Friday, 2015-11-13

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases: Move independent project releases  https://review.openstack.org/24209812:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases: display release:independent projects on a separate page  https://review.openstack.org/24426412:50
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases: add mitaka page to toctree  https://review.openstack.org/24426512:50
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases: include some details about how we want commit messages structured  https://review.openstack.org/24380113:06
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dhellmannttx: do we want to meet today, or wait for next friday? I don't think there's anything major to discuss, so it should be a short meeting anyway13:53
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dhellmannhi, daemontool_14:05
daemontool_hi dhellmann14:05
daemontool_so in Freezer we wanted to be aligned to kilo global-requirements14:05
dhellmannin your master branch?14:06
daemontool_yes14:06
daemontool_now14:06
daemontool_so my question is14:06
daemontool_can we create a stable/kilo branch now?14:06
daemontool_and move to liberty, then create stable/liberty14:06
daemontool_and from there have master on mitaka?14:06
daemontool_and so on?14:06
daemontool_we did this, because we wanted to give to as much as users a possible the possibility to use the tool14:07
daemontool_also in production environments14:07
dhellmannwhat would that enable you to do?14:07
daemontool_no one use mitaka in production14:07
daemontool_a lots of users use kilo and liberty14:07
daemontool_so, if the tool works with the requirements from kilo and mitaka14:08
daemontool_more people can use it14:08
daemontool_on their prod env14:08
dhellmannstable branches, by definition, don't get new features. Are you ready to apply a feature freeze to those branches?14:08
daemontool_yes14:08
dhellmannis master currently compatible with kilo?14:09
daemontool_yes14:09
daemontool_on freezer, freezer-api and freezer-web-ui repos14:09
dhellmannok, I think what you're proposing makes sense then14:09
daemontool_:)14:09
daemontool_always a pleasure to talk with you dhellmann  :)14:09
dhellmannrelease and branch stable/kilo now, then update to work with liberty and do the same thing, etc.14:09
daemontool_ok ty14:10
dhellmannjust keep in mind that rule about back-porting features14:10
ttxdhellmann: oops14:10
ttxI assumed we would skip14:10
daemontool_dhellmann,  ok14:11
ttxdhellmann: maybe do a quick one14:11
dhellmannttx: we haven't talked in 2 days, I miss you ;-)14:11
ttxthat is true14:11
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dhellmannttx: ok, I'll move to #openstack-meeting14:12
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dims_ttx dhellmann one of you please bless https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243839/ ? it's holding up some neutron breaks for notifications (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242775/)14:41
dhellmanndaemontool_ : Jokke_ said you're having trouble making the branch. Let me know if I can help.14:42
dhellmanndims_ : holding up some neutron *fixes* I hope? :-)14:43
dims_haha yes, notifications are busted :) this helps fix them14:44
dhellmanndims_ : +2a14:44
dims_thanks dhellmann14:45
daemontool_dhellmann,  I'm having a conversation about it with AJaeger in -infra I'll get back to you if I need help, thanks14:46
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dhellmanndaemontool_ : ack14:52
ttxlifeless: you probably want to chime in on the "[stable][neutron] upper constraints for stable/liberty" thread when you have a few minutes14:52
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dhellmanndaemontool_ : (repeating from -infra) please make sure you tag a release before creating a branch14:53
daemontool_ok14:54
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dhellmanndaemontool_ : another thing to consider is that since liberty does not have caps, you could support liberty out of master15:05
daemontool_that's cool... life is easy for once15:10
daemontool_lol15:10
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daemontool_dhellmann,  so the workflow would be: 1) release the version on pypi, 2) tag on the repo that version from pypi 3) create stable branch15:13
daemontool_the tag should correspond to the pypi version right?15:14
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dhellmanndaemontool_ : no, tagging will create the release and publish it if you have the right jobs and permissions set up15:39
dhellmanndaemontool_ : let me find those directions15:39
dhellmanndaemontool_ : go through this guide and make sure your project and repo match everything here: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html15:39
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daemontool_ok ty15:43
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ttxdhellmann: Could you give a quick look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245215 ? I'd like to fix that index asap16:00
dhellmannttx: lgtm, we should turn on the flag to make sphinx fail the build for warnings to catch these things16:01
ttxindeed16:01
dhellmannI wonder if it's on, but we're being hit by the pbr bug that made that option not actually be used16:02
ttxthat is possible16:02
ttxI know I hit errors running tox on my branches that are not related to my change16:02
ttx(on another review)16:02
dhellmannhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/229951/16:02
dhellmannthat fixes it, but lifeless is worried it will break projects since we've lived with it not active for so long16:03
ttxit will indeed break, ideally we should find a way to fix all the issues before turning iton16:03
dhellmannyeah, I've put that on my back-burner16:04
dhellmannI'll send email out16:04
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odyssey4meAs I recall from the Mitaka release discussion, upper-constraints is not being maintained for kilo. Is that correct?17:09
sdagueodyssey4me: it does not exist in kilo17:17
sdagueit was designed at the liberty summit17:17
odyssey4mesdague http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/requirements/tree/upper-constraints.txt :)17:18
odyssey4mewhoops, silly me17:18
odyssey4mehttp://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/requirements/tree/upper-constraints.txt?h=stable%2Fkilo17:18
sdaguehmmmm17:18
sdagueI didn't realize it backported17:19
sdaguethe infrastructure I thought was just on liberty and forward17:19
odyssey4meI vaguely recall a mention that it was not being maintained. At the time I wasn't too phased by it... but after consideration I think this may be worth keeping up to date if at all possible.17:19
odyssey4meThe silliness of maintaining caps in stable/kilo hurts.17:20
sdagueyeh, it looks like a single commit really17:21
sdaguehttps://github.com/openstack/requirements/commits/stable/kilo/upper-constraints.txt17:21
odyssey4meUnfortunately due to downstream consumers, I would guess that the caps would have to remain and be maintained too - but the impact can be reduced in the gate and for anyone consuming upper-constraints if upper constraints are maintained.17:21
sdagueso, for it to be maintained, the devstack support would need to be backported to kilo as well17:21
sdaguewhich is not totally crazy17:22
sdaguebut no one signed up for it17:22
sdagueI'll review those if you are signing up for it17:22
odyssey4meIf I knew enough to do it, I probably would. Perhaps I can rustle up some volunteers. Was there a blueprint, spec or topic under which the work was done?17:24
odyssey4meI did find https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-specs/specs/requirements-management.html17:25
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redrobotohai release friends...  just wondering if the Milestone release process is still the same this cycle ie. ping the Release Liaison and then tag?  Or will it require a patch to openstack/releases ?19:36
dhellmannredrobot : it's going to involve a patch to releases and then a patch to your repo to edit setup.cfg. I'll be sending email with more details as we get closer to them milestone date19:52
redrobotdhellmann awesome, thanks.  Just asking because I'm going to be MIA for the Milestone-1 release, and I'll be deferring to one of our core team members for the release.19:52
dhellmannredrobot : ok, just have that person let me know so I know the patch is coming from the right source, and we'll help them through the process19:53
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