Thursday, 2014-04-10

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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add comments to iptables rules to help debugging  https://review.openstack.org/8616800:29
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nati_uenohey guys I'm facing UT error with master. FAIL: neutron.tests.unit.ryu.test_ryu_security_group.TestRyuSecurityGroups.test_security_group_member_updated00:37
nati_uenoBut it's working in the gating.. wired00:37
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jogoso lifeless had a in interesting neutron+rootwrap/clone insight00:39
jogohad an*00:39
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HenryGjogo: lifeless: do tell00:52
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HenryGnati_ueno: that test works fine for me00:53
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lifelessHenryG: oh, so clone() isn't actually cheap if you have a far process00:58
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lifelessfor intance s 5356 neutron   20   0  225m  81m 4840 S    21  0.1   4:08.78 neutron-server00:58
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lifelessthe page tables have to be copies etc00:58
lifelessits not super super expensive00:59
nati_uenoHenryG: thanks00:59
lifelessbut you can avoid the concern entirely by having a teeny helper that does fork+exec for you and just wires up fd's on demand (or even passes info back and forth)00:59
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HenryGlifeless: you should share your thoughts on the email thread01:03
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HenryGlifeless: subject "[openstack-dev] [neutron][rootwrap] Performance considerations, sudo?"01:05
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lifelessif you're doing thousands of forks - and neutron-server spent 50% in clone in a recent strace, it can be quite a win01:08
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HenryGlifeless: IMO this whole rootwrapping way of hacking at the host for features is terrible.01:13
ianwif I'm seeing01:16
ianwimeout: Timeout while waiting on RPC response - topic: "q-plugin", RPC method: "security_group_rules_for_devices" info: "<unknown>"01:16
ianwon a compute node ... what is supposed to be consuming security_group_rules_for_devices?01:16
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ianws/compute node/ovs_neutron_agent really01:17
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mmmuckyianw: I've seen this before.01:18
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ianwmmucky: does it imply that the openvswitch-agent isn't consuming the message?01:19
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mmmuckyare you using RabbitMQ for messaging?01:19
ianwmmmucky: qpid01:20
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mmmuckyinteresting.  I am using RabbitMQ and we have seen situations where the ovs_neutron_agent loses its binding to the reply queue that it is expecting to receive the RPC response on.01:22
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mmmuckyWhen this happens, I go and look for the reply queue that is referenced in the initial RPC message.01:24
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mmmuckyand more often than not, I will find the return message sitting in that queue.01:24
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mmmuckywhich is to say that the neutron-server has received and responded to the call, but the ovs_neutron_agent is failing to retrieve it.01:24
mmmuckysadly, I don't have much experience with qpid.01:24
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mmmuckyWe would see this a lot when our MQ server was sitting behind HAProxy and there was a failover event.01:25
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mmmuckySo my advice would be to try and confirm that neutron-server is receiving and responding to this RPC call.01:25
mmmuckythen you will know if you have an agent or neutron-server problem.01:26
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ianwmmucky: ahh, yeah, thanks.  it seems like neutron-server failed to communicate a message (logged an exception), and then seemed to have become a zombie01:28
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gongyshEmilienM ping01:57
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mmmuckys/ //02:39
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openstackgerritHenry Gessau proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Enable flake8 E711 and E712 checking  https://review.openstack.org/8649402:56
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openstackgerritHenry Gessau proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Enable flake8 E711 and E712 checking  https://review.openstack.org/8649403:04
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/neutron: Fix typo in ml2 configuration file  https://review.openstack.org/8641504:57
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openstackgerritIWAMOTO Toshihiro proposed a change to openstack/neutron: LBaaS: implements LVS driver  https://review.openstack.org/6740505:22
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openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/8564706:49
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openstackgerritÉdouard Thuleau proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Implement local ARP responder onto OVS agent  https://review.openstack.org/4922707:27
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Unique_constraint names should be equal for all dialects  https://review.openstack.org/5541108:21
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openstackgerritRossella Sblendido proposed a change to openstack/neutron: DHCP agent should check interface is UP before adding route  https://review.openstack.org/8574908:23
openstackgerritRossella Sblendido proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove "reuse_existing" from setup method in dhcp.py  https://review.openstack.org/8634408:23
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openstackgerritZang MingJie proposed a change to openstack/neutron: db migration failed when plugin name alias used in config file  https://review.openstack.org/8122108:34
xuhanpsalv-orlando, ping08:35
salv-orlandoxi xuhanp08:36
xuhanpI have a quick question about running multiple DHCP agent or L3 agent, do you have a minute?08:36
salv-orlandoyeah08:36
xuhanpSo if I started more than 1 dhcp agent08:36
xuhanpa "dhcp_agent" queue is created by the first agent.08:37
xuhanpbut if I kill the first one which created this queue, the queue get deleted because the rpc connection get closed08:37
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xuhanpso the second one won't work anymore.08:37
xuhanpdo you happen to meet this problem before?08:38
salv-orlandoIn my test environments I've never tested it, but we have a devtest cloud with several agents which were regenerated recently, and I did not have any report of that. Probably because starting a new agent then recreates the queue.08:39
salv-orlandoHowever, if you can reproduce this, file a bug and we'll triage it.08:39
openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Reschedule router if new external gateway is on other network  https://review.openstack.org/5288408:40
xuhanpsalv-orlando, sure. thanks. I will do more test and file a bug if needed.08:41
salv-orlandothanks!08:41
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openstackgerritRoman Podoliaka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Sync db code from oslo-incubator  https://review.openstack.org/7720508:43
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openstackgerritYuriy Taraday proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Implement rootwrap daemon support  https://review.openstack.org/8466708:48
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admin0hi devs  .. is it possible to have a neutrol l3 agent without controller in the same node ? if yes, what are the basic parameters for the l3 agent  to function ?09:21
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openstackgerritRossella Sblendido proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove mock.patch.stop from test that inherits from BaseTestCase  https://review.openstack.org/8653809:35
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openstackgerritRossella Sblendido proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove mock.patch.stop from tests that inherit from BaseTestCase  https://review.openstack.org/8653809:42
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openstackgerritYuriy Taraday proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Implement rootwrap daemon support  https://review.openstack.org/8466710:07
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claudiubsalv-orlando: ping10:11
salv-orlandohi claudiub10:11
claudiubi didn't quite understand your question on a code review10:11
claudiubhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/84227/7/neutron/plugins/hyperv/agent/hyperv_neutron_agent.py10:12
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salv-orlandoI was simply wondering why you have to remove all rules10:13
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salv-orlandoif the security groups are not enabled - perhaps just not add them at all10:13
salv-orlandoso you won't have anything to remove ;)10:13
claudiubtrue, but if someone decides to disable them, the rules are still there10:14
claudiuband they are still applied. That is why when enable_security_groups is false, they are removed from the switch ports :)10:14
salv-orlandoclaudiub: ok, good point. got it now.10:14
openstackgerritenikanorov proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Properly apply column default in migration pool_monitor_status  https://review.openstack.org/8654810:16
claudiubsalv-orlando: then i shall reply the same thing to the comment. :)10:16
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claudiubso it will be clear to everyone else. :)10:17
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claudiubsalv-orlando: also, if you have have a little time, could you do a review on a bug fix backport to havana? :)10:40
salv-orlandoI can review but I am not in the stable team. If you're looking for +2, try arosen, markmcclain or apevec10:41
claudiubsalv-orlando: ok, thanks. :)10:41
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: WIP Add testing for database from oslo  https://review.openstack.org/7651910:43
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: WIP Implement test  https://review.openstack.org/7652010:48
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/neutron: Set correct columns' length  https://review.openstack.org/8053910:59
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Update ensure()/reconnect() to catch MessagingError  https://review.openstack.org/8655411:04
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/neutron: Remove "reuse_existing" from setup method in dhcp.py  https://review.openstack.org/8634411:15
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openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Reschedule router if new external gateway is on other network  https://review.openstack.org/5288411:24
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pcmsdague: ping11:25
sdaguepong11:25
pcmon 84842 review11:26
pcmit is still in approved state. I have a change, how do I push that up for review (and grenade run)?11:26
pcmhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/84842/11:26
sdaguepcm: well it's been reverted11:27
sdagueso you want to push a new patch that does the same thing, or revert the revert11:27
pcmSo, can I just remove the ChangeId from commit message to cause a new review?11:28
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sdaguepcm: sure11:40
openstackgerritRossella Sblendido proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove mock.patch.stop from tests that inherit from BaseTestCase  https://review.openstack.org/8653811:41
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Unique_constraint names should be equal for all dialects  https://review.openstack.org/5541111:52
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jamespagepcm, ola - did you see my query re the vpn agent earlier this week?11:55
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pcmjamespage: I don't recall. Was it on the ML?12:00
jamespagepcm, no - a PM12:00
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jamespagepcm, basically I'm not sure whether I'm looking at a bug or I'm being stupid12:00
pcmjamespage: I must have missed it. What's up?12:01
jamespagepcm, what's the relationship between the vpn-agent and the l3-agent? from what I read they should be deployed together, but that's causing tempest test failures in our CI in Ubuntu12:01
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jamespagepcm, to me it looks like the vpn-agent is a superset of the l3-agent; if I turn the l3-agent off, I think the vpn-agent is performing its functions12:02
jamespagepcm, is that right?12:02
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jamespagepcm, think == all of the tempest tests which rely on routers and floating ip's being created continue to pass :-)12:02
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pcmI think so. IIRC the vpn-agent is a subclass.12:04
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jamespagepcm, OK - so they should really conflict with each other in packaging; installing both at the same time breaks stuff afaict12:05
jamespagepcm, that's what I thought - but wanted to confirm that was the case :-)12:05
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pcmjamespage: On my setup, I have q-l3 and q-vpn services enabled, but there is only a q-vpn process running under devstack.12:07
pcmand it uses the l3_agent.ini file.12:07
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pcmjamespage: there is only a neutron-vpn-agent process running.12:09
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* pcm don't think I've ever looked to see what is there when NOT using VPN.12:09
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pcmjamespage: Yes, it is either-or12:11
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pcmjamespage: https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/lib/neutron#L49712:13
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jamespagepcm, excellent! thanks for your help12:17
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pcmjamespage: np12:21
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/neutron: Fixes Hyper-V agent security group ICMP rules  https://review.openstack.org/8446412:42
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obondarevsalv-orlando: ping13:08
obondarevsalv-orlando: I've addressed your comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52884 can you please check?13:09
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openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Use storage engine when creating tables in migrations  https://review.openstack.org/8133413:43
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openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Use storage engine when creating tables in migrations  https://review.openstack.org/8133413:47
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/neutron: ML2 Cisco Nexus MD: Support portchannel interfaces  https://review.openstack.org/8354614:29
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openstackgerritKevin Bringard proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Create ingress spoofing rules  https://review.openstack.org/8384514:34
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openstackgerritEvgeny Fedoruk proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Register LBaaS resources to quotas engine  https://review.openstack.org/8662415:08
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openstackgerritRobert Kukura proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ML2: Bind ports outside transactions  https://review.openstack.org/8294515:10
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openstackgerritKevin Bringard proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Create ingress spoofing rules  https://review.openstack.org/8384515:23
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pcmsdague: ping15:27
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HenryGamotoki: Hi, can you look at https://review.openstack.org/8649415:57
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HenryGamotoki: is it valid to replace '== None' with '== sql.null()' in a query filter?15:58
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/neutron: Update ensure()/reconnect() to catch MessagingError  https://review.openstack.org/8655416:04
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nextone92Hi overlayer16:14
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overlayernextone92, so, in the first figure, the big cloud is completely outside openstack right?16:14
nextone92Yes, this is the easiest use case16:15
nextone92The earlier proposal was to add BGP to every L3 router, however this may be difficult to manage and the use case for that is not completely clear16:16
overlayeralright, and the bluerouter in the imddle is a neutron router or a physical one that joins everything?16:17
nextone92The blue router now is "GatewaySpec"16:18
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nextone92It's an abstraction that allows you to connect the "external network" concept to one or more uplinks16:18
nextone92for example, if one uplink goes down - your network connectivity is not completely interrupted16:19
overlayeralright, i see, the typical l3 router to external network, but with multiple links (multiple external networks ?)16:19
overlayerbut you don't really control the uplink routers right? you only exchange routes with them..16:20
nextone92Yes - that what would it have been originally16:20
nextone92however, there was some concern about putting a router at the edge of Neutron network16:21
nextone92so we have decided to keep it a more neutral "GatewaySpec"16:21
nextone92"GatewaySpec" could be physically implemented as either a router or an instance of something like quagga to exchange routing information but not do the actual routing16:21
nextone92In either case, you would not control uplink routers16:22
nextone92You advertise networks available inside openstack to external uplink routers and import routing information from them to openstack16:22
overlayerright16:23
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overlayerin provider-router I propose a way to configure remote (any hops) routers in such a way that they get directly connected to the VMs (through tunneling)16:25
overlayerso instead of the VMs getting connected to the normal router that connects to the ext-net, they get connected to a badass physical router (e.g.), and the rest is the same16:26
nextone92Are you establishing the tunnel directly to the VM or to the tenant router that the VM is connected to?16:27
overlayerbut as you said, this would be much prettier with some kind of mechanism driver that either makes use of that legacy router, or the normal neutron l3 router16:27
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nextone92You know, I'm not super familiar with  the latest details of that blueprint16:28
nextone92but you may be interested in VPNaaS proposal16:28
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nextone92it looks like you're interested in providing a secure connection to a specific subnet - if I understand you correctly16:28
overlayernextone92 I'm thinking about skipping the tenant router, and just forward the tunnel from e.g. the ML2 plugin towards the external network towards the provider router16:29
overlayerbut I'll need to deepen my knowledge of both neutron plugins and how L3 agent currently works with them16:29
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overlayerVPNaaS has been referred before, but it seems overkill...16:30
overlayerit's basically replacing a physical network connected to one side of the provider router, with a virtual network hosted in the cloud16:31
overlayerwhile keeping other physical networks connected to the router intact, and still able to reach the same network that was once physical but now virtual16:31
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nextone92Okay, so the difference is that your cloud is in the same location as your physical network, is that right?16:32
nextone92e.g. private cloud16:32
overlayerhaving dynamic routing implemented in neutron seems an advantage for this scenario, as the provider-router should be able to always reach that distant virtual network that was once physical16:33
overlayernextone92, from other networks' point of view, yes, same addresses, etc16:33
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overlayernextone92, but the actual coud can be at the other side of the internet, it doesn't need to be private16:34
nextone92Oh okay, I understand16:34
nextone92yes, then your new location could advertise itself to the provider16:34
overlayerand then, through neutron, I could create as many networks as I wanted and then attach them to that provider router as if it were a typical neutron router16:34
nextone92and the traffic will be automatically directed to the new location16:34
overlayerthis last statement can be seen as the second major use case16:35
nextone92yes16:35
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overlayerthe first is the migration from physical to (distant) virtual networks16:35
overlayernextone92, yes, something like that16:36
overlayerthe way I wasn't thinking, so far, was to create end to end tunnels, so it would just work16:37
nextone92I think both of those use cases may possibly be covered by the dynamic routing proposal16:37
nextone92However you will not have added isolation given to you by using tunnels16:37
overlayerbut these announcements may be very useful, one of my concerns is when there's NAT, which is something I haven't yet thought thoroughly16:38
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overlayeryeah, I can see some overlap of the end result16:40
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overlayerone thing mine can't do and yours can is having the provider-router "notified" when new networks are attached16:41
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overlayerI'll print your BP and have a deeper look at it16:42
nextone92Okay, looking forward to your feedback overlayer16:42
nextone92It would be great to discuss full blown provider router at the edge of openstack16:42
nextone92I think there is a lot of value in that concept - and not just dynamic routing16:42
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make default nova_url use a version  https://review.openstack.org/8664616:43
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overlayertotally agree :)16:44
nextone92Have a good one!16:45
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openstackgerritSylvain Afchain proposed a change to openstack/neutron: L3 Metering label as shared  https://review.openstack.org/7009017:12
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Verify ML2 type driver exists before calling del  https://review.openstack.org/8559217:21
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pcarverCan a Neutron router route traffic without floating IPs? i.e. a NAT-free configuration with routable addresses directly on the VMs on a tenant network.17:35
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kevinbentonpcarver: i think disabling snat is what you’re looking for17:41
kevinbentonhttp://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-network/2.0/content/update_router_extgwmodes.html17:41
kevinbentonpcarver: but then you have to have routes setup to point back to the tenant routers for the tenant networks17:42
pcarverkevinbenton: That sounds right. Where is that done?17:42
kevinbentonpcarver: disabling snat?17:42
kevinbentonpcarver: or adding the routes?17:43
pcarverkevinbenton: Well, I'm assuming that I'll take care of routing the subnet to the external IP of the Neutron router, though I need to be sure of doing that correctly.17:44
pcarverI'm reading the link you sent now.17:46
kevinbentonpcarver: yeah, unfortunately the workflow to do that right now isn’t too convenient because i think each tenant router needs to be updated to set the snat flag to false17:46
amotokiHenryG: i just looked the patch. According to the result of sqlalechemy test with echo=True, is seems valid.17:47
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HenryGamotoki: thanks!17:47
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pcarverkevinbenton: Thanks. This gives me something to try in the lab.17:50
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claudiubmestery: hi, do you have time to review again a commit? I applied your comments you left yesterday. :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84227/17:51
mesteryclaudiub: Yes, give me a few minutes17:53
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openstackgerritKyle Mestery proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Test commit for OpenDaylight Jenkins  https://review.openstack.org/8667718:22
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openstackgerritMaru Newby proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Exclude .ropeproject from flake8 checks  https://review.openstack.org/8267618:31
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mlavalleanteaya: if a projecthas only one PTL candidate, is there a poll taking place?18:55
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mesterymlavalle: No, with only one candidate, a poll wouldn't make any sense. :)19:07
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anteayamlavalle: no19:09
anteayathough it seems to be a popular point of confusion this round19:10
anteayahad to respond to a number of emails with the same question19:10
anteayaso I will bring out more documentation around that next time19:10
anteayalike kyle says it wouldn't affect the outcome19:11
mlavalleanteaya, mestery: thanks. It makes sense :-)19:12
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Hitesh_Hello guys,19:35
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Hitesh_I have one query related OVS, what kind of flows do I need to add to ping cross domain VM on same bridge?19:37
Hitesh_I could see that packet from VM1 at br1 receiving by tcpdump and snoop command19:38
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mesteryHitesh_: Was that question meant for #openvswitch perhaps? Flows are added by your agent or controller if you're using Neutron.19:42
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Hitesh_mestery: Currently I am doing it manually, but later I will configure neutron and controller as well..20:05
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Hitesh_mestery: after configuration controller I could see of-msg to bridge as flooding, however, VMs are not giving responce even they have same MAC address20:06
mesteryHitesh_: If you're not using Neutron, I think a better place to ask this question is #openvswitch.20:07
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Hitesh_mestery: Yes, right, but I will move this usecase for nuetron later..20:07
Hitesh_mestery: let me ask it at #openvswitch20:08
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openstackgerritAmir Sadoughi proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add cookie support to ovs_lib, ovs_neutron_agent  https://review.openstack.org/6731620:53
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openstackgerritrcurran proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ML2 Cisco Nexus MD: Remove unnecessary Cisco nexus DB  https://review.openstack.org/8671321:18
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: ping22:03
carl_baldwinkevinbenton: pong22:03
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: can you explain to me what this line does? https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/agent/linux/iptables_manager.py#L39922:03
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: i was under the impression that these rules are executed as a long string22:04
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: rather than read from a file22:04
carl_baldwinIt executes "ip netns exec <ns> iptables-restore" and sends all lines joined as stdin.22:04
carl_baldwinprocess_input=... means that the lines are joins and sent in as stdin.22:05
carl_baldwinstdin is a file descriptor that iptables-restore reads from.22:05
kevinbentonoh i see, it’s piped in then essentially22:05
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carl_baldwinEssentially, yes.22:06
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carl_baldwinSo, the question now is what iptables-restore will handle.  It may be that it cannot accept non-ascii characters.22:07
carl_baldwinkevinbenton: I did a brief search but couldn't find any documentation that stated what it will accept.22:08
carl_baldwinI suspect it is ascii in which case I would vote for not translating any comments.22:08
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carl_baldwinkevinbenton: You might just try passing iptables-restore a non-ascii character and see what happens.22:10
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