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| pranali | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
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| opendevmeet | Meeting started Thu Mar 7 14:00:18 2024 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is pranali. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| pranali | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| pranali | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
| pranali | o/ | 14:00 |
| croelandt | hey | 14:00 |
| mrjoshi | o/ | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:00 |
| tkajinam | o/ | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | @croelandt, before we start, can you use your script and propose specs directory for us? | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:02 |
| pranali | let's start i think everyone is here | 14:03 |
| croelandt | abhishekk: oh, prepare-next-cycle? | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | yeah | 14:03 |
| pranali | croelandt, for 2024.2 , check if you can create it quickly otherwise I will do it after the meeting | 14:04 |
| croelandt | doing it | 14:04 |
| croelandt | right now | 14:04 |
| pranali | croelandt, gr8 Thanks ! | 14:05 |
| pranali | let's start the meeting | 14:05 |
| pranali | #topic 2024.2 PTG | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | ++ croelandt | 14:05 |
| pranali | As everyone knows 2024.2 virtual PTG is during second week of April, | 14:05 |
| pranali | I have created the PTG planning etherpad and added some topics , please add the topics which you want to discuss during PTG | 14:05 |
| pranali | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/2024.2-ptg-glance-planning | 14:05 |
| croelandt | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance-specs/+/911721 | 14:05 |
| pranali | croelandt, that was super quick :) | 14:06 |
| pranali | thanks | 14:06 |
| pranali | ok, moving to next topic | 14:06 |
| pranali | #topic release/periodic jobs updates | 14:06 |
| pranali | rc1 is in next week | 14:07 |
| pranali | and Periodic jobs are all green | 14:07 |
| pranali | moving to next | 14:07 |
| pranali | #topic castellan 4.4.0 and glance unit test change (rosmaita) | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | i think there's nothing to do here now | 14:08 |
| pranali | yeah | 14:08 |
| tkajinam | just review and merge that unit test fix | 14:08 |
| tkajinam | oh, was it merged ? | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | it's merged! | 14:08 |
| tkajinam | then all good | 14:09 |
| tkajinam | one potential follow up is that we may want a fixture class from castellan | 14:09 |
| tkajinam | one thing which surprised me was that glance imports things from castellan.tests directly | 14:09 |
| tkajinam | I'll look into that when I get time | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | probably because the team working on castellan did the glance work, too | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | (for image signature verification) | 14:10 |
| tkajinam | yeah | 14:10 |
| tkajinam | I saw nova is trying to add a few more tests relying on castellan.tests so it may be a good chance to refactor it | 14:10 |
| tkajinam | before we have tight dependency there | 14:11 |
| tkajinam | anyway it's not urgent. thanks for reviewing the change :-) | 14:11 |
| pranali | tkajinam, Thanks ! | 14:11 |
| pranali | moving to next topic | 14:12 |
| pranali | #topic feature/metadata-caching branch has been deleted (rosmaita) | 14:12 |
| pranali | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/632518 | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | yeah, just a point of information in case anyone notices it disappeared | 14:12 |
| pranali | it was created long back ago for metadata caching work experiments | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | make sure you do a 'git fetch --all --prune' and it will be gone from your local repo | 14:12 |
| pranali | rosmaita, yeah | 14:12 |
| pranali | ack | 14:13 |
| pranali | moving ahead | 14:14 |
| pranali | #topic Update about vmware store driver (tkajinam) | 14:14 |
| tkajinam | this is probably a better topic for upcoming ptg but let me give early input | 14:14 |
| tkajinam | as you may know, discussions about vmware support in nova had some progress and the current direction is that they keep the driver, because SAP committed to add 3rd party CI and help maintaining the implementation in upstream | 14:15 |
| tkajinam | (although the situation is still monitored, it's actively being worked on | 14:15 |
| tkajinam | As far as shared in ml, SAP uses only vmware drivers in nova and cinder, so they have no plan to add CI coverage of vmware store driver in glance_store | 14:16 |
| abhishekk | Only concern is we will not be able to verify new functionality support to that driver unless someone volunteers to maintain it and available at crucial time | 14:16 |
| tkajinam | yeah | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | well, we could propose removing the vmware driver and say that you have to use the cinder store instead to use a vmware backend | 14:17 |
| abhishekk | that is another workaround ++ | 14:17 |
| tkajinam | ah, that makes sense | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | it seems reasonable, and then we can use the time not working on vmware store to implement functional tests for the cinder store driver | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | Recently we got issue in s3 which we were unable to debug and provide assist for it,now we are going to discuss that in upcoming PTG | 14:19 |
| tkajinam | yeah | 14:19 |
| pranali | shall we add this topic in PTG etherpad? | 14:19 |
| tkajinam | so I was wondering if we can discuss a bit about CI coverage policy | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | tkajinam: ++ | 14:19 |
| tkajinam | the mailing list discussion is moving toward the direction "someone needs it but do not commit to maintain it" | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | that's the problem is | 14:20 |
| tkajinam | but since glance currently has no strict policy so there is no clear "rule" to reject is | 14:20 |
| tkajinam | to reject it | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | i propose that we say we are definitely planning to remove vmware driver in Dalmatian, and that we focus on a CI policy & implementation at the PTG | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | I agree that we don't have coverage for s3 but for cinder we have tempest coverage | 14:20 |
| tkajinam | ok | 14:21 |
| tkajinam | so I'll update the thread with two things | 14:21 |
| tkajinam | - probably cinder store driver can be an alternative solution | 14:21 |
| tkajinam | - if anyone wants to keep vmware driver then join PTG discussion. however people should note that the current preference in the team is to require 3rd party CI to have actual test coverage. | 14:21 |
| tkajinam | then we can discuss further in PTG. | 14:22 |
| abhishekk | ++ | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | did we merge the deprecation patch? | 14:22 |
| abhishekk | Please include PTG reference etherpad in mail reply as well | 14:22 |
| tkajinam | yeah, deprecation was merged | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | ok, good | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | email proposal sounds good to me | 14:23 |
| pranali | ++ | 14:23 |
| abhishekk | * glance PTG planning etherpad | 14:23 |
| tkajinam | acked for etherpad reference | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | right, i mean email sounds good with the etherpad link included | 14:24 |
| tkajinam | I'll try to join the glance ptg... I may bring a small topic (migration script cleanup) as well, but need to arrange my availability as I may have some topics for nova for next cycle. | 14:25 |
| tkajinam | that's all I wanted to discuss now. thanks. please feel free to chime in to the thread | 14:25 |
| abhishekk | cool, thank you tkajinam san for your contribution in glance | 14:25 |
| tkajinam | I mean the mailing thread, if you want | 14:26 |
| pranali | tkajinam, we can schedule those topics according to your availability | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | tkajinam: what is your time zone? | 14:27 |
| tkajinam | yeah. though I myself doesn't have strong preference about vmware driver. we have to make sure Michal, who require the driver, is available for discussion | 14:27 |
| tkajinam | jst, utc +9 | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | this will take some creative scheduling ... i am utc-5 and dansmith is utc-8! | 14:28 |
| tkajinam | usual ptg/meeting slots(14-16 utc) works | 14:28 |
| tkajinam | I'm fine with staying up late. that's much better than waking up early :-P | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | :D | 14:28 |
| abhishekk | I am missing those days when we were used to discuss these things in person :/ | 14:29 |
| abhishekk | Everyone at that time staying up late and waking up late :p | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | yes, it would be nice to all be in the same TZ and then having beverages together at the end of the day | 14:30 |
| abhishekk | ++ | 14:31 |
| tkajinam | I can't agree more | 14:31 |
| pranali | let's move to open discussions :) | 14:32 |
| pranali | #topic Open Discussion | 14:32 |
| pranali | anyone has anything else to highlight ? | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, as a TC member you can propose that we want this way of PTG :P | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | only a tc member for like 2 more weeks! | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | So do it quickly :P | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | get it approved | 14:33 |
| pranali | abhishekk, then I would be able to attend only half of the sessions everyday :P | 14:34 |
| croelandt | rosmaita: Can't move tons of people without taking into account the environmental impact | 14:35 |
| abhishekk | we will come to paris croelandt | 14:35 |
| croelandt | so a round-trip US <-> France is basically half your carbon quota for the year, in the most optimistic scenario | 14:36 |
| croelandt | eg, bullshit scenario | 14:37 |
| croelandt | The reality is that there is no future with air travel for the masses | 14:37 |
| pranali | anything else guys ? or we are good to wrap up ? | 14:38 |
| pranali | ok, assuming there's nothing, let's wrap it up :) | 14:40 |
| pranali | Thanks everyone for joining ! | 14:40 |
| pranali | #endmeeting | 14:40 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Thu Mar 7 14:40:16 2024 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:40 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/glance/2024/glance.2024-03-07-14.00.html | 14:40 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/glance/2024/glance.2024-03-07-14.00.txt | 14:40 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/glance/2024/glance.2024-03-07-14.00.log.html | 14:40 |
| tkajinam | thanks | 14:40 |
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