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| davidsha | vikram : ping | 08:22 |
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| ihrachys | ajo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236210/ that would allow us to eventually enforce rule types on API side | 08:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Reedip proposed openstack/neutron-specs: [WIP]RFE Update for Firewall Rule Scheduling https://review.openstack.org/236840 | 08:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: DVR: notify specific agent when deleting floating ip https://review.openstack.org/231455 | 08:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/235649 | 08:42 |
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| mhickey | Good morning. Anyone core for neutron that could review a patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234991/ | 08:48 |
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| ihrachys | rossella_s: hey! will be come to Tokyo? | 08:59 |
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| ihrachys | will *you* | 08:59 |
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| rossella_s | ihrachys, yes! | 09:00 |
| ihrachys | cooool | 09:00 |
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| ihrachys | rossella_s: I think it's worth having some upgrade gathering e.g. on Fri to sit and talk about what we can achieve upgrade wise in M, and who is going to help with it. | 09:00 |
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| ihrachys | it's so huge a topic that it may need some coordination | 09:01 |
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| rossella_s | ihrachys, I totally agree | 09:02 |
| rossella_s | ihrachys, I am in...let's pick a slot and do that :) | 09:02 |
| ihrachys | rossella_s: ok, I will think of it a bit more and will get back to you today :) | 09:03 |
| vikasc | tfukushima, ping | 09:03 |
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| rossella_s | ihrachys great! talk you later then | 09:03 |
| amotoki | vikram: i saw you ping-ed me several hours ago | 09:04 |
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| mhickey | ihrachys: sure. thanks for the feedback. :) | 09:19 |
| ihrachys | mhickey: I have ~20 patches on review, + ~15 backports now :) | 09:19 |
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| mhickey | ihrachys: 'newbie' enthusiasm! :) | 09:21 |
| ihrachys | mhickey: that's fine, you will get used to local slow pace :) [slow per patch; overall it's quick lively] | 09:21 |
| kevinbenton | mhickey: one suggestion and then i will +2 | 09:22 |
| mhickey | kevinbenton: sure, shoot.. | 09:22 |
| kevinbenton | mhickey: it's in the patch :) | 09:22 |
| mhickey | kevinbenton: ok, let me look... | 09:23 |
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| mhickey | kevinbenton: thanks for review comments. WRT, conf value, you would like 'conf.interface_driver' value dumped as before? | 09:27 |
| kevinbenton | mhickey: yep | 09:27 |
| kevinbenton | mhickey: i'm sure it will show up somewhere in the tracebacks, but it sucks to dig through those for a user | 09:27 |
| mhickey | kevinbenton: ok. WRT blank line deleted. Is the line necessary as the if statement is an import line also and not really start of the code logic? | 09:28 |
| kevinbenton | mhickey: no, it's certainly not necessary, but changing whitespace in a patch is something we try to avoid because it makes the change look bigger than it is and can cause merge conflicts later | 09:30 |
| kevinbenton | mhickey: this one looks pretty benign, but it's a good habit to avoid doing that | 09:30 |
| mhickey | kevinbenton: sure, I will return it. Ok, I will update the patch. Thanks. | 09:31 |
| ihrachys | mhickey: here in openstack, we like to shave yaks and pick nits | 09:31 |
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| mhickey | ihrachys: not a bother. I am relaxed about the small things! :) | 09:32 |
| ihrachys | mhickey: that's the right approach if you want to work with the community :) | 09:32 |
| kevinbenton | mhickey: are you updating it now or will it be later? | 09:34 |
| kevinbenton | mhickey: i'm going to head to bed soon so if it will be shortly i will wait | 09:34 |
| mhickey | ihrachys: BTW, thanks for guiding me through this bug. It has lots of interesting parts which tough different parts of the code. | 09:35 |
| mhickey | kevinbenton: sure. working on it now. it might be in before you go but I understand. | 09:35 |
| kevinbenton | mhickey: no prob. i'll be up for another half hour or so | 09:35 |
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| mhickey | ihrachys, kevinbenton: should I also dump the ImportError as done previously? | 09:43 |
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| kevinbenton | mhickey: i think that is already logged in the internal LOG.error statements in your new function | 09:44 |
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| ihrachys | mhickey: yes, it's included in LOG.error message because we pass exc_info | 09:44 |
| mhickey | kevinbenton: it is; just wanted to make sure. thanks | 09:44 |
| kevinbenton | mhickey: no prob | 09:45 |
| mhickey | ihrachys: you too, thanks | 09:45 |
| ihrachys | mhickey: yes meaning 'no, don't dump the exception explicitly thru format string', sorry | 09:45 |
| mhickey | ok :) | 09:45 |
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| kevinbenton | mhickey: right, don't not do what ihrachys said ;) | 09:46 |
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| ihrachys | kevinbenton: :P | 09:48 |
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| mhickey | ihrachys: BTW, manager.py previously did not dump the plugin_provider. do still want to do it? | 09:49 |
| ihrachys | mhickey: it did not, yes. but since we touch the code (now using it for interface_driver), it can be considered in scope of the patch. | 09:50 |
| mhickey | ok | 09:50 |
| ihrachys | a follow up would work to me for me, I don't mind :) | 09:50 |
| * ihrachys 's fingers are so excited, too many 'me's | 09:51 | |
| kevinbenton | i would like to propose that the most useless log statement we emit is "Extended network dict for driver 'port_security'" | 09:51 |
| kevinbenton | #startvote | 09:51 |
| kevinbenton | o/ | 09:51 |
| kevinbenton | #endvote | 09:51 |
| kevinbenton | it is declared | 09:52 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: unanimously | 09:52 |
| kevinbenton | this is at the INFO level! | 09:52 |
| kevinbenton | i will handle this | 09:52 |
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| ihrachys | kevinbenton: reminds me of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217188/2 | 09:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: L3 agent: sync routers by chunks to prevent fatal memory consumption https://review.openstack.org/234067 | 09:54 |
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| kevinbenton | ihrachys: yeah | 09:56 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: ooh, someone beat me to it | 09:56 |
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| ihrachys | kevinbenton: link? | 09:57 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: ah, i'm quite out of date. this one turned it into the one that yours removed: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/commit/08f0bb9ce5c821b421394d2c7d9186f40c417f7d | 09:58 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: ah right, in scope of qos I think | 09:59 |
| ihrachys | you're freaking outdated then ;) | 09:59 |
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| kevinbenton | ihrachys: busy profiling some earlier code in the cycle | 10:04 |
| mhickey | kevinbenton: testing in progress | 10:04 |
| davidsha_ | Hi | 10:04 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: a patch to move it to .debug at least could go as stable only | 10:04 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: good point | 10:05 |
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| davidsha_ | quick question, which file in neutron has the python command line interface? have been trying to use grep to find the commands but no luck. | 10:07 |
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| davidsha_ | I've heard testing changes is best done using the REST API, would that be correct? | 10:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Add tempest scenario tests https://review.openstack.org/236890 | 10:20 |
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| gongysh | ajo: ping | 10:30 |
| ajo | hi gildub | 10:30 |
| kevinbenton | davidsha_: the cli is in python-neutronclient | 10:30 |
| ajo | sorry | 10:30 |
| ajo | hi gongysh | 10:30 |
| kevinbenton | separate repo | 10:30 |
| gongysh | ajo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217092/ | 10:30 |
| kevinbenton | davidsha_: type of testing you want depends on the change | 10:30 |
| gildub | ajo, hi | 10:30 |
| davidsha_ | kevinbenton: thanks! | 10:30 |
| ajo | hi gildub :D | 10:30 |
| gongysh | ajo: I have updated the patch. | 10:30 |
| gildub | ajo, what's up | 10:31 |
| ajo | ah, thanks gongysh | 10:31 |
| ajo | I will re-read | 10:31 |
| gongysh | ajo: thanks | 10:31 |
| ajo | sorry gildub , <TAB> expanded to you instead of gongysh , my fault | 10:31 |
| gildub | ajo, no worries :) | 10:31 |
| gongysh | ajo, lol | 10:31 |
| davidsha_ | kevinbenton: I was looking at extending the qos api, just wanted to see if I could visually confirm I added things in the client. | 10:32 |
| amotoki | stable/liberty branch still need to be apporved by *-milestone.... not *-stable team... | 10:33 |
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| amotoki | whom can i ask? | 10:33 |
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| gongysh | amotoki, in #openstack-infra | 10:34 |
| amotoki | gongysh: thanks. will go there. | 10:34 |
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| gongysh | ajo, thanks. I has never known 'TAB' can work in my xchat client before. | 10:36 |
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| ajo | lol gongysh , very useful, but dangerous ;D | 10:36 |
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| davidsha_ | ajo: ping | 10:38 |
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| mhickey | kevinbenton: sorry, having some issues at the moment. Will try and get it in later today. | 10:45 |
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| mhickey | kevinbenton: thanks for the feedback. | 10:46 |
| kevinbenton | mhickey: ack | 10:46 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-neutron-core-extensibility | 10:47 |
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| ihrachys | too many text, so please trim where applicable | 10:47 |
| ihrachys | (note our session is below) | 10:47 |
| ihrachys | the green text | 10:47 |
| ihrachys | there is already too much stuff in there, so don't hesitate to cut wildly | 10:47 |
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| amotoki | ihrachys: is it better to split the etherpad page into two pages per session? | 11:05 |
| ihrachys | amotoki: I don't know the rationale of having it mixed, but I leave it up to armax to decide | 11:05 |
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| ihrachys | amotoki: maybe it's assumed discussion is interrelated | 11:06 |
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| ihrachys | (it really is in some ways) | 11:06 |
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| amotoki | ihrachys: sounds fair. | 11:07 |
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| mhickey | ihrachys: Hey Getting different behaviour when 'load_class_by_alias_or_classname' called for 'ore_plugin' nd 'nterface_driver'for incorrect configuration. | 11:14 |
| dtantsur | hello, network overlords :) the ironic gate died this morning: the deployed instances do not get DHCP | 11:14 |
| dtantsur | do you think some neutron change could break it? e.g. https://github.com/openstack/neutron/commit/52e91f48f2327b47f126893f9cb12f153380a9a6 ? | 11:15 |
| ihrachys | dtantsur: link :) | 11:15 |
| mhickey | *core_plugin and interface_driver* | 11:15 |
| ihrachys | aye ok looking | 11:15 |
| dtantsur | example of a failure: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234186/ | 11:15 |
| ihrachys | mhickey: what do you mean? | 11:15 |
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| mhickey | ihrachys: so I set the configs in both instances to wrong settings to test the trace and error messages. However this is how it working: http://paste.openstack.org/show/476666/ | 11:16 |
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| ihrachys | mhickey: I suspect the culprit is in the format string you have for load_interface_driver ImportError exception handler, but to be sure I would need to see the code | 11:19 |
| dtantsur | I guess no ironic jobs run on neutron, right? | 11:19 |
| ihrachys | dtantsur: no, we don't gate on ironic. | 11:19 |
| mhickey | ihrachys: ok, thanks for the tip. I will take a look after lunch. | 11:20 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: let me try to understand the scenario first. so at 10:58:10,922, you add a FIP to an instance, and then attempt ssh login for the FIP. and it does not work. correct? | 11:24 |
| dtantsur | ihrachys, to my best understanding, yes | 11:25 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: ok, there is indeed seems to be no router update notification around that time | 11:25 |
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| ihrachys | which could mean server forgot to notify, hence FIP not pushed into router namespace, hence no route to host | 11:26 |
| ihrachys | now let me read the patch :) | 11:26 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: indeed we hit the debug log message from the patch for the FIP notification: http://logs.openstack.org/86/234186/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-ironic-pxe_ssh/317fd7e/logs/screen-q-svc.txt.gz#_2015-10-19_10_58_10_564 | 11:31 |
| dtantsur | oh, I see | 11:31 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: is it consistent? 100% failure rate? | 11:33 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: hm, seems like while it's triggered, it is probably not the issue. because all it does it silencing the exception raised by _get_router(), which should have been raised before. | 11:34 |
| ihrachys | the author referred to some race condition but I fail to find details | 11:35 |
| dtantsur | ihrachys, all patches this morning failed for us | 11:35 |
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| dtantsur | ihrachys, but this patch does "return" after this warning, no? | 11:36 |
| ihrachys | dtantsur: without that exception handler, it would raise RouterNotFound. | 11:36 |
| ihrachys | which means it would still not reach the notification code | 11:36 |
| dtantsur | right, not sure how it used to work :) | 11:37 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: is router dvr or legacy? | 11:37 |
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| dtantsur | no idea, sorry | 11:38 |
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| enikanorov_ | yamamoto: hi, replied to your commet in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233605/3/neutron/neutron_plugin_base_v2.py | 11:45 |
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| korzen | :ihrachys :rossella_s I have put the upgrades on agenda for Friday meeting: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-neutron-unplugged-track | 11:49 |
| garyk | ihrachys: we still supporting stable/liberyt? https://review.openstack.org/236886 - i think not | 11:49 |
| ihrachys | korzen: thanks | 11:49 |
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| ihrachys | garyk: wat? | 11:50 |
| ihrachys | garyk: how is it possible if it's the latest stable branch? | 11:50 |
| ihrachys | released like days ago | 11:50 |
| garyk | ihrachys: oops wrong patch - give me a sec | 11:50 |
| garyk | ihrachys: oops my bad i thought it was icehouse (not enough sleep) | 11:52 |
| ihrachys | garyk: ok cool :) | 11:52 |
| ihrachys | there is no icehouse branch anymore, so no way it's sent there | 11:52 |
| ihrachys | there is only icehouse-eol tag now | 11:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: L3 agent: sync routers by chunks to prevent fatal memory consumption https://review.openstack.org/234067 | 11:57 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: ok, I suspect your enemy is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231031/5/neutron/db/l3_db.py | 11:58 |
| ihrachys | obondarev: are you around to talk about ^ ? can be culprit of ironic gate breakage | 11:58 |
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| rossella_s | korzen, thanks! | 11:59 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: that said, I am in darkness on why we even get NotFound from db for the router. | 12:03 |
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| dtantsur | sigh.. | 12:04 |
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| dtantsur | ihrachys, I've reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1507558 to track this issue | 12:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1507558 in Ironic "Ironic gate breakage: deployed VM's do not get DHCP" [Critical,Confirmed] | 12:07 |
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| dasm | hello all | 12:08 |
| dasm | i've grabbed one low-hanging bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1119119 | 12:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1119119 in neutron "firewall driver is an abstract class not using abstractmethod" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Dariusz Smigiel (smigiel-dariusz) | 12:08 |
| dasm | and now i'm wondering, how to solve it :) | 12:09 |
| dasm | simplest solution is to add abstractmethod to all "NotImplementedError" methods, but then, 165 tests are failing (missing implementation of some methods) | 12:09 |
| dasm | so, the question to neutron community: i can update all the tests to have them passing, but i do not know, if there is any other usage of FirewallDriver without overwritten methods (not implemented) | 12:10 |
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| dasm | any ideas? thoughts? | 12:10 |
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| enikanorov_ | dasm: multiple tests failing for a simple change usually means that a simple change could fix them all at once | 12:14 |
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| dasm | enikanorov_: yep, this is one (or two) places to fix them. but previous patchset commented by mark mcclain suggested to just remove abc meta from class and leave everything like it is. | 12:16 |
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| dasm | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21495/2 | 12:16 |
| yamamoto | enikanorov_: replied on review | 12:16 |
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| dasm | enikanorov_: i'll go with patchset, so (hopefully) someone will comment on it. | 12:18 |
| ihrachys | dtantsur: thanks! | 12:18 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: I am keen to revert both patches that ended up with you broken | 12:25 |
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| dtantsur | ihrachys, maybe an option... if you do so, lemme know, I'll create a Depends-On patch in ironic to check if it really fixes the problem | 12:25 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: yeah, that would be the plan. actually there may be an experimental job that we can trigger | 12:26 |
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| ihrachys | I believe for tripleo we had one, so maybe we have smth for ironic? | 12:26 |
| dtantsur | ihrachys, that's another topic: I'd really like to have at least one non-voting ironic job on neutron | 12:26 |
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| dtantsur | ihrachys, no, not experimental jobs for ironic... | 12:28 |
| ihrachys | dtantsur: ack. | 12:28 |
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| dtantsur | ihrachys, do you think I should bring it to the ML, or just raise a review on project-config and ask folks here to +1 it? | 12:29 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: I think it's better to ask folks first. we'll have a meeting tomorrow, we can add it into agenda. | 12:30 |
| dtantsur | ihrachys, what time is the meeting? | 12:30 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: 16:00 Brno time | 12:31 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 12:32 |
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| * dtantsur adds an item | 12:32 | |
| dtantsur | ihrachys, btw this page says: Mondays at 2100 UTC (#openstack-meeting) and Tuesdays at 1400 UTC (#openstack-meeting). | 12:33 |
| dtantsur | ah, right, tomorrow. go it | 12:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Haim Daniel proposed openstack/neutron: ovs_neutron_agent: display loaded extension https://review.openstack.org/227394 | 12:34 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: ok, I think the last patch only is the culprit. I believe I understand how it broke it | 12:35 |
| ihrachys | dtantsur: though the first one is probably buggy too, it's just that it took two of them to break you | 12:35 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: the first one breaks notification for a floating IP create, and the second for update. since your test does update, you were hit by the second one only | 12:36 |
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| dtantsur | hmm, I think I get it | 12:37 |
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| dtantsur | ihrachys, as to gating, I'll put up a WIP patch to project-config, I will discuss it on the meeting (if time allows) | 12:39 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: aye cool | 12:39 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: dvr/l3 agent code is such a mess I would say. neutron team should be ashamed of that, me included | 12:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | enikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Spawn dedicated rpc workers for state reports queue https://review.openstack.org/233605 | 12:40 |
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| dtantsur | ihrachys, heh, things happen :) | 12:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Revert "DVR: Notify specific agent when update floatingip" https://review.openstack.org/236955 | 12:45 |
| ihrachys | dtantsur: hopefully | 12:45 |
| ihrachys | dtantsur: ^ | 12:45 |
| dtantsur | ok, lemme propose a dummy patch checking it | 12:45 |
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| pc_m | amotoki: ping | 12:46 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: pong. let me ping you 20 mins later. | 12:47 |
| pc_m | amotoki: ok | 12:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Haim Daniel proposed openstack/neutron: ovs_neutron_agent: display loaded extensions https://review.openstack.org/227394 | 12:47 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: it's sick that such a hack like that exception handler was allowed in | 12:48 |
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| dtantsur | yeah, a bit weird | 12:49 |
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| dtantsur | ihrachys, project-config patch in question: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236964/ | 13:04 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: I have a bit of a problem with non-voting jobs: no one cares about them | 13:05 |
| dtantsur | that's bad ;) do you think I should propose it as voting/gating, and see how folks react? | 13:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Use os-client-config and keystoneauth1 in shell https://review.openstack.org/236325 | 13:06 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: that won't work either. I believe that's something to fix in neutron culturally :) | 13:06 |
| ihrachys | dtantsur: let's have discussion on the meeting tomorrow and see where it goes | 13:07 |
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| dtantsur | ok | 13:07 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: we lean towards dropping neutron-*aas jobs from neutron core gate, so I don't believe you could sell co-gating with ironic | 13:07 |
| ihrachys | at least *aas is under neutron's control. and still gets pushed out | 13:08 |
| dtantsur | interesting. well, it can be reversed: we're not under your umbrella, but we have to depend on you ;) | 13:08 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: there is a lot of stuff that depends, like tripleo or puppet modules. allowing all in neutron gate wouldn't scale | 13:09 |
| ihrachys | that said, we CAN discuss specific components | 13:09 |
| ihrachys | anyway, that''s for broader discussion, maybe on summit | 13:10 |
| dtantsur | yeah, with this big tent thing it can go wild very soon | 13:10 |
| dtantsur | and ironic is not the worst example here, ironic-inspector is in even worse position :) | 13:10 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: ping | 13:12 |
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| HenryG | ajo: rossella_s: sorry for pinging in wrong channel :( | 13:14 |
| rossella_s | HenryG, no worries | 13:14 |
| pc_m | amotoki: pong | 13:14 |
| pc_m | amotoki: Wanted to discuss 230164, if you have some time. | 13:15 |
| amotoki | pc_m: thanks for waiting. I saw your comments. | 13:15 |
| amotoki | pc_m: sure. | 13:15 |
| pc_m | amotoki: I responded to your comments, in the review. | 13:15 |
| ajo | HenryG, np :) | 13:15 |
| amotoki | pc_m: there are two points to be discussed. | 13:15 |
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| dtantsur | ihrachys, that said, even if people don't pay attention to the non-voting job, it would greatly simplify debugging gate failures for us, and also checking that a particular change fixes anything | 13:16 |
| pc_m | amotoki: Had questions on the extension and rollback. | 13:16 |
| ihrachys | dtantsur: I am with you | 13:16 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: yes. regarding the extension, i think there are important points about API. | 13:16 |
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| ihrachys | dtantsur: about people not caring: it's proved by practice: neutron team even failed to care about non-voting DVR job, that's something that we actually claim to support :) | 13:17 |
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| dtantsur | I see :) | 13:17 |
| pc_m | amotoki: In talking with salv-orlando, we were discussing to modify the existing API, but keep backward compatible. | 13:17 |
| pc_m | amotoki: using the same extension. | 13:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Romil Gupta proposed openstack/neutron: Add OVSvApp Agent in SUPPORTED_AGENT_TYPES for l2pop https://review.openstack.org/236970 | 13:17 |
| amotoki | pc_m: backward compatibility and discoverability. backward-compat looks enough in your patch. | 13:17 |
| * ihrachys probably looks like self-flagellating himself | 13:17 | |
| amotoki | pc_m: my point is about discoverability. how can API users know endpoint feature is available? this is my point. | 13:18 |
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| pc_m | amotoki: I see. Not sure how to answer that, other than endpoint groups were upstreamed first. | 13:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Romil Gupta proposed openstack/neutron: Add OVSvApp Agent in SUPPORTED_AGENT_TYPES for l2pop https://review.openstack.org/236970 | 13:19 |
| amotoki | pc_m: I have no worries about the current situation. we can add such "shim" extension once endpoint support is completed. | 13:20 |
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| obondarev | ihrachys: ping | 13:21 |
| pc_m | amotoki: endpoint support is already there. It was committed before the multiple local subnet feature was added. | 13:21 |
| amotoki | pc_m: in my understanding, endpoint groups feature has no meaning without users (like ipsec-site-conn). | 13:21 |
| pc_m | amotoki: Correct. | 13:21 |
| obondarev | ihrachys: hey, a question on bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1507558 | 13:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1507558 in neutron "Ironic gate breakage: deployed VM's do not get DHCP" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Ihar Hrachyshka (ihar-hrachyshka) | 13:21 |
| pc_m | amotoki: It was added first, as it is a foundation for the capabilities. | 13:21 |
| pc_m | amotoki: Isn't it discoverable, through its own API? | 13:22 |
| amotoki | pc_m: do you mean a user can try endpoint API to check it is supported or not? | 13:23 |
| pc_m | amotoki: yeah | 13:23 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: it is not helpful in case where client library determines what features are available. | 13:24 |
| amotoki | pc_m: horizon is one of such libraries. | 13:24 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: this is one of the reason we expose extension-list in API and the API microversioning is being discussed. | 13:25 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: I don't think you need to add some extension in your patch. I can add a shim extension later. my comment is just to discuss the direction. | 13:26 |
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| ihrachys | obondarev: aye captain | 13:27 |
| pc_m | amotoki: So how does that work? Is it that we create a shim and then the plugin refers to the shim? | 13:27 |
| pc_m | amotoki: Would the shim be for the endpoint group? | 13:27 |
| amotoki | pc_m: yes. what in my mind is to add a shim extension named '(vpn-)endpoind-group', | 13:28 |
| amotoki | pc_m: but the existing logic around EPG can be kept as-is. | 13:29 |
| pc_m | amotoki: And then, would the endpoint group be split out from vpnaas.py? (trying to understand how that works) | 13:29 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: either way should work. For example, a vpn plugin implements a method 'create_endpoint_group'. | 13:30 |
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| obondarev | ihrachys: just wanted to make sure I understand what you mean "both patches break notifications" - is it a particular breakage that you see or just ironic failures that indicate it? | 13:31 |
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| ihrachys | obondarev: just ironic. that's another broad assumption. should have probably left those to myself. | 13:31 |
| ihrachys | obondarev: they all go from the assumption that dvr mixin was not expected to trigger for legacy. which is wrong, as you pointed out. | 13:32 |
| amotoki | pc_m: The API layer knows there is a resource 'endpoint_group' through resource_helper.build_resource_info() in each extension. | 13:32 |
| ihrachys | obondarev: the NotFound exception seems so weird | 13:32 |
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| pc_m | amotoki: So the map and the methods could then go into a new module. | 13:32 |
| obondarev | ihrachys: I see. So yeah, the only difference in notification that was made for legacy routers is that we always fetch router before notifying | 13:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/235674 | 13:33 |
| obondarev | ihrachys: it is | 13:33 |
| ihrachys | obondarev: yeah, now I follow. let's clean up the commit message before pushing. | 13:33 |
| ihrachys | obondarev: just waiting for CI | 13:33 |
| obondarev | ihrachys: ack | 13:33 |
| amotoki | pc_m: either should work. we can move these methods to a new module, or we can keep them as-is. both works. The other criteria is a code maintenancability. | 13:33 |
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| ihrachys | obondarev: dtantsur: ok, first tempest run succeeded, waiting for others | 13:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Cleanup .ctl/.pid files for both OpenSwan and LibreSwan https://review.openstack.org/235817 | 13:34 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: IMHO, it is better your patch lands first and then we can tackle my point. | 13:35 |
| pc_m | amotoki: makes sense. | 13:35 |
| obondarev | ihrachys: an alternative may be to always notify even if router is not found to preserve backward compatibility for legacy routers | 13:35 |
| obondarev | ihrachys: and then investigate race condition | 13:35 |
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| ihrachys | obondarev: we need a bug for the NotFound | 13:36 |
| pc_m | amotoki: The other question was in the rolling upgrade comment. Can you elaborate on how that will process will work? | 13:36 |
| amotoki | pc_m: regarding the second point, can I comment about it first? | 13:36 |
| obondarev | ihrachys: we should have already I guess, let me check | 13:36 |
| regXboi | ihrachys, obondarev: looks like another dvr code entanglement issue :( | 13:36 |
| pc_m | amotoki: Sure, go ahead | 13:36 |
| ihrachys | obondarev: the bug mentioned in patch comment is not the one | 13:36 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: I wanted to mean I will comment in the review. | 13:37 |
| ihrachys | regXboi: actually could be the opposite: introducing the common code for both flows broke legacy ;) | 13:37 |
| pc_m | amotoki: Ah ok. | 13:37 |
| obondarev | ihrachys: right.. | 13:37 |
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| regXboi | ihrachys: right now, non-dvr router update path flows through dvr code in at least one place | 13:37 |
| pc_m | amotoki: I posed my questions there, so just let me know and I can look over your comments. | 13:38 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: of course :-) | 13:38 |
| ihrachys | regXboi: yeah. we mix in the dvr mixin into l3 router plugin. something that I almost puked on when I saw that today. | 13:38 |
| regXboi | ihrachys: yep, and just as bad, we route execution through dvr code if the dvr feature is enabled, independent of whether the router or agent are legacy or not | 13:39 |
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| regXboi | that's the one that I've been trying not to lose meals on everytime I think about it | 13:39 |
| ihrachys | regXboi: I suspect even if it's off, it's still triggered in multiple places | 13:39 |
| ihrachys | regXboi: in ironic gate, it's off, still I see dvr debug logs | 13:39 |
| regXboi | ihrachys: yes - I know of one, but I have a nasty suspicion the pattern is systemic | 13:40 |
| regXboi | ihrachys: yes - in fact at least one of the O(n) execution issues I was chasing for legacy in the last couple of weeks turned out to be coming from the dvr code | 13:40 |
| * regXboi really wants to see about making that code path sane | 13:41 | |
| openstackgerrit | enikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: CAS for DHCP reserved ports https://review.openstack.org/236983 | 13:42 |
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| regXboi | ihrachys: I have hopes for your revert patch - so far so good in zuul | 13:42 |
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| ihrachys | yeah, crossing fingers | 13:42 |
| regXboi | ihrachys: btw, I'm thinking that bug should be put down for Thursday's L3 meeting as exhibit a on disentangling the code paths | 13:43 |
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| regXboi | looks like the ironic job passed? | 13:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Martin Hickey proposed openstack/neutron: Add stevedore aliases for interface_driver configuration https://review.openstack.org/234991 | 13:44 |
| ihrachys | regXboi: dtantsur it +1'd the dummy | 13:44 |
| regXboi | ihrachys: ack - I'm +1'ing the neutron patch as I type | 13:45 |
| ihrachys | regXboi: let me remove bad assumptions from the commit message | 13:45 |
| regXboi | ihrachys: sure | 13:45 |
| regXboi | I can +1 v.2 :) | 13:45 |
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| regXboi | have we got enough cores to run this through now? | 13:46 |
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| obondarev | regXboi: I'll +2 | 13:48 |
| ihrachys | obondarev: have you reported the bug, or should I? | 13:48 |
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| ihrachys | (I want to mention it in the commit message) | 13:48 |
| obondarev | ihrachys: not yet | 13:48 |
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| ihrachys | obondarev: are you on it, or better me? | 13:48 |
| obondarev | ihrachys: once we revert we'll have no bug right? :) | 13:48 |
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| ihrachys | obondarev: hm, well alternatively we can reopen the original bug. or was it even closed? | 13:49 |
| ihrachys | obondarev: the original bug is though for optimization | 13:49 |
| obondarev | ihrachys: it wasn't | 13:49 |
| ihrachys | obondarev: we may have a problem with the first patch. we need specific debugging to make sure it's not the case. | 13:49 |
| ihrachys | let's report one. I will do it. | 13:50 |
| regXboi | obondarev: since you are here, you want to check your -1 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236145/ - the recheck passed dvr, but failed -fullstack | 13:50 |
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| regXboi | admittedly that patch still needs unit tests before it can merge | 13:50 |
| obondarev | regXboi: the -1 is mostly for error logs, please see my inline comment | 13:51 |
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| regXboi | obondarev: I read the online comment and looked at the result of the recheck | 13:51 |
| regXboi | honestly, though, the -1 is ok, because the patch *DOES* need unit tests | 13:52 |
| obondarev | regXboi: the recheck looks fine, still not happy with error logs in agent which might be confusing | 13:52 |
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| regXboi | obondarev: ah... I get it now | 13:52 |
| obondarev | regXboi: we shouldn't log error if we they are expected | 13:52 |
| * regXboi pages haleyb | 13:53 | |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack/neutron: Added CORS support to Neutron https://review.openstack.org/236988 | 13:53 |
| regXboi | obondarev - so you are suggesting LOG.debug instead of LOG.error if the first fails? | 13:53 |
| regXboi | or am I confused | 13:53 |
| ihrachys | obondarev: reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1507602 | 13:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1507602 in neutron "_get_router() sometimes raises RouterNotFound when called from under create_floatingip" [High,Confirmed] | 13:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Revert "DVR: Notify specific agent when update floatingip" https://review.openstack.org/236955 | 13:54 |
| obondarev | regXboi: not really. We should pass log_fail_as_error=False to execute() | 13:54 |
| obondarev | ihrachys: thaks! | 13:54 |
| ihrachys | obondarev: regXboi: ^ updated the commit message | 13:54 |
| regXboi | ihrachys: ack - looking | 13:54 |
| haleyb | regXboi: responds to page | 13:55 |
| regXboi | haleyb: pls read scrollback - obondarev and I have been talking about your namespace patch | 13:55 |
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| haleyb | regXboi: thanks, i will look at log_fail_as_error change and get to test today, I'm just glad the change worked | 13:59 |
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| regXboi | haleyb: so am I :( | 13:59 |
| regXboi | er :) | 13:59 |
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| ihrachys | haleyb: please check https://review.openstack.org/236955 | 14:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Haim Daniel proposed openstack/neutron: ovs_neutron_agent: display loaded extensions https://review.openstack.org/227394 | 14:04 |
| haleyb | ihrachys: thanks, guess I shouldn't have +A'd then taken the rest of day off :( | 14:04 |
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| ihrachys | haleyb: it happens. | 14:04 |
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| haleyb | I just +A'd the revert | 14:06 |
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| regXboi | ihrachys, obondarev, haleyb: I'm starting to *really* question patterns like http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/neutron/tree/neutron/db/l3_dvrscheduler_db.py#n424 | 14:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron: Add a note to ban agents from connecting to the DB https://review.openstack.org/236997 | 14:10 |
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| HenryG | ajo: rossella_s: ^^ | 14:10 |
| obondarev | regXboi: not true OOP really | 14:10 |
| amuller | obondarev: We don't use OOP in the server code at all | 14:11 |
| amuller | IMO | 14:11 |
| amuller | we don't use classes :) | 14:11 |
| rossella_s | HenryG, thanks! | 14:11 |
| ihrachys | HenryG: wat? did we have violation for that? | 14:11 |
| HenryG | ihrachys: no, but it wasn't documented | 14:11 |
| obondarev | amuller: we are so bad :) | 14:11 |
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| ihrachys | HenryG: ok :) that could help someone, yes | 14:11 |
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| amuller | ihrachys: we used to have an issue with the metadata agent trying to connect to the DB which kevinbenton fixed | 14:12 |
| ajo | thanks HenryG :) | 14:12 |
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| regXboi | obondarev, amuller: IIRC, that type of pattern is one that leads to legacy and dvr code paths entangling | 14:13 |
| obondarev | regXboi: indeed | 14:13 |
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| regXboi | I remember asking a couple of weeks ago why we were doing it and not looking at the agent's and router's modes | 14:14 |
| * ihrachys prefers not to look into l3 code these days because it scares him | 14:14 | |
| obondarev | regXboi: amuller: pattern used on l3 agent side to separate legacy/dvr/ha seems way better | 14:14 |
| rossella_s | ihrachys, :D | 14:14 |
| * regXboi gets ihrachys a bucket and something to clean up with | 14:14 | |
| rossella_s | maybe it's worth having a slot at the summit to discuss this problem and to plan a refactor? regXboi obondarev amuller ihrachys | 14:15 |
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| * regXboi not going to summit :( | 14:15 | |
| rossella_s | oh :( | 14:15 |
| regXboi | a slot would be a wonderful thing | 14:15 |
| ihrachys | rossella_s: I am not in the position to propose it since I am really far from understanding how we got there and more generally how all pieces interact now | 14:15 |
| haleyb | regXboi: yes, and that one is maybe worse since those "get sync" calls take different arguments | 14:15 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: I just post my reply comments to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230164/ . Thanks for waiting. | 14:15 |
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| regXboi | haleyb: yes that is also ... concerning | 14:16 |
| obondarev | rossella_s: that's a good thing for developer's meetup on Friday | 14:16 |
| rossella_s | obondarev, that's what I thought | 14:16 |
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| regXboi | I'll ask the question now though - what is the compelling reason for *not* routing execution based on requesting agent/router types? | 14:17 |
| pc_m | amotoki: Thanks. I'll check them as soon as I get out of a meeting that is starting in 10 mins. | 14:18 |
| rossella_s | ihrachys, I am not in that position either, that's why I didn't propose it. We all see the problem I think we should discuss it and try to find a solution :) | 14:18 |
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| ihrachys | rossella_s: I suspect L3 subteam is aware of the issues. I don't believe they are in denial. :) | 14:18 |
| obondarev | regXboi: that kind of routing (should) happens at the top of mixin hierarchy | 14:19 |
| rossella_s | ihrachys, yeah I know...actually lots of refactoring was done already...maybe they need help | 14:19 |
| regXboi | ihrachys, rossella_s: since I'm here, I think you can say the "L3 subteam is aware" | 14:19 |
| ihrachys | obondarev: not that mixins are generally a good idea | 14:19 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: no need to rush. i will be here in next few hours. | 14:20 |
| regXboi | ihrachys, rossella_s: even refactored, the dvr code is still pretty messy - see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175237/ | 14:20 |
| obondarev | ihrachys: 100% agree, just stating how things work now | 14:20 |
| rossella_s | regXboi, yep...messy and scary :p | 14:21 |
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| haleyb | carl has some good thoughts on future refactoring of L3 code, I'm sure he'd be happy to explain it in Tokyo | 14:22 |
| * ihrachys feels he should start joining neutron-drivers meetings | 14:22 | |
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| regXboi | haleyb: iirc, those are in that spec reference I cited | 14:22 |
| obondarev | regXboi: the spec covers only scheduling side | 14:23 |
| regXboi | obondarev: obviously iirc was false :) | 14:24 |
| regXboi | yeah, here's a big chunk of the headache: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/neutron/tree/neutron/api/rpc/handlers/l3_rpc.py#n80 | 14:25 |
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| regXboi | ihrachys: that's the one that made me lose sleep a couple of times | 14:26 |
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| regXboi | anyway, I agree - we all see the problem | 14:28 |
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| obondarev | ihrachys: once your revert merged I'll repropose commit 52e91f48f2327b47f126893f9cb12f153380a9a6 with a one change to notify even if router is not found - thus fixing the problem that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231031/ might have | 14:30 |
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| obondarev | ihrachys: and check a dependent ironic patch to make sure nothing is broken | 14:30 |
| ihrachys | obondarev: as Related-Bug to the one to get to the culprit, right? | 14:30 |
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| obondarev | ihrachys: right, and will mention the bug in the comment where NotFound is handled | 14:31 |
| ihrachys | obondarev: yeah, let's stay on safe side | 14:31 |
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| rishi_ | Hi , I am trying to integrate the compute host to vsphere with neutron ml2 pugin? is it possible to do ? | 14:34 |
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| pc_m | amotoki: hi. I replied to the comments in the review. Let me know what you thing. | 14:52 |
| pc_m | think | 14:52 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: thanks. looking now. | 14:53 |
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| markmcclain | regXboi: have to time to talk bugs? | 14:56 |
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| regXboi | markmcclain: not right now - I have to go into a meeting at the top of the hour and then I have another meeting at the next hour | 14:57 |
| regXboi | how about I ping you when the second one is done? | 14:57 |
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| markmcclain | I'm in a meeting... how about 3 hours from now? :) | 14:57 |
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| regXboi | markmcclain: that *should* work | 15:02 |
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| vikasc__ | tfukushima, hi | 15:07 |
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| mhickey | regXboi: Hi. Do you have bandwidth for qq on possible bug which maybe out of support? | 15:39 |
| regXboi | mhickey: I'm on the phone for the next 80 minutes | 15:40 |
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| mhickey | regXboi: not a bother. If you get time later, the bug is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1498315 | 15:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1498315 in neutron "Suggest do not display the lbaas namespace interface ip when associate floating ip." [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Martin Hickey (martin-hickey) | 15:40 |
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| ihrachys | armax: fyi we broke ironic today: https://review.openstack.org/236955 | 15:53 |
| ihrachys | need to run. cu folks. | 15:53 |
| armax | ihrachys: thanks | 15:54 |
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| gsagie_ | feisky: here ? | 16:00 |
| feisky | OK | 16:00 |
| feisky | Actually I don't realize there are so much debate about device_owner | 16:01 |
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| feisky | Kuryr should just fix a name, and push horizon to accept it. | 16:02 |
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| gsagie_ | feisky: what is the debate about? from what i understood we going with kuryr:container and need to add this support in Horizon? (and we use the same thing that | 16:03 |
| gsagie_ | other projects like Ironic uses | 16:03 |
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| feisky | I think we should follow compute:nova and network:dhcp | 16:04 |
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| feisky | gsagie_: ? | 16:07 |
| gsagie_ | feisky: so you prefer something else on kuryr:container | 16:08 |
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| gsagie_ | ? | 16:08 |
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| feisky | gsagie_: maybe curry:container is also ok, | 16:08 |
| gsagie_ | feisky: i suggest you raise this question in the mailing list and lets see what others thing, because there is already some experience with doing the same (for example like ironic:container) and we want to be compatible as much as possible | 16:09 |
| gsagie_ | think | 16:09 |
| feisky | gsagie_: I don't this issue is so serious, since there are no other container services now | 16:10 |
| feisky | gsagie_: I just is confused such a simple fix hard to merge | 16:12 |
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| feisky | gsagie_: Fix to horizon can't be pushed since there is no device_owner in kuryr | 16:13 |
| gsagie_ | feisky: you can put your Horizon patch with "Depends-On" on your Kuryr patch, if thats what you worried about | 16:13 |
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| pc_m | amotoki: hi | 16:16 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: hey | 16:17 |
| pc_m | amotoki: Looking at how to handle rolling upgrade and there's not a clean/easy solution. | 16:17 |
| feisky | gsagie_: hmm, still confused, depends across projects | 16:17 |
| pc_m | amotoki: If we need to populate the subnet field, as I mentioned in the comments. | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Add a note to ban agents from connecting to the DB https://review.openstack.org/236997 | 16:17 |
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| pc_m | amotoki: I guess the question is, when does the database migration complete? | 16:18 |
| gsagie_ | feisky: yes, as far as i know this is what "Depends-On" is for | 16:18 |
| amotoki | pc_m: yeah. tha's true in this case. | 16:18 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: At this moment, we don't support the live upgrade of db schema, so I don't think we need to assume 'contract' migration will be executed later. | 16:19 |
| gsagie_ | feisky: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#multiple-changes | 16:20 |
| amotoki | pc_m: I am reading http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/liberty/online-schema-migrations.html and the related review. | 16:20 |
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| pc_m | amotoki: If contract migration happens after all agents updated (regardless of ordering of agent and server), I think it will work as is. | 16:21 |
| amotoki | pc_m: I think we need to check Mitaka plan on the online schema migration. | 16:21 |
| pc_m | amotoki: If the migration happens when server updated, then there is a concern. | 16:21 |
| pc_m | amotoki: I'm trying to figure out a solution. | 16:21 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: it is a very tricky area :-( | 16:22 |
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| pc_m | amotoki: indeed. Glad you caught it. | 16:22 |
| pc_m | amotoki: In looking at the code, it appears the driver needs a subnet struct, but only uses the CIDR, so I may be able to create a workaround. | 16:23 |
| amotoki | pc_m: it is ideal if we can decouple the API change from the RPC change. | 16:23 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: it may help us if we can use CIDR in the RPC interface as you said. | 16:25 |
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| pc_m | amotoki: I'm trying to take the first connection's, first local endpoint and use that as the subnet. | 16:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Update internal snat port prefix for multiple IPv6 subnets https://review.openstack.org/225319 | 16:26 |
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| bapalm | Hey guys, newb question here, but what is a "stevedore"? | 16:28 |
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| bapalm | haha | 16:28 |
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| bapalm | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/stevedore/ | 16:29 |
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| bapalm | "The code for managing entry points tends to be repetitive, though, so stevedore provides manager classes for implementing common patterns for using dynamically loaded extensions." | 16:30 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: I would like to jump in more detail, but I am afraid I don't have enough time to explore a solution. let me keep it in mind. | 16:30 |
| bapalm | Got it... | 16:30 |
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| pc_m | amotoki: OK. Let me propose a new patch set with a solution. | 16:30 |
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| amotoki | pc_m: thanks for taking care of the upgrade case. it is really a tricky area we need to improve. | 16:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Revert "DVR: Notify specific agent when update floatingip" https://review.openstack.org/236955 | 16:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Use clouds.yaml from devstack for functional tests https://review.openstack.org/236730 | 16:31 |
| pc_m | amotoki: roger that. | 16:31 |
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| pc_m | amotoki: ^^ | 16:58 |
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| regXboi | mhickey: looking now | 17:08 |
| regXboi | markmclain: you wanted to talk bugs? | 17:09 |
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| regXboi | armax: I'm thinking I'm going to mark https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1498315 as "won't fix" - it's filed on stable/juno which is currently marked as "security-supported" only | 17:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1498315 in neutron "Suggest do not display the lbaas namespace interface ip when associate floating ip." [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Martin Hickey (martin-hickey) | 17:12 |
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| erlarese | Hi All, it appears this line will always fail for untagged flat VLAN networks: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/openvswitch/agent/ovs_neutron_agent.py#L359 because segmentation_id will always be None. Does that seem like a bug? | 17:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Improvements to the blueprint management process https://review.openstack.org/235640 | 17:56 |
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| regXboi | armax, markmcclain: ping | 18:12 |
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| markmcclain | regXboi: pong | 18:13 |
| regXboi | markmcclain: you wanted to talk bugs :) | 18:14 |
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| markmcclain | regXboi: just wanted to make sure we're handing off duties and to know if there are any inflight bugs I need run with? | 18:15 |
| regXboi | markmcclain: I'm looking at 1507684 and trying to decide if that is an rfe or not | 18:15 |
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| regXboi | 1507499 is an rfe | 18:16 |
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| markmcclain | '499 is definitely an RFE | 18:17 |
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| markmcclain | and '684 should be one as well | 18:18 |
| regXboi | ok, I can mark that | 18:18 |
| regXboi | the other two that I've been sorta stumped by are 1506567 and 1506566 | 18:18 |
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| markmcclain | so I think that 1506567 is gap in docs and expected behavior | 18:22 |
| regXboi | I'm pretty sure 1506566 is as well, because I'm not sure *I* know how to enable notifications to ceilometer now | 18:23 |
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| markmcclain | I'm happy to pick up triaging of these two | 18:23 |
| regXboi | I gift them to you :) | 18:24 |
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| markmcclain | thanks... kind of like receiving a wet cat | 18:24 |
| regXboi | or a wet chicken | 18:24 |
| markmcclain | haha | 18:24 |
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| regXboi | now... I can go wonder what is going on with graphite | 18:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is the neutron meeting today? | 18:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think its alternating to monday this week | 18:32 |
| regXboi | Sam-I-Am: I believe it is tomorrow morning | 18:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmm | 18:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | interesting... the wiki says the last meeting was tuesday at 2100, yet thats the monday meeting time | 18:33 |
| amuller | Sam-I-Am: I use the openstack calendar | 18:34 |
| amuller | it says it's tomorrow | 18:34 |
| regXboi | Sam-I-Am: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-October/077327.html | 18:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ah, hmm | 18:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | amuller: where might this be? | 18:36 |
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| amuller | Sam-I-Am: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irc-meetings.ical | 18:37 |
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| amuller | Sam-I-Am: here's a more specific link, generated from the .git repo governing the shared calendar: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Neutron_Team_Meeting | 18:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | amuller: cool, useful | 18:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | i was looking for more specific cal stuff | 18:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | otherwise BOOM | 18:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | amuller: looking for feedback on whether we should add the ability to attach vms to public/external networks to existing scenarios or create additional scenarios | 18:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Haim Daniel proposed openstack/neutron: ovs_neutron_agent: display loaded extensions https://review.openstack.org/227394 | 18:41 |
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| regXboi | amuller: ping | 19:25 |
| amuller | regXboi: pong | 19:26 |
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| regXboi | amuller: if I wanted to run the tests from dvr-multinode-full, I'm looking at running tempest tox -efull -- --concurrency=4 correct? | 19:26 |
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| amuller | regXboi: I really don't know, check the job definition for that job | 19:27 |
| regXboi | amuller: ah ok - I pulled that out of the console logs | 19:27 |
| regXboi | so I'm 99% sure its correct ;) | 19:27 |
| amuller | regXboi: if that's what you found in the console logs for that job then it's correct... | 19:28 |
| regXboi | amuller: ok, thx | 19:28 |
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| clarkb | regXboi: the concurrency is determined by the number of CPUs available locally. its max(2, numprocs/2) | 19:38 |
| clarkb | regXboi: so on our 8vcpu test machines you get concurrency=4 | 19:38 |
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| regXboi | clarkb: ack and thx | 19:42 |
| clarkb | regXboi: if you have more cpus you might try a higher concurrency level if trying to tickle races | 19:42 |
| clarkb | but tempets found that tempest was competing iwth the openstack services for cpu time if they didn't split the cpus up like that | 19:43 |
| regXboi | clarkb: this test is more of a baseline - I'm using a slightly different arrangement of nodes | 19:43 |
| regXboi | clarkb: I want to see what difference that makes | 19:44 |
| clarkb | gotcha | 19:44 |
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| claudiub | hello. Can anyone help out a bit, I seem to have some issues with the liberty version of neutron-openvswitch-agent. When running a tempest test, it creates 2 ovs flows for that network / that vlan id. That causes package loses, including the dhcp requests, meaning the instance has a high change it doesn't get an ip, meaning the test will fail. | 20:00 |
| claudiub | Oddly enough, restarting the agent while the test is running, will create the flows correctly, and the network traffic is fine, the test passes. | 20:00 |
| claudiub | any ideas why this happens? | 20:00 |
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| kevinbenton | regXboi: ping | 20:24 |
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| regXboi | kevinbenton: pong :) | 20:26 |
| regXboi | what can I do for you? | 20:26 |
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| kevinbenton | regXboi: on that namespace patch, it merged but it's not clear to me that it addressed the slowdown in the original bug report of router creation | 20:27 |
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| regXboi | kevinbenton: yeah, I saw that | 20:27 |
| kevinbenton | regXboi: can you have the bug reporter see if it actually did what was expected? | 20:27 |
| claudiub|2 | hello. Can anyone help out a bit, I seem to have some issues with the liberty version of neutron-openvswitch-agent. When running a tempest test, it creates 2 ovs flows for that network / that vlan id. That causes package loses, including the dhcp requests, meaning the instance has a high change it doesn't get an ip, meaning the test will fail. | 20:27 |
| claudiub|2 | Oddly enough, restarting the agent while the test is running, will create the flows correctly, and the network traffic is fine, the test passes. | 20:27 |
| claudiub|2 | any ideas why this happens? | 20:27 |
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| kevinbenton | claudiub|2: on one specific test? | 20:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Register oslo_service.wsgi options correctly https://review.openstack.org/234027 | 20:28 |
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| claudiub|2 | kevinbenton: did not try other tests, but I assume yes | 20:28 |
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| regXboi | kevinbenton: iirc, the original reporter is back on stable/kilo - I can see about running something tomorrow morning | 20:29 |
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| regXboi | kevinbenton: remind me of the patch number and I'll make myself a note to check it | 20:29 |
| kevinbenton | regXboi: ok. what i'm concerned about is that we didn't actually fix what was causing the noticable slowdown | 20:29 |
| kevinbenton | regXboi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1311804 | 20:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1311804 in neutron "ip netns list starts without root_helper" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 20:30 |
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| regXboi | kevinbenton: I'll check | 20:30 |
| kevinbenton | regXboi: https://review.openstack.org/227589 | 20:30 |
| kevinbenton | regXboi: sorry, wrong bug | 20:30 |
| kevinbenton | regXboi: this is the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1497396 | 20:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1497396 in neutron "Network creation and Router Creation times degrade with large number of instances" [Medium,Incomplete] - Assigned to John Kasperski (jckasper) | 20:30 |
| regXboi | kevinbenton: I'll set something up tomorrow morning local time and run through it - will set up an etherpad with what I find | 20:31 |
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| kevinbenton | regXboi: that would be great. thx | 20:32 |
| claudiub|2 | kevinbenton: ovs flows created while running a tempest test: http://paste.openstack.org/show/476754/ | 20:32 |
| claudiub|2 | br-int flows are fine.. | 20:32 |
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| kevinbenton | claudiub|2: can you paste your bridge_mappings config for the agent? | 20:34 |
| kevinbenton | claudiub|2: and the output of neutron net-show of that network as an admin? | 20:34 |
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| claudiub|2 | kevinbenton: sure. the bridge mappings, you mean the ovs bridges? | 20:36 |
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| claudiub|2 | ovs-vsctl show? | 20:36 |
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| kevinbenton | claudiub|2: no, the neutron conf file that the agent is reading should have a section that defines the physical bridges that physnets map to | 20:37 |
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| kevinbenton | claudiub|2: it's called "bridge_mappings" | 20:37 |
| regXboi | kevinbenton: I actually ran an experiment this morning that has this code in it - let me see if the logs have enough to answer your question | 20:37 |
| claudiub|2 | oh ok | 20:37 |
| kevinbenton | regXboi: well we need a before and after, not just an after :) | 20:38 |
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| regXboi | kevinbenton: if I have the after, I can backpatch the code to get the before ;) | 20:39 |
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| claudiub|2 | kevinbenton: http://paste.openstack.org/show/476759/ | 20:42 |
| regXboi | yeah, I don't have the after | 20:43 |
| regXboi | ok, so this will be a bit bigger effort tomorrow | 20:43 |
| regXboi | oh wait | 20:45 |
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| kevinbenton | claudiub|2: are tap30548132-18 and tap1f265ad7-d9 on the same network? | 20:46 |
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| regXboi | kevinbenton: I have a before where I break out everything in the ovs plug_new interface, that includes ensure_namespace | 20:47 |
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| regXboi | kevinbenton: so I'll re-stack tomorrow morning and repeat for the "after" and then we will see what we will see | 20:48 |
| kevinbenton | regXboi: ok, and you know what percentage ovs plug_new interface takes of the whole router operation? | 20:50 |
| claudiub|2 | kevinbenton: you mean same physical network? yeah. | 20:50 |
| kevinbenton | claudiub|2: no, i mean are they in the same neutron network | 20:50 |
| claudiub|2 | kevinbenton: no, tap1f265ad7-d9 is on tempest-network-smoke--1046214557 and the other one, tap30548132-18 on private | 20:51 |
| regXboi | kevinbenton: yes, I'll be able to back that out of the before and after logs as well | 20:52 |
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| claudiub|2 | also, as I said, restarting neutron-openvswitch-agent will result in properly created ovs flows. | 20:53 |
| kevinbenton | claudiub|2: ok. last thing. can you paste the output of neutron net-show of the private? | 20:53 |
| regXboi | kevinbenton: although in the before case, that will change as the number of routers increases | 20:53 |
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| claudiub|2 | kevinbenton: http://paste.openstack.org/show/476760/ | 20:54 |
| regXboi | and may in fact change in the after case as well :) | 20:54 |
| kevinbenton | regXboi: but if you have a system with 50 routers, the time to create one more router should have been reduced quite a bit by this patch if it fixed the bug | 20:54 |
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| regXboi | kevinbenton: how about we see what the scoreboard says tomorrow? | 20:56 |
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| kevinbenton | regXboi: scoreboard? | 20:57 |
| kevinbenton | claudiub|2: this looks like a legitimate bug | 20:57 |
| kevinbenton | claudiub|2: can you file it on launchpad? | 20:57 |
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| claudiub|2 | kevinbenton: sure thing. | 20:57 |
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| kevinbenton | claudiub|2: oh hang on | 20:58 |
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| kevinbenton | claudiub|2: can you also show me the flows for br-int ? | 20:58 |
| regXboi | kevinbenton: numerical results of the two cases - essentially a scoreboard for comparing the two cases | 20:58 |
| kevinbenton | regXboi: oh okay. i thought that's what we were already talking about :) | 20:58 |
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| claudiub|2 | kevinbenton: http://paste.openstack.org/show/476761/ | 20:59 |
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| regXboi | ok all - I'm out - see you tomorrow | 21:00 |
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| kevinbenton | claudiub|2: yes, please file a bug. it seems the mapping between the real VLAN and the br-int VLAN is getting mangled somehow | 21:03 |
| claudiub|2 | kevinbenton: ok. :) | 21:03 |
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| kevinbenton | claudiub|2: br-int is re-writing 530 to 729, which is a local vlan that doesn't exist | 21:04 |
| kevinbenton | claudiub|2: it should have been rewriting to 1 | 21:04 |
| kevinbenton | claudiub|2: so the br-int rules are messed up as well | 21:04 |
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| claudiub|2 | kevinbenton: done: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1507776 | 21:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1507776 in neutron "Wrong OVS flows created for new networks" [Undecided,New] | 21:16 |
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| kevinbenton | claudiub|2: can you provide brief reproduction steps? | 21:19 |
| kevinbenton | claudiub|2: because i think this is specific to VLAN networks | 21:19 |
| claudiub|2 | kevinbenton: ok | 21:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Split the FIP Namespace delete in L3 agent for DVR https://review.openstack.org/229561 | 22:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Remove non-existent tunneling_enabled conf from fullstack https://review.openstack.org/237248 | 22:14 |
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| ZZelle | amuller, hi | 22:19 |
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| amuller | ZZelle: hiya! | 22:20 |
| amuller | ZZelle: btw thanks for picking up the DHCP scheduler work! | 22:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Add vhost-user support via ovs capabilities/datapath_type https://review.openstack.org/237264 | 22:21 |
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| ZZelle | amuller, if you have time, it would be great to have some feedbacks as i am not sure i define filter_agents_with_network_access in the right class/mixins/whatever | 22:22 |
| amuller | ZZelle: ok | 22:22 |
| amuller | I probably won't have time for it this week but yeah | 22:22 |
| amuller | that patch is important | 22:23 |
| amuller | I'm starting to think we need a similar patch for L3 | 22:23 |
| ZZelle | amuller, yes but it's a bit more complicated as a router is connected to many networks | 22:23 |
| ZZelle | which implies we could relocate a router on router-interface-add | 22:24 |
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| ZZelle | amuller, about your comment on https://review.openstack.org/237218/1, where should i document the upgrade step? | 22:25 |
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| amuller | ZZelle: is the upgrade step manual? | 22:26 |
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| ZZelle | amuller, kevinbenton, it's a bit complex to automate it as we need to change external-networks provider attributes | 22:27 |
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| ZZelle | and it's not allowed | 22:28 |
| kevinbenton | ZZelle: what is the context of this discussion? | 22:29 |
| kevinbenton | sorry, was afk | 22:29 |
| ZZelle | kevinbenton, external_network_bridge removal | 22:29 |
| amuller | ZZelle: kevinbenton: We should never knowingly break users with a working setup | 22:29 |
| amuller | I think we'll have to live with that config key for eternity | 22:29 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: no, that's what we have a deprecation phase for | 22:30 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: otherwise what's the point? | 22:30 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: we can provide migration tooling to help | 22:31 |
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| ZZelle | kevinbenton, the trouble is that there is (in general) currently no way to move from external_network_bridge without deleting and recreating every ext-net (and associated floatingips) | 22:32 |
| ZZelle | s/external_network_bridge/external_network_bridge=something/ | 22:32 |
| kevinbenton | ZZelle: why would you have to do that? | 22:32 |
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| ZZelle | kevinbenton, to setup correctly ext-net provider attributes | 22:32 |
| ZZelle | with external_network_bridge there are unused, without there are required | 22:33 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: a deprecation phase to remove some method that *aaS or 3rd party neutron plugins use, sure. Deprecating (Even with a deprecation phase) a key that's currently in use and not offering an automated migration? No. | 22:33 |
| kevinbenton | ZZelle: yes, so they will need to update the network provider attributes | 22:33 |
| ZZelle | kevinbenton, it's allowed? | 22:33 |
| amuller | don't think it is | 22:33 |
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| ZZelle | kevinbenton, amuller, it's allowed https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/extensions/providernet.py#L32-L43 | 22:34 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: a major upgrade should never break a system that didn't modify its /etc files | 22:34 |
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| amuller | just because a bunch of developers decided that an option was bothersome to maintain | 22:35 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: that's what a migration is for | 22:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor _populate_ports_for_subnets for testability https://review.openstack.org/236052 | 22:35 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: we do it for the database all of the time | 22:35 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: sure, go ahead and provide an automated migration that is documented and tested | 22:35 |
| amuller | otherwise we cannot remove that option | 22:35 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: what you are saying is not new information | 22:36 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: upgrades are always a concern | 22:36 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: why would you think otherwise? | 22:36 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: because when I asked ZZelle he said the migration is manual | 22:36 |
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| amuller | that's what this discussion is about | 22:37 |
| kevinbenton | we should be able to automate it | 22:37 |
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| kevinbenton | we have the configs of the L3 agent | 22:37 |
| kevinbenton | in the server DB | 22:38 |
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| amuller | sorry fellas gotta go | 22:38 |
| kevinbenton | ZZelle: are you going to be at the summit? we can plan it out then | 22:38 |
| ZZelle | ZZelle, i will be at the summit | 22:38 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: we could have a lot more agent conf derived from the server via RPC at agent boot time, just a thought | 22:38 |
| amuller | kidna ties in to this discussion | 22:38 |
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| amuller | hehe | 22:39 |
| amuller | ttyl | 22:39 |
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| kevinbenton | ZZelle: yeah, will need to think about this. i think the issue we will hit is that we are going to need a little extra logic in the agents to get new bridge_mappings from the server based on the external_network_bridge option | 22:41 |
| kevinbenton | ZZelle: since the server needs to support N-1 agents, we might be stuck an extra cycle | 22:42 |
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| ZZelle | kevinbenton, why N-1? | 22:43 |
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| kevinbenton | ZZelle: previous release agents is what i mean | 22:46 |
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| ZZelle | kevinbenton, what about 1) updating the network provider attributes 2) rescheduling router? | 22:47 |
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| ZZelle | to a different (Mitaka+) l3-agent | 22:47 |
| kevinbenton | ZZelle: well on an upgrade there won't be any agent to schedule it to initially | 22:47 |
| kevinbenton | ZZelle: if they are running a Liberty deployment | 22:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | enikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: CAS for DHCP reserved ports https://review.openstack.org/236983 | 22:49 |
| ZZelle | kevinbenton, i was thinking about how nova updates its computes ... but it implies many l3 agents | 22:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Add address scope to floating IPs in RPC response to L3 agent https://review.openstack.org/189500 | 22:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Create a routing table manager https://review.openstack.org/192032 | 22:53 |
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