Tuesday, 2017-10-10

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DinaBelova#startmeeting Performance Team15:30
openstackMeeting started Tue Oct 10 15:30:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is DinaBelova. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:30
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:30
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Performance Team)"15:30
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'performance_team'15:30
DinaBelovailyashakhat o/15:30
ilyashakhatDinaBelova, hi/15:30
DinaBelovahm, it looks like we do not have any other folks sin irc channel so far :)15:30
DinaBelovalet's wait for a few moments15:31
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DinaBelovamsimonin hey o/15:32
msimoninhey DinaBelova :)15:32
msimoninyou are here :p15:32
DinaBelova:D you too :D15:32
msimoninll15:33
msimoninlol*15:33
DinaBelovaokay, it looks like we have ilyashakhat and msimonin - sad that I do not see tovin07 so far15:33
DinaBelovahm, well, it looks like we'll have kinda quick session now15:33
DinaBelova#topic Action Items15:34
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ilyashakhatdo we have any?15:34
DinaBelovalast time we had only one action item on tovin07, so lemme keep it this time as well, as he does not seem to join today15:34
DinaBelova#action tovin07 identify how to separate call/cast rpc calls within osprofiler tracing15:35
DinaBelovaso we can proceed for now15:35
DinaBelova#topic Current status15:35
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DinaBelovamsimonin I see you've uploaded new version of the test plan on review :)15:35
DinaBelovamsimonin anyway - what's current status on your side? :)15:35
msimoninoh yes we made one more iteration with kgiusti15:35
msimoninThis test plan is ready for reviews15:36
msimonin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49181815:36
DinaBelova#action DinaBelova ilyashakhat review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/491818/15:36
msimoninNow we'll start implementing it15:36
msimoninwith rmq and qpid-dispatch15:36
DinaBelovamsimonin as it looks like you're only person from inria today - any news on performance study of the databases ? including cockroachDB research?15:38
msimoninyes rcherrueau won't join today15:38
msimoninnot too much15:39
DinaBelovamsimonin ack15:39
msimoninI think we need to formalize a plan as well15:39
DinaBelovailyashakhat so let's switch to you, sir :) any news on current progress?15:39
DinaBelovamsimonin ack, let us review it15:39
ilyashakhatnothing new from my side, sorry :(15:40
DinaBelovamsimonin I believe we'll give some feedback this week15:40
msimoninoh great :)15:41
DinaBelovamsimonin anything else to share, sir?15:41
msimoninwe had a pad about Q release plan15:41
DinaBelova#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/performance-team-q-release-ideas15:41
msimoninoh they are some +1 :)15:42
msimoninFrom my side there are things related to fog/edge15:42
msimoninline 11-1315:43
DinaBelovayeah, from plans perspective it looks like we have a pack of things that you folks are planning to do (you're going to do it anyway, but i'll set my +1s there :D)15:43
DinaBelovayes15:43
msimoninI've put a note at the end15:43
msimoninabout "continuous benchmarking tool"15:43
DinaBelovaoh, I missed this particular item15:43
msimoninI'm curious to know if it has already been discussed in the OpenStack community15:43
DinaBelovahm, I did not see much about this15:44
DinaBelovaif we'll skip what rajulk2 is doing15:44
ilyashakhatthey even have a name for a project: https://openstack-lcoo.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/LCOO/pages/13393034/Eris+-+Extreme+Testing+Framework+for+OpenStack15:44
msimoninI've copy/paste the comment from mriedem15:44
ilyashakhatBTW, DinaBelova do we have any relations with LCOO team?15:45
DinaBelovailyashakhat I believe not that much15:45
ilyashakhatas I understand they took some ideas from Timur's session in Barcelona and moved forward with it15:46
DinaBelovamsimonin I see. Well, from scale testing perspective my folks swithced to virtualized envs for the scale testing, this means that high scale + high number of VMs is not anymore possible on our virtualized labs15:46
DinaBelovailyashakhat it looks like this, I see stepler among the tools to be used15:47
ilyashakhatyep, and I even saw a report that looks similar to reliability that I made last year15:47
msimoninDinaBelova: you mean you don't have access to bare metal ressources anymore ?15:48
ilyashakhata moment, will find a link again15:48
DinaBelovamsimonin yes, for large scale. We do have specific HW labs for particular performance researches, but it's not about high-scale bm15:49
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DinaBelovait's kinda costy, and yet mostly deployment architecture is usually verified, so it's ok to run those tests on vms usually15:49
msimoninOk I see15:49
msimoninbtw, do we have any plan to evaluate the CellV2 ?15:51
ilyashakhatDinaBelova, will you be interested in measuring performance impact of profiling?15:51
DinaBelovamsimonin not from my side, my team will be kinda busy with other items to be covered15:52
DinaBelovailyashakhat I like this item, yes15:52
msimoninilyashakhat: me too :)15:52
ilyashakhatcool :)15:52
DinaBelovailyashakhat but I guess I can provide very little of myself to participate in this :D15:53
DinaBelovaI believe tovin was also interested15:53
DinaBelovaeven in taing active part15:53
msimoninDo you envision the way you can evaluate the impact ?15:53
DinaBelovataking*15:53
ilyashakhatI would start with comparing duration of long operations like VM creation15:54
msimoninusing Rally ?15:55
DinaBelova+ resource consumption of openstack services and the osprofiler storage15:55
ilyashakhatRally can be an option15:55
ilyashakhatprofiling can be enabled directly in Rally scenario, so it's easy to use now15:56
DinaBelovailyashakhat i believe it will be the most convinient option now, yes15:57
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ilyashakhathere's the HA testing report from LCOO: https://openstack-lcoo.atlassian.net/wiki/download/attachments/13393034/TestResultsAnalysis-2.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1500988830906&cacheVersion=1&api=v215:58
ilyashakhatquite impressive15:59
DinaBelovailyashakhat it looks right like you did with reliability testing once :)15:59
DinaBelovaI mean charts15:59
ilyashakhatyep16:00
DinaBelovalooks really nice, I agree16:00
msimoninthanks for findind it :)16:00
msimoninfinding*16:00
ilyashakhatI keep an eye on them :)16:00
DinaBelovacool16:00
DinaBelovaI guess let's go back to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/performance-team-q-release-ideas next time once tovin will join uss next time16:01
msimoninack16:01
DinaBelova#topic Open Discussion16:01
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DinaBelovaokay, any more interesting items to cover?16:01
DinaBelovailyashakhat thanks for sharing LCOO details16:02
ilyashakhatnp16:02
DinaBelovait looks like we do not have anything else to cover today :) ilyashakhat msimonin ?16:03
ilyashakhata moment :)16:03
DinaBelovaack16:03
ilyashakhatDinaBelova, do you have an insight whether you/your colleagues using os-faults?16:03
ilyashakhatI was going to make some changes, but it's hard to say who is using it16:04
ilyashakhatexcept me :)16:04
DinaBelovaour OpenStack core team should be using it if i'm not mistaken16:04
ilyashakhatokey, than I'll be careful16:04
ilyashakhatthat's all from me :)16:05
DinaBelovaack, thank you sir :)16:05
msimoninCan you express link failure in os-faults ?16:05
ilyashakhathttp://os-faults.readthedocs.io/en/latest/16:05
* msimonin should read the doc :) 16:05
ilyashakhatbut the purpose is better described in performance-docs16:06
ilyashakhathttps://docs.openstack.org/developer/performance-docs/test_plans/reliability/version_2/plan.html16:06
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msimoninilyashakhat: thanks, I'll go through this16:07
msimoninI'm done for today from my side16:09
DinaBelovathank you folks16:09
DinaBelovahave a good evening16:09
ilyashakhatgoodbye!16:09
DinaBelova#endmeeting16:09
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msimoninbye16:09
ilyashakhathave a nice day DinaBelova16:09
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