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abhishekk#startmeeting glance14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb 18 14:00:04 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is abhishekk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
abhishekk#topic roll call14:00
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abhishekk#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda14:00
abhishekko/14:00
jokkeo/14:00
abhishekkLets wait couple of minutes for others to join14:00
abhishekkLooks like just two of us14:03
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jokkeThere's Brian14:03
abhishekkyep14:03
abhishekklets start14:03
abhishekk#topic release/periodic jobs update14:03
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rosmaitasorry  i'm late14:03
abhishekkno worries14:04
abhishekkFinal release of non-client libraries - 2 weeks14:04
abhishekkOne patch is open which seems good to get in14:04
abhishekkhttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance_store/+/77549714:04
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abhishekkBefore next meeting I will prepare release note patch and then following Monday will propose the release patch14:05
jokkekk, lets have a pass over the bugs as well and just make sure we get any criticals/quick ones smacked down before releasing14:06
abhishekkdansmith, not able to see the updates as well as topic updates in the heading14:06
abhishekkis it same for jokke and rosmaita ??14:07
jokkeI see 'em14:07
dansmithhere now14:07
dansmithnetsplit I guess14:07
abhishekkahh14:07
abhishekkjokke, right, good to go through bugs as well14:08
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abhishekkMilestone 3 - 3 weeks away14:08
abhishekkBunch of patches are open for review14:08
abhishekkand not enough time14:09
abhishekkwe also need to consider delays in gate14:09
abhishekkKindly start reviewing open patches14:09
abhishekkPeriodic jobs - Couple of failures due to fix merged in glance_store14:10
abhishekkPatch to skip test - https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance/+/77640614:10
abhishekkWe have a fix as well but that will not work unless glance_store is released and available to use14:10
abhishekkEverything is described in the commit message and related bug14:11
jokkekk14:11
abhishekkany questions?14:11
abhishekkok, moving ahead14:12
abhishekk#topic Critical reviews14:12
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abhishekkGlance Secure rbac14:12
abhishekkThis is a top priority for us14:12
abhishekkpatches are up, functional tests are up as well14:12
abhishekkAnd I am suggesting that we should get this done as EXPERIMENTAL in this cycle14:13
abhishekkThere is a way to use deprecated policies14:13
abhishekkSo we will not mark it stable if and unless everything is working as expected14:14
jokke++14:14
abhishekkAny inputs/concerns/suggestions ?14:14
jokkeLets take the Experimental into the patches and reviews then14:15
jokkeshould not be a big change and I think at this stage it's good idea14:15
abhishekkcool, I will update the patches to mark those as experimental14:16
abhishekklbragstad, may be busy with other work, so I will take this up14:16
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rosmaitawhat does this mean from the operator perspective?14:16
rosmaitai guess we mention in release notes and say turn on enforce_scope in oslo.policy at your own risk?14:17
abhishekkyes14:17
jokkerosmaita: that to use this  they need to specifically enable it and for audit purposes it's flagged as experimental for this release14:17
abhishekkand report if they found any issues14:17
rosmaitaok, that makes sense14:18
abhishekkgreat14:18
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lbragstado/ here now if there is anything specific to discuss14:19
abhishekk#action abhishekk to update secure-rbac patches to mention Experimental status14:19
abhishekklbragstad, So we are deciding to have secure-rbac as experimental in this cycle14:19
lbragstadok14:19
abhishekkwill let you know if any specific help is required14:20
lbragstadsounds good - thank you for the help14:20
abhishekkThank you for your patience and work14:20
abhishekkmoving ahead14:21
abhishekkTask show API14:21
abhishekk#link14:21
abhishekkhttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance/+/763739 (base patch)14:21
abhishekkNeeds reviews14:21
abhishekkI have also posted client changes for the same14:21
dansmithand I posted a tempest test14:21
abhishekk#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-glanceclient/+/77640314:21
dansmithI think I'm mostly good on that series, I guess I have one more PS to look at that I haven't yet14:22
dansmithsomehow I didn't notice you refreshed it14:22
abhishekk#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tempest/+/77567914:22
abhishekkTempest test for new API ^^14:22
abhishekkdansmith, ack14:22
abhishekkDistributed image import14:23
abhishekkSpec - https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance-specs/+/77409714:23
abhishekkSpec was in merged conflict, so please put your vote again14:24
abhishekkImplementation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance/+/770682 (base patch)14:24
abhishekkAs decided in weekly meeting two weeks before, we are opting for image_property solution this cycle and then make improvements to use location in next cycle14:25
abhishekkI am hoping to have everyone on board with approach14:25
rosmaitaquick question14:26
abhishekkshoot14:26
rosmaitadid we merge dan's patch making os_glance* a restricted namespace for properties?14:26
abhishekkyes14:26
dansmithand the tempest test for that just merged14:26
rosmaitaand i thought i saw code somewhere so that some of these are hidden for non-admin user image-show ?14:27
abhishekkyou might have seen that in implementation patch14:27
dansmithhttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance/+/769976/12/glance/api/v2/images.py14:27
dansmithcheck hidden_properties there yeah14:28
rosmaitaok, cool14:28
abhishekkhttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance/+/769976/12/glance/api/v2/images.py#145614:28
rosmaitaline 145614:28
rosmaita:)14:28
abhishekk:d14:29
dansmithtests in here: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance/+/769976/12/glance/tests/unit/v2/test_images_resource.py for that14:29
abhishekkthere are also other bunch of open reviews14:29
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abhishekkSo requesting everyone to put their reviewers hat on14:30
abhishekkthat's it for today14:30
abhishekkMoving to Open discussion14:31
abhishekk#topic Open discussion14:31
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rosmaitai want to go back to the glance_store change that broke tests14:31
dansmithI just discussed that with rajat14:31
abhishekkok14:31
rosmaitawe have the periodic job that checks glance_store-tips14:31
dansmithand I think we have a better plan14:31
rosmaitai mean about catching this in the first place14:32
abhishekkrosmaita, yes and there only I have  managed to catch this failure14:32
rosmaitawe have the glance_store tips jobs set up so you can "check experimental" and run them14:32
abhishekkhttps://zuul.openstack.org/build/0875b94694ee4a408e5a210ea720936b14:32
rosmaitai guess the problem is that you have to do this on a glance patch, not a glance store patch14:33
dansmithright14:33
abhishekkright14:33
dansmithglance_store could have a glance job that uses it unreleased though14:33
dansmithI can write one of those if you want14:33
rosmaitabut i think the glance_store zuul.yaml can refer to jobs defined in glance zuul.yaml14:33
dansmithsure14:33
rosmaitayeah, that would be good14:33
rosmaitawe need to have some glance_store gate that runs against glance master, i think14:34
dansmithclearly :)14:34
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jokkeI think hanving glance_store tested has been in general a topic since the lib was broken off from glance14:35
abhishekkthat reminds me, we also needs to fix broken requirements job on stable branches14:36
rosmaitabtw, dansmith you should review the glance_store tips jobs in glance zuul.yaml, at some point i was wondering if i had set them up correctly14:36
jokkebut we do run tempest tests as part of glance_store gating ... I guess that's issue was just something tempest is not testing14:36
abhishekkjokke, I think you have enough idea about what to fix14:36
dansmithjokke: these were functional tests in glance14:37
dansmithso no tempest14:37
dansmithwe need to run glance's functional against unreleased glance_store14:37
abhishekkand we do have job which runs again cinder multi store but this issue was for single store14:39
dansmithwell, unless that runs with unreleased glance_store it won't matter, and didn't in this case right?14:40
* dansmith looks14:40
abhishekkdansmith, hmm14:40
dansmithyeah, only released glance_store14:40
abhishekkright14:40
abhishekkanything else?14:43
jokkeyeah any test job that is not part of the glance_store [check, gate, tips] is just taking the g_s from pypi14:43
abhishekkI think only tips jobs are running on glance_store master14:44
rosmaitai think that's right14:45
abhishekkevery other check/gate downloads it fron pypi14:45
dansmithyeah, but we can tell a job to get it from master14:45
jokkewell the glance_store check andgate jobs are for sure running against master, gerrit ain't pushing these patches on the lib pulled from pypi14:45
abhishekkyes that is correct14:46
dansmithzuul can run glance jobs against glance_store master with a patch applied if you tell it to14:46
abhishekkuse_from_lib?14:46
rosmaitai just remembered the problem with the tips job for glance_store, it fails after something bad has already merged into glance_store14:46
dansmithin zuulv2, required_projects14:46
rosmaitawhich i guess is helpful as an advance warning before we release glance_store14:47
dansmithrosmaita: this is why the glance_store should run glance master with the proposed patch against glance_store, even for functional tests since they depend on it14:47
abhishekk++14:47
rosmaitai agree14:47
jokkedansmith: last time it was discussed, it was generally frowned upon to test with unreleased dependencies. That's why those tips jobs were created so we can get heads up when something is breaking before release14:47
rosmaitagorka has cinderlib's tox.ini set up to always run against cinder master, maybe we need to do that here14:48
jokkeand hard gate breakages14:48
dansmithjokke: I'm talking about testing glance_store that way not glance14:48
dansmithglance should probably *also* have a job that runs against the glance_store master, but it needs to test against released for sure14:48
jokkedansmith: yeah, I was writing nd missed your note of specially referring to running glance functional as part of g_s14:49
jokkethe problem with that is, that any change that needs coordination (as in we need something merged to store and then to glance) will be in deadlock14:49
abhishekkrosmaita, So I have one question about rbac14:50
jokkethat's why we have the tip jobs so we can catch these before release time14:50
abhishekkto mark it as experimental I need to do it in every policy that we are defining right?14:50
abhishekkjokke, ^14:50
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dansmithwe should never have something merge to glance_store that needs a matching thing to land in glance at the same time, or vice versa14:50
abhishekkor justt a releasenote will do?14:50
rosmaitaabhishekk: i am not sure about the logistics of that14:51
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abhishekkrosmaita, ack14:51
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rosmaitais the situation that the known-good-policies (that is, the old ones) will be marked as deprecated, but we want the new ones to be considered experimental?14:51
rosmaitaso we want people in wallaby to use the deprecated ones, but to be ready for the change14:52
abhishekkI think that's what we want14:52
rosmaitai think then we need to make it clear in the release notes, and also what the oslo.policy config on the glance-api nodes needs to be14:53
rosmaitai think the defaults will be fine14:53
rosmaitabut should call them out14:53
jokkeabhishekk: easiest way to do that is to add deprecated config option in glance that set to false (by default) overwrites the oslo_policy config. flag that config option enabling Experimental policy feature and allow the oslo_policy to be configured with the new enforcement14:53
rosmaitawe need to check with lbragstad about this, htough14:53
abhishekkjokke, ack14:54
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jokkeabhishekk: then once we flag that stable, we can flip it true by default and remove the config option on the following cycle once we don't want people to use the old policy code at all anymore14:54
rosmaitajokke: that sounds like a good plan14:55
abhishekkjokke, ack, will work on this solution14:56
jokkethat way you don't need to do it on every individual policy14:57
rosmaitayeah, you don't want to have to annotate every policy14:57
abhishekkone question14:57
abhishekkthat flag is by default false in oslo policy14:57
abhishekkso do we need to overwrite it in glance?14:57
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rosmaitai think we do, it gives us a failsafe14:58
abhishekkcool14:58
rosmaitaso mostly we'll be overwriting False with False, but what the heck14:58
jokkeabhishekk: yes because we want to have the experimental feature enablement being very clear decision. Not just that flipping some other config option suddenly turn experimental feature on too14:58
abhishekkok14:59
rosmaitai agree with jokke about this14:59
abhishekkwill ping you if have any doubts14:59
abhishekkthat's all, time's up15:00
abhishekkthank you all15:00
abhishekkhave a nice weekend15:00
abhishekk#endmeeting15:00
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rajivmuchelii have asked my question in #openstack-glance channel,15:00
gagehugo#startmeeting security15:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb 18 15:01:40 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'security'15:01
gagehugo#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/security-agenda agenda15:02
fungiohai15:02
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fungii'm guessing it's just us today15:08
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gagehugoo/15:09
belmoreirao/15:10
fungioh, welcome belmoreira!15:10
gagehugofungi: thanks for sending out those emails15:11
belmoreira:) actually sorry... late and in the wrong channel15:11
fungiaww, you're still welcome to talk security belmoreira, but i understand15:11
fungigagehugo: yeah, and i did a bunch of housecleaning old public reports of suspected vulnerabilities, setting won't fix for our advisory tasks if they'd sat for a very long time without anyone able to confirm the problem, or where we'd proposed various non-vulnerability report classes and gotten deafening silence for months/years15:11
fungiwe're now down to 14 public reports of suspected vulnerabilities:15:11
fungi#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossa15:12
gagehugoI saw, thanks for the housekeeping too :)15:12
fungi(that number may be higher if you're logged in as an account with view of any private security bugs)15:12
fungiand yeah, the requests for help to the mailing lists are targeted individually at the 7 project teams who have deliverables implicated in specific bugs from that list15:13
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fungisome bugs impact more than one team's deliverables15:13
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fungiso hopefully we can whittle that number down even more in the coming days/weeks15:13
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gagehugothat would be great15:15
fungias always, anyone in the community, regardless of their involvement with openstack, is welcome to help us out with those bug reports in any way they're able15:15
fungia majority of those remaining 14 have been sitting for a long time, so a lot of them are probably able to be closed15:16
fungieven if it's just a pragmatic "this is a very low risk and we're not going to get around to fixing it"15:16
gagehugoyeah15:17
gagehugoit would be good to close them out if able15:17
fungiif we keep the count low like this, sending out periodic reports/reminders shouldn't be hard15:18
gagehugoagreed15:18
fungii could probably even script something up to generate those from api queries to lp/sb15:18
gagehugofungi: any other updates for this week?15:20
gagehugoI don't have anything15:20
gagehugoStill debating about maybe changing the meeting to every other week or 1x a month15:21
fungii didn't have anything else, and happy to switch to a two-week, four-week, or one-month cadence15:21
fungiit does seem attendance is extremely low for these, and we often have nothing on the agenda. no need to meet for the sake of meeting15:22
gagehugoyeah15:22
gagehugoplus I'm usually double booked at this time (but more available post DST)15:22
gagehugoI'll send out an email fishing for opinions15:23
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fungiwe can also reschedule, sure15:26
fungisounds good, thanks!15:26
gagehugoI have meetings on a lot of days haha but sure, I'd be up for potential rescheduling15:27
gagehugothanks fungi! Have a good rest of the week15:29
gagehugoalso thanks belmoreira for attending :)15:29
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fungithanks gagehugo!15:31
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lbragstadgmann are we having the secure default policies pop up team meeting?18:03
gmannlbragstad: hi18:04
gmannyeah, let me start.18:05
lbragstadno worries if you weren't planning on it - i was just curious :)18:05
gmannI have not much things to share, if you have then we can have18:06
lbragstadi don't - i'm just working through things in cinder atm18:07
gmanngetting the tempest things fixed/add for alt reader etc and then new tempest release18:07
gmannok, then let's skip today?18:07
lbragstadsounds good - i do have a tempest client question as it pertains to cinder, but it's probably not meeting worthy18:08
gmannok, we can discuss in qa or cinder channel18:08
lbragstadok18:08
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