Wednesday, 2021-05-05

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oneswig#startmeeting scientific-sig11:01
openstackMeeting started Wed May  5 11:01:30 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.11:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.11:01
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oneswigGreetings \o/11:02
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oneswigno fixed agenda for today11:03
oneswig#topic AOB11:03
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b1airoevening11:08
oneswigevening b1airo11:08
oneswigvery quiet today (unsurprising perhaps due to lack of planning)11:08
b1airohello again oneswig11:08
b1airoand post PTG11:09
oneswigright... perhaps we should call it a night, I don't think I had anything beyond the big splash RH have made with support of open infra labs.11:10
b1airoi attended a part of the inaugral ARCOS (Australian Research Container Orchestration Service) symposium this afternoon https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/arcos-symposium-day-2-tickets-14516818695511:11
b1airoi missed the open infra labs thing, or rather, hadn't seen it yet11:12
b1airobut yes, happy to call it - i was only here to keep a weather eye on happenings post PTG. perhaps next week or following we could do a roundup and discussion on PTG happenings that are of interest / impact to the SIG community11:15
b1airopotentially invite a PTL or two11:15
oneswigSounds like a good idea.  I saw that Jon Mills got involved in the Linuxbridge discussion but didn't see much else11:15
oneswigThis was the RH news btw - https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-and-boston-university-announce-major-partnership-advance-open-hybrid-cloud-research-and-operations-scale11:16
b1airoi need to start tuning in to the mailing lists again...11:16
oneswigme too, been too busy of late to look beyond the four corners of my own desk11:17
oneswigOK, time to close?  Let's aim to focus on future session content.11:20
b1airo"Red Hat is donating software subscriptions, valued at $551.9 million" ... hmm, this says a lot about list prices. be fascinating to know what that is actually covering. half a billion could probably get you Red Hat Ceph Support on a semi decent scale cluster, though no larger than Dan @ CERN has spun up before11:21
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b1airoyep, catch you later oneswig !11:22
oneswigOK speak to you then!11:22
oneswig#endmeeting11:22
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timburke#startmeeting swift21:00
openstackMeeting started Wed May  5 21:00:38 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is timburke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
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timburkewho's here for hte swift meeting?21:00
seongsoochoo/21:01
mattoliverauo/21:01
timburkeagenda's at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift -- just following up on  in-progress work21:03
timburkefirst up21:03
timburke#topic sharding/shrinking21:03
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timburkemattoliverau, i saw you broke up the new state patches; how's that looking?21:04
mattoliverauyeah, just trying to keep it managable21:05
mattoliverauI wanted to play with the row_cleaved tracking idea in the Cleave Contexts.21:05
mattoliverauIt has tidied the ACTIVE states patch alot (still working on it though)21:06
mattoliverauand I "think" we can do something similar to stop the listing gaps caused by a similar bug with CLEAVED, so have something around that as a follow up.21:06
kota_hello, sorry for late21:06
timburkenice21:07
timburkekota_, no worries!21:07
mattoliverauso 3 patches deep so far, but still just a POC WIP.21:07
timburke:-)21:08
mattoliverauSo far so good. Haven't had a chance to play with your other idea yet. just wantd to see what I already had looked like. But if it solves another issue with the "same" approach then that's a win.21:08
timburkei know acoles is out, but his tombstone counting in https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/782832 is looking pretty good -- i hope to have a review up for it later today21:09
mattoliverauoh yeah, I need to look at that again too. Hopefully we'll have the last peices of shrinking in place soon!21:10
timburkeiirc those were the two main efforts on sharding21:11
timburkenext up21:11
timburke#topic relinker21:11
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timburkemattoliverau, i'm digging the new recon data at https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/779655/21:11
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timburkewant me to squash in my followup at https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/789643/ (once i fix the flake8 error)?21:12
mattoliverauthanks :) and thanks for the follow up! Yes! it's a good clean up21:12
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timburkei still wouldn't mind getting https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/783731 in -- any chance you'd be able to take a look?21:14
timburke(Rehash the parts actually touched when relinking)21:14
mattoliverausure thing, I did take a quick look yesterday, just haven't tested it yet21:16
mattoliverauin my SAIO21:16
timburkethanks!21:16
timburkeaside from those, we've got the signal-handling and recon-aggregation patches -- i started taking a look at the first; i'll plan to rebase it when i push up the re-spin of the recon patch21:18
timburkenext up21:18
timburke#topic stale EC frags21:18
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timburkelooks like the current approach is at https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/78883321:19
timburkeand you've started to take a look, is that right mattoliverau?21:19
mattoliverauyeah, it's pretty great21:20
mattoliverauI have a bunch of questions in it. But mostly my -1 is around some testing. But I've got a follow up that addresses those https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/78912921:20
mattoliverauI'll chat to acoles when he's back and hopefully get it squared up and then I can +2 it :)21:21
timburkegreat! i look forward to deleting some lurking frags that have now been scattered across thousands of disks :-)21:21
timburke(it *does* make me wonder what our replicated policy looks like... i suspect the dark data watcher would find some replicated data that should be deleted...)21:22
timburke...which brings us to our last topic21:23
timburke#topic dark data watcher21:23
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timburkei still haven't reviewed either of zaitcev or dsariel's patches, unfortunately. and i've still not done anything with my own patch, either21:24
mattoliveraume either.. so I don't have much to say21:25
timburkei think that's most of what's been going on this week21:25
timburke#topic open discussion21:25
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timburkeanything else we ought to bring up?21:25
mattoliveraunot off the top of my head. I've been meaning to go through the action items from PTG but haven't yet.21:26
timburkeoh yeah... i promised to look at getting container creation time into account listings...21:27
mattoliverauBut maybe something we can think about in some future meeting (no rush though). Just to make sure we (ahem I), don't forget21:27
mattoliverauyeah, and I was going to look at cluster health with current tools and at least write up some doc or something.21:28
mattoliveraubut anyway might be something we add to the meeting agena every month or so to make sure we don't forget :shrug: just thinking out loud :)21:29
timburkepretty sure it'll require a new column. shouldn't be too bad, but i was debating for a bit about whether to stuff it in with the last modified, similar to what we do with container listings iirc. but the upgrade path makes me nervous, if an old account server gets a new db with packed columns rsynced to it...21:29
timburkegood idea! i'll put it on for next time (and dig through notes to remember what action items we came up with :-)21:30
timburkeif there isn't anything else, i'll let you guys get on with your mornings21:30
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timburkethank you all for coming, and thank you for working on swift!21:31
timburke#endmeeting21:31
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mattoliverauthanks timburke and nice early mark :)21:31
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