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| openstackgerrit | Sridhar Ramaswamy proposed openstack/releases: Release tacker 0.3.1 (mitaka) https://review.openstack.org/326185 | 00:15 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: +2ed | 07:33 |
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| odyssey4me | dhellmann when you're in and have a moment, I'd like to understand the implications related to your comments in https://review.openstack.org/325252 - I'd like to figure out whether we actually mean to have them as separate deliverables, or whether they should actually be marked as a single deliverable - I now see the pattern with neutron/neutron-lbaas/etc | 12:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/releases: Initial (2.0.0) stable/mitaka release for networking-onos https://review.openstack.org/326448 | 13:02 |
| EmilienM | ttx, dhellmann: hi! do you know if https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323027/ is going to land by today's meeting (or maybe before?) - what do we need to wait? | 13:09 |
| patchbot | EmilienM: patch 323027 - governance - Update Puppet OpenStack release tags | 13:09 |
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| dhellmann | EmilienM : governance patches that don't need a vote are supposed to wait 1 week in case anyone has an objection. I think that means ttx can merge your change today, and we can go ahead with the release. | 14:20 |
| dhellmann | odyssey4me | 14:20 |
| dhellmann | oops | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | dhellmann: ack, thx | 14:21 |
| dhellmann | odyssey4me : I have a few minutes now. You need to decide if you think you'll ever want to release individual playbooks separately, or whether you're comfortable always releasing them together, then set up the "deliverable" definition accordingly. | 14:21 |
| dhellmann | ttx: maybe we should reconsider the rule, for tags managed by external teams. I can't imagine most of the tc having an opinion about the release or vmt tags unless they're on those teams anyway. Another option would be to move the release tags to the deliverable files in the releases repo, but I don't know where we would put tags for stable or vmt teams. Same place? | 14:23 |
| odyssey4me | dhellmann ok, so the only effect of whether they're different deliverables or not relates specifically to how we release | 14:26 |
| dhellmann | right | 14:26 |
| dhellmann | a deliverable is always released together, because you have to have all of the parts for it to work | 14:27 |
| odyssey4me | dhellmann in this case it may be useful for us to curate new role repositories as a deliverable, then once they join the integrated build they become part of the same deliverable | 14:27 |
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| odyssey4me | ok, it seems to me then that those roles should be part of the same deliverable, so I need to patch the governance repo | 14:27 |
| dhellmann | you can do that. it'll complicate release scheduling because the validation code wants the governance repo and releases repo to match, but as long as you're aware of the delay involved in changing the governance repo it's fine | 14:28 |
| odyssey4me | dhellmann yeah, the N-1 release doesn't produce any artifacts - for us it's primarily a scheduling milestone so we're in no rush to actually process the release | 14:29 |
| odyssey4me | it's simply just a marker | 14:29 |
| dhellmann | odyssey4me : EmilienM was just asking a similar question about the delay in changing tags. I'm going to propose that we cut the delay for some of those sorts of changes | 14:29 |
| dhellmann | ok, cool | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | dhellmann: thx a lot | 14:29 |
| dhellmann | ttx: we could say that "non-substantive" changes like splitting or merging a deliverable without any other changes to tags, or "substantive" changes like adding or removing tags managed by a team other than the TC, only need the relevant team lead to +1 to allow the change. If a "non-substantive" change like a deliverable split results in tags being applied to something they shouldn't (as the recent neutron case) that's no worse than | 14:32 |
| dhellmann | before (the tags would have been applied already) and can be updated in a follow-up patch. | 14:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: maintain team ownership info in the deliverable files https://review.openstack.org/326151 | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for newton deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326522 | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for mitaka deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326523 | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for liberty deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326524 | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for kilo deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326525 | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for juno deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326526 | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for icehouse deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326527 | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for havana deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326528 | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for grizzly deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326529 | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for folsom deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326530 | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for essex deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326531 | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for diablo deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326532 | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for remaining deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326533 | 14:48 |
| dhellmann | dims, ttx: I had to split up my previous patch because the list-changes job was taking too long | 14:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed openstack/releases: [stable] sahara 4.0.1 release (mitaka) https://review.openstack.org/326537 | 14:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed openstack/releases: [stable] sahara 4.0.1 release (mitaka) https://review.openstack.org/326537 | 14:54 |
| odyssey4me | dhellmann ttx FYI I've submitted the patch to consolidate the deliverables. | 14:55 |
| odyssey4me | https://review.openstack.org/326534 | 14:55 |
| dhellmann | odyssey4me : ack, I'll take a look today | 14:58 |
| dims | dhellmann : ack | 15:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: provide a way to turn off the build-job validation check https://review.openstack.org/326051 | 15:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Astara newton-1 milestone release https://review.openstack.org/324754 | 15:14 |
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| dhellmann | ryanpetrello : the astara-appliance n1 tag is in place | 15:37 |
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| dhellmann | jd__ : do you have a patch in progress to fix the aodh release job definitions? | 15:39 |
| jd__ | dhellmann: I don't think so, what should be fixed? | 15:39 |
| dhellmann | jd__ : you have both the server publish and pypi publish jobs, so some things are defined twice. If you want to publish to pypi, you can remove the server publish jobs. | 15:40 |
| jd__ | dhellmann: yeah, that should apply to Gnocchi too | 15:40 |
| jd__ | I didn't write a patch for that | 15:40 |
| dhellmann | sounds good, could be one patch | 15:40 |
| dhellmann | I'll do it, I'm blocked on some other work until that's fixed | 15:40 |
| jd__ | thanks dhellmann | 15:41 |
| dhellmann | jd__ : https://review.openstack.org/326589 | 15:42 |
| jd__ | kewl | 15:43 |
| ryanpetrello | dhellmann: thanks :) | 15:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dean Troyer proposed openstack/releases: Release python-openstackclient 2.6.0 https://review.openstack.org/326653 | 17:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sridhar Ramaswamy proposed openstack/releases: Release python-tackerclient 0.3.1 (mitaka) https://review.openstack.org/326684 | 18:15 |
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| Rockyg | dhellmann, dims . Refstack needs some release branch consulting. In meeting-alt at the moment, but also in refstack chanel | 19:18 |
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| Rockyg | dhellmann, I suspect what is really needed is a short summary and pointers to your docs where you explain the way semver works for OpenStack | 19:36 |
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| dims | oops missed the ping Rockyg sorry | 19:49 |
| Rockyg | dims, that's ok. doug just hanled it. | 19:51 |
| dhellmann | thanks for the heads-up Rockyg | 19:52 |
| Rockyg | Thanks fot the help. The team is a little isolated, so I'm trying to get them more aware of community resouces. | 19:53 |
| dims | thanks Rockyg dhellmann | 19:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases: liberty: release nova 12.0.4 https://review.openstack.org/326726 | 21:03 |
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| sridhar_ram | dhellmann: dims: fyi, i've pushed a minor bug fix release for tacker and python-tackerclient ... https://review.openstack.org/326185 and https://review.openstack.org/326684 Please review when you get a chance. Thanks! | 21:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for diablo deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326532 | 22:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for newton deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326522 | 22:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for remaining deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326533 | 22:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for mitaka deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326523 | 22:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for havana deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326528 | 22:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for juno deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326526 | 22:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for grizzly deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326529 | 22:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for icehouse deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326527 | 22:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for folsom deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326530 | 22:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for liberty deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326524 | 22:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for essex deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326531 | 22:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for kilo deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326525 | 22:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: maintain team ownership info in the deliverable files https://review.openstack.org/326151 | 22:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: treat independent projects in the wrong directory as warning https://review.openstack.org/326744 | 22:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: improve the error message for bad version numbers https://review.openstack.org/326745 | 22:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: don't apply version validation rules to existing tags https://review.openstack.org/326746 | 22:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add a "retired" flag for repositories https://review.openstack.org/326747 | 22:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for diablo deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326532 | 22:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for remaining deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326533 | 22:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for havana deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326528 | 22:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for juno deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326526 | 22:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for grizzly deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326529 | 22:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for icehouse deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326527 | 22:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for folsom deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326530 | 22:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team field for essex deliverables https://review.openstack.org/326531 | 22:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: maintain team ownership info in the deliverable files https://review.openstack.org/326151 | 22:28 |
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| EmilienM | dhellmann: do you have power to +A https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323027/ or only ttx ? | 22:35 |
| patchbot | EmilienM: patch 323027 - governance - Update Puppet OpenStack release tags | 22:35 |
| dhellmann | EmilienM : no, only ttx does. he's at a foundation event, but I thought he would take care of it as part of his governance sweep for the tc meeting today | 22:36 |
| EmilienM | it was late for him, no worries | 22:36 |
| EmilienM | just wondering how governance patches work | 22:36 |
| EmilienM | I can wait tomorrow, no problem! | 22:36 |
| dhellmann | normally there's only a week or so delay. with the off-site event this week you might need to give him a few more days. | 22:37 |
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| dtroyer | dhellmann: when you get a chance, I would like your opinion (if any) on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325593/. This changes our relnotes structure to be major version based rather than release cycle named. I want to lessen the association in users minds that they might need a 'Liberty' release of OSC to use with a Liberty cloud. | 22:40 |
| patchbot | dtroyer: patch 325593 - python-openstackclient - Set up 3.x release notes | 22:40 |
| dhellmann | dtroyer : the idea in general seems fine. I'll look at the patch tomorrow. I wonder if we can do better than listing every version number, though. maybe add a range syntax to the :version: field? | 22:41 |
| dhellmann | or maybe just newest-version and earliest-version or something like that | 22:42 |
| dtroyer | That would be great, but fortunately it's only needed for prior release pages so I can live with it. | 22:42 |
| dhellmann | ok | 22:42 |
| dhellmann | added to my review queue for tomorrow | 22:43 |
| dtroyer | thanks | 22:43 |
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