| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/releases master: Release shade 1.21.0 https://review.openstack.org/466946 | 00:03 |
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| mordred | dhellmann, dims, ttx: ^^ we'd like to release that tomorrow morning when clarkb and I can watch nodepool restart to make sure it's all good - that patch replaces neutroncliet with REST calls ... and while it's very well tested, still - that's a biggie | 00:04 |
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| mordred | I'll come back in and ping folks in the morning when clarkb is up | 00:04 |
| mordred | (there's also a bugfix needed for a networking thing with citycloud) | 00:04 |
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| dims | mordred : ack, will have to leave a note for ttx to that effect, will do that if you haven't done that already | 00:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/releases master: Release paunch 1.1.0 https://review.openstack.org/467004 | 04:51 |
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| ttx | mordred: ok, just let us know when ready | 07:02 |
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| gcb | ttx: could you please approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467001/ ? it's fixing gate failure | 08:04 |
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| ttx | gcb: on it | 08:16 |
| ttx | gcb: approved | 08:16 |
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| gcb | ttx: thanks | 08:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Saad Zaher proposed openstack/releases master: Release freezerclient 1.3.1 for ocata https://review.openstack.org/466445 | 10:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alan Pevec proposed openstack/releases master: Release oslo.i18n 3.15.3 https://review.openstack.org/465488 | 10:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Saad Zaher proposed openstack/releases master: Release Freezer 4.0.1 for ocata https://review.openstack.org/466443 | 10:50 |
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| ttx | dhellmann, dims: o/ | 13:07 |
| ttx | dhellmann, dims: re: Denver PTG I was thinking, since we are heading toward an inter-project vs. project-centric week split... I see little value in us having a "team room". We could have a designated room (together with other support teams) more as a "help room" to answer questions from other projects in the first part of the week, and then meet at a designated roundtable for the "team-centric" | 13:10 |
| ttx | meetup in the second part of the week | 13:10 |
| ttx | feels like a more productive use of our time | 13:11 |
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| ttx | let me know what you think | 13:12 |
| dims | ttx : works for me. we may actually get some things done earlier if the "help" requests are low :) so we can go hang out with other projects | 13:21 |
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| ttx | dims: yeah, could be more of a helpdesk duty thing as well: have one member present at all times to answer questions, while the others can engage in other rooms | 13:43 |
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| dhellmann | ttx, dims: o/ | 14:38 |
| dhellmann | ttx: I think we may need to get a group together to talk about implementing the changes to the requirements sync thing. Where do you see that fitting into the new organization? | 14:39 |
| ttx | dhellmann: that would be a "theme" rather than a "team", so in a room Monday/Tue | 14:41 |
| dhellmann | ok | 14:42 |
| ttx | dhellmann: ICYMI there is a reno thread on the ML | 14:42 |
| dhellmann | ok, I'll look for that | 14:42 |
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| apevec | dhellmann, ttx - I've +2 but since it's not stable release, please review https://review.openstack.org/465488 | 16:19 |
| dhellmann | apevec : looking now | 16:19 |
| dims | clarkb : around? mordred asked us to hold https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466946/ for you | 16:19 |
| dhellmann | apevec, jd_, gcb: clearly we need to improve the testing in oslo.i18n. we should have caught that removing babel would break things. | 16:20 |
| clarkb | dims: I am, though mordred mentioend some new bug that had a fix, I don't think ^ includes it based on timestamps | 16:20 |
| clarkb | mordred: ^ can you clarify | 16:20 |
| dhellmann | apevec : approved | 16:20 |
| apevec | dhellmann, yeah, not sure how it slipped | 16:20 |
| apevec | thanks! | 16:20 |
| dhellmann | ttx: do you want to take a look at the validate change in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466829? | 16:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release paunch 1.1.0 https://review.openstack.org/467004 | 16:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release oslo.i18n 3.15.3 https://review.openstack.org/465488 | 16:26 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: looking | 16:28 |
| mordred | clarkb, dhellmann: yes - please hold off another sec - I'm also now on a phone call - will be ready to rock and roll in one hour -sorry | 16:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release Freezer 4.0.1 for ocata https://review.openstack.org/466443 | 16:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release freezerclient 1.3.1 for ocata https://review.openstack.org/466445 | 16:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: fix stable branch membership detection https://review.openstack.org/466829 | 16:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Create stable/ocata for monasca-transform https://review.openstack.org/466224 | 16:37 |
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| amoralej | ping dhellmann, there was a problem building the tarball for puppet-nova 9.5.1, puppet command not found, iirc | 17:20 |
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| kfox1111 | dims: ping | 18:02 |
| dims | kfox1111 : pong | 18:03 |
| kfox1111 | hey. back from the meeting. | 18:03 |
| kfox1111 | so... containers. | 18:03 |
| kfox1111 | for k8s/etcd containers, they keep them up to date by releasing often and it being a simple go binary basically. | 18:04 |
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| kfox1111 | but I think its largely the second part. | 18:04 |
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| kfox1111 | for openstack though, we have a lot more deps all rolled into the container. | 18:04 |
| kfox1111 | so deps may end up changing much more frequently then the actual openstack code. | 18:05 |
| dims | kfox1111 : you can update what you need to update (requirements.txt?) in your stable branch and request a release with a SHA | 18:05 |
| dims | kfox1111 : same process as stable releases | 18:05 |
| kfox1111 | the problem with that, is it sends a message to folks "you need to rebuild your containers as there is a new version of kolla-nova-compute", say... | 18:06 |
| kfox1111 | but depending on when they last built their container set, they may not need to do that. | 18:06 |
| kfox1111 | I guess what I'm saying is, I don't think updating the tar/pip releases we do is a good mechanism to building fresh containers. | 18:08 |
| kfox1111 | as the containers need to change at a rate much more frequent then tar/pip. | 18:08 |
| dims | kfox1111 : we have to start somewhere, let's start here | 18:08 |
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| dims | kfox1111 : you can publish release notes that your consumers can check what to update and what they dont have to | 18:09 |
| kfox1111 | why though? we can start with a place closer to the end goal with the same amount of effort? | 18:09 |
| dims | kfox1111 : not gonna argue, i think i can drive consensus on this and i dont' want to do more than that. | 18:09 |
| kfox1111 | I'm trying to make it much more automated then that. if a person has to look at a release note once a day, then they wont. and important stuff might slip through. | 18:09 |
| kfox1111 | "system noise" | 18:09 |
| dims | not going to optimize more than this kfox1111 | 18:10 |
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| kfox1111 | ok. I understand your stance. thanks. | 18:10 |
| kfox1111 | I'll take it back to kolla and discus. | 18:11 |
| kfox1111 | we'll see if that is enough for the health of the project or decide if we have to go do something else to work around the issue. | 18:11 |
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| dims | kfox1111 : ack, thanks | 18:12 |
| dims | kfox1111 : you had questions about the version numbers, you can check with dhellmann about that (and ttx) | 18:13 |
| kfox1111 | revision numbers? | 18:15 |
| kfox1111 | so, kolla's source doesn't change that often. but deps change much more frequently. so we'd like to use revision numbers on the containers. | 18:15 |
| kfox1111 | 4.0.0-1, 4.0.0-2, etc. | 18:15 |
| kfox1111 | that shows the user, the code is all the same, some dependency changed. so it should behave the same, but have updates. | 18:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Saad Zaher proposed openstack/releases master: Release Freezer 3.0.1 for stable/newton https://review.openstack.org/467351 | 18:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Saad Zaher proposed openstack/releases master: Release freezer-web-ui 3.0.1 for newton https://review.openstack.org/467352 | 18:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Saad Zaher proposed openstack/releases master: Release Freezer 3.0.1 for newton https://review.openstack.org/467351 | 18:27 |
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| dhellmann | amoralej|off : check this thread for details: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/117188.html | 18:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: add puppet-release-jobs as a supported release job https://review.openstack.org/467373 | 20:06 |
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