Monday, 2016-07-11

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openstackgerritAradhana Singh proposed openstack/neutron: Refactoring config options for ml2 plugin drivers  https://review.openstack.org/34018700:56
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openstackgerritqinchunhua proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Replace mox.IsA  with Class IsType  https://review.openstack.org/33196501:00
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openstackgerritBin Zhou proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor usage of dict.values()[0]  https://review.openstack.org/33266101:54
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openstackgerritJianGang Weng proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Fix problem of RBAC command arguments  https://review.openstack.org/33483802:04
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openstackgerritLujin Luo proposed openstack/neutron: Add a composite unique key to floatingip table in Neutron database  https://review.openstack.org/27601802:05
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openstackgerritSongming Yan proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Use osc_lib instead of cliff  https://review.openstack.org/34020202:14
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openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack/neutron: Use from_dict to load context params  https://review.openstack.org/34020502:47
openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack/neutron: Use context from_environ to load contexts  https://review.openstack.org/34020602:47
openstackgerritIrina proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: CI jobs  https://review.openstack.org/33807502:47
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openstackgerritSongming Yan proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Use osc_lib instead of cliff  https://review.openstack.org/34020203:09
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openstackgerritbrenda_tian proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: add "reject" action to firewall rule doesn't work for postgresql  https://review.openstack.org/33796303:37
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openstackgerritYang Yu proposed openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing: Add warning for those tenant networks without address scope  https://review.openstack.org/34021304:03
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openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack/neutron: Use from_dict to load context params  https://review.openstack.org/34020504:18
openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack/neutron: Use context from_environ to load contexts  https://review.openstack.org/34020604:18
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openstackgerritItzik Brown proposed openstack/neutron: DONTMERGE: Test tempest qos  https://review.openstack.org/32753205:20
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openstackgerritYang Yu proposed openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing: Add warning for those tenant networks without address scope  https://review.openstack.org/34021305:30
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openstackgerritedan david proposed openstack/neutron: Add dhcp to Fdb extension's permitted device owners  https://review.openstack.org/33825205:37
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP]: Log full exception before retry in decorator  https://review.openstack.org/34022305:46
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Enable list-networks support paginating with provider attribute  https://review.openstack.org/21304706:30
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Check target_tenant when create rbac policy  https://review.openstack.org/24678106:30
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openstackgerritAradhana Singh proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Refactoring config options for ml2 config opts  https://review.openstack.org/34022806:46
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openstackgerritLewis proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Add connection API cases Added VPN connection API cases Related Bug: #1598652  https://review.openstack.org/33806107:11
openstackbug 1598652 in neutron "Neutron VPNaaS API CI is not enabled" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159865207:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Rename dvr portbinding functions  https://review.openstack.org/33998207:12
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slaweqakamyshnikova_: hello, I made some small changes in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338986/4 - can You maybe have a look on it today?07:37
akamyshnikova_slaweq, sure!07:38
slaweqthx07:39
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openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack/neutron: Use from_dict to load context params  https://review.openstack.org/34020508:00
openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack/neutron: Use context from_environ to load contexts  https://review.openstack.org/34020608:00
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openstackgerritRodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Minimum bandwidth support (egress)  https://review.openstack.org/31608208:00
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Testing latest u-c  https://review.openstack.org/30334608:10
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Testing latest u-c  https://review.openstack.org/30334608:10
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davidshaajo: ping09:02
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anilvenkatashihanzhang, hi shihanzhang09:10
shihanzhanganilvenkata, hi09:10
openstackgerritgecong proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: fix a spelling mistake  https://review.openstack.org/33929109:11
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anilvenkatashihanzhang, jlibosva need help with https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/159697609:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1596976 in neutron "optimize refresh firewall on ipset member update" [Medium,New] - Assigned to venkata anil (anil-venkata)09:11
anilvenkatashihanzhang, jlibosva from the bug description, do u agree with this "With ipset, when a new port is up on remote ovs agent, then on local ovs agent, only kernel ipset has to be updated and no need to update any firewall rules."09:12
shihanzhanganilvenkata, you are right09:13
anilvenkatashihanzhang, I am trying to find solution for that :) need help there09:13
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openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: DVR: handle floating IP reassociation on the same host  https://review.openstack.org/33759109:17
openstackgerritRodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add QoS egress minimum bandwidth rule to neutronclient  https://review.openstack.org/32520809:18
anilvenkatashihanzhang, jlibosva http://paste.openstack.org/show/529616/09:18
shihanzhanganilvenkata, this is my solution https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122368/09:18
shihanzhanganilvenkata, if you have other idea, pls let me know09:20
anilvenkatashihanzhang, sure, what about this http://paste.openstack.org/show/529616/09:20
shihanzhanglet me check it09:21
anilvenkatashihanzhang, the code in paste.openstack will be applied on top of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335037/09:21
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openstackgerritRodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Minimum bandwidth support (egress)  https://review.openstack.org/31608209:23
openstackgerritRodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Minimum bandwidth support (egress)  https://review.openstack.org/31608209:23
anilvenkatashihanzhang, I marked my bug as duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/137143509:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1371435 in neutron "Remove unnecessary iptables reload when L2 agent enable ipset" [Undecided,Expired]09:24
anilvenkatashihanzhang, can u please assing https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1371435 to your self09:24
anilvenkatashihanzhang, I will also go through your patch09:24
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openstackgerritbrenda_tian proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: add "reject" action to firewall rule doesn't work for postgresql  https://review.openstack.org/33796309:26
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openstackgerritvenkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: Make DVR portbinding implementation generic  https://review.openstack.org/32430209:42
derekhHi All, deploying master neutron currently isn't working, due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/160028109:43
openstackLaunchpad bug 1600281 in tripleo "ImportError: No module named api" [Critical,Triaged]09:43
derekhI've submitted a revert for the patch where the problem was introduced https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340271/09:43
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Add generic object AMQP notifier  https://review.openstack.org/33673009:44
openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Add generic object AMQP receiver  https://review.openstack.org/34027209:45
openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Load generic AMQP receiver in DHCP agent  https://review.openstack.org/34027309:45
derekhIf anybody has a chance would you mind taking a look at it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340271/09:45
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anilvenkataandreas_s, replied for comment https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340031/09:47
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andreas_sanilvenkata, replied & lunch :)09:51
anilvenkataandreas_s, thanks :) bon appetit09:52
openstackgerritJens Rosenboom proposed openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing: Remove unhelpful test of oslo.service ServiceLauncher  https://review.openstack.org/34027409:52
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openstackgerritRodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Minimum bandwidth support (egress)  https://review.openstack.org/31608209:54
fricklerHenryG: ^ this is related to a patch you did. it also seems to affect neutron stable/mitaka branch, but I'm not certain how one would cherry-pick this across repos09:54
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openstackgerritWojciech Dec proposed openstack/neutron: Add name spaces initializing interface driver. This driver enables the namespace context, which is required for among others DNSMasq to work correctly. It's intended to be used with non agent based forwarders (e.g. VPP), which attach to the interface crea  https://review.openstack.org/33726310:03
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muneebhi folks10:04
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namnhkevinbenton: I had a new information on patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333809/6 , I also reported them. When you have available time, please take a look at it. Thank you Mr.Kevin10:06
openstackgerritAnn Taraday proposed openstack/neutron: Add check that factory started in dispose  https://review.openstack.org/34028310:06
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openstackgerritReedip proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Improve help messages for NeutronClient  https://review.openstack.org/25569710:11
openstackgerritRodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Minimum bandwidth support (egress)  https://review.openstack.org/31608210:14
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openstackgerritvenkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: set vif_type in db to distributed for dvr port  https://review.openstack.org/34003110:26
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openstackgerritJens Rosenboom proposed openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing: Remove unhelpful test of oslo.service ServiceLauncher  https://review.openstack.org/34027410:39
namnhzzzeek: Hello Mr.Mike, I replied your comment, when you have time, please check it and give me some advices. Thank you! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314054/2610:40
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openstackgerritboden proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Update hacking check consumption  https://review.openstack.org/33350010:51
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openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: DVR: handle floating IP reassociation on the same host  https://review.openstack.org/33759110:57
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openstackgerritJens Rosenboom proposed openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing: WIP Create tempest plugin for neutron-dynamic-routing  https://review.openstack.org/33531011:12
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HenryGfrickler: ack11:15
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fricklerHenryG: thx, do you think that https://review.openstack.org/316331 is suitable for stable/mitaka, too? I would then simply piggypack the dr patch onto that. Currently neutron stable/mitaka unit tests are broken due to that11:33
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fricklerHenryG: the alternative would be to propose https://review.openstack.org/340274 to that branch directly11:34
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HenryGfrickler: I am not a stable maintainer so I do not know all the criteria, but I dooubt that a test-removal needs to be backported unless it fixes a known bug.11:36
fricklerHenryG: well, one could argue it fixes the bug that this test may break again on the next oslo.service update, but o.k., then I'll go propose the alternative approach first11:38
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HenryGfrickler: that may be a good enough argument11:39
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openstackgerritAnn Taraday proposed openstack/neutron: Move setting profilng to db calls in oslo.db  https://review.openstack.org/34032411:53
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akamyshnikova_HenryG, Hi! I pushed a change for oslo.db https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340260/ about moving profiling there, seems that the patch with removing get_engine will depend on this one...11:58
HenryGakamyshnikova_: awesome, thanks!11:58
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HenryGakamyshnikova_: about the api.dispose() from wsgi launcher...12:00
akamyshnikova_HenryG, I push https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340283 this is working locally12:01
HenryGakamyshnikova_: maybe we should pass a new flag to wsgi.Server._launch()12:01
HenryGakamyshnikova_: like use_db=True12:01
HenryGakamyshnikova_: and from metadata agent, call with use_db=False12:01
akamyshnikova_HenryG, but I need feedback from zzzeek if it is OK to do like this12:02
HenryGakamyshnikova_: I suspect it is not OK because you are accessing private stuff12:02
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akamyshnikova_HenryG, may be I didn't find something that could be used instead of it:)12:03
akamyshnikova_HenryG, the variant with use_db seems also good12:04
HenryGakamyshnikova_: that way neutron keeps track of which of neutron components use the db12:04
HenryGakamyshnikova_: I think that is better than more magic :)12:05
akamyshnikova_HenryG, I can push change with this variant as well, if you haven't do this yet12:06
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akamyshnikova_HenryG, actually in my first variant https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312393/1 there was such flag12:08
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openstackgerritWojciech Dec proposed openstack/neutron: Add name spaces initializing interface driver. This driver enables the namespace context, which is required for among others DNSMasq to work correctly. It's intended to be used with non agent based forwarders (e.g. VPP), which attach to the interface crea  https://review.openstack.org/33726312:10
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openstackgerritvenkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: Avoid duplicate ipset processing for security groups  https://review.openstack.org/33706412:18
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HenryGakamyshnikova_: I have not done anything yet for use_db. I have some a long meeting starting soon and will not be responding for a while.12:20
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akamyshnikova_HenryG, OK, I can check use_db variant12:23
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/33991512:31
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: remove unused LOG  https://review.openstack.org/34008712:31
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SamYapleI have a question about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310448/ . How can we deprecate the option to _not_ advertise MTU? In my case I do not want to so everyone will use thier default 150013:39
SamYapleI have a mix of vlan and vxlan networks, there is no way to ensure consistent MTU (as far as I know) with the current mechanisms in place, but disabling mtu advertisements works as desired (1500 mtu)13:40
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openstackgerritDavid Shaughnessy proposed openstack/neutron: Add object versioning to QoS DSCP + minor nits.  https://review.openstack.org/30050113:43
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openstackgerritWojciech Dec proposed openstack/neutron: Add name spaces initializing interface driver. This driver enables the namespace context, which is required for among others DNSMasq to work correctly. It's intended to be used with non agent based forwarders (e.g. VPP), which attach to the interface crea  https://review.openstack.org/33726313:47
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openstackgerritboden proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Update hacking check consumption  https://review.openstack.org/33350013:48
Sam-I-AmSamYaple: what?13:51
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SamYapleSam-I-Am: which part would you like me to explain better?13:51
Sam-I-Amthe part about the mix of networks not working right13:51
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SamYapleif i have vlan and vxlan networks, the mtu difference will be 50, i dont want that13:52
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SamYaplei want them all to be 1500. my backing network supports this (jumbo frames)13:52
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Sam-I-Amthats a hack around the old way neutron worked13:52
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sc68cal^ +113:53
SamYapleim fine with any option that allows the desired end result...13:53
Sam-I-Amyour instances on tunnel-type networks should account for tunnel overhead13:53
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Sam-I-Amwhat you're telling me is that your vxlan network has an mtu of 1550, and your not-vxlan networks have an mtu of 1500. sounds messy.13:54
Sam-I-Am(underlying networks)13:54
Sam-I-Amso whatever local_ip is bound to is 155013:54
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SamYapleim not saying that. im saying that i dont want the instances to have random mtus (from the instance perspective)13:54
Sam-I-Amthey13:54
Sam-I-Amtheyre not random13:55
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SamYaplethey are from the users perspective13:55
Sam-I-Amrandom would imply more than 2 possible values13:55
SamYapleim not going to do sementics13:56
SamYaplenon-predicatable13:56
Sam-I-Amusers shouldnt even care what the mtu is13:56
Sam-I-Amthat was the problem we fixed with all those patches13:56
Sam-I-Amit should Just Work13:56
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SamYaplethe wolrd operates on 1500 mtu, i want all my instances to operate that way was well13:57
Sam-I-Amthen break your network13:57
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SamYapleim not asking for a new feature, im asking to _not_ advertise MTU to be an option13:57
SamYaplethats far from broken13:57
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SamYapleand its already implemented13:57
SamYapleits silly to impose a requirement that always advertise MTU13:57
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SamYaplei suppose ill move this conversation to the mailing list if there are no comments here. I am confused as to why anyone thinks this is an unreasonable ask13:59
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Sam-I-Ameven if you override what dhcp is sending you, all of the other virtual network interfaces along the path will use the computed mtu14:02
Sam-I-Amso you'll have 1500 for your instance, and the other end will be 145014:02
Sam-I-Amwhich doesnt work14:02
Sam-I-Amyou can try setting path_mtu to 155014:02
Sam-I-Ambut seriously, you're breaking your network14:02
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openstackgerritGenadi Chereshnya proposed openstack/neutron: Checking traffic goes through compute node for DVR env  https://review.openstack.org/34038314:02
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SamYapleSam-I-Am: i assure you im not, and thats not whats happening14:04
SamYaplesince the path_mtu is 9000, everything is fine14:04
SamYaplethere is plenty of space to send 1500 across, no matter the tunneling14:05
SamYaplebut i dont want greater than 1500 mtu on the instance, i just want 1500 mtu14:05
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SamYaplei dont want 1550 for vlan, and 1500 for vxlan, i just want 150014:05
SamYapleand thats fine if i can just disable advertisements (which I can). but i wont be able to in O14:05
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Sam-I-Amif path_mtu is 9000, dhcp should be advertising 8950 for vxlan nets14:06
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SamYapleit does, thats bad14:07
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SamYaplei dont want the intsnaces to have 8950 mtu14:07
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Sam-I-Amif it works, why not?14:08
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SamYapleit doesnt work. it breaks across common vpn configurations14:09
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SamYaplethats the issue someone just ran into in my case in the first place14:10
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SamYaplebut again, why force something on someone? why remove options?14:10
SamYapleim trying to figure out what you are opposed to here?14:10
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Sam-I-Amthe problem is, if you set the global_physnet_mtu and path_mtu options to X,Y... dhcp hands out the mtu value that works with all other network components in the chain. thus, if you override it, you're simply moving your problem somewhere else.14:11
SamYapleim not moving any problem14:11
SamYaplethere is no problem14:11
SamYapleeverything is set to 9000 mtu (or 8950 for vlxna)14:11
SamYaplei jsut want the instances to stick with 150014:12
SamYaplethere is no now issues.14:12
Sam-I-Amso... a packet comes in from the outside with an 8950 mtu and gets all the way to the instance which has a 1500 mtu. it gets dropped. now what?14:12
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openstackgerritPetrônio Carlos Bezerra proposed openstack/neutron: Image with wrong link  https://review.openstack.org/34039114:12
Sam-I-Amoutbound from the instance is fine with a smaller mtu14:12
SamYaplewhat packet would that be? nothing should be sending 8950 packets14:13
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SamYaplehighest mtu doesnt mean used mtu14:13
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Sam-I-Amif there are interfaces at 8950, theres a chance something will be that long, or at least longer than 150014:13
SamYaplenot coming from one of my instances...14:13
SamYapleso yea it should drop14:13
SamYaplejust like normal14:13
SamYaplefor all other interfaces14:14
Sam-I-Amyou probably need to 'fake' neutron into believing you have a smaller mtu... so path_mtu=1550 or something14:15
SamYaplewhich is fine excpet now vlan has 1550 mtu, and vxlan has 1500 mtu14:16
SamYaplewhich i dont want14:16
SamYaplethats not needed either, just dont advertise mtu (which is already an option)14:16
Sam-I-Ampath_mtu should override global_physnet_mtu, but just for overlay networks14:16
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SamYaplesglobal_physnet_mtu isnt used anymore right?14:17
SamYaplethere is only one way to set mtus, path_mtu14:17
Sam-I-Amno, thats the new option in mitaka14:17
Sam-I-Amsegment_mtu went away14:17
SamYapleso which two mtu options exist?14:19
SamYapleor was global just deprecated out of the ml2 group?14:20
SamYapleeven still though, you are crippling the throughput of jumbo frame networks14:21
SamYaplejust to use advertise_mtu14:21
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Sam-I-Amcrippling the throughput of jumbo frame networks how? prior to these changes, you couldnt use more than a 1500 mtu for instance. now its up to 9000.14:22
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SamYaplethe tunnel could concatenate multiple 1500 mtu packets together and send them at once14:23
SamYaplewhich I agree couldnt be done before because of the 1500 limit, hence why im happy with teh changes14:23
SamYaplei just dont want to lose the ability to disable advertising14:24
Sam-I-Amwell, imo, disabling advertising effectively breaks the work we've done to set all MTUs to sane values.14:24
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Sam-I-Amyou'll have an mtu disparity somewhere14:24
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SamYaplejust because the interface _can_ do >1500 mtu, doesnt mean it has to14:25
SamYapleand thats what you are suggesting, the virtual switch has a port that is >1500 mtu and the instance isnt using it14:25
SamYaplethats not mtu disparity14:25
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SamYaplethats common networking14:26
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SamYapleand for the record, all the work that was done is the only reason these vxlan networks can be 1500 mtu, so im very happy that its all there14:27
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Sam-I-Amthere shouldnt be changes in mtu at layer 214:28
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Sam-I-Amtheres no mechanism to handle disparities there, so packets just get dropped, leading to obscure problems14:29
SamYapleit doesnt change, and its not layer 2 concatination (i said packets not frames)14:29
SamYapleand switchports are configured for maximum allows mtu, they dont rewrite it14:29
SamYaplewe send <1500 pakets all the time14:30
Sam-I-Amsure. thats not what i'm talking about though.14:30
openstackgerritjirikotlin proposed openstack/neutron: VXLAN multicast groups in linuxbridge  https://review.openstack.org/33337914:30
Sam-I-Amif you have one side at 1500 and the other at 1550, and the 1550 side tries to send a 1550 packet to the 1500 side... what happens?14:30
SamYaplehow would that ever happen? the instances would never be talking about 1500 mtu?14:30
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SamYaples/about/above/14:31
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SamYaplethis is really common networking. switchports which can accept >1500 frames14:31
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Sam-I-Amall i can say is anytime mtu becomes complicated, it usually means someone's doing something wrong... or simply moving a potential problem somewhere else.14:40
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openstackgerritAndreas Scheuring proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Merging portbinding and distributed portbinding table  https://review.openstack.org/34041014:41
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SamYapleSam-I-Am: cutting off options is a sure way that it can't be fixed without an upstream patch. distrusting users is what the default options are for.14:43
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fricklerSamYaple: I had a similar issue and did set "physical_network_mtus = external:1500,vlan:1500" in addition to path_mtu and global_mtu, now all network have MTU=1500 again14:48
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fricklerSamYaple: see the discussion at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329047/14:50
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Sam-I-Amone of these days we need to fix the path_mtu option to use a better name14:51
Sam-I-Amthats half the confusion14:51
Sam-I-Amthe idea was we'd only have global_physnet_mtu and everything would be based off that value14:52
Sam-I-Ambut then there's a handful of corner cases that crept in14:52
SamYapleyea trying to define mtu for everyone is the problem14:52
SamYaplefrickler: let me see if thats what I need to do14:53
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Sam-I-Amwe're implementing mtu the way mtu should be implemented14:53
SamYapleok Sam-I-Am.14:53
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Sam-I-Amhaving a bunch of different mtus on a switched network is a recipe for disaster... and thats what was breaking neutron for so many releases.14:53
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SamYaplefrickler: if i read that correctly, it still limits the tunnel to non-jumbo frames, so we lose a bit of performance from concating multiple frames and sending them across, but that should be fine14:54
Sam-I-Amthere are some exceptions, but most of them require full control of both ends of any communication14:54
SamYapleSam-I-Am: and the internals are fantastic now! thanks! messing with the instances is not somethign that should be required14:54
Sam-I-Amfor most clouds, the internet is not controllable14:54
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Sam-I-Amright now, a vxlan network must terminate in a neutron router, at which point the mtu changes inside a router and all is well14:55
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fricklerSamYaple: you would have MTU=1550 on your transport network in order to get vxlan-encapsulated packets of size 1500 transported without fragmentation, if that is what you mean14:58
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SamYaplefrickler: with your suggestion and the related review im %95 sure of what you are saying. i think it will work fine, implementing it now15:00
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korzenrossella_s, upgrades meeting?15:02
rossella_skorzen, yes15:02
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jlibosvaHenryG: ZZelle hi, could you please chime in to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322024/7/neutron/tests/unit/objects/test_base.py@694 ? Is it safe to use setUpClass with testtools?15:32
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Dinesh_Bhorarmax: Hi, Could you please take a look at it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295651/16:02
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Dinesh_Bhorarmax: It was earlier given -2 by you for gate broken problem, please let know if you have any concerns about it.16:03
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Address outstanding TODO for callback event  https://review.openstack.org/33976116:44
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openstackgerritMargaret Frances proposed openstack/neutron: Generalize agent extension mechanism  https://review.openstack.org/32970117:02
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muneebHi folks17:47
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muneebI was looking into the framework and some examples for API extensions in Neutron. I'm wondering if it is also possible to extend the functionality of existing extensions?17:49
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sc68calmuneeb: we shy away from extending extensions17:52
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muneebI see.. so the right approach would be to write my own API extension in this regard?17:53
sc68calmuneeb: yes17:54
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muneebcool.. I'll try this out at my end17:54
muneebthanks for the clarification :)17:55
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regXboi@dougwig: ping ... long time no speak ...18:08
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openstackgerritLubosz Kosnik (diltram) proposed openstack/neutron: Add support for Keepalived VRRP health check  https://review.openstack.org/27354618:29
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dougwigregXboi: ack18:30
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regXboidougwig: can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337011 - there are patches to fix the API CI job waiting on it18:31
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regXboiI should say the Neutron-VPNaaS API CI job ...18:32
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openstackgerritPablo Iranzo Gómez proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Add validator to test integers  https://review.openstack.org/33723718:58
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Expand the API reference Table of Content  https://review.openstack.org/34052319:00
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ijwOh how I love arguing about MTUs19:06
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ijwSamYaple, Sam-I-Am: seriously, let's just finish the spec and be done19:07
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Sam-I-Amthere's nothing to finish. mtu should not be overly complex.19:07
SamYapleijw: i dont want to argue :( I just dont want to be forced to use dnsmasq overrides. dont remove the option advertise_mtu and im happy as a clam19:07
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ijwSamYaple: advertise_mtu will set you up a lovely 9000 MTU router that your VMs will fail to communicate with in exciting ways19:08
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ijwAnd Sam-I-Am: MTU isn't overly complex.  I gave two use cases in the email.  The 'broken PMTU' one is another, not that I like pandering to it but I've certainly seen it in action (hello GitHub)19:09
SamYapleijw: not if all instances are talking on 1500.19:09
Sam-I-Amwell, broken pmtu often leads to things that just dont work19:09
Sam-I-Amrouter thinks the sender got the message19:09
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ijwSamYaple: and turning off advertise_mtu doesn't accomplish that.  OpenStack doesn't use MTu advertisement to work out the MTU size of its router ports19:10
Sam-I-Amits a different kind of failure mode, and i can't fix stupid firewall admins who think icmp is for l33+ haxx0rs19:10
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SamYapleijw: it does accomplish that because the instances default to 150019:10
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ijwYes.  And the router doesn't.19:10
ijwSo the router can send 9000 byte packets that the VMs will drop.  Joy ensues.19:11
SamYapleijw: not if all instances are 1500 mtu19:11
ijwNo, really19:11
ijwRouters aren't an instance.  THey are19:11
SamYapleok not agruging here, please teach me19:11
ijwset up by Neutron.  They get the MTU it thinks they deserve19:12
ijwTurning off advertisement doesn't change that19:12
SamYaplei agree19:12
ijwSam-I-Am: anyway, my point was that with a settable network MTU the default behaviour is the one you like most, and the optional behaviour covers everything else.19:12
SamYaplebut when would the router send a >1500 frame to an instance if no instances send a >1500 frame?19:12
ijwDo routers talk to just instances?19:13
SamYapleno, but only instances would be listening to option 2619:13
ijwThat's not relevant19:13
SamYapleit is because only the instance will drop the >1500 byte frame19:14
ijwIf a router gets a 9000 byte packet (or for any reason wants to send a big packet of its own) then you're kind of buggered19:14
ijwBonus: metadata19:14
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ijwThe metadata server will in all likelihood send a big packet iff it has >1500 bytes to send.  Which will happen sometimes.19:14
ijwWhich leads to one of those failures that is a joy to debug.19:14
SamYaplethe instance requests the metadata doesnt it? and the RFC says that it can only reply with a the same or smaller frame, though i will admit to ignorance to the internals of the metadata hackery19:15
ijwSamYaple: which RFC did you have in mind?19:15
SamYaplethe one i was just reading and hoped you wouldnt request19:15
SamYaplemoment..19:15
SamYapleah scratch that, that was specific about vxlan stuff19:17
ijwI'm still not hearing what I'd call a good argument, either way.  You're saying 'routers will be misconfigured but it probably won't matter in any circumstance I can think of' - which seems dangerous compared with actually configuring them correctly19:17
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SamYapleim only asking for the ability to not advertise_mtu (which exists) not be removed.19:18
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ijwbecause it makes your system work, though probably not even then in every case19:18
* Sam-I-Am attaches rocket to laptop, lights, and throws out window again19:19
SamYaplemetadata works fine19:19
ijwWhat you're asking for, I think, is that your cloud supports a consistent 1500 MTU19:19
SamYaplebut i agree, all cases havent been tested19:19
ijwSam-I-Am: you *knew* you shouldn't have gotten involved19:19
SamYapleyes ijw, and i have a solution that im testing that frickler recommended that seems to work, though i have only messed with it for a while19:19
Sam-I-Amthe only workaround i can think of here is just lying to neutron about your networks actual mtu, and having it fake the calculations... but do all the math correctly.19:20
Sam-I-Amthe key here is no mtu disparities at layer 219:20
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SamYaplethat seems to be what im doing with what frickler recommended Sam-I-Am19:20
Sam-I-Ambecause they'll eventually bite you19:20
ijwSam-I-Am: the spec I wrote said to calculate the best MTU available, but accept any override smaller than that number19:20
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Sam-I-Amijw: in this case its almost opposite. vlan nets should see 1500, vxlan nets should see 1550.19:21
ijwSo the fabric will pass the packets, and the hosts all agree what they should be talking to each other19:21
ijwSam-I-Am: um.  You want to rephrase that?19:21
Sam-I-Amsetting the mtu option to 1550 would get you 1550 for vlan nets and 1500 for vxlan nets (considering 50 bytes of overhead)19:21
SamYapleijw: no he is right. to get the desired 1500 mtu in all instances, vlan networks get 1500 mtu, and vxlan get 155019:21
ijwSam-I-Am: I'm actually curious what today's code does when you configure both typedrivers, thinking about it19:22
Sam-I-Amvlan and vxlan?19:22
SamYaplethats how im configured right now with 'global_physnet_mtu = 1550' and 'physical_network_mtus = physnet1:1500' 'path_mtu = 1550'19:22
ijwSamYaple: no, that's the underlay MTU - his second comment is really where this is intended to be today (think of it with 1500-configured hosts, you'd probably get 1500 and 1450)19:23
Sam-I-Aminstances on the vlan net get global_physnet_mtu, instances on the vxlan net get global_physnet_mtu minus overhead. it works.19:23
SamYapleboth vlan and vxlan, and it appears what i want in the end19:23
Sam-I-Ami think what you're asking for here is a way to tell neutron that the underlying network just for overlays has a higher native MTU19:23
ijwSam-I-Am: no, actually I'm trying to tell Neutron that I want it to tell everything to use a smaller MTU than is actually available19:24
SamYaplepretty much. or not advertise also accomplishes that19:24
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ijwI guess that's two ways of describing the same thing19:24
SamYaplebut truthfully this seems like a painful subject for you all (and i get that). im happy with what frickler suggested for now, ill see if it has any adverse affects19:24
haleybdon't forget you need to take into account the IP overlay, IPv6 has an extra 20 bytes, I just fixed that bug :)19:24
Sam-I-Amin which case, the logic would be something like 'use global_physnet_mtu for everything unless overlay_network_mtu exists, then use that value for overlay networks'19:24
ijwWhat do you consider overlay_network_mtu to be, sorry?19:25
Sam-I-Amijw: in sam's case, 155019:25
ijwYou know how we had path_mtu and segment_mtu?19:25
SamYapleactually Sam-I-Am i think that is already implemeted in reverse19:25
ijwYou see how that's the path_mtu?19:25
SamYaplephysical_network_mtus19:26
* njohnston wonders if we should register #openstack-mtu-yakshaving so we can do this every day.19:26
Sam-I-Amnjohnston: lol yeah19:26
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regXboinjohnston: I'd +1 that19:26
ijwOnce every six months is sufficient.  My skin is already crawling19:26
Sam-I-Amijw: the theory was good, the practice was bad... i.e., not actually implemented. you can't half-implement an mtu solution.19:26
ijwSam-I-Am: yeah, I am not arguing with that at all19:27
SamYaplehere I am being happy and just wanting an option to not be removed. I think mtu is really really good in mitaka19:27
Sam-I-Amthere's also a reasonable limit to the number of corner cases worth solving without making people's heads spin that actually have sane networks, hence the focus on one option that works for 99% of the deployments out there19:27
ijwI think removing that option is probably the right thing to do, however.  And again it doesn't really do what you're asking for19:27
ijwSam-I-Am: I am the 1%19:28
SamYapleadvertising mtu is not somethign that most networks do either19:28
Sam-I-Amthe idea is taking something most operators dont grasp well and making it easy to understand/use19:28
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SamYaplei think youve all done that with everything in place today19:28
Sam-I-AmSamYaple: well, most conventional networks dont involve tunnels either, particularly tunnels that the host can't "see"19:28
SamYapleno, but mtu is still advertised on vlan non-tunnel networks too19:29
ijwSamYaple: Most networks are 1500.  1500 is default without advertising MTU.  Most networks to not advertise MTU.  That's not really an argument to not advertise MTU.19:29
Sam-I-Amyes, because nics default to 1500. so if you have a higher mtu, it needs to be set.19:29
Sam-I-Amyou can set mtus manually, its just slicker to have it transparent to the user19:29
SamYapleijw: except now vlxan networks are 1450, which is right unless you have jubboframes19:29
ijwSamYaple: I am not talking OpenStack, I'm talking your previous statement that most networks don't advertise MTU19:30
SamYaplefair enough, i jsut want that experince in my openstack cloud19:30
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Sam-I-Amby default, neutron will try to utilize the max mtu supported by your underlying network... essentially it just accounts for protocol overhead. it really doesn't care about the number itself.19:30
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ijwNo, you want a consistent 1500 MTU for your instances *and other ports, per above* within your cloud - which has very little to do with advertisement19:31
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SamYapleijw: i agree with that statement, yes.19:31
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ijwSo, coming back: as Sam-I-Am says, the current functionality makes sure your instances use the biggest MTU available, which is very desirable, but not what you're asking for.  You want to be able to override it with an MTU of your choosing (and I imagine you'd like a cross-check that the MTU will actually work).19:32
SamYapleim happy with what frickler suggested (i posted my options above). i would be happy to keep advertise_mtu option around too (lord knows there have been many dhcp client bugs with that). but im certianly not going to fight this fight. i just havent heard a reason to remove it19:33
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ijwOther than 'it doesn't do what you want'19:34
SamYapleit does somethign i dont want19:34
SamYaplethis is different19:34
ijwadvertise_mtu = off doesn't do what you want19:34
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ijwWell, no.  It does what you want.  It doesn't do what you *need*19:35
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SamYaplehonestly, i feel like we are going round and round here. so im going to get off the ride. i would prefer the option to disable option 26 without a dnsmasq override not be removed, but im not goign to convince anyone and i seem to have a workable solution19:36
SamYaplei could go into corner cases that this would help, but im not going to. thanks for all teh help (and that link frickler)19:37
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Revisit the Stadium section of the developer guide  https://review.openstack.org/33573919:50
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jmloweIs lbaas v1 usable with mitaka?20:05
dougwigjmlowe: yes20:07
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Sam-I-Amdougwig: you missed all the mtu goodness in here:)20:09
jmloweSo any hints for this ERROR neutron.service AttributeError: 'LoadBalancerPlugin' object has no attribute 'db' ?20:09
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jmloweFollowing update from Liberty to Mitaka, did I not do the db migration correctly?20:09
dougwigjmlowe: can you pastebin the full backtrace?20:10
jmloweyeah hold on20:10
dougwigand what is on the "service_plugins" line of your neutron.conf ?20:10
openstackgerritAradhana Singh proposed openstack/neutron: DHCP Auto Scheduling for Segments  https://review.openstack.org/33371620:10
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jmlowehttp://paste.openstack.org/show/529793/20:11
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dougwigblogan: ^^20:12
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dougwigthat's a new one to me. sec.20:12
jmloweservice_plugins=router,neutron_lbaas.services.loadbalancer.plugin.LoadBalancerPlugin20:12
jmlowethis is past tense of course, needed to get up and running so I punted on getting this to work last week20:12
blogandougwig, jmlowe: looking20:13
bloganjmlowe: what driver are you loading?20:13
jmlowemy primary interest is getting magnum running, the heat templates have lbaasv1 as a requirement for the time being20:13
bloganjmlowe: i bet you've loaded the lbaas v1 service plugin with a v2 driver, or vice versa20:14
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jmloweservice_provider = LOADBALANCER:Haproxy:neutron_lbaas.drivers.haproxy.plugin_driver.HaproxyOnHostPluginDriver:default20:14
jmloweis that what you mean by driver?20:14
bloganjmlowe: change that path to neutron_lbaas.services.loadbalancer.drivers.haproxy.plugin_driver.HaproxyOnHostPluginDriver20:15
bloganjmlowe: yes20:15
regXboiarmax, dougwig: on behalf of folks trying to improve the VPNaaS gate can one of you look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337011 in openstack-infra?20:15
bloganjmlowe: long history on the v2 and v1 change and the neutron lbaas being split otu of neutron...but basically neutron_lbaas.drivers are v2 drivers only, and neutron_lbaas.services.loadbalancer.drivers are v1 drivers only20:16
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jmlowenot quite right: "Invalid: Invalid service provider format"20:17
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openstackgerritAnkur proposed openstack/neutron: Neutron Feature Classification  https://review.openstack.org/31819220:21
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bloganjmlowe: could you paste your service_providers line again?20:22
bloganservice_provider20:22
jmloweservice_provider = neutron_lbaas.services.loadbalancer.drivers.haproxy.plugin_driver.HaproxyOnHostPluginDriver20:23
bloganjmlowe: nah i mean to keep the LOADBALANCER:Haproxy piece soo20:23
bloganservice_provider = LOADBALANCER:Haproxy:neutron_lbaas.services.loadbalancer.drivers.haproxy.plugin_driver.HaproxyOnHostPluginDriver:default20:23
jmloweah, ok20:23
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openstackgerritPablo Iranzo Gómez proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Add validator to test integers  https://review.openstack.org/33723720:33
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g3ekhello, I have a question about policies in neutron. Which policy rule make the right to a tenant or admin to access security group? Can't find any information on that20:39
openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP]: Log full exception before retry in decorator  https://review.openstack.org/34022320:39
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armaxregXboi: yes20:44
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regXboiarmax: ack20:45
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armaxregXboi: what’s the difference between the full and the api job?20:46
armaxregXboi: do you see one long term?20:46
regXboiarmax: you mean other than the full job doesn't actually test vpnaas?20:46
armaxregXboi: not at all?20:46
regXboinot at all20:46
g3ekBy chance, any neutron policy expert is here?20:47
regXboiit doesn't even install the vpn agent20:47
regXboiit's just running stock L320:47
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regXboiarmax: I've filed a bug for that and sent amuller some email to try and understand how to go about fixing said issue20:48
regXboibut right now, I'd like something for the api (in the meantime)20:48
armaxregXboi: ok20:48
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armaxI can see that job could be used for scenario testing20:48
openstackgerritboden proposed openstack/neutron-lib: Update contributing doc  https://review.openstack.org/33133820:49
armaxbut as of right now we might as well kill it20:49
regXboisigh - yeah20:49
amullerregXboi: I'm in an event for the upcoming 2 days :(20:49
regXboiamuller: that's fine - answer the email when you get a chance20:50
* regXboi will need two days + to find the extent of the rot20:50
armaxregXboi: btw in neutron we stopped having an api tox target like vpnaas does20:51
armaxbecause running tests like that it’s incredibly brittle20:51
regXboiarmax: ack - but I'll take brittle over nothing?20:51
armaxregXboi: not really20:51
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armaxbrittle hurts20:51
armaxnothing doesn't20:51
armax:)20:51
armaxmy point is20:51
regXboiarmax: well... nothing hurts later20:51
armaxhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/337011/20:52
armaxcould be switched to adopting the tempest plugin mechanics20:52
armaxthe change in the vpnaas tree is rather trivial20:52
regXboithat's a fair comment to make20:52
armaxto accommodate the switch20:52
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armaxregXboi: yes, that’s what would be my suggestion20:52
armaxregXboi: there20:52
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armaxregXboi: since we’re targeting the project-config repo20:53
regXboiarmax: please say that and I'll push the folks working it to get that done20:53
armaxregXboi: might as well do it the right way20:53
armaxregXboi: yes20:53
armaxregXboi: I’ll provide a useful pointer20:53
armaxregXboi: ;)20:53
regXboithx :)20:53
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jmloweso turning on lbaasv1 did bad things, my agents were timing out left and right20:53
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openstackgerritAradhana Singh proposed openstack/neutron: Refactoring config options for l3 agent keepalived_state_change  https://review.openstack.org/33855920:56
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openstackgerritRyan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: Fill in trunk_details on port resource  https://review.openstack.org/33470020:58
Sam-I-Amalmost meeterating time20:59
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Extension to tell when deferred binding is in effect  https://review.openstack.org/32922121:21
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openstackgerritHenry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron: Add check that factory started in dispose  https://review.openstack.org/34028321:29
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openstackgerritAradhana Singh proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Updating imports as l3 agent config options are being refactored  https://review.openstack.org/33917721:30
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openstackgerritboden proposed openstack/neutron-lib: devref for public API pydoc  https://review.openstack.org/34058021:37
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-neutronclient: HAProxy uses milliseconds for its timeout values.  https://review.openstack.org/33968521:48
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ihrachysarmax: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/099083.html22:01
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armaxihrachys: attaboy22:02
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armaxihrachys: thanks22:07
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: WIP DHCP agents should not set default route to a subnet on another segment  https://review.openstack.org/34059222:09
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ihrachysarmax: btw to follow up on grenade plan, linuxbridge job: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336793/22:12
ihrachysI suspect they wait for your +22:12
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openstackgerritManjeet Singh Bhatia proposed openstack/neutron: Security group call back need cascading delete the related rules  https://review.openstack.org/29442322:18
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openstackgerritManjeet Singh Bhatia proposed openstack/neutron: Security group call back need cascading delete the related rules  https://review.openstack.org/29442322:47
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openstackgerritTakashi NATSUME proposed openstack/neutron: Add a hacking rule for string interpolation at logging  https://review.openstack.org/33926822:54
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Emit registry events on subport addition/removal  https://review.openstack.org/33926623:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-lib: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/33991423:13
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-lib: Expand the API reference Table of Content  https://review.openstack.org/34052323:13
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP]: Catch errors in DHCP agent binding  https://review.openstack.org/33922623:15
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carl_baldwinkevinbenton: ping23:24
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carl_baldwinkevinbenton: Here's a follow up to your segment host mapping update patch:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33464823:24
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