Friday, 2021-03-26

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slaweq#startmeeting neutron_drivers14:01
openstackMeeting started Fri Mar 26 14:01:01 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)"14:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers'14:01
slaweqhi14:01
mlavalleo/14:01
lajoskatonaHi14:01
rubasovhi14:01
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haleybhi14:02
slaweqamotoki told me that he will be available today14:02
slaweqso we are still waiting for ralonsoh, njohnston and yamamoto14:02
ralonsohsorry14:03
slaweqI pinged njohnston on neutron channel, maybe he will join soon14:03
slaweqwe have quorum now so I think we can start14:03
slaweq#topic RFEs14:04
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slaweqfirst one14:04
slaweq#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/192006514:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1920065 in neutron "Automatic rescheduling of BGP speakers on DrAgents" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Renat Nurgaliyev (rnurgaliyev)14:04
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ralonsoh(sorry, I don't have enough knowledge on this topic)14:08
slaweqfor me this sounds like reasonable new config option, very similar like we have e.g. for dhcp agents already https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/a9fc746249cd34cb7cc594c0b4d74d8ddf65bd46/neutron/conf/agent/database/agentschedulers_db.py#L2614:09
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haleybi would agree, gives the operator flexibility14:11
lajoskatonaperhaps frickler has some opinion14:11
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mlavalleyeah, it seems reasonable and as slaweq says, we already do it for dhcp. Why not in this case?14:11
mlavallein fact, IMO, it is more a plain vanilla bug than a RFE14:13
slaweqthere is new config option proposed, and it will change behaviour, so that's why I wanted to treat it as RFE14:14
slaweqso if ralonsoh have nothing agains, I will mark it as approved14:15
ralonsohok14:15
slaweqthx14:15
slaweqso that one was fast :)14:15
slaweqsecond one14:15
slaweq#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/192112614:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1921126 in neutron "[RFE] Allow explicit management of default routes" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to Bence Romsics (bence-romsics)14:15
slaweqrubasov: that's Yours :)14:15
rubasovhi again14:15
* slaweq will vote -1 due to yesterday's match ;)14:16
slaweq^^ just kidding :)14:16
rubasovone note: this makes sense to me on top of the multiple external gateways and ecmp work14:16
rubasovslaweq: :-D14:16
rubasovtechnicalli I hope I managed to phrase it orthogonally, but the use case is for ecmp enabled default routes14:17
slaweqso it's "follow-up" after https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1905295 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1880532, right?14:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1905295 in neutron "[RFE] Allow multiple external gateways on a router" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to Bence Romsics (bence-romsics)14:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1880532 in neutron "[RFE]L3 Router should support ECMP" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to XiaoYu Zhu (honglan0914)14:18
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rubasovin its use, definitely14:18
slaweqok14:19
rubasovmaybe the development can be done in parallel14:19
ralonsohwell, maybe on top of https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/743661/14:20
ralonsohanyway, the spec makes sense14:20
ralonsoha good addition to previous RFEs14:21
mlavalleyes, it makes sense to me as well14:21
rubasovralonsoh: yep, that sounds right14:21
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mlavalleand you were very careful to take care of the backwrards compatibility, which is always a concern14:21
rubasovlajoskatona commented some extra ideas to make the switch to explicit mode even more seamless14:22
rubasovhttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-specs/+/781475/1/specs/xena/explicit-default-routes.rst#5914:23
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slaweqaccording to lajoskatona's comment, couldn't it be even simpler without that extra switch at all?14:24
lajoskatonaAs I see that would be usefull for operators to make it easier to use14:24
slaweqfor compatibility, default route would be always installed as extraroute by neutron14:24
slaweqand user would be able to specify other default routes as extraroutes14:24
slaweqmaybe I'm totally wrong, I'm just thinking loud now :)14:25
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rubasovslaweq: do you mean without the implicit/explicit bit?14:25
slaweqrubasov: yes14:25
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rubasovwouldn't that change our current behavior? since we don't report the default route today as an extraroute14:26
slaweqyes, maybe it's better to have additional switch14:28
rubasovI can imagine unexpected problems if we make the default route an extraroute in all cases14:29
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rubasovfor example somebody has some automation that deletes all extraroutes14:29
rubasovthat person would be surprised when it deletes his default route too14:30
slaweqyes, right14:30
slaweqso let's have new flag for that14:30
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slaweqok14:34
slaweqso +1 from me for that rfe14:34
ralonsoh+114:34
haleyb+114:35
mlavalle+114:35
slaweqso, approved14:35
slaweqthx rubasov for proposal14:35
rubasovthank you all for your time14:35
slaweqand I'm looking forward for implementation in next cycle :)14:35
rubasovit is coming14:36
slaweqthat's all what I had for today14:36
slaweqdo You want to talk about anything else?14:36
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slaweqok, I take it as "nothing" :)14:37
mlavallenot from me14:37
slaweqthx for attending the meeting and have a great weekend14:38
slaweqo/14:38
ralonsohhave a nice weekend14:38
slaweq#endmeeting14:38
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openstackMeeting ended Fri Mar 26 14:38:07 2021 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)14:38
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rubasovhave a nice weekend14:38
lajoskatonaBye14:38
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