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| EmilienM | fungi: I think there is only magnum and tripleo | 04:08 |
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| EmilienM | fungi: https://review.openstack.org/511463 and https://review.openstack.org/511295 | 04:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack/reno master: Add option to create release note from user-provided template https://review.openstack.org/511722 | 06:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack/reno master: Add option to create release note from user-provided template https://review.openstack.org/511722 | 06:53 |
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| mordred | ttx, smcginnis, dhellmann: I got a failed release patch with a key error about sha: http://logs.openstack.org/43/511643/1/check/gate-releases-tox-list-changes-ubuntu-xenial/99dfab8/console.html#_2017-10-12_23_49_27_627656 | 11:01 |
| mordred | is 'hash' 'sha' now? | 11:01 |
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| * mordred thinks it's a typo in the test ... | 11:05 | |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/releases master: Release 1.24.0 of shade https://review.openstack.org/511643 | 11:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/releases master: Change 'sha' to 'hash' in release notes check https://review.openstack.org/511807 | 11:05 |
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| sdague | dhellmann: did you ever get any resolution on launchpadlib being workable on python3? | 13:01 |
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| dhellmann | sdague : I haven't circled back around to look at it but at some point someone (you?) pointed out that there was a new package that could be installed. It's still on my list for this cycle as part of consolidating the release tools we actually use into the releases repo, which seemed like it would be easier to do after the zuul v3 rollout because I could define the jobs that need to use those tools in a way that clones | 13:03 |
| dhellmann | that repo without building a pip installable package | 13:03 |
| sdague | yeh, I was just trying to use it and there was a deep error in one of the included libs it looks like | 13:05 |
| sdague | like launchpadlib seems python3 clean now, but it's dependency stack is now | 13:05 |
| sdague | is not | 13:05 |
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| dhellmann | I think it was always lazr.restclient that was the issue | 13:05 |
| dhellmann | maybe it installs now but still doesn't work? | 13:05 |
| sdague | it wasn't that, let me run it again and see what fails | 13:06 |
| dhellmann | the only thing we're using that for these days is to leave comments on bugs. I wonder how hard it would be to just write that much of the client. | 13:06 |
| sdague | http://paste.openstack.org/show/623567/ | 13:07 |
| dhellmann | that's a new one | 13:07 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Interesting idea to just reimplement the functionality locally. | 13:09 |
| smcginnis | I would imagine we actually use a very small part of the code for our needs. | 13:10 |
| dhellmann | it depends on how complicated their auth process is | 13:10 |
| smcginnis | sdague: Looks like that's probably due to this: https://github.com/FriendCode/gittle/issues/49 | 13:10 |
| dhellmann | I'm not surprised a library last updated in 2009 does not work: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/oauth/1.0.1 | 13:12 |
| dhellmann | oh, those are some familiar names | 13:12 |
| mordred | dhellmann, smcginnis, ttx: if y'all get a sec, we need https://review.openstack.org/511643 (and https://review.openstack.org/511807) to fix an issue with nodepool image uploads on rackspace | 13:14 |
| dhellmann | what's the latest on the drive to move over to storyboard? | 13:14 |
| dhellmann | mordred : looking | 13:14 |
| mordred | dhellmann, smcginnis: also - yah - I'd imagine that just doing a quick python that uses oauth and implements just the bug bits you need would be not terribly hard | 13:15 |
| smcginnis | I'll defer to you on that on dhellmann. | 13:15 |
| dhellmann | mordred : I started thinking through it, and we'd have to update infra's secret management for whatever new thing we came up with, too | 13:15 |
| mordred | dhellmann: that's an interesting topic - because I kind of think that having the release team own and manage the secret data for the launchpad accountin the releases repo would be better than having infra own/manage it | 13:16 |
| dhellmann | I'd be fine with that, too, I guess, but that means it's still more work for us :-) | 13:17 |
| mordred | :) | 13:17 |
| ttx | +2 on shade release, will let our fearless PTL approve the Friday exception | 13:17 |
| dhellmann | I mean, do we want to patch over the lp thing being broken or do we want to move to an ecosystem where the tools are supported? | 13:17 |
| dhellmann | same. smcginnis ^^ | 13:18 |
| mordred | dhellmann: I'd say the second - but depending on the storyboard transition timeframe, the first still might be needed | 13:18 |
| dhellmann | wow, the oauth code is on code.google.com. | 13:18 |
| dhellmann | mordred : the only issue right now is that the tools need to be used under python 2. We have a couple of years before that's not supported upstream, and an undefined period where it will still be supported by the os vendor. I think that gives us enough time to finish a community goal to move to storyboard. | 13:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Change 'sha' to 'hash' in release notes check https://review.openstack.org/511807 | 13:21 |
| mordred | dhellmann: ++ | 13:21 |
| mordred | dhellmann: if we can't finish that community goal by the time python2 is unviable I thnk we have larger issues than launchpadlib | 13:22 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 13:22 |
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| dhellmann | who is likely to be interested in driving the storyboard move? | 13:33 |
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| smcginnis | Maybe this could be a driver to get that storyboard transition moving. | 13:36 |
| dhellmann | yeah. we need a person to champion it. | 13:37 |
| smcginnis | Wasn't there a group of folks doing that already? Or were they just on the implementation side? | 13:37 |
| dhellmann | this feels like a pretty easy win, so ideally we would find someone not already loaded down with a ton of other commitments and help by providing a guide for them | 13:37 |
| dhellmann | infra did some of it, and the storyboard team did. diablo_rojo was involved at one point, I think | 13:38 |
| dhellmann | but when I think of the people involved, I see them as really busy with other things and don't want to dump this on them | 13:38 |
| smcginnis | My feel is folks have been hearing about sb for awhile now, but unless they've gone out of their way to go to the session in Boston, they don't necessarily know what it is and why it's needed. | 13:38 |
| smcginnis | Or what it means to them. | 13:38 |
| dhellmann | it seems like a good opportunity for a new cross-project leader to emerge | 13:38 |
| dhellmann | yeah, education about the motivation will be a big part of the process | 13:39 |
| smcginnis | We need some "eductional" activities out there. | 13:39 |
| dhellmann | we should start soon so we're ready for next cycle | 13:39 |
| smcginnis | To get people to know what it is, why it exists, and why they should be thinking about moving to it. | 13:39 |
| smcginnis | And at some point, I think we're just going to have to make a unilateral decision for everyone that openstack projects are now moving to sb. | 13:40 |
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| dhellmann | I think there will be some work for each project team to do after the migration step, so a community goal seems like a good way to organize it | 13:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release 1.24.0 of shade https://review.openstack.org/511643 | 13:41 |
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| sdague | so, just as a question, what amount of historical data fidelity will remain after a shift to storyboard? Especially for closed bugs? | 14:00 |
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| mordred | sdague: I believe the migration things suck over closed bugs as well - one of the reasons storyboard story ids are so large is that we were accounting for migrated bugs being able to maintain their original bug id as well | 14:15 |
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| mordred | sdague: so that post transition we could update the bug links in reviews and whatnot to just point to the storyboard link instead of the launchpad link | 14:16 |
| mordred | obviously things that actually encode a launchpad url will still point to the launchpad url - but things like "Closes-Bug: #12345" should be able to render properly | 14:17 |
| openstack | bug 12345 in isdnutils (Ubuntu) "isdn does not work, fritz avm (pnp?)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12345 - Assigned to Matthias Klose (doko) | 14:17 |
| sdague | mordred: what about the action history? | 14:18 |
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| sdague | well, let me say this, in a couple of weeks of doing some data analysis on nova bugs I might have specific asks for important bits of the historical data that are useful to have | 14:19 |
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| fungi | sdague: that's a good question... the import script sucks over bug status per project for the autocreated task status on the imported story and slurps in comments and assignees (and therefore prepopulates accounts), but i believe it's missing some of the metadata for actions like entries when a bug's status was changed from new to triaged to in progress, et cetera. it does have a model for treating | 14:36 |
| fungi | similar state changes in sb as distinct from comments, so it's possible we can map those too if they're queryable in lp | 14:36 |
| fungi | as for a community champion to drive communication and tracking for the migration, diablo_rojo has been doing that for the past ~year now | 14:37 |
| fungi | current plan is to propose a migration as a rocky cycle goal at the goals session in sydney, last i heard | 14:38 |
| fungi | but there have been a lot of projects migrating ahead of that as well | 14:38 |
| fungi | basically the hope, aiui, is that we have some critical mass of teams who have already migrated by the time it becomes an official community goal | 14:39 |
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| sdague | fungi: sure, I just started doing some data analysis on our historic bug pile to figure out what things we could actually machine assist in sorting, as giant backlog of bugs is always a problem. And some of those intermediary transitions might be useful there. But I'm not sure yet. | 15:30 |
| sdague | I should know more pre summit, and be able to express what I think would be valuable to keep | 15:30 |
| fungi | sdague: yeah, so the good news is that storyboard exposes similar (perhaps better) granularity around that metadata, the less-good news is that the import process doesn't (yet) pull/map similar data from lp | 15:32 |
| fungi | as far as i've been able to tell | 15:32 |
| fungi | but the import script is idempotent and can be rerun multiple times for a project, so we can in theory tweak it and rerun it for already-imported projects too so we pull that in after the fact | 15:32 |
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| smcginnis | fungi: I think I found all the post-release failures. I just added them to line 58 here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-relmgt-tracking | 16:10 |
| fungi | smcginnis: thanks, i'll knock those out now | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Thanks | 16:12 |
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| fungi | smcginnis: did they all fail to build/upload to tarballs.o.o? | 16:14 |
| fungi | just making sure we don't have any which mostly worked | 16:14 |
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| fungi | i'll dig around in the failures ml archive just to make sure | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | fungi: At least one of the tripleo ones I looked at failed to upload to pypi. | 16:19 |
| fungi | yeah, three of thr four of them did, that much i knew | 16:19 |
| fungi | i don't see a failure logged to the ml for the magnum release | 16:19 |
| fungi | but maybe the tag-releases job for that change failed | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | I think so. I wasn't aware of it until someone mentioned the artifacts were not out there. | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | So not sure why there wasn't something emailed out. | 16:21 |
| fungi | doesn't look like magnum uploads to pypi anyway (name collision there) | 16:22 |
| fungi | granted we might be able to convince the current owner of magnum on pypi to hand it off. only a 0.1 release there from 2012 | 16:22 |
| fungi | but i guess the magnum team can follow that process if they're interested in that | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | Hmm, there's an openstack-magnum, but that hasn't been updated for some time. | 16:23 |
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| smcginnis | https://pypi.python.org/pypi/openstack-magnum/2.0.0 | 16:23 |
| fungi | ahh | 16:23 |
| fungi | well, anyway, i don't see a 4.1.4 tag for magnum here https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/magnum | 16:23 |
| fungi | but also i don't see a failure for the tag-releases job for that review | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | That other magnum package doesn't look active. Last update 2012. | 16:24 |
| fungi | i'll keep digging to find out what happened with it | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Thank. Sorry for the extra work. | 16:24 |
| fungi | np, i do this all day | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:24 |
| fungi | smcginnis: oh, we're blind | 16:25 |
| fungi | https://review.openstack.org/511463 was never approved. it's still pending review | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | Hah! Well that at least explains it. | 16:26 |
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| fungi | so anyway, the four relevant failures i see at http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/release-job-failures/2017-October/date.html are for openstack/puppet-tripleo, openstack/tripleo-common, openstack/tripleo-puppet-elements and openstack/nova-powervm | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | Yep, same that I was able to find. Should hopefully be it. | 16:29 |
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| fungi | all four failed their initial tarball jobs, so can be fully reenqueued (though nova-powervm-tarball may have uploaded a tarball to tarballs.o.o, it never uploaded to pypi so we'll just replace it with a fresh build) | 16:29 |
| fungi | nova-powervm-tarball hit a POST_FAILURE rather than a FAILURE, so likely was bitten by failing log uploads rather than package dependencies | 16:30 |
| fungi | yeah, file not found when i try to browse its logs | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Do you want me to just do the revert/revert dance? | 16:30 |
| fungi | nah, these will only take a sec | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | Cool, I think I've done that dance enough lately. :) | 16:31 |
| fungi | i just grab the relevant bits from the variables list, e.g. http://logs.openstack.org/96/96fd69bd30cf84ecd6311370a2b8c308a7fc4c17/release/puppet-tripleo-puppet-tarball/f850682/_zuul_ansible/vars.yaml | 16:31 |
| fungi | and plug them into a zuul enqueue-ref subcommand | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | Oh nice. | 16:32 |
| fungi | nova-powervm-tarball will take an extra minute since i'll have to dig those values out of zuul's debug log (because it failed to upload job logs) | 16:32 |
| fungi | and opening a compressed 1.7m line debug log takes a bit of time :/ | 16:42 |
| fungi | as does searching through it | 16:42 |
| fungi | okay, all four failed releases have been reenqueued into the release pipeline | 16:47 |
| smcginnis | Yikes, 1.7m of compressed text sounds scary. | 16:47 |
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| smcginnis | EmilienM: I think it would probably be best to make my stable:follows-policy wording change dependent on whatever you come up with for a deliverable focused tag. | 16:50 |
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| EmilienM | smcginnis: yeah, like I said to ttx, I'm probably going to draft something over the rainy weekend here :D | 16:58 |
| EmilienM | smcginnis: once I have something, i'll send it to governance and add you & ttx as reviewers and ping you on IRC. | 16:58 |
| smcginnis | EmilienM: Perfect, I'll plan on doing my follow on piece then next week. | 17:02 |
| smcginnis | EmilienM: Thanks for working on that. | 17:02 |
| EmilienM | my pleasure | 17:04 |
| dhellmann | fungi : it sounds like you need a wrapper script to take the URL to the vars file and call the zuul command for you | 17:05 |
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| smcginnis | dhellmann: You are the automation king. :) | 17:06 |
| dhellmann | laziness is the mother of invention | 17:06 |
| smcginnis | ;) | 17:06 |
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| fungi | dhellmann: well, all that changes with v3 so i've held off writing anything | 17:07 |
| dhellmann | that's no fun | 17:07 |
| * fungi has plenty of other automation to write without writing something he'll just have to rewrite in a few weeks | 17:07 | |
| fungi | (or even days) | 17:08 |
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| smcginnis | Let's hope days. | 17:11 |
| mnaser | hi release team, we just realized that we didnt cut a pike release for a puppet openstack module which was newly developed in the pike cycle (puppet-vitrage). would it be okay to have a late release for that module? we just realized that it was missed because it was one of the newer modules that was created in that cycle. | 17:12 |
| EmilienM | I would add that we would like this tag so we can continue to gate the module properly in stable/pike | 17:13 |
| smcginnis | I suppose that could be treated like a stable release, even though it is a new deliverable. | 17:14 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Any issue with that? ^ | 17:14 |
| smcginnis | mnaser, EmilienM: It's a Friday, so we don't want to release right now anyway. But if you want to propose a release for that, we can discuss there if there are any issues I'm not aware of with doing it that way. | 17:16 |
| EmilienM | good news! thanks | 17:16 |
| mnaser | smcginnis thank you | 17:20 |
| smcginnis | EmilienM, mnaser: What would be the drawback of just starting with Queens? | 17:23 |
| EmilienM | smcginnis: not being able to test puppet-vitrage on pike | 17:24 |
| EmilienM | smcginnis: and maybe introduce regressions in the module | 17:24 |
| EmilienM | smcginnis: make our users angry | 17:24 |
| mnaser | given that it was tested in the pike cycle, we'd have to drop CI for it in stable/pike if we decide to release it in queens, so yeah | 17:24 |
| EmilienM | (by users, here I meant the users of puppet-vitrage, which probably are more operators) | 17:24 |
| smcginnis | EmilienM, mnaser: Works for me. Just had to ask the question. ;) | 17:25 |
| EmilienM | sure | 17:25 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : if the module was never released as part of pike, I think it's a bit odd to add it now. We set a deadline for new deliverables each cycle. If it's being added to an existing deliverable that might be a different case, though? | 17:29 |
| dhellmann | one alternative is to tag it as independent this cycle | 17:29 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Ah, so one release as independent, then pick it up in Queens along with the rest of the puppet deliverables? That could work. | 17:34 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 17:35 |
| dhellmann | it can still have the stable branch, etc. | 17:35 |
| smcginnis | EmilienM, mnaser: Does that make sense? ^ | 17:35 |
| mnaser | its okay with me, thoughts EmilienM ? | 17:36 |
| * smcginnis has to step away for a bit... | 17:36 | |
| EmilienM | it's ok for me | 17:38 |
| EmilienM | as long as we can create a stable/pike branch | 17:38 |
| EmilienM | and run in CI | 17:38 |
| EmilienM | so we avoid regressions when deploying with Pike codebase. I'm happy then | 17:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed openstack/releases master: Release puppet-vitrage for Pike https://review.openstack.org/511931 | 17:40 |
| mnaser | ^ release bits havent merged yet but im not yet confident in my release-fu so just leaving it up for review in advance | 17:41 |
| dhellmann | yeah, you can have the branch regardless of the release model | 17:41 |
| dhellmann | mnaser : for an independent release, you'll need to move that file to the deliverables/_independent directory. The result won't show up on the pike release series page, but it will be visible as an independent release | 17:42 |
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| dhellmann | you could also go ahead and create a file for queens that includes the top bits but no releases section | 17:42 |
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| mnaser | dhellmann thats a good idea so we have an extra reminder | 17:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed openstack/releases master: Release puppet-vitrage for Pike https://review.openstack.org/511931 | 17:46 |
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| EmilienM | fungi: thanks for the tarballs :D I got them now | 18:15 |
| EmilienM | smcginnis: ^ fyi (ty as well) | 18:15 |
| fungi | yw! | 18:18 |
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| smcginnis | All fungi's credit. | 18:23 |
| fungi | shhhh! the fewer things i take credit for, the less often people will ask me for help ;) | 18:25 |
| smcginnis | Oh, very good point. You're even smarter than I already thought you were. :D | 18:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed openstack/releases master: Release puppet-vitrage for Pike https://review.openstack.org/511931 | 18:34 |
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| smcginnis | dhellmann: Have a moment for some questions? | 19:23 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : I'm here if you're still around | 19:41 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Hey! I may have some other ideas, but I was getting hung up on how to support RST inside the yaml deliverable files. | 19:44 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: I think it was partly a formatting issue on my end. | 19:44 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: I tweaked what I had in there and it seems to be OK now. | 19:44 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : the reno docs have some good examples | 19:46 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : https://docs.openstack.org/reno/latest/user/usage.html#note-file-syntax | 19:46 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: The other fallback idea I was thinking of was to have a reno style setup under deliverables/queens with either just one file, or a file per $PROJECT.yaml file that we could just leverage some of the reno code to process, but I think I've got it now. | 19:46 |
| smcginnis | Or at least closer to the right path. | 19:46 |
| smcginnis | Thanks, that helps! | 19:46 |
| smcginnis | I just had an extra space after a bullet list, so validate didn't like it. | 19:47 |
| smcginnis | s/space/blank line/ | 19:47 |
| dhellmann | oh, hmm, using reno is an interesting idea | 19:47 |
| dhellmann | though it relies on branches and we don't have branches | 19:47 |
| dhellmann | so it's probably simpler to just build something small to render the data directly | 19:48 |
| smcginnis | That's what I'm currently thinking. | 19:48 |
| dhellmann | https://pypi.python.org/pypi/sphinxcontrib.datatemplates might be useful | 19:48 |
| smcginnis | I think I can tie that into the docs job easily. | 19:48 |
| dhellmann | I don't remember if the datatemplates plugin knows how to pull data from more than one source, but we could also have separate calls for each project on the page that does the rendering | 19:51 |
| dhellmann | that would let us control the ordering and grouping and whatnot | 19:51 |
| smcginnis | Good tip. | 19:53 |
| dhellmann | we could also teach it to read multiple files :-) | 19:54 |
| smcginnis | I think one way or another I will need to have some sort of sphinx extension for this. | 19:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/releases master: Add keystone deadlines to queens schedule https://review.openstack.org/509835 | 20:09 |
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