Monday, 2018-08-20

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openstackgerritTommyLike proposed openstack/oslo.privsep master: Use green thread to proceed target function  https://review.openstack.org/59355609:30
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openstackgerritDirk Mueller proposed openstack/mox3 master: Remove flake8 from the test-requirements  https://review.openstack.org/59356610:03
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openstackgerritjian.song proposed openstack/taskflow master: Fix a symbol error  https://review.openstack.org/59357110:35
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bnemec#startmeeting oslo15:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Aug 20 15:00:29 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)"15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'oslo'15:00
bnemeccourtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, ansmith, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims15:00
bnemeccourtesy ping for dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb, haypo15:00
bnemeccourtesy ping for jd__, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lhx_, njohnston15:00
bnemeccourtesy ping for raildo, redrobot, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, stephenfin, stevemar15:00
bnemeccourtesy ping for therve, thinrichs, toabctl, zhiyan, zxy, zzzeek15:00
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dhellmannI guess we solved the ping/kick problem?15:00
bnemec#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting15:01
redroboto/ but only kinda b/c I have another meeting happening in parallel15:01
bnemecdhellmann: It sounds like it was only an issue if you had the Sigyn bot in your channel.15:01
kgiustio/15:01
dhellmannah15:01
bnemecIt was never a problem for this meeting, I only asked about it to try to avoid having it become one.15:01
bnemec#topic Red flags for/from liaisons15:03
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bnemecPretty light activity on the release front for us so there shouldn't be much in the way of new problems.15:04
bnemec#topic Releases15:06
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bnemecI think the only noteworthy thing here is the Castellan FFE, which needs an ack from the requirements team.15:06
bnemec#link https://review.openstack.org/59274615:07
bnemec#topic Action items from last meeting15:07
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bnemec"Review patches listed in http://paste.openstack.org/show/727932/"15:08
bnemecMade some progress, although I believe there are a number of those still open.15:08
bnemecWill keep that one on the list for next week.15:09
bnemec#action Review patches listed in http://paste.openstack.org/show/727932/15:09
bnemec"bnemec to update Gerrit ACLs with new cores"15:09
bnemecI got Zane added to oslo.service.  Because of the change to Moises' proposed status that got delayed until this week.15:10
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bnemecdhellmann: You were going to update the ACL for the latter?15:11
bnemec(assuming no objections, of course)15:11
bnemecOkay, someone will take care of that when the time comes.15:13
bnemec#action add moguimar to core ACL after review period ends15:13
bnemecWhich I think is soon.15:14
bnemecAnd that was it for action items.15:14
bnemec#topic PTG planning etherpad15:14
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bnemec#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-stein-ptg-planning15:14
bnemecI was wondering this morning if there's any common code for the upgrade status goal that should live in Oslo.15:15
bnemecI haven't looked at the existing code in Nova though so TBD on that.15:16
bnemecAnyway, if you have anything to discuss feel free to add it to the etherpad.  It's still pretty light right now.15:16
bnemec#topic Berlin Project Update and Onboarding15:16
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bnemecLooking ahead, I got the request from the Foundation to let them know if we want to do a project update and onboarding session in Berlin.15:17
bnemecI have no idea whether I'm going yet though.15:17
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bnemecSo I guess this is kind of a notification to start thinking about what, if anything, we would want to include in such sessions.15:18
bnemecOtherwise we can revisit this once travel plans are clearer.15:19
bnemec#topic Broken repos15:19
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bnemecDoug's patch bombs have exposed the fact that some of our repos are failing ci for various reasons.15:20
bnemecMostly it's missing stestr migrations on the rocky branch.15:20
bnemec#link https://review.openstack.org/58798715:20
bnemec#link https://review.openstack.org/58804615:20
bnemec#link https://review.openstack.org/58806015:21
bnemecThat's oslo.cache, context, and reports.15:21
bnemecI have on my list that concurrency is also broken, but I think that was the bandit issue.15:21
bnemecAnd that's fixed: https://review.openstack.org/59266515:22
bnemecSo please review the stestr migration backports to unblock those repos.15:23
bnemec#action review stestr migration backports15:23
dhellmannbnemec : sorry, I got pulled away, yes, I can add moguimar to the core team15:23
bnemecdhellmann: Thanks15:24
dhellmannI'll do that today if you think we're ready, or I can wait until a week has passed from my update email (that should be Wednesday)15:24
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bnemecI'm okay with today.  I don't anticipate any objections and if somone does strongly disagree with adding him we can always undo the change while that discussion happens.15:26
dhellmanndone15:28
bnemecthanks15:28
bnemec#topic Weekly Wayward Review15:29
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bnemecSince most of these are feature reviews and I'd rather avoid merging any major features until final releases are done I'm going to punt a bit on this one.15:30
bnemecI just WIP'd a couple of patches in the list that needed it.15:30
bnemecOnce final releases are done we can look more seriously at merging features since the risk of backport pain is lower then.15:31
dhellmann++15:31
bnemec#topic Open discussion15:31
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bnemecGoing once...15:33
jungleboyjbnemec: Sorry.  Got pulled away.15:33
* dhellmann has nothing this week except to ask for reviews on those python3-first job patches15:34
jungleboyjI am pretty sure I will be in Berlin.15:34
jungleboyjHave verbal confirmation at least.15:34
jungleboyjSo, if you need help, let me know.15:34
bnemecjungleboyj: Great, thanks!15:34
jungleboyjbnemec:  No problem.15:34
bnemecI'm expecting to be there, but I haven't actually talked to anyone about it yet so that's pure speculation.15:35
jungleboyjOk.  Sounds good.15:35
* bnemec hasn't talked to his manager in about a month15:35
bnemecdhellmann: I had an action item for that earlier.15:35
bnemecThere are a few that were blocked on broken repos too, so there is also an action item to review those fixes.15:36
dhellmannyes, good on both counts15:37
bnemecOkay, anything else before we wrap it up?15:38
jungleboyjNothing from me.  Unless you can clone me or invent a time machine.15:38
bnemecI'm sure future me will chime in any moment...15:39
bnemecGuess not. :-)15:40
bnemecThanks for joining everyone!15:40
bnemec#endmeeting15:40
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Aug 20 15:40:16 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:40
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jungleboyj*sadness*15:40
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openstackgerritKen Giusti proposed openstack/oslo.messaging master: Avoid logging passwords on connection events  https://review.openstack.org/59369116:34
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/devstack-plugin-kafka master: import zuul job settings from project-config  https://review.openstack.org/58868518:53
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/stevedore master: add lib-forward-testing-python3 test job  https://review.openstack.org/59119919:13
openstackgerritKen Giusti proposed openstack/oslo.messaging master: Fix the coverage tox tests  https://review.openstack.org/59389219:21
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efriedō/19:31
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.service master: add lib-forward-testing-python3 test job  https://review.openstack.org/59119419:36
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/oslo.service master: Skips signal handling on Windows  https://review.openstack.org/59389719:49
efriedbnemec, dhellmann: I was chatting with cdent about adding uuidsentinel to oslo, and we're batting around whether it would make sense for it to be in oslo_utils.uuidutils or in oslotest. Thoughts?19:53
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bnemecefried: If it's only for testing purposes I think I'd lean toward oslotest.  That way it doesn't end up in the public api of a runtime library.20:03
bnemecAlthough we do have test fixtures for some of the libraries that live in the library itself, so there's precedent for the other way.20:03
bnemecBut users have a knack for finding obscure parts of a library and using it in a way you didn't intend. :-)20:04
efriedbnemec: I can't see a reason for it to be used outside of test, but I didn't think about it too hard. uuidutils seemed appropriate because a) the impl (at least the current one) uses uuidutils; and b) it's... uhh... a UUID util.20:07
efriedbnemec: Using it in a way it wasn't intended is the beauty of code, nah?  :)20:07
bnemecefried: Until we break it because it's a use case we don't test. :-)20:08
bnemecI don't have strong feelings about it though.20:09
bnemecIt's a pretty small and simple piece of code so I don't anticipate a lot of maintenance headaches regardless of where we put it.20:10
bnemecAlthough I know dhellmann had some concerns about thread safety and such.20:10
cdentif there are concerns about thready safety, that argues in favor of it being oslotest20:17
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cdentefried: ^20:28
efriedack20:28
efriedis there a problem with oslotest importing oslo_utils?20:28
* cdent doesn't know20:29
dhellmannefried : yes, I think that would introduce a circular dependency20:31
efrieddhellmann: Which is probably why nova's uuidsentinel does the import "locally".20:31
dhellmannprobably20:31
dhellmannwell, there it wouldn't matter20:31
dhellmannnova depends on both utils and test20:32
dhellmannif utils depends on test we can't have test depend on utils, too20:32
efriedDoes utils depend on test?20:32
dhellmannit does via test-requirements.txt20:32
dhellmannso yes20:32
efriedSo thread safety is not something I'm super conversant with; how hard would it be to make uuidsentinel threadsafe?20:32
dhellmannadding some locks around the uuid generation ought to do it20:33
dhellmannor a lock even20:33
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