15:11
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sdakedhellmann automated diags ftw :)15:12
sdakedhellmann if I can find time in the firehose i've go tgoing, I'll take a look at what qinling has done15:13
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: release oslo.serialization and oslo.privsep with updated msgpack dependency  https://review.openstack.org/54130515:16
dhellmanntoabctl , prometheanfire : ^^ will trigger release when we're ready15:16
toabctlthx15:17
dhellmanntoabctl , prometheanfire : should we go ahead and remove the package with the old name from the g-r list?15:19
prometheanfiredhellmann: ya, that's the next step, though I'd like dirk's ack15:19
toabctldhellmann, are we sure everything got updated to msgpack already?15:19
toabctldirk is back in thu I thihnk15:20
prometheanfireoh? he's out?15:20
prometheanfirehttp://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=msgpack-python&i=nope&files=.*requirements.*&repos=15:21
prometheanfireceilometer isn't a sync'd project15:22
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smcginnisThursday would be cutting things a bit late I think. Though it is already Tuesday.15:26
prometheanfireya, I'll make a removal patch after the bump comes in15:27
prometheanfireI do think we'll need a gr bump as well, but any re-releases that come from that can be handled after the branch15:28
prometheanfiresince the deps changed15:28
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mlavallesmcginnis: I have a newbie question. after Rc-1, can we have a rc-2?15:30
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smcginnismlavalle: Yes, if needed. It's best to try not to have multiple RCs, but if it ends up you need one, we can certainly do another before the final release date.15:30
mlavallesmcginnis: cool thanks15:31
prometheanfiresmcginnis: does that plan sound good?15:31
smcginnisprometheanfire: Yes, I think that's probably the best course of action we can take.15:32
prometheanfirek15:32
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mlavallesmcginnis: the reason I'm asking is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/537654. It is not in our RC1 now. It introduces bahavior change in one of our agents and we are late in the RC1 period. That is why I thought of targeting it for a RC2 and give ourselves time to play with it15:36
mlavallewhat do you think?15:37
* mlavalle wears his newbie hat15:37
smcginnismlavalle: Since the neutron RC1 was blocked, maybe get that in now and have it as part of RC1. Then if it's found to be problematic, revert it and cut an RC2?15:37
mlavallesmcginnis: perfect, sounds good to me :-)15:38
smcginnis;)15:38
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mlavalleslaweq: ^^^^. added to rc-115:39
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slaweqmlavalle: thx15:42
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dhellmannsmcginnis : it looks like the ironic-ui tag went through but then the job failed trying to create the branch http://logs.openstack.org/c3/c3ae8a1d87084bcee73e96e2f9e2d174ee610ed4/release-post/tag-releases/48a1f5a/15:58
dhellmannsmcginnis : I could run that by hand15:58
smcginnisdhellmann: Looked at that briefly last night. Tag and tarball are out there, but no branch.15:59
smcginnisdhellmann: Since that's the only thing - yeah, probably easiest to just manually fix it up.15:59
dhellmannok, let me do that15:59
smcginnisThanks15:59
smcginnisI saw the retry on the git fetch landed, so hopefully that's the last failure of that sort.16:00
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Add or update ocata release notes links  https://review.openstack.org/54052317:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Add release-type directives for pike  https://review.openstack.org/54054018:09
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: use repository-settings to get a default list of repo names  https://review.openstack.org/54052018:56
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: add a warning for repo used in release but not in repository-settings  https://review.openstack.org/54052118:56
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: only check release jobs if there are new releases to tag  https://review.openstack.org/54097518:56
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: make validate report more verbose  https://review.openstack.org/54101118:56
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: only validate releases that have not yet been tagged  https://review.openstack.org/54101218:56
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: add repo names to repository-settings for pike  https://review.openstack.org/54086418:56
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: add repo names to repository-settings for ocata  https://review.openstack.org/54086518:56
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: add repo names to repository-settings for queens  https://review.openstack.org/54052218:56
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: deprecate the use of highlights attached to a release  https://review.openstack.org/54086618:56
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: split validation of tarball-base into its own function  https://review.openstack.org/54101918:56
dhellmannboy it will be nice to land that series so I can stop rebasing it18:56
prometheanfirelol18:57
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: don't allow branching for tempest plugins  https://review.openstack.org/54140919:23
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: implicitly set type to tempest-plugin based on the name  https://review.openstack.org/54141019:23
dhellmannsmcginnis : regarding those tempest-plugin branches ^^19:23
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smcginnisGood idea.19:26
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/release-test master: Update reno for stable/quaint  https://review.openstack.org/54141219:27
smcginnisQuaint?19:27
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/release-test master: add constraints file to tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/54141419:29
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: release-test 0.12.0  https://review.openstack.org/54141519:31
dhellmannsmcginnis : queens was taken :-)19:32
dhellmannand isn't the idea of a queen sort of quaint?19:33
smcginnis:)19:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack/release-test master: add constraints file to tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/54141419:41
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/release-test master: Update reno for stable/quest  https://review.openstack.org/54142419:54
smcginnisdhellmann: Any idea if it's safe to approve anything yet? I was trying to follow along in infra for awhile but got busy with other things.19:56
dhellmannsmcginnis : I'm not sure. I've been testing with the release-test repo but I was doing things by hand to test rloo's u-c update patch so I didn't actually wait for any jobs to finish19:56
* smcginnis is getting a little worried about RC119:58
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dhellmannyeah19:58
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dhellmannsmcginnis : it doesn't look like we have any that are ready to be approved20:07
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dhellmannsmcginnis : we could try https://review.openstack.org/#/c/539862/ but I think we'll have to recheck this one20:07
smcginnisTony made a pass through the stable ones. I'm looking at that now.20:07
smcginnisdhellmann: I think you're right.20:08
smcginnisGot it back in the long check queue.20:08
dhellmannok. I need to run out for a bit. I'll be back in a couple of hours.20:08
smcginnisThanks, see you later.20:08
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible newton/14.2.14  https://review.openstack.org/54078020:38
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clarkbhello release team. The infra team is looking at scheduling downtimes to Gerrit to rename a few projects and also hopefully perform surgery on nova-specs so that it can replicate to github properly again. Looking at a calendar release is week of PTG. Would the week after PTG or the week after that work (or will this be an impact on the following release projects?)21:16
smcginnisclarkb: The cycle-trailing deadline is two weeks after the release.21:20
smcginnisclarkb: Would after March 16 work?21:20
smcginnisThen we have a few weeks before we should see much happen with the Rocky-1 milestone.21:21
clarkbsmcginnis: we tend to try to do these on a friday because they are quieter than the rest of the work week. Is the trailing release on the 15th?21:23
clarkbif so maybe we can plan for the 16th and then push it to the next week if cycle trailing doesn't get everything out?21:23
smcginnisclarkb: +1 - I like that plan. If we know we've gotten everything out of the way earlier then we can potentially start earlier, and we would at least have the weekend if things do go as planned.21:24
clarkbcool we'll aim for that then. Thanks21:29
smcginnisclarkb: Thanks for checking!21:29
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: ceilometer 8.1.3 (ocata)  https://review.openstack.org/53964422:22
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: aodh 4.0.3 (ocata)  https://review.openstack.org/53964322:24
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openstackgerritHanxi Liu proposed openstack/releases master: Release aodh 6.0.0 for Queens  https://review.openstack.org/54069823:07
openstackgerritHanxi Liu proposed openstack/releases master: Release panko 4.0.0 for Queens  https://review.openstack.org/54069923:08
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prometheanfireok, privsep is committed23:39
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: use repository-settings to get a default list of repo names  https://review.openstack.org/54052023:48
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: add a warning for repo used in release but not in repository-settings  https://review.openstack.org/54052123:48
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: only check release jobs if there are new releases to tag  https://review.openstack.org/54097523:48
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: make validate report more verbose  https://review.openstack.org/54101123:48
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: only validate releases that have not yet been tagged  https://review.openstack.org/54101223:48
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: add repo names to repository-settings for pike  https://review.openstack.org/54086423:48
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: add repo names to repository-settings for ocata  https://review.openstack.org/54086523:48
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: add repo names to repository-settings for queens  https://review.openstack.org/54052223:48
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: deprecate the use of highlights attached to a release  https://review.openstack.org/54086623:48
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: split validation of tarball-base into its own function  https://review.openstack.org/54101923:48
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: by default skip projects that have had tags applied  https://review.openstack.org/54149223:48
* dhellmann drops mic and walks off23:48
smcginnisThere goes that buffer.23:48
smcginnis:)23:48
dhellmannit's currently a competition between the storyboard repo and releases repo to see which chain ends up longer before it's approved23:49
prometheanfirelol23:49
dhellmannstoryboard is winning, 11 to 1023:50
dhellmann"winning"23:50
smcginnisWith 345 in the check queue, I don't think anyone is winning right now.23:50
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