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tonybdims: :)00:06
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openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/release-tools master: Fix abandoning reviews in eol_branch  https://review.openstack.org/50806706:52
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openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/release-tools master: Fix abandoning reviews in eol_branch  https://review.openstack.org/50806708:38
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/releases master: Add tooz release for stable/newton  https://review.openstack.org/50812111:28
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openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible pike/16.0.1  https://review.openstack.org/50813412:30
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openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible pike/16.0.1  https://review.openstack.org/50813412:32
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openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible ocata/15.1.9  https://review.openstack.org/50814612:48
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openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible pike/16.0.1  https://review.openstack.org/50813413:49
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smcginnisttx, dhellmann, tonyb, dims, any others - countdown email draft: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-email-r2113:54
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smcginnisLet me know if there's any feedback or add whatever you want there. I will send out later today.13:54
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dimssmcginnis : let's invite the liaisons to the release team meeting?13:56
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smcginnisdims: Sure! You want to add something there?13:58
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evrardjpforgive me my noobness, but how does this works https://github.com/openstack/releases/#using-new-release-command with the multiple repositories explained in the documentation?13:58
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dimssmcginnis : on it13:58
smcginnisdims: Thanks!13:58
smcginnisevrardjp: dhellmann may be able to have better details, but I think you just run it for each repo.13:59
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evrardjpthat could simplify our work, we could just checkout the proper sha we are testing for a stable release, and issue the tox command. Seems easy.14:00
dimssmcginnis : done14:00
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evrardjplet's wait what dhellmann says then! :P14:00
smcginnisdims: Thank you sir.14:01
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smcginnisevrardjp: Oh, you mean use some of this command's logic to automate stable testing?14:01
evrardjpwell no, we have enough stability already :p14:02
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evrardjpbut we are using some kind of logic to do stable testing that could be mapped to this14:03
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dhellmanno/14:23
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dhellmannsmcginnis : email draft looks good14:25
smcginnisdhellmann: Thanks!14:25
dhellmannevrardjp : the new-release command will check out the repo for you. It assumes you want to release HEAD. So you just tell it the repo and whether the release is a feature update, a bug fix, etc. and it computes the next version number and figures out the sha14:25
evrardjpwell I don't want head, I want a sha, that's the part :p14:26
dhellmannevrardjp : I'm not sure what your comments about stable testing mean14:26
dhellmannif you want a specific sha then you'll be better off editing the file by hand14:27
dhellmannevrardjp : maybe if you explain in more detail what you are trying to do I can try to help point out any tools we have that can help14:27
evrardjpwell we do already a file that contains our role shas, and that's what we consider part of our stable process14:27
evrardjprole == repositories14:27
evrardjpand we bump them on a regular basis, so we are controlling the stability that way14:28
evrardjpright now we have a script that consumes this input, and generates the yml for the release repo14:28
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dhellmannok14:29
evrardjpI thought that we could do two birds one stone, and remove this script, by simplying going across this file and calling the new_release with the appropriate sha14:29
dhellmannah14:29
dhellmannit doesn't work that way today, but it could be made to14:29
dhellmannyou could add a --sha option to the command and if that is set bypass the work of figuring out the sha for head14:30
dhellmannalthough expressing that on the command line for a multi-part deliverable would be complex14:30
evrardjplet me check the new_release script and propose something then.14:30
dhellmannare all of your deliverables built from a single repo?14:31
evrardjpyeah, I have to compare approach basically14:31
evrardjpfor now yes.14:31
evrardjpI don't expect a change soon14:31
dhellmannok, so a single option would work for your case. I'm not sure if we want to make it complex enough to deal with the multi-project case14:31
dhellmannmaybe make --sha repeatable and have the syntax be $repo:$sha14:32
dhellmannfor the value14:32
dhellmannso you'd say --sha repo1:sha1 --sha repo2:sha214:32
evrardjpoh I misunderstood your question14:32
evrardjpthe deliverable info is from a single repo, while the deliverable itself is multiple repos14:32
evrardjpok I understand better14:33
evrardjpthat sounds more complex than what I have right now. Let's keep it that way.14:35
evrardjpthanks for the explanation nonetheless!14:35
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jeblairhi release folks!  we're about to shut down zuul v2 now.  it would be really good to avoid release activity for a bit.14:38
jeblairdhellmann, dims, fungi, ttx, smcginnis: ^14:38
dimsjeblair : +++++++14:38
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fungifor realz this time!14:39
fungi;)14:39
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smcginnisjeblair: Thanks. And good luck! :)14:41
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: The infra team is now taking Zuul v2 offline and bringing Zuul v3 online. Please see https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/zuulv3.html for more information, and ask us in #openstack-infra if you have any questions.14:43
evrardjpgood luck jeblair!14:43
jeblairthanks :)14:44
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dhellmannevrardjp : np. If you think of a less complex solution, we can talk again.14:51
dhellmannjeblair : ack14:51
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EmilienMare we still in release freeze?14:59
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EmilienMif no, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507286/15:01
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smcginnisEmilienM: Yeah, they're hoping to wrap up the zuul upgrade today.15:05
smcginnisEmilienM: Hopefully just a little longer.15:05
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EmilienMsmcginnis: no worries, I was just wondering :D15:07
* EmilienM can wait15:07
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smcginnisjeblair: Do we have an "all clear" for releases now? Or still some trailing things?15:26
jeblairsmcginnis: not yet, we're currently "between zuuls"15:27
evrardjpIn the meantime, could someone can help me on telling me what I am doing wrong on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508134/ ?15:27
smcginnisjeblair: OK, gotcha.15:27
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smcginnisevrardjp: That's... odd.15:30
dhellmannlooking15:30
evrardjpthe move to the first part was because of my tooling that tails the content, so moving the content manually at beginning helps me in the future. YAML should be not ordered so it should be alright?15:31
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evrardjpfew minutes after I had a new release for another branch, for the same reason, but I doubt that's the issue15:31
smcginnisevrardjp: Maybe try moving the "version" line to the end? I think I've seen some oddness there, though haven't had time to take a look at why that would even matter.15:32
evrardjpyeah I will try on my machine.15:36
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dhellmannevrardjp : it looks like those old versions have new entries for repositories that were not present before? or that do not have the tag for some reason?15:40
dhellmannI have a patch to expand the warning message, stand by15:40
evrardjpoh...15:41
evrardjplet me double check15:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible pike/16.0.1  https://review.openstack.org/50813415:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: report the repository when reporting a new version found  https://review.openstack.org/50820415:41
dhellmannevrardjp : look for "Found new release" messages in the validation job output15:42
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dhellmannthat new patch that I just tucked under yours will expand the message to include the repository name15:42
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evrardjpdouble checked what I added is the same15:44
evrardjpwell let me double check the whole thing15:45
evrardjpthanks dhellmann!15:45
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evrardjpoh sad zuul is sad15:51
smcginnisWhere is the console output? :/15:52
smcginnisVery sad.15:52
evrardjpI checked on ara, the issue I found was not in the code, maybe wait a little?15:52
smcginnisYeah, maybe we need to wait for the dust to settle.15:52
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evrardjpsmcginnis: fyi: http://logs.openstack.org/04/508204/1/check/legacy-releases-tox-validate/3c96f1a/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-09-28_15_44_57_49978915:53
evrardjpis not very friendly there15:53
evrardjptherefore*15:53
evrardjphttp://logs.openstack.org/04/508204/1/check/legacy-releases-tox-validate/3c96f1a/ara/ is easier clicked15:53
evrardjpwell I guess you knew, but I am such a helper :p15:54
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smcginnis:)15:55
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evrardjpdhellmann: "evrardjp : it looks like those old versions have new entries for repositories that were not present before? or that do not have the tag for some reason?" Could you clarify that? It's the key to my understanding until I read the code17:31
evrardjpI checked, basically with your output all the repos are borking.17:31
evrardjpI doubled check they have previous tags17:31
evrardjpoh no I found one. Thanks!17:34
evrardjpgrep is the deal.17:34
evrardjpwell, I meant grep and dhellmann are !17:36
dhellmannhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/622186/ shows 2 surprising items attached to openstack-ansible-security for the old beta releases17:37
dhellmannthe rest of those lines are talking about the new version being tagged, and those should be fine17:37
dhellmannbbiab17:38
evrardjpdhellmann: yes that's exactly what I have seen17:40
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evrardjpyou're confirming17:40
openstackgerritJay Bryant proposed openstack/releases master: Release os-brick 1.15.3  https://review.openstack.org/50825217:40
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openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible pike/16.0.1  https://review.openstack.org/50813417:43
openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible ocata/15.1.9  https://review.openstack.org/50814617:46
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evrardjpdhellmann: may I borrow your brain again? Pike is handled for me, but during ocata cycle, openstack-ansible-security was renamed ansible-hardening. To not break stuff and features, we need to bring _in ocata and downwards_ ansible-hardening into the releases, potentially breaking the release validation process. Should we separate deliverables of hardening, due to the fact they are something we merely consume? Or do you hav18:01
evrardjpe another idea?18:01
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evrardjpI guess I could technically rename them all, but it doesn't make sense per se, and an old release should be an old release, we shouldn't touch it.18:11
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evrardjpand the other way around would be to completely not consider this as part of our releases in the future18:15
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dhellmannevrardjp : I'm not entirely sure I understand what you mean.18:19
evrardjpsorry for my poor english18:19
dhellmannwas the openstack-ansible-security repository renamed? or the deliverable? (is that the same thing)?18:20
evrardjpyes18:20
evrardjprenamed18:20
dhellmannno, no, your english is fine, it's the situation I don't understand :-)18:20
evrardjpjust right before releasing Pike, to make things simpler.18:20
evrardjpso everything that we still release now need to be moved to that18:20
dhellmannso you want to add ansible-hardening to new releases for the ocata series?18:21
evrardjpyes18:21
evrardjpand newton18:21
evrardjpbut I don't know how to deal with renamed repositories18:21
dhellmannand I guess that really replaces the old name18:21
dhellmannok18:21
dhellmannthat should be fine18:21
dhellmannjust leave all of the old data as it is, and add the new repo to the new releases18:21
evrardjpbut that's what I did18:21
dhellmannoh, is that the patch that was failing validation?18:22
evrardjpyes18:22
evrardjpwell18:22
evrardjpthat patch was for pike, but it's the same cause18:23
dhellmannah18:23
evrardjpPike itself should never have been released with that, so I am on the verge of removing it OR renaming it for new ones18:23
evrardjpdepending on what you'll propose18:23
dhellmannwell, since the repository was renamed, it would make sense to update the values in the old releases18:23
evrardjpmmm18:24
dhellmannwas the new repository tagged for those releases?18:24
evrardjpthat's where I beg to differ, a release itself was, at that time, openstack-ansible-security, nt ansible-hardening18:24
evrardjpyes18:24
evrardjptechnically it's fine I think18:24
evrardjpit's more conceptually that I wonder if we should do that18:25
dhellmannpart of the point of having the history in the releases repo is to help someone reproduce that release, but if the repository was renamed then they'll need the new name anyway18:25
evrardjpI think the old repo still exists18:25
evrardjpthe new repo was just a copy of the old one18:25
dhellmannah18:26
evrardjpand we renamed all the references18:26
evrardjpbut even, when you think about it, it's not only about the code itself18:26
dhellmannmaybe that explains why the validation is failing. it can check out the old repository but it does not find the tags.18:26
evrardjpit's about how we can consume it18:26
evrardjpoh well fun stuff, it's even more a mess than that.18:27
dhellmannso are you saying that the old release info is no longer accurate somehow?18:28
evrardjpso the old releases are fine18:28
evrardjpthey match exactly the code and their repositories18:29
dhellmannok18:29
evrardjpso I propose to not touch that18:29
evrardjp:D18:29
dhellmann+118:29
evrardjpapparently the new one was copied, but we continue to release the old ones, with no changes, while the new one got new stuff, but skipped a few tags. Which makes it funier.18:29
dhellmannhrm18:30
evrardjp(sorry I am discovering this at the same time as you, I should have been more prepared of friendly gifts like that!)18:30
dhellmannwell, smcginnis is in charge of handing out demerits this cycle, so no worries. just don't tell him. :-)18:30
evrardjpwhich makes sense, we never had "hardening" as a release for Ocata, so we kept tagging "security"18:31
dhellmannsure18:31
evrardjpeverything makes sense when you account the life of these interdependent projects, but releasing them together is a nightmare, I guess you know it :p18:32
dhellmannit seems like the right course of action is to simply use the new repository for new releases from that series18:32
evrardjpyes, but that blocks too18:32
evrardjplet me show you18:32
dhellmannyes, this is why we encourage project teams to consider not bundling so many repositories into a single release18:32
dhellmannsorry, into a single deliverable18:32
dhellmanntag them independently18:33
evrardjpmakes sense.18:33
evrardjpthat's what I think we should do with this special case18:33
evrardjpI think you just confirmed my feeling18:33
evrardjpthis one had a different "lifecycle" so it deserves a different relase18:33
evrardjpI will not include "hardening" in the future releases, and this way the old ones are fine, and the new ones should be ok18:34
evrardjpthanks for your expertise!18:34
evrardjpagain18:34
dhellmannI guess we have to consider whether it makes sense to add a deliverable to an old series, though. We don't usually do that.18:34
dhellmannwhat I would suggest is adding the repo to new releases of the existing deliverable on old series, and splitting the deliverable up into a bunch of separate things for queens.18:35
* smcginnis chuckles at the scrollback18:35
evrardjpwell technically you don't pull new dependencies during the life of the project. so it should never happen18:35
evrardjpI am not glad to be a special case18:35
dhellmanndoes the hardening repository have an ocata branch?18:36
evrardjpit does18:36
dhellmannok18:37
dhellmannwe might want to release from that under the _independent directory to avoid adding new things to the official ocata release18:38
dhellmannthis is usually the sort of question that ttx has a good feel for, so we should get him to weigh in18:38
dhellmannI think our options are:18:38
dhellmann1. add the new repo to the next ocata release of the existing deliverable18:39
dhellmann2. define a new ocata deliverable for the new repo18:39
dhellmann3. define a new independent deliverable for the ocata releases from that repo18:39
dhellmannand I think I would go with 1 or 318:39
evrardjp(to make things simpler, you can multiply by 2, with newton...)18:39
evrardjpI'd go for 318:40
dhellmannsure, we would take the same approach18:40
smcginnisAs long as the stable branches exist, should be able to do either one easily.18:40
evrardjpbut I am glad we talked18:40
dhellmannsmcginnis : yeah, the question is really about how we define "the ocata openstack release"18:40
dhellmannwe have a deadline for adding new deliverables to it (milestone 2, irrc)18:41
evrardjpyeah because https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508146/2/deliverables/ocata/openstack-ansible.yaml isn't enough for 1)18:41
evrardjpsorry for the wall of text there, just for one repo :p18:41
smcginnisevrardjp: Nah, good to figure this out.18:41
smcginnisdhellmann: That's a good point. May be a good reason to go with _independent.18:42
dhellmannyeah18:42
evrardjplet me check about the impact of that, and how I should change things. But you helped tremendously18:43
evrardjpthanks dhellmann and smcginnis!18:49
dhellmannevrardjp : any time!18:50
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/reno master: update ref search logic for zuulv3 CI layout  https://review.openstack.org/50832421:53
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/reno master: update ref search logic for zuulv3 CI layout  https://review.openstack.org/50832421:55
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases master: pike: release python-novaclient 9.1.1  https://review.openstack.org/50833122:12
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dhellmannstephenfin, ttx, dims: we could use one more +2 on the reno patch https://review.openstack.org/508324 and then we'll want to cut a release to unblock those gate jobs22:40
dhellmannI will self-merge tomorrow if someone hasn't beaten me to it22:40
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases master: newton: release python-novaclient 6.0.2  https://review.openstack.org/50834322:44
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