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| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: live-mig: Mark migration as failed on fail to schedule https://review.openstack.org/244488 | 00:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: Don't track migrations in 'accepted' state https://review.openstack.org/244486 | 00:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: Move the Migration set-status-if-exists pattern to a method https://review.openstack.org/244487 | 00:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: compute: split check_can_live_migrate_destination https://review.openstack.org/244484 | 00:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack/nova: live-migrate: Change the status Migration is created with https://review.openstack.org/244485 | 00:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova: xenapi: OVS agent updates the wrong port when using XenServer + Neutron https://review.openstack.org/242846 | 01:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Make 'nova-list' correctly decode unicode strings https://review.openstack.org/244940 | 01:36 |
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| yuyangbj | Do we have a sub channel for os-vif project? If yes, can someone point me out? Thanks | 01:58 |
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| mriedem | gibi: can you take a look at the part of this spec about notifications? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228908/ it's talking about setting instance.display_description, which if updated on the instances table would go out in the instance.save() object notification. the question is if this is ok since notifications are unversioned. | 02:26 |
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| mriedem | we could always leave the notifications payload change out of this spec and just handle it later when we have versioned notifications | 02:28 |
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| chenli | hello, I' trying to run unit test for nova, after I run command "tox", I get error : http://paste.openstack.org/show/478763/ | 04:19 |
| chenli | anyone can help me here ?? | 04:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: virt: introduce libosinfo library to set hardware policy https://review.openstack.org/149625 | 04:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: use osinfo when configuring network model https://review.openstack.org/149627 | 04:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: adding a class to retrieve hardware properties https://review.openstack.org/149626 | 04:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: use osinfo when configuring the disk bus https://review.openstack.org/149628 | 04:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | li,chen proposed openstack/nova: Rename instance_type to flavor in DB models https://review.openstack.org/244985 | 04:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tang Chen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Support triggering crash dump in a server. https://review.openstack.org/229255 | 05:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/242727 | 06:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Split-network-plane-for-live-migration https://review.openstack.org/245005 | 06:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tang Chen proposed openstack/nova-specs: Support triggering crash dump in a server. https://review.openstack.org/229255 | 08:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Moshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: pci utils: fix the check if pci device is physical_function https://review.openstack.org/227160 | 08:40 |
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| bauzas | good morning Nova | 08:45 |
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| gibi | good morning | 08:45 |
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| alex_xu | apuimedo: opcompa | 08:59 |
| alex_xu | sorry, typo in the wrong window | 08:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Add expected_task_state for instance.save() used by block_device_mapping https://review.openstack.org/245038 | 09:05 |
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| apuimedo | alex_xu: ? | 09:17 |
| apuimedo | ah, ok | 09:17 |
| alex_xu | apuimedo: sorry :) | 09:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Roman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: delete the last file link in _supports_direct_io() https://review.openstack.org/224764 | 09:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Roman Podoliaka proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: delete the last file link in _supports_direct_io() https://review.openstack.org/224764 | 09:23 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: bauwser: welcome to nova-core :) | 09:37 |
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| ndipanov | yeah! | 09:45 |
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| ndipanov | alex_xu, and bauwser well deserved | 09:46 |
| ndipanov | now go and change all your +1s to +2s pls :) | 09:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | heh | 09:46 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: thanks, very humble to be nova-core | 09:46 |
| mdbooth | alex_xu bauwser: Congrats! | 09:46 |
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| bauwser | ndipanov: well, I hope to be a core still +1'ing | 09:47 |
| bauwser | ndipanov: because it helps people understanding that they're on the good direction | 09:47 |
| ndipanov | ok the ones you're sure about than... | 09:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE https://review.openstack.org/245050 | 09:48 |
| kashyap | ndipanov: Shouldn't your nick read "ndipanoff"? :-) | 09:50 |
| ndipanov | my nick is it's almost 7PM here so I'm off | 09:50 |
| ndipanov | :) | 09:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE https://review.openstack.org/245050 | 09:52 |
| RuiChen | hi johnthetubaguy , not quite understand your preferred alternative in spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216578/ you means that don't add new task_state, just check the instance actions when rebuild in API? | 09:55 |
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| johnthetubaguy | RuiChen: thats it, yes. Honestly, I am not keen on that method either, but I prefer it. Agreed its an important problem to fix. | 09:59 |
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| RuiChen | johnthetubaguy: looks like checking instance actions when rebuild, that is more simple way to resolve my issue. | 10:02 |
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| RuiChen | johnthetubaguy: adding new task state impact too many thing. | 10:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | RuiChen: its worth a try | 10:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | RuiChen: I have a feeling we actually want that for anything that changes the task state from None | 10:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | RuiChen: I guess snapshot might be fine, but its easier to have a simple pattern to start with | 10:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | RuiChen: we probably need to make sure you only attach/detach vif/volume when task state is None, but I guess that check is already there | 10:05 |
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| RuiChen | johnthetubaguy: yes, I think I can add a common method to check instance actions, if other APIs need, it can use it , like I do on rebuild API. | 10:09 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Make some classes inherit from NoDBTestCase https://review.openstack.org/233798 | 10:10 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: use NoDBTestCase for KeypairPolicyTest https://review.openstack.org/232721 | 10:10 |
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| codebauss | quick question, i have error WARNING nova.virt.libvirt.driver [-] Timeout waiting for vif plugging callback for instance | 10:11 |
| codebauss | even if my instance OS is borked | 10:11 |
| codebauss | would that matter as it relates to this error? | 10:11 |
| codebauss | i am thinking not as from the code i would say it is at the virtualization layer this error occurs | 10:12 |
| codebauss | and so building the VM/instance/hardware is not contigent on the underlying OS | 10:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Remove two unneeded db lookups during delete of a resizing instance https://review.openstack.org/245063 | 10:30 |
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| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: so my take on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216578/8/specs/mitaka/approved/task-states-improvement.rst,cm is that I feel it's just because we don't log all the instance actions IMHO | 10:35 |
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| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: like if we were logging the attach/detach actions, we wouldn't need to add new tasks that could potentially complicate any task model we could write | 10:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: yeah, thats certainly part of it. I think it actually boils down to a bug fix, where RuiChen wasn't to stop rebuild happening when we are still detaching volumes, or something like that | 10:36 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: I feel so as well | 10:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: so I was basically meaning we use instance actions to track the attach/detach stuff, that probably hasn't got into that spec yet | 10:37 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: the Tasks API could certainly tackle that but given it's a bit early (although I plan to draw a few stuff by Mitaka), I feel it can be tackled by the instance-actions API | 10:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | actually, I was just thinking about error handing | 10:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | do we have a spec up for fixing up instance-actions | 10:37 |
| bauwser | I wasn't planning to fix instance-actions, just making sure we were adding more than what we have atm | 10:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | it sort of touches on the work gibi and mmmpork are doing around notifications | 10:38 |
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| johnthetubaguy | right, just thinking we should get a spec up for that | 10:38 |
| PaulMurray | alex_xu, bauwser congratulations | 10:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | to be sure we document/track it | 10:38 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: there is the manifesto I should somehow put somewhere :) | 10:39 |
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| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: and then I could fill up a spec for sure | 10:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Removes support for Hyper-V Server 2008 R2 https://review.openstack.org/237643 | 10:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: adds os-win library https://review.openstack.org/212102 | 10:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: removes *Utils modules and unit tests https://review.openstack.org/215917 | 10:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Converting nova.virt.hyperv to py3 https://review.openstack.org/232554 | 10:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: yeah, manifesto is good | 10:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | but I like the tiny steps | 10:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | its a little like the python-34 blueprint in a way | 10:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | just to help group the reviews | 10:42 |
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| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, RuiChen, the solution your coming to for detach/attach isn't going to solve my problem for shelved_offloaded instances | 10:45 |
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| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, so I'm starting to think I don't depend on it and will need something else | 10:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: Add SerialConsoleOps class https://review.openstack.org/184040 | 10:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: Add serial console handler class https://review.openstack.org/184039 | 10:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: HyperV: Add serial console proxy https://review.openstack.org/184038 | 10:46 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, basically I'm back to the fact that attach actions get serialized on the compute host | 10:47 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, so if multiple attach operations are allowed, I need a way to serialize them in the API | 10:47 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, server. | 10:47 |
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| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: yeah, they are diverging | 10:48 |
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| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: you could use instance actions for your case too, I think | 10:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: when not connected to a host, only allow one attach/detach at once, maybe? | 10:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | to be clear, this is my crazy idea, rather than something everyone has bought into, at this point | 10:49 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, I think allowing multiple operations at once is a good point though | 10:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: in the general case, for sure | 10:50 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, I did wonder if there is something even more generic for that | 10:50 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, i.e. some operations can happen at the same time and others are mutually exclusive | 10:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | my thinking was more about, how do we fix the bug, but keep the API contract almost the same | 10:50 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, and not actually invent a new task flow programming language? shame | 10:51 |
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| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: I was going to say, we basically call that tasks | 10:51 |
| bauwser | +1 | 10:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | the problem is how to we evolve in that direction, and stage the implementation, which upgrade and keeping our existing API contract | 10:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | these two volume cases are great things to start that move | 10:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | well the migration state machine thing is the other active one | 10:53 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, as we can't do attach/detach at all on shelved right now | 10:55 |
| mdbooth | Incidentally, I don't know where this fits in, but I have a general concern about state transfer | 10:55 |
| PaulMurray | it might be reasonable to say only one attach at a time or you fail with a collision error | 10:56 |
| mdbooth | We have a bunch of operations which 'pass the ball' round several services, migration being an obvious one | 10:56 |
| PaulMurray | but I'm not sure I like it being a special case....... | 10:56 |
| mdbooth | However, if you start to look closely, you notice that there are many points at which if the current holder of the ball dies, it's not possible to reliably work out what's safe to do | 10:56 |
| mdbooth | Evacuation is a classic case | 10:57 |
| mdbooth | I've been wondering if Tasks addresses this. Should probably look at the spec, I suppose. | 10:58 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: totally agreed, thats the big issue, we currently attempt to address some of that on actions on nova-compute start up, its very messy right now | 10:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | s/the/a/ | 10:58 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, johnthetubaguy getting clearly defined state machines for each operation is a good step | 10:59 |
| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: there was a plan to make the conductor responsible to ensuring the current owner is active | 10:59 |
| PaulMurray | so that is what tasks is really about isn't it? | 10:59 |
| johnthetubaguy | yep | 10:59 |
| mdbooth | johnthetubaguy: Actually conductor is a problem, because it doesn't have an address. | 11:00 |
| bauwser | there was even a plan to consider the conductor as an orchestrator for sending tasks to computes :) | 11:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | trouble is, its really about five or size things | 11:00 |
| mdbooth | It can't register itself as the current owner of anything | 11:00 |
| mdbooth | So if conductor dies, you can't go check to see if it's still running | 11:00 |
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| mdbooth | i.e. it's not possible to safely recover from a conductor failure in the general case | 11:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: yep | 11:01 |
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| PaulMurray | mdbooth, do you think of a single conductor "owning" the whole process? | 11:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Moshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: Enhance PCI passthrough whitelist to support regex https://review.openstack.org/199488 | 11:02 |
| bauwser | mdbooth: PaulMurray: comments welcome on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221280/3/doc/source/tasks.rst,cm | 11:02 |
| mdbooth | PaulMurray: I'm just thinking about recovery generally. I think as an aspiration, it should be possible to query an operation to find out if it currently still live. | 11:03 |
| PaulMurray | bauwser, will do - after we finishing second guessing what it might say :) | 11:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | so honestly, I was thinking more around all conductors ensuring stalled tasks are spotted, but at times a specific conductor is currently owning a task, its kind of both | 11:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: yeah, I have read through that once, I need to re-read that now more of this context is in my head | 11:04 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, right, in general I think the task records what has to be done next - so its what happens if a conductor goes awol in the act of doing the next thing | 11:04 |
| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: see, I know it's a very long story so we're not in a hurry | 11:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | so instance actions, are basically a very bad task record | 11:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | my first aim is to know if something failed | 11:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | later, we look at recovery, etc | 11:05 |
| bauwser | yeah, all of that has to be decoupled | 11:05 |
| mdbooth | johnthetubaguy: I think they're closely linked, tbh. Knowing that something failed requires knowing where it's running. | 11:06 |
| bauwser | mdbooth: but we even don't log that... | 11:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: totally agreed, I am just thinking about the aim is knowing if it has completed or failed | 11:07 |
| bauwser | (at least for some bits) | 11:07 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, right, so knowing that a task has been picked up and what picked it up is important | 11:07 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, given that it is possible to consider failure seperately | 11:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | so its normally sent, but yes | 11:07 |
| PaulMurray | because the appropriate demarcation point is identified | 11:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | instance actions are the basis of this | 11:08 |
| mdbooth | And being able to ask that target if it still has it... | 11:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: yes | 11:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | the monitoring piece is what I kinda-of wave my hands at the conductor, in some periodic task, but that has its own issues | 11:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, so I remember now | 11:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | instance actions, know when it has succeeded | 11:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | know when it has failed | 11:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | spot when it has stalled/killed/died | 11:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | roughly that order | 11:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | that later one, you need to know the owner, and if they are still making progress, etc | 11:11 |
| bauwser | heh, I should say 'read my manifesto' :p | 11:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 11:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | I need to do that again with this context in my head | 11:12 |
| bauwser | that said I feel I should also resurrect the tasks spec | 11:12 |
| bauwser | in order to have the foundational bits for later | 11:12 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, sounds good - but you can always be wrong about things failing/stalling/etc | 11:12 |
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| bauwser | so, my strategy would be to make sure that we log more instance actions than we currently have + implement the tasks object | 11:13 |
| bauwser | (with persistence) | 11:13 |
| bauwser | that sounds a reasonable target for Mitaka | 11:13 |
| PaulMurray | so long as the task can be cancelled/aborted while something thinks it has it everything is good | 11:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: totally true, partition tolerance is tricky | 11:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | right now, I am just keen we start to improve | 11:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | something about known unknowns (insert rambling speach) | 11:14 |
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| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, I'll get back to my impossible synchronization....... | 11:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: so would looking at the instance actions work for you? | 11:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: Claims: fix log message https://review.openstack.org/240706 | 11:22 |
| garyk | danpb: can you please look at https://review.openstack.org/225975 | 11:23 |
| mdbooth | PaulMurray johnthetubaguy: Sorry, was on a call. My thinking is born out looking at HA for evacuation. So, it's possible for an HA agent to safely recover because it can fence things. However, it needs to know what to fence. If the operation is in conductor, it doesn't know what to fence. Similarly, another component which just wants to know if it failed, eg so it can put it in an error state, doesn't know if con | 11:23 |
| mdbooth | ductor has completed. | 11:23 |
| mdbooth | If you can construct a circumstance where you can say 2 things: | 11:24 |
| mdbooth | 1. If a component runs, it will eventually reach either completion or an error state | 11:24 |
| mdbooth | 2. It is possible to query whether a component is running | 11:24 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, and make it more restrictive - so only one operation at a time? that should work, but there might be something else i can do | 11:24 |
| mdbooth | You can build a really reliable system | 11:24 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, I will look at exactly what needs to be synchronized - might be able to get away with something simple | 11:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: you could do one action per device name, or something like that, yeah | 11:25 |
| mdbooth | The state machine only addresses point 1 | 11:25 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, that's what I was thinking | 11:25 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: the spec from bauwser does cover both sides of that I feel | 11:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | well hints at them | 11:25 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, the one I know needs to be synchronized is where it reserves a name | 11:26 |
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| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: so detach allow multiple, attach synchronised, maybe? | 11:28 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, yes | 11:29 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, that is what happens in the compute manager at the moment I think | 11:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, that makes sense | 11:30 |
| PaulMurray | its because you know what your getting rid of, but you have to make up something unique to create | 11:30 |
| * mdbooth should try reading long specs just before lunch :) | 11:31 | |
| mdbooth | I'm going to punt that for a couple of hours. | 11:31 |
| * PaulMurray does it to get to sleep | 11:31 | |
| mdbooth | That's even worse! | 11:31 |
| bauwser | PaulMurray: so it's about allocating BDMs on a transactional way ? | 11:32 |
| mdbooth | bauwser: I like the manifesto :) | 11:32 |
| PaulMurray | bauwser, yes, picking names and slots and creating a unique bdm in the database | 11:32 |
| bauwser | PaulMurray: okay, I say that because that's like 1.5 week that we're trying to chase bugs with bdms in a cells world without lucj | 11:33 |
| bauwser | PaulMurray: and dansmith was having a great idea to key the bdms by uuids | 11:33 |
| bauwser | PaulMurray: because atm it's keyed by device_name that are actually unset by the driver ! | 11:34 |
| bauwser | so that's highly racy | 11:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Raga lahari proposed openstack/nova: Support for new --status parameter to "nova-manage vm list" command https://review.openstack.org/242370 | 11:34 |
| bauwser | but the fancy part of it hasn't landed yet | 11:34 |
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| bauwser | my brain got fried by like 1.5 week of investigation with cells so I stepped down for a bit , but I feel your concern sounds familiar to me | 11:35 |
| bauwser | PaulMurray: ^ | 11:35 |
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| PaulMurray | bauwser, there are a couple of steps that need to be unique - you are right about the device name - I think it trys to chose a unique one and then goes with whatever the | 11:36 |
| PaulMurray | driver says | 11:36 |
| PaulMurray | different for different drivers | 11:36 |
| bauwser | PaulMurray: so our findings showed it's pretty weirdo | 11:36 |
| bauwser | PaulMurray: like it's searchable by device_name but that field can be nullable | 11:36 |
| bauwser | which makes the lookup totally useless | 11:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/nova: doc: update threading.rst https://review.openstack.org/199013 | 11:37 |
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| bauwser | PaulMurray: so, back to the original problem, I feel that logging actions + finding one way to UC a bdm could help with the problem | 11:37 |
| PaulMurray | bauwser, using a uuid makes for a unique key that doesn't change, but some of the details have to be unique too | 11:38 |
| bauwser | PaulMurray: right, that's another problem when like 50% of that tuple can be changed on the fly by the driver | 11:38 |
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| bauwser | PaulMurray: IMHO the real problem is that lookups suck | 11:39 |
| bauwser | try finding an existing BDM is like fishing in the ocean | 11:39 |
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| PaulMurray | bauwser, you got a link for the patch you mentioned dansmith worked on? | 11:41 |
| bauwser | PaulMurray: sure, hold on | 11:41 |
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| bauwser | PaulMurray: see the series https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242602/ | 11:41 |
| PaulMurray | got it - I'll review this lot, will be relevant | 11:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Moshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: SR-IOV: Improve the vnic type check in the neutron api https://review.openstack.org/245108 | 11:42 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: mdbooth thanks :) | 11:53 |
| alex_xu | PaulMurray: also thanks :) | 11:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: are you on twitter, turns out I am not following you | 11:55 |
| bauwser | alex_xu: congrats :) | 11:56 |
| mdbooth | TIL: people who are neither teenagers nor journalists use twitter | 11:56 |
| openstackgerrit | dstepanenko proposed openstack/nova: WIP: This is 2nd part of changes according to pci-generate-stats blueprint. https://review.openstack.org/243131 | 11:56 |
| bauwser | I like twitter for many reasons :) | 11:56 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: emm... I remember I have account, but twitter is hard to access in China... | 11:56 |
| alex_xu | bauwser: hey, congrats too :) | 11:56 |
| alex_xu | sometime we said, we lived in a big LAN... | 11:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: oops, good point, I forgot about that... | 11:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: heh | 11:59 |
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| jaypipes | morning everyone. | 12:05 |
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| leakypipes | danpb: hi! so, yesterday I took a day off work. which meant I actually had time to work on os_vif ;) did you see the commits I pushed by any chance? | 12:06 |
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| leakypipes | danpb: instead of one big pull request that changed the modeling and removed all the plugins at once, I deleted each plugin after I had created a separate repository for each of the existing vif plugins. | 12:06 |
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| leakypipes | danpb: I have incorporated a bunch of the changes from your PR #3 and should have the remaining pieces merged by end of day today. | 12:07 |
| leakypipes | danpb: the only thing I didn't agree with in your PR's code was the change to pass a PluginConfig object to the constructor of each plugin instead of a dict of configuration options. I kept that as a dict of config options. | 12:08 |
| leakypipes | danpb: anyway, lemme know if you have 5-10 minutes today to chat to make sure we're all on the same page and have a good path forward. | 12:09 |
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| danpb | leakypipes: no, i've not look yet | 12:11 |
| danpb | leakypipes: how about in ~2 hours time | 12:12 |
| danpb | as i'm going to have lunch shortly | 12:12 |
| leakypipes | danpb: perfect. ttyl | 12:15 |
| leakypipes | danpb: enjoy your lunch :) | 12:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Remove --tenant suggestion for flavor-access-list https://review.openstack.org/245118 | 12:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE https://review.openstack.org/245050 | 12:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Remove flavors.get_flavor() only used in tests https://review.openstack.org/245119 | 12:29 |
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| gibi | alex_xu: hi! do you have a minute or two? I have some question around api sample testing. | 12:39 |
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| gibi | alex_xu: anyhow I write it down so you or other can react | 12:46 |
| gibi | alex_xu: I have followed you suggestion in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243562/ | 12:46 |
| gibi | alex_xu: and removed the empty body {} from the evacuate response | 12:47 |
| gibi | alex_xu: now I cannot make the api sample test pass | 12:48 |
| gibi | alex_xu: here you can see the test result http://logs.openstack.org/62/243562/5/check/gate-nova-tox-functional/71dd46e/console.html | 12:48 |
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| gibi | alex_xu: do you have an idea how to assert that there is no response body properly? | 12:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova: Manifesto for working on Tasks https://review.openstack.org/221280 | 13:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: I added a few ideas / items into that manifesto, in the hope that helps the conversation | 13:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | PaulMurray: mdbooth: I attempted to capture some of the issues we raised this morning in the above change, I suspect I missed a few things | 13:00 |
| mdbooth | johnthetubaguy: Thanks, will read. | 13:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauwser already captured most of them, most of the change is just a bit of restructuring | 13:02 |
| * johnthetubaguy goes to get some food | 13:02 | |
| sripriya | hello nova team, can you please help with this neutron/nova issue we are observing in tacker project, https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1515768 | 13:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1515768 in tacker "Instance creation fails with libvirtError: Unable to create tap device: Device or resource busy " [Undecided,New] | 13:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Johnson koil raj proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Enable disk.EnableUUID=True in vmx https://review.openstack.org/205269 | 13:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hans Lindgren proposed openstack/nova: Remove flavors.get_flavor() only used in tests https://review.openstack.org/245119 | 13:18 |
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| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: ack, will review | 13:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add enable-pci-api-function.rst https://review.openstack.org/244666 | 13:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marian Horban proposed openstack/nova: libvirt:Code refactoring https://review.openstack.org/245153 | 13:45 |
| alex_xu | gibi: you mean for unittest or function test? | 13:45 |
| alex_xu | gibi: for unittest, if that tests with controller directly, we can just assert the response is None. For functional test, we can assert response.content == "" | 13:46 |
| sdague | bauwser: hey, scheduling question for you | 13:46 |
| bauwser | sdague: sure | 13:46 |
| sdague | I'm trying to figure out why force_hosts doesn't seem to be working | 13:46 |
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| bauwser | hah, you mean respecting the filters? | 13:47 |
| bauwser | what do you mean by "not working" ? | 13:47 |
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| bauwser | sdague: ^ | 13:49 |
| sdague | bauwser: so, I created this test to ensure our multinode jobs were actually using all the nodse | 13:49 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244194/7/tempest/scenario/test_server_multinode.py,cm | 13:49 |
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| sdague | but, now that that landed, we're getting about a 50% failure rate on the grenade multinode jobs | 13:49 |
| sdague | which basically means it's not respecting it | 13:49 |
| bauwser | sec, something looks wrong to me | 13:50 |
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| bauwser | sdague: force_hosts aren't part of the hints AFAIK | 13:50 |
| bauwser | sdague: they're passed using the AZ flag for the API | 13:50 |
| gibi | alex_xu: in function test I get ValueError: No JSON object could be decoded before my assertion | 13:50 |
| sdague | bauwser: oh, so this never would have worked | 13:50 |
| sdague | bauwser: so what is the way I have to do it? | 13:51 |
| bauwser | sdague: right, lemme show you where they're set | 13:51 |
| bauwser | sdague: you should add an AZ field like 'fake_az:host:node" | 13:51 |
| bauwser | sdague: like here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py#L561-L588 | 13:51 |
| sdague | also, one of the instances where us not enforcing schema on scheduler hints sucks, because it would have been nice to have it reject me | 13:52 |
| alex_xu | gibi: do you use '_verify_response'? | 13:52 |
| bauwser | sdague: right, but IIRC there is a aP = True for the hints | 13:52 |
| sdague | ? | 13:52 |
| alex_xu | gibi: if you use it, them remove it, assert the response obj directly | 13:53 |
| bauwser | sdague: additionalProperties=True for the schema | 13:53 |
| sdague | bauwser: right, there is | 13:53 |
| sdague | because rax and others have extra filters | 13:53 |
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| bauwser | sdague: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/schemas/scheduler_hints.py#L65 | 13:53 |
| bauwser | sdague: so that's why you had no 400 | 13:53 |
| alex_xu | gibi: there is example https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/functional/api_sample_tests/test_flavor_manage.py#L65 | 13:54 |
| bauwser | sdague: so for your test, just do | 13:54 |
| gibi | alex_xu: thanks, for the example, I will check it | 13:54 |
| alex_xu | gibi: np | 13:54 |
| sdague | bauwser: yes, I know why I didn't get 400 :) | 13:54 |
| sdague | I'm just saying it's unfortunate | 13:54 |
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| bauwser | sdague: create_kwargs = { 'availability_zone': 'nova:%s' % host['host_name'] } | 13:55 |
| sdague | bauwser: gotcha, thanks much | 13:56 |
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| bauwser | sdague: tbh, I don't like that API | 13:56 |
| sdague | also, alex_xu / bauwser welcome to the core team :) | 13:56 |
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| sdague | bauwser: I agree, it's a little gross :) | 13:56 |
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| alex_xu | sdague thanks :) | 13:56 |
| bauwser | sdague: thanks | 13:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/nova: Fix paths for api-guide build https://review.openstack.org/245162 | 14:03 |
| AJaeger | johnthetubaguy, sdague: The patch above is needed to fix api-guide building and a timely review is welcome! | 14:03 |
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| sdague | AJaeger: thanks, +2 | 14:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | AJaeger: ah, looking | 14:07 |
| AJaeger | sdague: thanks - there's an infra part as well: https://review.openstack.org/245159 | 14:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | wow, I do wonder how I got that working on my box now, I guess I got lucky somehow | 14:08 |
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| AJaeger | johnthetubaguy: it works fine as is - it just does not work as expected by infra ;) | 14:08 |
| sdague | bauwser: oh, apparently something is borked with our policy and I can't do that | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | AJaeger: ah, gotcha | 14:08 |
| AJaeger | johnthetubaguy: and when annegentle followed my suggestion for directory renames, we forgot to adjust the infra scripts. | 14:08 |
| bauwser | sdague: you need admin | 14:08 |
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| sdague | bauwser: I am admin | 14:08 |
| bauwser | sec, checking policy.json | 14:09 |
| AJaeger | johnthetubaguy, sdague: I hope I fixed it so that the pieces work together now ;) | 14:09 |
| bauwser | sdague: yeah that's the only RBAC rule I know of https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/etc/nova/policy.json#L11 | 14:09 |
| sdague | bauwser: no, it's triggering the one further down | 14:09 |
| sdague | one sec | 14:09 |
| bauwser | snap you're right it's a v2.1 rule https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/etc/nova/policy.json#L258 | 14:10 |
| sdague | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/98af6b148e4f666cb5630b478a40331d3c133e88/etc/nova/policy.json#L258 | 14:10 |
| AJaeger | johnthetubaguy: if it still fails, ping me and I'll dig into it again ;) | 14:10 |
| bauwser | I was looking at the old v2.0 one | 14:10 |
| bauwser | sdague: so yeah see https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/etc/nova/policy.json#L258 is still admin | 14:10 |
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| bauwser | sdague: I don't honestly see what could be wrong :/ | 14:12 |
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| andrearosa | can a blueprint have more than one spec? | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | AJaeger: cool, thanks for digging | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | andrearosa: not really | 14:13 |
| andrearosa | johnthetubaguy: ok, thanks | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | andrearosa: I say that mostly because it makes tracking them both hard, and we haven't spotted when that makes sense | 14:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | andrearosa: if you get the spec merged I generally automatically create the blueprint and approve it, so there shouldn't be overhead in that sense | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | by automatically, I mean, manually | 14:14 |
| sdague | bauwser: hmmm maybe there is something odd about the tempest handling here | 14:14 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/nova: Claims: fix log message https://review.openstack.org/240706 | 14:14 |
| bauwser | sdague: what is the output ? 403 ? | 14:15 |
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| sdague | yeh | 14:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: use osinfo when configuring network model https://review.openstack.org/149627 | 14:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: use osinfo when configuring the disk bus https://review.openstack.org/149628 | 14:16 |
| sdague | Body: {"forbidden": {"message": "Policy doesn't allow os_compute_api:servers:create:forced_host to be performed.", "code": 403}} | 14:16 |
| sdague | 14:16 | |
| sdague | ok, I'll dig deeper, I think something isn't right on the tempest infrastructure | 14:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Diane Fleming proposed openstack/nova: Fix the bug of "Error spelling of 'explicitely'" https://review.openstack.org/232827 | 14:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marian Horban proposed openstack/nova: Avoid the dual-naming confusion https://review.openstack.org/245175 | 14:19 |
| bauwser | sdague: yeah it's weird to me | 14:19 |
| sdague | yeh, so I think the issue is there is some assumptions in tempest about admin / non-admin actions | 14:20 |
| sdague | and I'm going to have to unwind the roles there | 14:20 |
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| bauwser | sdague: well, you need is_admin set in the context IIUC | 14:20 |
| bauwser | because of https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/98af6b148e4f666cb5630b478a40331d3c133e88/etc/nova/policy.json#L92 | 14:21 |
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| * dansmith bows to bauwser | 14:25 | |
| dansmith | I, for one, welcome our new cheesy overlords | 14:25 |
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| * bauwser bows to superdan for all the help he provided | 14:26 | |
| bauwser | good news is, I could bring some cheese for the midcycle #yummy #teaser | 14:26 |
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| superdan | heh, unless it's cheddar I'll probably have to pass :) | 14:26 |
| superdan | I am weak on real cheeses | 14:26 |
| bauwser | :) | 14:27 |
| andrearosa | bauwser: we are happy even if you bring some bottles of champagne | 14:27 |
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| superdan | as long as it's from california | 14:28 |
| bauwser | andrearosa: I wasn't expecting to check-in my baggage, shall I ? :D | 14:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: objects: added 'os_secure_boot' property to ImageMetaProps object https://review.openstack.org/237593 | 14:28 |
| bauwser | champagne isn't local, I should bring Chartreuse instead | 14:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Remove onSharedStorage from evacuate API https://review.openstack.org/243562 | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: thats the stuff with strange spices in it? | 14:29 |
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| bauwser | johnthetubaguy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartreuse_%28liqueur%29 | 14:29 |
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| * andrearosa googling for Chartreuse | 14:30 | |
| gibi | alex_xu: thanks for suggestion, it works now :) | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauwser: yeah, just on that page now :) | 14:30 |
| danpb | leakypipes: i'm free whenever you are | 14:31 |
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| leakypipes | danpb: cool. hangout work for you? | 14:37 |
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| danpb | ah, you want todo video chat, one sec | 14:38 |
| sripriya | vladikr: ping | 14:38 |
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| leakypipes | danpb: cool, thx. | 14:38 |
| vladikr | sripriya, pong | 14:39 |
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| sripriya | vladikr: i have raised this bug in nova https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1515768 which i would request you to please take a look. this was raised based on discussion we had during nova summit | 14:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1515768 in tacker "Instance creation fails with libvirtError: Unable to create tap device: Device or resource busy " [Undecided,New] | 14:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added method is_supported to check API microversions https://review.openstack.org/240218 | 14:41 |
| vladikr | sripriya, sure, np | 14:41 |
| sripriya | vladikr: thank you | 14:41 |
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| leakypipes | danpb: https://hangouts.google.com/call/khcrwizg2etvpfi6rxwona47eia when you're ready. | 14:44 |
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| mhorban_ | Hi johnthetubaguy, sdague , I want to discuss BP "Move WSGI functionality from nova into oslo.services" and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219248/ . | 14:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE https://review.openstack.org/245050 | 15:02 |
| mhorban_ | @johnthetubaguy, @sdague: I fixed oslo.service bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.service/+bug/1446583 and also added logger name as a parameter into oslo_service.wsgi.Server(). Are there any other stoppers of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237588/ ? | 15:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1446583 in oslo.service "services no longer reliably stop in stable/liberty / master" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Marian Horban (mhorban) | 15:06 |
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| sdague | mhorban_: is that released? | 15:07 |
| sdague | if so we should remove the work around in devstack for the double kill first | 15:08 |
| dims_ | sdague : ETA monday | 15:08 |
| sdague | ok, so we should get that released | 15:08 |
| sdague | revert the work arounds | 15:08 |
| dims_ | sdague ack | 15:08 |
| sdague | ensure it's stable | 15:08 |
| sdague | so give it a week | 15:08 |
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| sdague | then we can progress on replacing the rest of the nova bits with oslo.service | 15:08 |
| sdague | but I want to make sure that bug is fully resolved before we do that | 15:09 |
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| mhorban_ | @sdague: There is one more review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238983/ . It configures graceful_shutdown_timeout option for openstack services. | 15:09 |
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| sdague | mhorban_: ok, cool | 15:09 |
| sdague | what's the default set to? | 15:10 |
| dims_ | mhorban_ that needs a release too | 15:10 |
| sdague | dims_: that's a devstack change | 15:10 |
| mhorban_ | @sdague: Could you please look at this? | 15:10 |
| sdague | mhorban_: yeh, I'm looking at that patch | 15:10 |
| sdague | mhorban_: what's the oslo.service baked in default | 15:10 |
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| dims_ | sdague right, it depends on oslo.service config option which is not yet released | 15:11 |
| rmart04 | Hi Guys, Does anyone know if its possible to configure NOVA to do some type of auth using libvird during live migrations. I am trying to configure TLS + Auth . Am I barking up the wrong tree here? | 15:11 |
| dims_ | if i remember right | 15:11 |
| sdague | dims_: right, but after the release | 15:11 |
| dims_ | ack | 15:11 |
| mhorban_ | sdague: default value is waiting forever. | 15:11 |
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| sdague | mhorban_: hmmm... that seems like an odd default | 15:12 |
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| sdague | it seems like a 60s default would be more reasonable | 15:12 |
| mhorban_ | sdague: And in devstack part I set it to concrete values | 15:12 |
| sdague | mhorban_: yeh, the devstack change seems fine, but I do think we should consider the default behavior is to respect kill after a fixed period of time | 15:13 |
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| sdague | because otherwise everyone is going to write init scripts with double kills in it | 15:13 |
| sdague | because it hangs some times | 15:13 |
| * dims_ nods | 15:13 | |
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| mhorban_ | sdague: I chosen it because Apache uses GracefulShutdownTimeout Directive with default value 0. It means forever.... But we can rethink and change default value in oslo.service. | 15:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/python-novaclient: Use os-client-config and keystoneauth https://review.openstack.org/245200 | 15:16 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: 60 seconds does sound more friendly, although for ever is "safer", but yeah, I suspect most folks would work around that | 15:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | I have a feeling we were going for 2 or 3 mins, from memory, if thats a useful data point | 15:17 |
| sdague | yeh, so people can set it to forever | 15:18 |
| sdague | I picked 60s mostly because systemd on my system seems to start getting violent with things on shutdown at 90s | 15:18 |
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| sdague | so it seems like it's in alignment with what out of the box linux defaults might be | 15:19 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: yeah, it feels about right, I think we got 3 mins due to average build times and guessing | 15:19 |
| sdague | sure, and it will be configurable for people | 15:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I would vote 60 seconds over forever | 15:19 |
| claudiub | johnthetubaguy: hello. There is a feature in libvirt: when you spawn a vm, it awaits a neutron notification/message before starting the vm. This assures that the vm network connection has been setup before starting the VM. We would want to add this functionality in the hyper-v driver. I suppose we need a bp for that, but do we really need a spec for it? | 15:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | claudiub: a specless blueprint sounds correct for that | 15:22 |
| claudiub | johnthetubaguy: cool, ty. :) | 15:22 |
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| claudiub | johnthetubaguy: also, can I ask for a teeny review on this patch? You have reviewed it previously: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237643/ | 15:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | claudiub: so one tiny nit around not using _LE() but I like the update, thanks for adding the warning | 15:26 |
| mhorban_ | sdague, johnthetubaguy: "Default value of graceful_shutdown_timeout is set to 60sec" https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245205/ | 15:27 |
| sdague | mhorban_: thank you | 15:29 |
| sdague | +1 | 15:29 |
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| mhorban_ | sdague, johnthetubaguy: So devstack part "Config graceful_shutdown_timeout option for services" https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238983/ could be abandoned now? | 15:32 |
| sdague | mhorban_: no, I think setting that to a shorter default for devstack is also sensible | 15:32 |
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| mhorban_ | ok | 15:32 |
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| sdague | it will speed up our tests | 15:32 |
| sdague | because we really don't care about that inflight work | 15:33 |
| gibi | hi cores! congrats for the new ones! there is a easy review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240858/ ndipanov already put +2 on it. | 15:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Bob Ball proposed openstack/nova: XenAPI: Cope with more Cinder backends https://review.openstack.org/244789 | 15:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Removes support for Hyper-V Server 2008 R2 https://review.openstack.org/237643 | 15:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: Hyper-V: adds os-win library https://review.openstack.org/212102 | 15:38 |
| sdague | gibi: so we should probably hold until the reno patch lands | 15:40 |
| sdague | because that would warrent a release note | 15:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: enginefacade: 'host_mapping' https://review.openstack.org/242035 | 15:40 |
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| sdague | bauwser: agree on that ^^^ ? | 15:42 |
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| sdague | as our release liason | 15:42 |
| bauwser | sdague: otp sorry | 15:42 |
| mriedem | gibi: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/remove-service-management-from-nova-manage isn't approved | 15:42 |
| sdague | bauwser: no prob. gibi has the deprecation of service commands for nova-manage | 15:42 |
| sdague | seems like that would be a reno add | 15:42 |
| bauwser | gibi: wfy if you wait till monday? | 15:43 |
| sdague | mriedem: ah... | 15:43 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: didn't we agree to this in tokyo? | 15:43 |
| sdague | are we just missing a procedural step on the spec / bp | 15:44 |
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| mriedem | there is no use case to hit the db directly for service resources in case n-api is down? | 15:44 |
| mriedem | that's all i really care about | 15:44 |
| sdague | is there a scenario you could imagine would be a thing there? | 15:46 |
| sdague | if the api is down, you can't start or move any computes | 15:46 |
| mriedem | not really, devil's advocate | 15:47 |
| mriedem | also asking in the operators channel | 15:47 |
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| mriedem | b/c the recent deprecation of local conductor caught some people in the ops list by surprise | 15:47 |
| sdague | sure, that's fair | 15:48 |
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| sneti | Hi all. Does anyone know if nova-manage still being supported? It was supposed to be deprecated in Folsom as per https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NovaManage. I see some of the commands like nova-manage vpn list or on flavor category are not working anymore. And they are not updated in docs. | 15:49 |
| gibi | sdague, bauwser, mriedem: thanks for the review. I will wait until Monday, and I will add a reno note for the patch | 15:49 |
| mriedem | gibi: thanks, i also posted to the ops ML | 15:49 |
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| sdague | sneti: it is supported for a small number of things, mostly you should be using novaclient | 15:50 |
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| mriedem | sneti: we removed nova-manage flavor commands in liberty or kilo i think | 15:50 |
| bauwser | gibi: coolness, lemme know if you need help for creating a reno file | 15:51 |
| gibi | mriedem: thanks for the ops mail, will check the response if any | 15:51 |
| mriedem | sneti: nova-manage commands are really only necessary for things that you need to hit the database directly | 15:51 |
| gibi | bauwser: thanks, I will find you If I need help :) | 15:51 |
| bauwser | everything is ready to land for reno, I just want to hold till Monday | 15:51 |
| gibi | actually learning this reno thing will be a nice Monday morning brain exercise :) | 15:52 |
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| sdague | yeh, all the reno patches are approved and just need to get through the gate | 15:52 |
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| sneti | sdague,mriedem: Thanks for the response. But it should be updated in the docs right. Also I'm planning to work on bug related to nova-manage floating list. Do you think we need to still support it as its already there in nova client | 15:54 |
| mriedem | sneti: depends on how extensive the fix is i guess | 15:55 |
| mriedem | if it's trivial it might be worth fixing | 15:55 |
| mriedem | if not, i'd mark the bug as won't fix | 15:55 |
| sneti | Its a small fix though: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1369955 | 15:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1369955 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Double delete a floating ip range using nova-manage command does not return not found error" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sujitha (sujitha-neti) | 15:55 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sdague: looking at the blueprint now | 15:56 |
| sneti | thanks mriedem! | 15:57 |
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| yonglihe | zzzeek , keep hit that bug... i suspect the flavor extra information will increase these hiting chance, so we hit that often but Jenkins did not, just guess. | 15:58 |
| zzzeek | yonglihe: no nova bug has been fixed yet. oslo.db just reports it better | 15:59 |
| mriedem | sneti: not really worth the time to work on it imo | 15:59 |
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| mriedem | i've marked the bug as opinion | 15:59 |
| mriedem | actually just changed that to won't fix | 15:59 |
| yonglihe | zzzeek, are you sure it's definitely nova bug? how to reproduced instead of random hit that? | 16:00 |
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| zzzeek | yonglihe: i have a test in oslo.db that illustrates it being hit. just use a _TransactionFactory without initializing it first | 16:00 |
| sneti | ok..ty :) | 16:00 |
| zzzeek | yonglihe: nova api has the requirement that configure() must be called. if you do not call it, all DB methods will raise that error | 16:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Bogott proposed openstack/nova: Prevent scheduling of instances on full hosts. https://review.openstack.org/242251 | 16:02 |
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| yonglihe | zzzeek, i get this. but why in actually testing evn, just randomly hit it? seems not that easy to identify which part of code raise this. | 16:02 |
| zzzeek | yonglihe: that I dont know. nova's test structure is pretty elaborate | 16:03 |
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| zzzeek | yonglihe: if nova puts checks for that configure() test in the get_session() and get_engine() api functions, that will make it easier | 16:03 |
| zzzeek | yonglihe: but i dont know how configure() gets called. probably part of the test fixture setup. as far as why random failures, it very likely has to do with the order in which tests are run | 16:04 |
| yonglihe | i already update this to alex_xu, your suggestion might be a possible fix | 16:04 |
| zzzeek | yonglihe: usually you can find these by running just the one failing test in total isolation, that way it doesnt steal the fixture setup of some other test | 16:04 |
| zzzeek | yonglihe: well yes, also i dont know why configure() doesnt happen as part of get_session() anyway i think the old system used to be something like this | 16:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrew Bogott proposed openstack/nova: Prevent scheduling of instances on full hosts. https://review.openstack.org/242251 | 16:05 |
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| mriedem | superdan: could explode some heads by adding choices kwarg to the virt_driver StrOpt config option, re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244782/ | 16:08 |
| mriedem | you'd get a ValueError if you specified something out of tree | 16:08 |
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| superdan | mriedem: yeah, I'd like to do that actually | 16:09 |
| superdan | was thinking about the best way to go about it | 16:09 |
| mriedem | that's one easy way | 16:09 |
| yonglihe | zzzeek, if it depending the running status, that's make sense to randomly hit it. and glad of bug 1515326 is marked high priority. | 16:09 |
| openstack | bug 1515326 in OpenStack Compute (nova) " nova.api.openstack.extensions AttributeError: '_TransactionFactory' object has no attribute '_writer_maker'" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515326 | 16:09 |
| mriedem | we also have pluggable network and identity backends | 16:09 |
| superdan | mriedem: hint: I'd +2 the shit out of that patch | 16:09 |
| mriedem | :P | 16:10 |
| mriedem | given how many out of tree drivers ibm has, i'm sure i'd get an internal email about it | 16:10 |
| superdan | heh | 16:10 |
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| mriedem | again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRpTjr4L4T4 | 16:10 |
| mriedem | it would be that | 16:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sumant Murke proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add new attribute to nova show API response https://review.openstack.org/244888 | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Remove onSharedStorage from evacuate API https://review.openstack.org/243562 | 16:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE https://review.openstack.org/245050 | 16:19 |
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| mdbooth | johnthetubaguy: Gah! I didn't realise your link was to a different revision of the same manifesto :/ | 16:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: oh, sorry, those links kill me reguarly | 16:21 |
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| mdbooth | You left my favourite paragraph in, though. | 16:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/nova: Added method is_supported to check API microversions https://review.openstack.org/240218 | 16:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add _LE to LOG.error statement in nova/service https://review.openstack.org/245226 | 16:29 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mdbooth: I am curious which one that is :) | 16:31 |
| mdbooth | johnthetubaguy: I commented on it in the previous revision :) | 16:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Simona Iuliana Toader proposed openstack/nova: objects: added 'os_secure_boot' property to ImageMetaProps object https://review.openstack.org/237593 | 16:46 |
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| dims_ | sdague mriedem : simple review (new log_dir option in oslo.reports) if you get a chance - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216917/ | 16:50 |
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| sdague | dims_: did the oslo.reports signal handler issue ever get addressed? | 16:51 |
| dims_ | sdague yes, 0.8.0 has it http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2015-November/000764.html | 16:52 |
| sdague | dims_: ok, cool. Will look in a few | 16:52 |
| dims_ | thanks Sean | 16:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add service records for nova-api services https://review.openstack.org/242206 | 16:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova: Add _LE to LOG.error statement in nova/service https://review.openstack.org/245226 | 16:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova: Deprecate nova-manage service subcommand https://review.openstack.org/240858 | 17:00 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy / superdan - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245176/ - once that lands, we can make the job vote | 17:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Sumant Murke proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add new attribute to nova show API response https://review.openstack.org/244888 | 17:10 |
| sdague | thanks again bauwser for helping me figure out the dumb thing I did | 17:10 |
| superdan | sdague: you might want to -2 gibi's patch until the reno stuff lands.. leakypipes and I just about +Wed it just now | 17:11 |
| sdague | mriedem: but now you can point them to mordred | 17:11 |
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| sdague | superdan: oh, ok. I guess my -1 got purged in the patch refresh | 17:13 |
| sdague | gibi: just ping me when the reno patch piece is added to it, and I'll approve it then. It clearly has records of plenty of +2 on it | 17:13 |
| sdague | gibi: until then keeping a -2 on it just to keep it from landing without that | 17:14 |
| superdan | sdague: right | 17:14 |
| gibi | sdague: sure, that will be the first thing on Monday for me :) | 17:14 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/245248 | 17:14 |
| superdan | sdague: does the reno thing need review? | 17:14 |
| sdague | superdan: no, it's in the gate (or maybe landed by now) | 17:15 |
| superdan | okay cool | 17:15 |
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| sdague | which is why waiting on that didn't seem very onerous | 17:15 |
| superdan | yeah | 17:15 |
| sdague | yeh, merged - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242008/ | 17:16 |
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| superdan | cool | 17:17 |
| superdan | also, just got what "reno" means | 17:17 |
| superdan | <-- super quick | 17:17 |
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| gibi | and now I'm off for the weekend. Thanks for all the support and see you on Monday | 17:18 |
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| mordred | sdague: what did I do? | 17:22 |
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| mordred | mriedem: oh - yeah. point them to me. :) | 17:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/nova: WIP - just testing https://review.openstack.org/245257 | 17:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: WIP: enginefacade: 'fixed_ip' https://review.openstack.org/240811 | 17:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavel Kholkin proposed openstack/nova: WIP: enginefacade: 'instance' https://review.openstack.org/244146 | 17:27 |
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| leakypipes | danpb: still around? | 17:33 |
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| danpb | leakypipes: hi for a short while | 17:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sven Anderson proposed openstack/nova: Fix is_volume_backed_instance() for unset image_ref https://review.openstack.org/243616 | 17:44 |
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| leakypipes | danpb: https://github.com/jaypipes/os_vif/commit/e0a6193387adc77b55623ffa6a6cd6099b2f7c3a | 17:45 |
| mriedem | sdague: i'm lost, was in a meeting, going to lunch | 17:45 |
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| danpb | leakypipes: all looks reasonable, though i wonder if dropping the min version is a good idea | 17:46 |
| ansiwen | mriedem_lunch: I addressed your comments ^^^ | 17:46 |
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| danpb | leakypipes: eg if neutron supports version 1.4 and the plugin only wants to support version 1.6....1.8 | 17:47 |
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| danpb | leakypipes: then it'd be useful for neutron to know it can't use that vif type | 17:47 |
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| leakypipes | danpb: hmm, yeah. | 17:48 |
| leakypipes | danpb: k, I will re-add the min/max | 17:48 |
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| leakypipes | danpb: done :) https://github.com/jaypipes/os_vif/pull/14 | 17:54 |
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| danpb | leakypipes: looks good | 17:55 |
| danpb | right, i'm outta here, enjoy the weekend folks.... | 17:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Laski proposed openstack/nova: Add persistence to the RequestSpec object https://review.openstack.org/211753 | 18:12 |
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| superdan | lascii: I thought the request_specs table was going to be basically just a text column, with a few columns for indexing and lookups? | 18:16 |
| superdan | lascii: like, I'm not sure why we want pci_requests to be its own column | 18:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Johnson koil raj proposed openstack/nova: VMware: Enable disk.EnableUUID=True in vmx https://review.openstack.org/205269 | 18:17 |
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| lascii | superdan: hmm, I'm not sure either at this point | 18:17 |
| lascii | it really doesn't matter from a loading/serializing pov does it | 18:18 |
| lascii | and instance_uuid and project_id would be all we need I think for lookups | 18:19 |
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| superdan | right, and it makes it easier to change things in the future and not have to go to heroic lengths to make those changes | 18:20 |
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| lascii | so why didn't you bring this up yesterday? :) | 18:21 |
| superdan | lascii: was that in the spec? | 18:22 |
| superdan | apologies if so, I was focused on the serialization bit you asked me to look at :) | 18:22 |
| lascii | it's not in the spec because it was written before the object existed, so I didn't know what the data model would look like | 18:23 |
| superdan | lascii: heh, so ... what was my indication to bring this up yesterday? | 18:24 |
| lascii | your desire to -1 as much as possible? | 18:24 |
| lascii | and cause me more work :) | 18:25 |
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| lascii | nothing really, it just conviently came up right after I finished fixing everything | 18:26 |
| superdan | lascii: no I mean.. I didn't review anything yesterday that brought up the idea | 18:26 |
| superdan | well, anyway, sorry | 18:26 |
| superdan | I really thought we were on the same page already | 18:26 |
| superdan | I had no reason to doubt :) | 18:26 |
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| lascii | I certainly appreciate the faith :) we were on the same page, I got lost during the implementation apparently | 18:28 |
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| superdan | heh | 18:31 |
| superdan | lascii: here and I thought I was being good jumping on review of the patch :) | 18:31 |
| superdan | I can not -1 it if it'll help :) | 18:31 |
| leakypipes | superdan: any ideas? http://paste.openstack.org/show/478831/ | 18:31 |
| superdan | argh, why do people use paste.o.o? | 18:32 |
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| lascii | superdan: no no, I deserve the -1. Thanks for looking at it | 18:32 |
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| superdan | leakypipes: I think that means you have some older version of something that can't support sub-dependencies or something | 18:32 |
| superdan | leakypipes: ask mriedem_lunch or dims_ | 18:32 |
| leakypipes | mriedem_lunch, dims_: seen this at all? http://paste.openstack.org/show/478831/ | 18:33 |
| superdan | lascii: okay, I'll go -1 it with hurtful insults then :D | 18:33 |
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| lascii | heh | 18:33 |
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| lascii | superdan: that wasn't hurtful at all | 18:45 |
| superdan | lascii: I know, I chickened out | 18:45 |
| lascii | next time perhaps | 18:46 |
| dims_ | leakypipes: need to check with mriedem_lunch. will try in a little bit | 18:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timofey Durakov proposed openstack/nova: DO NOT MERGE https://review.openstack.org/245050 | 18:52 |
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| bauwser | just saw the reno convo | 18:53 |
| bauwser | the stable/liberty series is there https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/liberty+topic:add-reno,n,z | 18:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladik Romanovsky proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: use osinfo when configuring the disk bus https://review.openstack.org/149628 | 18:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Add more 'actions' for server concepts doc https://review.openstack.org/236947 | 18:56 |
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| mriedem | leakypipes: that's just trunk o.vo right? | 19:06 |
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| mriedem | leakypipes: do you have new enough pip/setuptools/tox ? | 19:08 |
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| bauwser | superdan: lascii: so I wonder about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211753/28/nova/db/sqlalchemy/migrate_repo/versions/313_add_request_spec.py,cm | 19:20 |
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| bauwser | superdan: lascii: I mean, which fields could be looked up | 19:21 |
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| lascii | bauwser: it can only really be fields which aren't objects/json | 19:22 |
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| lascii | so outside of instance_uuid/project_id the only other perhaps relevant one I see is az | 19:22 |
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| bauwser | lascii: agreed, but for example, what about the flavor? | 19:23 |
| bauwser | because as an operator, I would like to know which requests were done against this flavor | 19:23 |
| bauwser | that kind of question that could come by the next years :p | 19:23 |
| lascii | we're storing a full flavor though. we would need to break out the id | 19:24 |
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| bauwser | lascii: to be clear, my position is that I agree with superdan, we should maybe just lookup the id given that instance_uuid is wrong when num_instances > 1 | 19:24 |
| bauwser | lascii: yeah I know, hence my point you see | 19:25 |
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| superdan | lascii: he means look up instances based on flavor, | 19:25 |
| superdan | but I'm not sure why you would do that in the request_specs table | 19:25 |
| bauwser | yup, the most I think, the most I feel the ID is enough | 19:25 |
| lascii | that's why I left off az, I would expect to lookup instances and then get request_spec not the other way around | 19:26 |
| bauwser | lascii: agreed | 19:26 |
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| lascii | bauwser: for num_instances = n we'll have n request_specs persisted | 19:26 |
| lascii | in order to have the instance lookup work | 19:27 |
| bauwser | lascii: oh right | 19:27 |
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| bauwser | okay, then get_by_id() is enough | 19:27 |
| bauwser | no need to get mor | 19:27 |
| bauwser | e | 19:27 |
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| lascii | bauwser: get_by_instance_uuid? or you want get_by_id as well? | 19:30 |
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| bauwser | sorry I was unclear, get_by_id *and* get_by_instance_uuid | 19:31 |
| bauwser | and only 2 fields persisted separately | 19:31 |
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| lascii | and project_id? :) | 19:31 |
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| mriedem | leakypipes: btw, tox -r -e cover worked just fine for me with o.vo | 19:33 |
| bauwser | lascii: I don't feel it necessary for the moment, right ? | 19:33 |
| bauwser | lascii: because if it would be needed, then it would be an additive change, right? | 19:33 |
| mriedem | leakypipes: i have setuptools==18.3.2 | 19:34 |
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| bauwser | lascii: while on the other hand, adding another field separately means that if we want to remove it, it becomes a bit harder | 19:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Add DiskFormat as Enum in fields https://review.openstack.org/229854 | 19:35 |
| openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/nova: Make ImageMeta:disk_format use DiskFormatField https://review.openstack.org/231460 | 19:35 |
| bauwser | lascii: but maybe I'm missing some lookups ? | 19:35 |
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| lascii | bauwser: okay, after looking again I see that project_id isn't useful right now | 19:35 |
| bauwser | lascii: do you feel looking at project_id would be needed for cellsv2? | 19:35 |
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| lascii | bauwser: it's needed for what we store to respond to API requests, which will likely be some sort of buildrequest object | 19:36 |
| lascii | bauwser: it won't be needed for the request_spec in the cell | 19:37 |
| superdan | lascii: wait, | 19:37 |
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| superdan | lascii: for cellsv2 the requestspec goes into the API database and so we need project to be able to list all current/pending instances for a project right? | 19:38 |
| superdan | or hmm, were you putting this in the cell db? | 19:38 |
| lascii | superdan: yes. but the request_spec db model will be slightly different | 19:38 |
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| lascii | we can't have a fk to instance in the api db | 19:39 |
| superdan | right, but.. | 19:39 |
| superdan | I thought the plan was to put all the reqs in the api db | 19:39 |
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| bauwser | I don't remember what superdan explained during the summit about your plan for buildrequest | 19:39 |
| bauwser | lascii: ^ | 19:39 |
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| lascii | superdan: the reqs go into the api db before scheduling, and then get moved to the cell db once the instance is created | 19:40 |
| superdan | lascii: hmm.. why do we need to do that? | 19:40 |
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| superdan | lascii: if we need to reschedule/migrate, we have to go back to the scheduler, which lives at the top level, right? | 19:40 |
| lascii | bauwser: I don't recall talking about buildrequest specifically, mostly about cell0(tm) | 19:40 |
| superdan | right, cell0 at the summit | 19:41 |
| bauwser | lascii: snap, my brain is playing with me then | 19:41 |
| bauwser | lascii: but what you just said above (api db before scheduling, then moved) helps me to remember - yeah that | 19:41 |
| lascii | superdan: we will need to go back to the top, but we'll need to grab the instance from the cell anyways and could get the reqspec. putting it into the cell is partly about keeping the api db small, and partly about having the fk | 19:42 |
| superdan | why do we need the fk? | 19:42 |
| superdan | and you mean small in terms of how much is in it and not schema I guess | 19:43 |
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| lascii | superdan: right | 19:43 |
| rawlin | Can any nova cores here take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198054/ "Disable IPv6 on bridge devices"? It has been in the queue for a while now and has a bunch of +1's | 19:43 |
| superdan | lascii: so, the fk is important why? | 19:43 |
| lascii | superdan: we don't need the fk, but it's useful. I guess I didn't see a downside to putting the reqspec in the cell | 19:43 |
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| superdan | it just seems overly complicated to me | 19:44 |
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| superdan | moving it atomically | 19:44 |
| superdan | if we fail we could end up with it in both or neither place | 19:44 |
| mriedem | why is a fk useful? | 19:44 |
| superdan | and I don't see why we ever need it at the lower level | 19:44 |
| mriedem | we never seem to use fkeys for much except breaking archive | 19:44 |
| superdan | mriedem: heh | 19:44 |
| mriedem | since we don't do cascading deletes | 19:44 |
| mriedem | i know mordred loves foreign keys though | 19:45 |
| superdan | mriedem: he only likes them because they're webscale | 19:45 |
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| lascii | we could. mainly I like it so we would clean up everything if we hard delete instances | 19:45 |
| mordred | foreign keys suck | 19:45 |
| mriedem | lascii: like just for table sorting you mean? | 19:45 |
| superdan | lascii: we have to clean up the instance mapping in the cell anyway | 19:45 |
| superdan | lascii: why not get that and the request? | 19:45 |
| mriedem | anyway, i butted into this, i'll butt out now | 19:46 |
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| mordred | FKs are great in the logical model - but make it harder to scale becaues of extra cpu processing on the thing that doesn't scale out naturally. And also, if you don't enforce them in the logical/app model, you can never shard should you nede to | 19:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova: VMware: expand support for Opaque networks https://review.openstack.org/165750 | 19:46 |
| superdan | yeah, we're talking about them in the context of sharding right now | 19:47 |
| mordred | yah. they're pretty-much evil in the context of sharding :) | 19:47 |
| lascii | mriedem: to not leave dangling data, but we can handle it in the app as well. it's just extra protection | 19:47 |
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| mriedem | ok | 19:48 |
| mriedem | i guess we can tell operators that archive not working is a feature :) | 19:48 |
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| superdan | lascii: but we can't fk the instance mapping to the instance, so we have to do manual cleanup there anyway | 19:48 |
| lascii | superdan: true | 19:48 |
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| mriedem | reminds me i need to look at fixing archive... | 19:48 |
| lascii | the big thing is that I don't want the api db to grow much on a per instance basis, keeping reqspec in the cell is my attempt at that | 19:49 |
| garyk | mriedem: thanks! i was about to push the change | 19:49 |
| lascii | we need the mapping, but I would like to not keep anything more than necessary | 19:49 |
| mriedem | garyk: i figured you'd be enjoying your friday night | 19:49 |
| superdan | lascii: yeah, that's a noble goal | 19:49 |
| garyk | thanks | 19:49 |
| superdan | lascii: if we store there we can always move it to the cell later if we determine that it's a scaling problem, right? | 19:50 |
| lascii | superdan: whenever you say 'noble' I know you're going to poo on something :) | 19:50 |
| lascii | superdan: yeah, we could | 19:50 |
| superdan | lascii: no, I'm serious.. it's a good goal to have, and one I didn't really think about.. requiring N*M bytes in your top database for every instance in your deploy | 19:50 |
| superdan | lascii: I just don't want to introduce a bunch of bugs because we're trying to do a transaction across DBs in python :) | 19:51 |
| rlrossit | yo mriedem. You opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1489531 to change over disk_format in image_meta, and I noticed there's status and container_format that could probably get changed over too. Should I open up bugs and change those over? | 19:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1489531 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "There should be a nova.objects.fields.DiskFormatEnum for the ImageMeta.disk_format field" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to jichenjc (jichenjc) | 19:51 |
| lascii | superdan: it's a fear we've had with v1, though we haven't hit the limit in the global cell yet, and we have a lot more data there than v2 will have | 19:51 |
| superdan | lascii: right | 19:51 |
| mriedem | rlrossit: if you think they are enum worthy | 19:51 |
| mriedem | sure | 19:51 |
| superdan | lascii: so _if_ we can optimize later, we should, IMHO, and I think we can here | 19:51 |
| lascii | superdan: that's fair | 19:52 |
| rlrossit | also I miss u mriedem. where you at? | 19:52 |
| mriedem | my office | 19:52 |
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| rlrossit | you too good for us or something? | 19:53 |
| lascii | superdan: you want to comment on the review? or I can | 19:53 |
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| superdan | lascii: I can | 19:53 |
| bauwser | yes please | 19:53 |
| superdan | lascii: this doesn't add the API migration, which is probably why I was confused | 19:53 |
| superdan | lascii: was that later, or punting until after cell-of-one works? | 19:54 |
| lascii | superdan: I was going to do one at a time | 19:54 |
| superdan | okay | 19:54 |
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| superdan | done | 19:57 |
| * superdan adds "was an ass multiple times" to his status notes for the day | 19:57 | |
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| mordred | superdan: wow. if I logged my activity on that task, I'd run out of harddrive space | 20:01 |
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| superdan | mordred: I know, luckily I gzip my reports so they're like 20 bytes long | 20:02 |
| superdan | "was an ass x LOTS" | 20:02 |
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| shaohe_feng1 | hi, anyone know how to do hacking check in nova. | 20:08 |
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| mriedem | shaohe_feng1: you add a rule to the nova hacking check module, or the hacking library if it's more generi | 20:09 |
| mriedem | *generic | 20:09 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/hacking/checks.py | 20:09 |
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| shaohe_feng1 | mriedem: if a new rule is added. How can I to run this rule? | 20:14 |
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| shaohe_feng1 | mriedem: how can run the hacking/checks.py? | 20:15 |
| mriedem | shaohe_feng1: have you read the guidelines at the top of that checks module? | 20:15 |
| mriedem | tox -r -e pep8 | 20:15 |
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| shaohe_feng1 | mriedem: tox -r -e pep8 also check the costom rules in ckecks? | 20:17 |
| mriedem | yeah | 20:17 |
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| shaohe_feng1 | mriedem: got it. I thought it just check pyflak and pep8. thanks. | 20:17 |
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| sdague | #success gate-grenade-dsvm-multinode is now gating nova changes. The future of partial upgrade is here. | 20:21 |
| openstackstatus | sdague: Added success to Success page | 20:21 |
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| mriedem | the future is now? | 20:25 |
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| mriedem | ouch, flights to bristol leaving monday get me in around 10am on tuesday | 20:26 |
| mtreinish | sdague: did your patch kill the old partial-ncpu job too? | 20:26 |
| sdague | mriedem: it's no longer running on master | 20:27 |
| sdague | mtreinish: ^^ | 20:27 |
| sdague | mriedem: yeh, timezone | 20:27 |
| mriedem | i hope there will be cocaine at my final destination | 20:27 |
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| mriedem | i heard PaulMurray has a connection... | 20:29 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: I was gonna say ask lxsli | 20:29 |
| mriedem | i've seen lxsli nod off at meetups too many times to know he has the goods | 20:29 |
| bauwser | mriedem: I was thinking of landing to LHR | 20:30 |
| bauwser | mriedem: BRS is very bad for getting good flights | 20:30 |
| mriedem | bauwser: train from LHR to BRS? | 20:30 |
| bauwser | mriedem: either that or coach or even car I dunno | 20:30 |
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| mtreinish | mriedem: I was thinking about renting a car, but I hadn't thought about it too much | 20:31 |
| bauwser | I'm actually waiting PaulMurray's wiki | 20:31 |
| mtreinish | it's in Jan., thats a while away | 20:31 |
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| bauwser | for 4 days, it's about 120USD | 20:31 |
| bauwser | (for a A car) | 20:31 |
| auggy | i always have a hard time driving on the wrong side of the road | 20:32 |
| bauwser | hence me seriously wondering if buses are that cool | 20:32 |
| mriedem | yeah i'd like to avoid renting a car | 20:32 |
| mriedem | in crazy backwards england | 20:32 |
| bauwser | that's doable :) | 20:32 |
| auggy | i heard even the toilet water flushes down backwards | 20:32 |
| mriedem | that's australia | 20:33 |
| mtreinish | auggy: heh, that's part of the fun. I enjoyed driving around nz on the wrong side of the road | 20:33 |
| mriedem | also weirdos | 20:33 |
| auggy | no in australia it flushes down upside down | 20:33 |
| bauwser | and manual transmission you know | 20:33 |
| mriedem | i know how to drive a stick | 20:33 |
| auggy | it's weird that many people don't these days | 20:33 |
| mriedem | although of doffm goes, he could do all the driving... | 20:33 |
| mtreinish | auggy: heh, so it flushes out of the toilet? :) | 20:34 |
| mriedem | *if | 20:34 |
| auggy | mtreinish: nope those are upside down too | 20:34 |
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| mriedem | flying into london and catching a bus or car to bristol doesn't get me there any faster | 20:36 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: it's because of the tz change. Most flights to europe from the use are like that | 20:37 |
| bauwser | yeah, the US should really use the EU TZ ! | 20:37 |
| mriedem | so maybe i fly out sunday night, get in monday and sleep until tuesday | 20:37 |
| mriedem | sleep and/or go hooligan | 20:37 |
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| lascii | bring back the concorde? | 20:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Ludovic Beliveau proposed openstack/nova: Update binding:profile for SR-IOV ports https://review.openstack.org/242573 | 20:40 |
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| auggy | delta flies direct to amsterdam from pdx | 20:40 |
| auggy | so i was thinking about hanging out there for a bit to get time adjusted hehe | 20:41 |
| mriedem | oic | 20:41 |
| auggy | airbnb or friend's sofas, haven't figured that part out yet :) | 20:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Rossiter proposed openstack/nova: Use o.vo VersionPredicateField https://review.openstack.org/245327 | 20:41 |
| auggy | there's a flight from ams to bristol i think | 20:41 |
| mriedem | my flights all connect through ams | 20:42 |
| bauwser | I hope you'll get Delta and not AF :) | 20:42 |
| * auggy will get delta because they have wide seats for her wide posterior | 20:42 | |
| bauwser | because betting on AF for January sounds a bit risky | 20:42 |
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| mtreinish | mriedem: you should just come to ny and hangout for a couple days | 20:43 |
| mtreinish | then get a direct flight from jfk | 20:43 |
| mriedem | hmmm | 20:43 |
| mriedem | "sorry honey, the thing is 4 days this time, dan has a lot to cover" | 20:43 |
| mtreinish | you can do a flight from jfk that leaves 8am and gets to lhr at 8pm | 20:44 |
| auggy | you could even try the helicopter service to jfk! | 20:44 |
| mriedem | this is becoming overly complicated | 20:44 |
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| mriedem | also noting i don't sleep on planes | 20:45 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: it could be worse, I'm thinking about going to LCA right after the midcycle :) | 20:45 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: nor do I, my normal plan is to just walk around the day I arrive to force myself to stay up until a normal sleep time | 20:45 |
| mriedem | that's what i did in paris | 20:46 |
| bauwser | or take melatonina like me :) | 20:46 |
| mriedem | i have that too | 20:47 |
| bauwser | (that's not cheese) | 20:47 |
| mriedem | i brought benadryl to paris | 20:47 |
| mriedem | i know, melatonine | 20:47 |
| mriedem | took some last night actually | 20:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Bogott proposed openstack/nova: Prevent scheduling of instances on full hosts. https://review.openstack.org/242251 | 21:04 |
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| kashyap | mtreinish: There's FOSDEM right after that, too :-) But yeah - LCA has a reputation of being a very strong technical conf. | 21:10 |
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| * kashyap should stop jumping into random topics | 21:10 | |
| mtreinish | kashyap: yeah, I thought about fosdem too | 21:11 |
| mtreinish | and its much closer | 21:11 |
| mtreinish | but, I really liked lca last year | 21:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Rossiter proposed openstack/nova: Use o.vo FlexibleBooleanField https://review.openstack.org/245336 | 21:11 |
| kashyap | mtreinish: Yeah, can imagine the appeal there | 21:12 |
| kashyap | They certainly draw in a lot of technically strong people from around the world. | 21:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Rossiter proposed openstack/nova: Use o.vo DictOfListOfStringsField https://review.openstack.org/245344 | 21:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ronald Bradford proposed openstack/nova: Simplify oslo.log setup https://review.openstack.org/245345 | 21:29 |
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| * auggy doesn't sleep on planes either | 21:39 | |
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| john5223 | any LXD people in here? | 21:43 |
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| mriedem | john5223: they don't hang out here | 21:45 |
| mriedem | zul: would be your guy though | 21:46 |
| john5223 | ah gotcha. i've tried asking in lxcontainers but not much going on in there. thanks | 21:47 |
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| mriedem | dhellmann: why do we need this on stable/liberty? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243312/ i don't see the same thing on master. | 21:56 |
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| bauwser | mriedem: I actually followed the process :) | 21:58 |
| mriedem | so the process has us create a stub on stable/liberty but not master? | 21:58 |
| bauwser | yup | 21:59 |
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| mriedem | oh i see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241322/ | 22:04 |
| mriedem | per http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-November/078301.html | 22:04 |
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| mriedem | bauwser: ok, +W | 22:06 |
| bauwser | mriedem: sorry I have to stop working now | 22:07 |
| bauwser | due to some really bad news | 22:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sumant Murke proposed openstack/nova-specs: Add new attribute to nova show API response https://review.openstack.org/244888 | 22:09 |
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| hemna | is there a way to trigger libvirt to rescan a volume (to get a new size) | 22:41 |
| hemna | I've got the os-brick work mostly done to trigger the host kernel to see the new volume size | 22:42 |
| hemna | of an attached volume | 22:42 |
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| hemna | I'm just not sure how to get the vm to see the new size | 22:42 |
| hemna | the volumes show up as virtio devices, not scsi devices | 22:42 |
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| mriedem | kashyap: ^? | 22:44 |
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| mriedem | hemna: else wait for danpb on monday morning | 22:44 |
| hemna | ok | 22:45 |
| hemna | I'm hacking around in virsh | 22:45 |
| hemna | trying to dink with stuff w/o luck | 22:45 |
| cburgess | hemna There is a block_resize command that you can use via qemu monitor. Not sure if there is another way. | 22:45 |
| hemna | looks like the target bus is set to 'virtio' not sure if hacking that to 'scsi' will make any difference. | 22:46 |
| cburgess | hemna You can control the bus with image metadata. | 22:46 |
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| hemna | this is a straight cinder volume attach at this point, not a boot volume fwiw | 22:46 |
| cburgess | hemna Yeah as I recall all disks default to whatever bus type the VM was launched with originally. | 22:48 |
| hemna | how do I change that to scsi ? | 22:48 |
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| hemna | is that a nova boot switch ? | 22:48 |
| cburgess | hemna Image metadata is the only way I think, at least only way I've every done it. | 22:49 |
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| hemna | ok I'm unfamiliar w/ that arg | 22:51 |
| cburgess | hemna OK so the code is at https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L3390 | 22:52 |
| cburgess | But to enable it... | 22:52 |
| cburgess | You need to do the following... | 22:52 |
| * cburgess tries to find the link. | 22:52 | |
| hemna | :) thanks | 22:52 |
| hemna | is this only available via boot from image ? | 22:53 |
| cburgess | Yes... you can only change the bus type at boot. So boot from volume or boot from nova ephemeral. | 22:53 |
| cburgess | Once its changed then all future devices get the same bus type. | 22:53 |
| cburgess | At least thats what I recall. | 22:54 |
| hemna | ok | 22:54 |
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| cburgess | Not finding the link I want but... the command you would use is something like... | 22:54 |
| cburgess | glance image-update --property hw_scsi_model=virtio-scsi --property hw_disk_bus=scsi <UUID> | 22:54 |
| hemna | thanks, I'll give that a shot | 22:55 |
| cburgess | That would update the image such that nova should configure it as SCSI. | 22:55 |
| hemna | if the guest sees it as a scsi device, then I can issue a scsi bus rescan inside the guest | 22:55 |
| cburgess | The image you are booting will need to support the virtio-scsi driver. | 22:55 |
| hemna | not ideal, but I can't seem to figure out how to get virt to see the new size | 22:55 |
| cburgess | hemna Like I said there is a qemu monitor command to adjust the size. Not sure if there is a proper virsh command though. | 22:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maxime Leroy proposed openstack/nova: Libvirt: Support tap plug in vhostuser vif https://review.openstack.org/245369 | 22:56 |
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| cburgess | hemna : try virsh blockresize | 22:58 |
| cburgess | I don't know if that actually resizes it or rescans it. | 22:58 |
| cburgess | hemna Link to the original commits for that functionality https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2011-November/msg01570.html | 22:59 |
| hemna | ok | 22:59 |
| hemna | thanks | 22:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Maxime Leroy proposed openstack/nova: Libvirt: Support ovs fp plug in vhostuser vif https://review.openstack.org/237680 | 23:00 |
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| hemna | cburgess, that worked! | 23:02 |
| hemna | w00t | 23:02 |
| cburgess | hemna: Which part? scsi or resize? | 23:02 |
| hemna | http://paste.openstack.org/show/478852/ | 23:03 |
| cburgess | hemna : SCORE! | 23:04 |
| hemna | This is my os-brick WIP that includes the extend-volume api change. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243776/ | 23:04 |
| hemna | looks like I need to return the new size | 23:04 |
| cburgess | Yeah seems that way. | 23:04 |
| hemna | and then nova can issues that blockresize command | 23:04 |
| cburgess | Yup | 23:04 |
| hemna | cburgess, awesome. thanks for the help | 23:05 |
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| cburgess | hemna Glad I could help on a lazy Friday afternoon | 23:05 |
| hemna | just about beer o'clock after that :) | 23:05 |
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| cburgess | indeed | 23:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Maxime Leroy proposed openstack/nova-specs: Specs to extend vhostuser type in libvirt driver to support ovs-fp https://review.openstack.org/237687 | 23:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Moshe Levi proposed openstack/nova: pci utils: fix the check if pci device is physical_function https://review.openstack.org/227160 | 23:19 |
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| cburgess | sdague ping | 23:43 |
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