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| yasufum | Hi tacker team | 08:00 |
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| takahashi-tsc | Hi | 08:00 |
| manpreet | hi | 08:00 |
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| yoshito-ito | hi | 08:01 |
| ueha_ | hi | 08:02 |
| keiko-k | Hello | 08:02 |
| yasufum | #startmeeting tacker | 08:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 29 08:02:35 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is yasufum. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 08:02 |
| yasufum | First of all, I would like to thank you for making efforts for reviewing patches for tacker RC1. | 08:04 |
| yasufum | We have merged successfully almost of patches planed to. | 08:05 |
| yasufum | I would appreciate if you continue to review remained patches. | 08:06 |
| yoshito-ito | Yes, we have some patches remained. Do we have a target date to merge them? | 08:08 |
| yasufum | ASAP. It is going to be merged to master and stable/ussuri. | 08:08 |
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| yoshito-ito | stable/victoria? | 08:11 |
| yasufum | sorry, you are right :) | 08:11 |
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| yasufum | There are some from NEC ready to be reviewed, but others are remained in status of merge conflict. | 08:14 |
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| yasufum | takahashi-tsc: Is there anything to share? Or just we waiting for? | 08:16 |
| takahashi-tsc | I've heard that now NEC are fixing in a hurry... Please review after fixed. | 08:16 |
| yasufum | OK. Thanks. | 08:17 |
| yasufum | Today, I would like to share the status of fixing failures in functional tests. | 08:20 |
| yasufum | #topic fix-ft-failures | 08:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "fix-ft-failures (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:21 | |
| yasufum | As you may know, we have some problem in FT, ceilometer and gnocchi exactlly. | 08:22 |
| yasufum | And also barbican. | 08:23 |
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| yasufum | It is going to be fixed for contributions from takahashi-tsc and gmann, and almost done for ceilometer. | 08:24 |
| yasufum | However, we have some additional failures other than them, for example several timeout errors. | 08:25 |
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| yasufum | So, we have also started to fix them. One of the fix has proposed from Itsuro although it is not fixed completely yet. | 08:27 |
| yasufum | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/754873/ | 08:27 |
| yasufum | Please review it after it is completed. | 08:28 |
| takahashi-tsc | Yes, this is important fix. I'll start to review it. | 08:29 |
| yasufum | All FT failures should be fixed in the next release possiblly. | 08:29 |
| yasufum | Thanks | 08:30 |
| yasufum | That’s all | 08:30 |
| yasufum | Is there any other topicis? | 08:30 |
| yoshito-ito | I have a small topic related to W-release. | 08:30 |
| yasufum | OK, please go ahead | 08:31 |
| takahashi-tsc | FYI, ceilometer fix is merged. so I start to revert ceilometer installation. Please review after completed. | 08:31 |
| takahashi-tsc | Sorry, that's all. go ahead. | 08:31 |
| yoshito-ito | I updated the etherpad #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Tacker-PTG-Wallaby for the coming vPTG. | 08:31 |
| yasufum | #topic w-ptg | 08:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "w-ptg (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:31 | |
| yoshito-ito | also I registerd blueprints related to the topics. | 08:31 |
| yoshito-ito | I hope you to check the blueprints and the topics. | 08:32 |
| yoshito-ito | It's also welcome to add new topics to the etherpad because it seems not so many people put their names on it. | 08:33 |
| yasufum | Thanks for sharing | 08:35 |
| yasufum | I will update timetable as agenda before the vPTG. | 08:36 |
| yasufum | I would appreciate if you write your entries before that, and propose specs if possible. | 08:37 |
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| takahashi-tsc | Thanks, I also hurry to add a few topics. | 08:38 |
| yasufum | Thanks. Is there any other comments? Or go to the next topic? | 08:40 |
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| yasufum | OK. It seems nothing today anymore. Thanks for joining. | 08:44 |
| yasufum | bye | 08:44 |
| takahashi-tsc | thanks | 08:44 |
| yasufum | #endmeeting tacker | 08:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 29 08:44:58 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2020/tacker.2020-09-29-08.02.html | 08:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2020/tacker.2020-09-29-08.02.txt | 08:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2020/tacker.2020-09-29-08.02.log.html | 08:45 |
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| trandles | hi martial_, oneswig | 20:58 |
| oneswig | hi trandles, ready to go? | 20:59 |
| oneswig | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 29 21:00:17 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 21:00 |
| oneswig | #chair martial_ | 21:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: martial_ oneswig | 21:00 |
| oneswig | the game's afoot :-) | 21:00 |
| martial_ | woohoo :) | 21:00 |
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| martial_ | Nice HPC agenda | 21:00 |
| oneswig | o/ | 21:00 |
| oneswig | for the summit schedule - looks like some good talks. trandles have you recorded yours yet? | 21:01 |
| trandles | Yup, Julia, Jacob and I recorded yesterday. I think Julia uploaded today. | 21:01 |
| trandles | we used Bluejeans | 21:01 |
| trandles | went smoothly | 21:02 |
| oneswig | I haven't come across bluejeans in ages | 21:02 |
| oneswig | I think our team were recording via Google Meet. | 21:03 |
| trandles | We messed around with Meet initially but switched due to ease of use. We all presented and controlled slides and found switching easier with Bluejeans. | 21:04 |
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| martial_ | Looking forward to listening to those :) | 21:04 |
| oneswig | trandles: is your talk on Bifrost, or something equivalent to it? | 21:05 |
| trandles | Ironic at LANL | 21:07 |
| trandles | we were going to do a proper demo of provisioning a cluster with Ironic + Ansible, but the format and limited time worked against us | 21:08 |
| oneswig | Coincidentally we have a project underway not too far from this. Half of it is covered in the Cambridge CSD3 talk (https://www.openstack.org/summit/2020/summit-schedule/events/24616/lessons-learnt-building-cambridge-universitys-csd3-supercomputer-with-openstack) but they've figured out a neat workflow for hardware onboarding involving barcode scanners and Neutron for BMC ports as well. | 21:11 |
| trandles | I'll check that out | 21:12 |
| oneswig | I think that talk will also be on how to apply image updates to a 1000-node cluster in a way that's both cloud-native and not disruptive to the service availability. | 21:13 |
| oneswig | Quite a lot of trouble went into making that work. | 21:14 |
| trandles | it's a difficult problem | 21:15 |
| trandles | something along the lines of rolling updates, we've dabbled but never dared to adopt it in widespread use | 21:15 |
| oneswig | The obvious solutions to it turn out to be naive in one way or another. I think the key was to have Slurm schedule jobs that would trigger the node getting nuked and paved with the new image. Immutability in a rolling update but scheduler-aware. | 21:18 |
| trandles | We have a Slurm prolog that will reboot the node if a sentinel file is found, that's the easy part. It is indeed difficult unless the scheduler is aware of just what's happening. You want to resume rebooted nodes, but you don't want the scheduler to accidentally launch a single job across two different images. Without scheduler help it's just one big race condition. :( | 21:21 |
| oneswig | That makes sense. | 21:22 |
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| b1airo | Morning! | 21:23 |
| martial_ | Welcome Blair :) | 21:23 |
| martial_ | #chair b1airo | 21:23 |
| oneswig | My pick of our bunch is the coral reef cloud talk, which covers some ideas around enabling reservation to guarantee availability | 21:23 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo martial_ oneswig | 21:23 |
| oneswig | Hi b1airo, morning! | 21:23 |
| b1airo | I'm mildly distracted for next 10 mins - barista duties... | 21:23 |
| oneswig | On the subject of upcoming talks, there is one tomorrow from the folks at the Open Infra Labs in Massachusetts | 21:24 |
| oneswig | presentation on Project Caerus:improving coordination between compute and storage systems for big data and AI workloads (https://gitlab.com/open-infrastructure-labs/caerus) by Theodoros Gkountouvas | 21:24 |
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| oneswig | Wednesdays 9:00 AM to 10:00 AM Boston, MA time (1:00 PM - 2:00 PM GMT). Zoom Call:https://bostonu.zoom.us/j/95680241139?pwd=S01qQjg5MFVCNlR4VFNQVW1MZnBQZz09&from=msft | 21:24 |
| oneswig | Tim's favourite :-( | 21:25 |
| trandles | LOL | 21:25 |
| oneswig | On a different subject, anyone making regular use of the Ansible network modules? Every time I return to this, it seems to be broken in a new way. | 21:27 |
| oneswig | ... ansible network modules seem guaranteed to stop a conversation :-) | 21:31 |
| trandles | just like they stop your network? | 21:32 |
| trandles | I haven't looked at them. I can ask some colleagues doing the bulk of our Ansible work. | 21:32 |
| oneswig | One of those times where automation is so much more effort to set up than it would ever have saved... | 21:32 |
| trandles | is this host networking? switch management? | 21:33 |
| trandles | interface control? firewall? | 21:33 |
| oneswig | Switches. Configuring a new deployment with details of physical connectivity and portchannels. | 21:33 |
| trandles | Ah, I think our networking team does use ansible for switch management. | 21:34 |
| trandles | AFAIK we're pretty much all Arista. | 21:34 |
| trandles | If you want a contact let me know. | 21:34 |
| martial_ | including VLANs? | 21:35 |
| oneswig | Those are a lot better but alas this is Dell OS 9, which is cranky to automate. | 21:35 |
| oneswig | martial_: yes those bits too. In this case it's only the VLANs for control plane (maybe 5-6), the tenants are on VXLAN for this one. | 21:36 |
| martial_ | very nice | 21:36 |
| martial_ | it must help that everything is the same vendor too | 21:36 |
| oneswig | thanks trandles but unless your contact has some old Aristas he/she was about to ditch, I don't think they can help :-) | 21:37 |
| trandles | Looks like our Arista management via Ansible is still being worked out. Only production use of Ansible and networking is to manage some Cumulus white box cluster ToR switches... | 21:37 |
| trandles | He did say that they just had a demo with Arista/Ansible a few weeks back. Maybe hit up your Arista contacts? | 21:38 |
| oneswig | Can't change the facts on the ground, alas, but thanks anyway. | 21:40 |
| oneswig | martial_: can we plan a session including Rion in two weeks to talk min.io? | 21:42 |
| martial_ | let me ask him right now | 21:43 |
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| martial_ | possibly AFK | 21:45 |
| martial_ | will follow up on our slack | 21:45 |
| oneswig | sounds good. | 21:45 |
| oneswig | Thanks martial_ | 21:45 |
| oneswig | #topic AOB | 21:48 |
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| oneswig | topic implies there was purposeful discussion of business to this point. Apologies for that :-) | 21:48 |
| trandles | I see the SIG has some forum time reserved? | 21:49 |
| trandles | or is that unconfirmed? | 21:49 |
| oneswig | Yes I saw a mail about that. Haven't checked when, do you have details? | 21:49 |
| trandles | I don't. I saw a webpage via link in something to openstack-discuss...if that isn't vague enough... :/ | 21:50 |
| oneswig | Just had a look but didn't turn anything up on the schedule. | 21:51 |
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| trandles | https://www.openstack.org/summit/2020/summit-schedule/global-search?t=forum | 21:53 |
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| trandles | gah, that doesn't look like it | 21:54 |
| oneswig | doesn't look like it does it trandles | 21:54 |
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| trandles | I know I saw that spreadsheet-style page with the different rooms named for releases somewhere | 21:54 |
| oneswig | something I said? Everyone appears to be leaving... IRC at play presumably | 21:54 |
| oneswig | trandles: I think that was separate, the PTG. | 21:55 |
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| trandles | maybe I'm confused like normal | 21:55 |
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| oneswig | #link PTG registration - 26th October https://www.eventbrite.com/e/project-teams-gathering-october-2020-tickets-116136313841 | 21:56 |
| oneswig | That looks like it. | 21:56 |
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| martial | I see the calendar at http://ptg.openstack.org/ptg.html | 21:57 |
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| martial | and we have our etherpad already https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/wallaby-ptg-scientific-sig | 21:57 |
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| b1airo | Yeah loading for me now | 21:57 |
| martial | but I do not see us on the schedule | 21:57 |
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| oneswig | We are on Monday | 21:58 |
| b1airo | Monday | 21:58 |
| martial | Thanks ... Monday, Cactus | 21:58 |
| b1airo | Beer after... 🥺 | 21:59 |
| oneswig | likewise :-) | 21:59 |
| b1airo | oneswig: can I catch you on Slack in 5? | 21:59 |
| oneswig | Sure, let's do that. | 21:59 |
| oneswig | final call, time's up | 22:00 |
| trandles | bye all | 22:00 |
| oneswig | any more to add? | 22:00 |
| oneswig | thanks all | 22:00 |
| oneswig | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 22:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 29 22:00:30 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2020/scientific_sig.2020-09-29-21.00.html | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2020/scientific_sig.2020-09-29-21.00.txt | 22:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2020/scientific_sig.2020-09-29-21.00.log.html | 22:00 |
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