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| abhishekk | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 1 14:00:06 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is abhishekk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| abhishekk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
| Steap | o/ | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:00 |
| dansmith | o/ | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | lets wait couple of minutes for others to join | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | Short agenda today as well | 14:01 |
| jokke | o/ | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | cool, rosmaita might join soon, lets start | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | :D | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | #topic Updates | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:02 | |
| abhishekk | Xena PTG is almost 3 weeks away | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/xena-ptg-glance-planning | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | Please add your name to the list of attendants if you are planning to attend the same | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | also add the topics of your interest for the discussion | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | After next weeks meeting I am going to finalize the topics and allot day/time for discussion | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | moving ahead | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | #topic release/periodic jobs update | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release/periodic jobs update (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:04 | |
| abhishekk | We are good on release front | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | Periodic job, one failure in week related to oslo-tips job, will have a look at that after the meeting | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | everything else is green | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | Moving ahead | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | #topic Glance bug tracking | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Glance bug tracking (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:05 | |
| abhishekk | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/glance-bug-tracker | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | I have added some bugs to above tracker which are good to close as won't fix | 14:06 |
| dansmith | I'd also like to call attention to this: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance/+/783668 | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | as well as some of the bugs which has patches submitted and need reviews | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | yep, kindly review the above patch as well | 14:07 |
| dansmith | we're still hitting that infrequently in zuul, so it'd be good to get that in so we can start looking for that log message | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | I will be checking store and client bugs as well (mostly early next week) | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | Moving to last topic in the list | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | #topic Guidelines for reviewers | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Guidelines for reviewers (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:09 | |
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| abhishekk | I have tried to put something together as a guidelines for reviewers (mostly for us) | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance/+/783893 | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | Would like to have your opinion/suggestions for the same | 14:10 |
| abhishekk | If you have any questions/concerns/suggestions we can discuss on the review itself | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | that's all for today from me | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | moving to Open discussion | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | #topic Open discussion | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:11 | |
| * abhishekk we get here really fast | 14:12 | |
| rosmaita | i'll take a look at the review guidelines | 14:12 |
| jokke | I have nothing atm. Will have a look of that as well | 14:12 |
| Steap | Can we Ninja close https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-glanceclient/+bug/1844298 ? As Brian said, this is no longer relevant | 14:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1844298 in Glance Client "python-glanceclient doesn't implement find() method" [Undecided,New] | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | Just for the update, tomorrow will be holiday in most of the countries | 14:12 |
| Steap | Monday may also be a holiday in a lot of countries | 14:13 |
| jokke | Oh yeah, I'll be back Tue tomorrow and Mon off here | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | ack | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | jokke, cool, longest weekend :D | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | Steap, will have a look at the bug | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | Steap, good to close that bug | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | i guess i should have just closed that bug as invalid or irrelevant or something | 14:14 |
| Steap | the life of that bug is amazing | 14:15 |
| Steap | it was valid | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | I just remembered that we have a patch on master to drop lower constraints job | 14:15 |
| Steap | then we waited 6 months | 14:15 |
| Steap | it became invalid | 14:15 |
| Steap | and then we waited 6 months to close it :D | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | :P | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | bugfix by procrastination! | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | haha | 14:15 |
| Steap | THe OSC devs may start to think we don't like their project | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | is there any OSC dev around, I haven't seen for long | 14:16 |
| jokke | I don't know about the rest of ye, but I don't :P And it's nothing personal against them, just the project | 14:16 |
| abhishekk | back to lower constraints job, so are we intending to keep those for master branch ? | 14:17 |
| dansmith | I don't think that most projects are expecting to keep the l-c jobs on master, | 14:17 |
| dansmith | because as identified, breaking or not, they don't provide anything useful | 14:17 |
| dansmith | so by leaving them we're just doing extra CI work until they break, and then we'll likely remove them so.. not much point | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | that is what concluded in last TC meeting I guess | 14:18 |
| jokke | Well they do. They keep the lower boundary of our requirements in check. Which nothing else is testing | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | Ok, I will check the usefulness of it and decide accordingly | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | but if we intend to keep it then we need to remember to drop it from stable branch as soon as we hit the release | 14:20 |
| dansmith | they test that our own internal stuff runs with some arbitrary set of pins | 14:20 |
| dansmith | they don't test that our service actually works with that, or that it actually works with all the other services at that boundary, especially if the others are dropping it | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | a related question is how to maintain the minima in the requirements file | 14:21 |
| dansmith | I'm not sure what the point of dropping it on stable is and not master | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | well, it's sort of a sanity check | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | which i think is jokke's point | 14:22 |
| abhishekk | kind of | 14:22 |
| dansmith | it's a sanity check that a small fraction of our least-relevant tests run in isolation with those packages installed | 14:23 |
| dansmith | most of those tests don't even use those libraries since they're largely mock-type tests | 14:24 |
| jokke | mhm, if we don't even test that the lower boundaries of our requirements will install together, we just should remove those as well and keep requirements as dependency + blacklist | 14:24 |
| dansmith | jokke: yeah I think that's the point | 14:24 |
| dansmith | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance/+/782768/2/lower-constraints.txt | 14:24 |
| jokke | I'm happy that I'm not responsible for packaging for any distro if we go there ;) | 14:25 |
| dansmith | our packaging people have said they don't care about or even look at this right? | 14:25 |
| abhishekk | yep, i think so | 14:26 |
| jokke | IIRC zigo was quite heavily against dropping the indication what the expected bottom is | 14:26 |
| dansmith | yes, the one voice that caused this whole thing to be drawn out, | 14:26 |
| dansmith | despite nobody else caring | 14:26 |
| dansmith | and even still, I don't think that it actually feeds anything in debian, it's just that he thinks it's nice to see | 14:27 |
| dansmith | we dropped the file from stable here: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance/+/782769 | 14:27 |
| dansmith | so if we don't merge the master thing, the lower-constraints.txt is going to come back to life when X becomes stable/X | 14:27 |
| dansmith | that makes no sense | 14:28 |
| abhishekk | so either like other projects we get rid of it on master or we should have bot job to remove it as soon as we cut a stable branch | 14:29 |
| abhishekk | I am inclining towards former point | 14:29 |
| dansmith | since no distros consume master, that makes it pretty useless :) | 14:29 |
| abhishekk | point | 14:30 |
| dansmith | meaning, having l-c on master, and then deleting it for all stable branches | 14:30 |
| jokke | well after release, but sure. how about removing unit & functional tests too as no-one deploys them either ;P | 14:31 |
| abhishekk | those are for developers to make sure the changes they made are not breaking and working as per expected | 14:31 |
| dansmith | and the functional tests _do_ run the regular requirements | 14:32 |
| jokke | But yeah, my whole point is we should remove the low boundaries from requirements.txt too | 14:32 |
| dansmith | dropping l-c testing on stable also means that if we were to backport something that required something higher than the lower limit, we wouldn't even know it was broken | 14:32 |
| jokke | if we don't test that they even install together | 14:32 |
| abhishekk | Ok, I guess we should let other reviewers express their thoughts on review for the same | 14:34 |
| abhishekk | I have nothing else for today | 14:35 |
| abhishekk | Steap, rosmaita anything else ? | 14:35 |
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| abhishekk | I take that as no | 14:36 |
| abhishekk | wishing Happy Easter in advance to all those who are celebrating | 14:36 |
| jokke | have a good one everyone o/ | 14:37 |
| abhishekk | Have nice weekend | 14:37 |
| abhishekk | Thank you all | 14:37 |
| abhishekk | #endmeeting | 14:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:38 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 1 14:38:00 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2021/glance.2021-04-01-14.00.html | 14:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2021/glance.2021-04-01-14.00.txt | 14:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2021/glance.2021-04-01-14.00.log.html | 14:38 |
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