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| SAshish | Hi All | 06:29 |
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| sorantis | Hi. I was wondering if I can get some help with this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280295/ | 06:49 |
| patchbot | sorantis: patch 280295 - requirements - Add kingbird to the list of projects | 06:49 |
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| sorantis | Can I ask to make an exception for kingbird to be added to the requirements list? | 06:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: move the check for the SHA to match HEAD earlier https://review.openstack.org/288139 | 10:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: merge pbr deliverable files into independent directory https://review.openstack.org/288651 | 10:18 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: I thought I'd go ahead and process that nova stable release, unless you can see a reason to wait? | 13:12 |
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| dims_ | dhellmann : ttx : travelling today (day trip to NYC for bug smash) fyi | 13:24 |
| dhellmann | dims_ : ack, happy squashing | 13:24 |
| dims_ | thanks dhellmann :) | 13:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: liberty: release nova 12.0.2 https://review.openstack.org/288772 | 13:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: fix the ironic-inspector liberty release notes link https://review.openstack.org/289361 | 14:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: ignore existing default branch when setting new default branch https://review.openstack.org/289384 | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: make args to creating stable branch more explicit https://review.openstack.org/289385 | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: add script to generate branching instructions https://review.openstack.org/289386 | 15:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: dump a release tracking dashboard https://review.openstack.org/288739 | 15:42 |
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| dhellmann | dguitarbite : hi! | 17:14 |
| dhellmann | dguitarbite : ttx and I were reviewing the release model tags on projects last week, and found that training-labs is set to release:cycle-with-milestones but it doesn't have any recent tags | 17:15 |
| dhellmann | or branches, actually, since the most recent I see is kilo | 17:15 |
| dhellmann | dguitarbite : are you still releasing the labs in the same way, or should we see if another model tag makes more sense? | 17:16 |
| dguitarbite | dhellmann: hi, Im here | 17:23 |
| dguitarbite | dhellmann: We have decided to use branches for releases. I have to release liberty. | 17:23 |
| dhellmann | ok | 17:24 |
| dguitarbite | I am waiting for getting the success rate from 96~97% to 99 % hopefully more but atleast 99% | 17:24 |
| dhellmann | so you'll be creating the branch and preparing a release from that branch? | 17:24 |
| dguitarbite | Some technical problems on the RAM size for liberty. | 17:24 |
| dguitarbite | dhellmann: yes that is the plan. | 17:24 |
| dhellmann | well, vice versa actually, since we want branches created from tags, but yeah | 17:24 |
| dhellmann | ok | 17:24 |
| dguitarbite | If you want, I could move to creating tags | 17:25 |
| dhellmann | theoretically you'd do both | 17:25 |
| dguitarbite | The reason why I moved away from it is to avoid feature branches. Its easier for the working style of training-labs team. | 17:25 |
| dhellmann | create the tag to trigger the release, and then create a branch from that tag for updates to the release | 17:25 |
| dguitarbite | dhellmann: ok, Ill change that. Should I also do the same for older releases? | 17:25 |
| dhellmann | if you're not tagging now, how are you actually producing a release artifact? | 17:26 |
| dhellmann | and what artifacts are produced from that repo (sorry, I don't know what it is)? | 17:26 |
| dguitarbite | I actually dont know what is a release artifact. The repository is barely 6 months old. | 17:26 |
| dguitarbite | Do you have a link? | 17:26 |
| dhellmann | usually when we say we're making a release we build something from the repository and publish it separately | 17:27 |
| dhellmann | so for python code we might prepare a package and upload it to pypi.python.org or make a tarball and post it to tarballs.openstack.org | 17:27 |
| dguitarbite | Ahh, yes I just got that patch merged in infra:http://tarballs.openstack.org/training-labs/ | 17:27 |
| dhellmann | do you do something like that? or do you just create the branch at the point where you want to have a release? | 17:27 |
| dguitarbite | We are publishing tar balls which are a bit different from other projects since we just need some specific parts of the repo. | 17:27 |
| dhellmann | ah, good | 17:28 |
| dguitarbite | So the current script http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/training-labs/tree/tools/generate-labs takes the branch name from Zuul/Jenkins job and creates a tarball from there | 17:28 |
| dguitarbite | Do I need to do more? I can change it easily since its quite the beginning of the project. | 17:29 |
| dhellmann | the tarballs you have now will be updated in place each time a new commit is made on one of those branches | 17:29 |
| dhellmann | that's useful for someone tracking the branch, but it's not a reproducable release in the sense that a tag is | 17:29 |
| dguitarbite | Ok, I think I understand your point here. I can freeze the releases and create stable tarballs and then the release-current tarballs (which is what is happening now) | 17:30 |
| dguitarbite | So tags are really handy for that I assume. | 17:31 |
| dhellmann | that's right | 17:31 |
| ttx | dhellmann: traveling Tue-Fri, should be online from time to time, but expect delays | 17:31 |
| dhellmann | it's the difference between being able to point at something that's always the same, and something that is updated over time | 17:31 |
| dhellmann | ttx: ack, np | 17:31 |
| dguitarbite | ok, now it makes more sense to me! Thanks :) | 17:32 |
| dhellmann | dguitarbite : so I think what we want to do is set up the jobs that produce releases based on tags, and then decide on a version numbering scheme (you have to use numbers, not names), and then we can set up the tagging information in the openstack/releases repository | 17:32 |
| dhellmann | then the release team can help you prepare releases when you're ready for them | 17:32 |
| dguitarbite | dhellmann: There is a python port I am working on at present. Does it make more sense to do this after the port or I should do it right away? ETA for the port is around 2-3 months before I start pushing it into the repo. | 17:33 |
| dhellmann | dguitarbite : I recommend using 1.0.0 for the earliest release, and increasing to 2.0.0, etc. for each series. That way within a series if you have updates, you can increment the minor version number (1.1.0) for new features and the patch version number (1.0.1) for bug fixes | 17:33 |
| dhellmann | dguitarbite : we could start with your existing releases, and set the pattern to use for the upcoming releases | 17:34 |
| dhellmann | dguitarbite : the other aspect of the release model tag is *when* releases are produced | 17:35 |
| dhellmann | if you're intending to release something new at the end of each cycle, a model like cycle-with-milestones or cycle-with-intermediary makes sense | 17:35 |
| dguitarbite | Ok, I guess I could get Liberty to be v1.0.0 does not make much sense to do that for icehouse/kilo/juno since they will be EOL/not supported very soon. | 17:35 |
| dhellmann | but if you're releasing any time and not in sync with the milestone, using the independent release model makes more sense | 17:35 |
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| dhellmann | dguitarbite : I suppose, though to be accurate you could go back and tag all of those older releases, too. it's up to you. | 17:36 |
| dguitarbite | dhellmann: So, there will be one major release with other openstack projects for sure. The intermediaries are a bit more random but I could discuss this with the team and get a 2/3 milestone based approach too. | 17:37 |
| dhellmann | for the milestone model, we really do expect you to be ready to prepare something on those deadlines, so if you're not sure about that I recommend cycle-with-intermediary | 17:38 |
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| dhellmann | the important thing is to accurately reflect what you want to do, so that consumers can understand what to expect | 17:38 |
| dguitarbite | dhellmann: I think I can visualize a 6 months cycle with a major release and intermediary for starting to work on the next release of OpenStack. Since we have two sides of devel. Library and deployment scripts, second part is in sync with install-guides,. | 17:41 |
| dhellmann | dguitarbite : that makes sense | 17:42 |
| dguitarbite | so 1.0.0, 2.0.0 for major releases: 1.1.0, 2.1.0 for intermediaries and then 1.1.1 for bug fixes etc. which are totally random. | 17:42 |
| dhellmann | that's right | 17:43 |
| dhellmann | we would create branches from the major releases, and the updates would be tagged on those branches | 17:43 |
| dguitarbite | Yes | 17:44 |
| dguitarbite | makes sense. | 17:44 |
| dguitarbite | dhellmann: Awesome! Now I need to realize this model, a bit scared of infra but I think I could figure it out. Any links handy? I will ofcourse wait till the next team meeting and get votes from the entire team on this. | 17:44 |
| dhellmann | I can help you figure out which jobs you need | 17:45 |
| dhellmann | if you look at the publish-to-pypi macro at the top of zuul/layout.yaml that should give you some idea | 17:45 |
| dhellmann | you won't want all of them, though | 17:45 |
| dhellmann | actually, openstack-server-release-jobs is a closer fit | 17:45 |
| dhellmann | in fact, you could probably use that as-is | 17:46 |
| * dguitarbite checking out openstack-infra repo. project-config | 17:47 | |
| dhellmann | dguitarbite : the other thing to do is update the tag in the governance repo to cycle-with-intermediary. If you do that, ttx and I can vote on and approve it | 17:47 |
| dguitarbite | dhellmann: Ok, I will do it. Does the governance patch go in first or the infra job nneeds to go in first | 17:49 |
| dhellmann | dguitarbite : the order doesn't matter for those | 17:50 |
| dguitarbite | dhellmann: ok, so I will publish the governance job on Wed. after the team meeting | 17:52 |
| dhellmann | dguitarbite : sounds good, I'll watch for it | 17:52 |
| dguitarbite | dhellmann: yes, thanks a lot. Anything else? | 17:53 |
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| dhellmann | dguitarbite : no, I think that covers everything, thanks | 17:59 |
| dguitarbite | dhellmann: Thanks a lot! :). | 18:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: add script to generate branching instructions https://review.openstack.org/289386 | 18:04 |
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| mhayden | is this the right place to ask about the openstack/requirements repo? | 19:41 |
| mhayden | if so, i have a question around bumping the max version for python-openstackclient in kilo to 1.6.0 to bring in the internalURL fix | 19:44 |
| mhayden | if i am totally crazy for suggesting this, please let me know :) | 19:44 |
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| sridhar_ram | dhellmann: ping, need your guidance to work out a release plan for tacker.. whenever you've sometime | 21:53 |
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| stevemar | mhayden: i don't think that's possible, we released 1.6.0 and a lot of previous versions in liberty https://github.com/openstack/releases/blob/master/deliverables/liberty/python-openstackclient.yaml | 22:29 |
| dhellmann | mhayden : you want to raise the maximum version? not the minimum? | 22:32 |
| dhellmann | mhayden : for stable branches, you probably want to ask in #openstack-stable | 22:32 |
| dhellmann | sridhar_ram : what tz are you in? it's close to the end of my day here on the east coast of the us | 22:33 |
| sridhar_ram | dhellmann: I'm in PST | 22:33 |
| dhellmann | sridhar_ram : ok, maybe we can connect tomorrow in your morning? | 22:33 |
| sridhar_ram | dhellmann: ... and yes, it won't be a quick one! | 22:33 |
| sridhar_ram | dhellmann: sure... when does your typical office hrs start ? | 22:34 |
| dhellmann | sridhar_ram : 9 am-ish EST | 22:34 |
| sridhar_ram | dhellmann: sounds good.. will ping tomorrow morning. Thanks | 22:34 |
| dhellmann | sridhar_ram : sounds good | 22:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/reno: always show coverage report for test runs https://review.openstack.org/289602 | 22:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/reno: improve test coverage https://review.openstack.org/289603 | 22:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/reno: refactor argument buildup to make it more reusable https://review.openstack.org/289604 | 22:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/reno: add 'cache' command to write a cache file https://review.openstack.org/289605 | 22:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/reno: use the cache file instead of scanner when possible https://review.openstack.org/289606 | 22:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/reno: make the cache command write to a file by default https://review.openstack.org/289607 | 22:56 |
| dhellmann | ttx, lifeless: that patch series ^^ sets us up to add reno support to pbr so we can start including release notes in sdists | 22:57 |
| dhellmann | the loader probably needs more tests, but it's been a long day | 22:57 |
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