Wednesday, 2020-09-09

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oneswig#startmeeting scientific-sig11:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep  9 11:00:17 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.11:00
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oneswiggreetings11:01
oneswig#link agenda for today's meeting https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_SIG#IRC_Meeting_September_9th_202011:01
verdurinHello - I'm loosely here.11:11
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verdurinRead the minutes about Ironic/kexec - any developments since then?11:18
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oneswigHi verdurin, I'm here even more loosely it seems11:19
oneswigWas focused on something else for abit11:20
oneswigkexec - I put my name on the poll but I haven't seen a date set.  Hold on I'll double-check11:20
oneswigNothing in yet that I can see.11:22
oneswigOne particularly interesting aspect of kexec was an idea that bios reboots could be avoided entirely between redeployments (with some violation of black-box abstractions)11:25
verdurinYes, that did sound nifty.11:28
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oneswigThe other item from the previous week was the CANOPIE-HPC side-conference to Supercomputing - CFP ends tomorrow I believe.  If you have a containerised HPC use case to talk about...11:35
verdurinHave to scarper now - thanks anyway.11:39
oneswigOK I think I will close the session.  Lunch waits11:39
oneswig#endmeeting11:39
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liuyulong#startmeeting neutron_l314:03
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep  9 14:03:16 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is liuyulong. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:03
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liuyulongHi there14:03
liuyulong#topic Announcements14:05
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liuyulongSeems another one person meeting, : )14:05
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liuyulong#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2020/networking.2020-09-08-14.00.log.html#l-1214:06
liuyulongLet's recall the team announcments.14:06
liuyulongSeems there are some L3 related works will not be able to added to Victoria cycle.14:07
liuyulongThe time is running really fast, I just remember that we had the V PTG a few weeks ago.14:08
liuyulongAnd now it will be done then14:09
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liuyulongSo any BPs/SPECs/RFEs which were not merged should be move to the W folder after the feature freeze.14:10
liuyulong#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/neutron-wallaby-ptg14:10
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liuyulongAnd the PTL is gathering the topic for W vitual PTG, if you have, go ahead and write it down. : )14:11
liuyulongOK, actually no announcements from me, just some repeats...14:12
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liuyulongOK, let's move on14:13
liuyulong#topic Bugs14:14
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liuyulong#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-September/017054.html14:15
liuyulong#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-September/016924.html14:16
liuyulongThe last two weeks bug list from our deputy.14:16
liuyulong#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/189284614:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1892846 in neutron "AttributeError in l3-agent changing HA router to non-HA" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)14:17
liuyulongSeems a race condition in agent side between changing the router HA-attribute (added) and removing the old one.14:18
liuyulong#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/747922/14:19
liuyulongA fix have been made by slaweq, so we can move to there.14:20
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liuyulongIIRC the router delete action will bypass all the other router processing action by default.14:22
liuyulongFor one router, it can not be run in deleting and adding/updating in parallel.14:22
slaweqhi14:24
slaweqthis patch is kind of WIP because I need to address ralonsoh's comments there14:24
liuyulongSo maybe the race condition I said upper is not right. We could revisit the code path to make sure that.14:25
liuyulongslaweq, ack14:25
liuyulong#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/189362714:26
openstackLaunchpad bug 1893627 in neutron "For neutron-l3-agent, after the execution of the linux command fails, it is not displayed which command failed to execute" [Wishlist,Fix released] - Assigned to boluan ace (boluanace)14:26
liuyulongThe fix https://review.opendev.org/#/c/749076/ is merged.14:27
liuyulongIt will be useful for developers when their external command get failed.14:27
liuyulongOK, no more L3 bugs from the deputy's list. Let's revisit some old ones.14:28
liuyulong#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/188053214:28
openstackLaunchpad bug 1880532 in neutron "[RFE]L3 Router should support ECMP" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to XiaoYu Zhu (honglan0914)14:28
liuyulongI noticed that ZhuXiaoYu is here.14:28
liuyulongZhuXiaoYu, hi14:29
ZhuXiaoYuhi14:29
liuyulongThe rendered doc looks good to me now.14:30
ZhuXiaoYuI just uploaded the functional test case today.14:30
liuyulong#link https://storage.bhs.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_7db/729532/30/check/openstack-tox-docs/7dbc2e2/docs/specs/victoria/l3-router-support-ecmp.html14:30
ZhuXiaoYuglad to hear that14:31
liuyulongZhuXiaoYu, I have one suggestion, it's better to add some OSC command examples to illustrate the user workflow.14:32
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ZhuXiaoYuSorry, but what is OSC command?14:34
liuyulongSorry I lost the connetion14:35
liuyulong"openstack client"14:35
liuyulongThe openstack client command examples can be the enrichment of the spec which will also tell the user that you can directly enable ECMP routing it by the exsitings.14:36
ZhuXiaoYuDoes the extra route has OSC?14:36
liuyulongYes14:37
liuyulongPlease try this "openstack router set --route destination=<subnet>,gateway=<ip-address> <router>"14:38
ZhuXiaoYuThanks for your advice, I will add that part later14:39
liuyulongZhuXiaoYu, cool14:39
liuyulongNext one is from me14:40
liuyulong#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/181788114:40
openstackLaunchpad bug 1817881 in neutron " [RFE] L3 IPs monitor/metering via current QoS functionality (tc filters)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889)14:40
liuyulongThis has the spec https://review.opendev.org/#/c/658511/14:40
liuyulongand the POC https://review.opendev.org/#/c/675654/14:40
liuyulongBut seems no feedbacks after the RFE approvement.14:41
liuyulongIt should be move to W probably, : )14:42
liuyulongLast one14:42
liuyulong#link https://launchpad.net/bugs/187730114:42
openstackLaunchpad bug 1877301 in neutron "[RFE] L3 Router support ndp proxy" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to yangjianfeng (yangjianfeng)14:42
liuyulong#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/728628/14:42
liuyulongThe SPEC ^^14:42
liuyulongThe related API and extension is fine to me.14:43
liuyulongBut I have pointed some technical problems on data plane.14:43
liuyulongIt's about the GARP actions in IPv6 angle of view, aka the RA should be send out when the VM is migrating or HA state changing.14:44
liuyulongIt's more and more like a new floating IPv6 resource.14:45
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liuyulongEverthing is aligning with floating IP gradually.14:47
liuyulongOK, no more bugs from me now.14:47
slaweqI have one old one to mention14:47
liuyulongSure, go ahead14:48
slaweqactuallyu patch for review: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/601336/14:48
slaweqI just wanted to say that I made it configurable now and it seems it is ready for review and working14:48
liuyulongYes, I noticed that.14:48
liuyulongThank you for adding that.14:48
slaweqthx a lot14:49
slaweqI spent a lot of time on it recently14:49
liuyulongYes, it is complicated.14:50
liuyulongUpstream CI will booting the real Ubuntu/CentOS image to run the keepalived?14:51
liuyulongs/boot14:51
liuyulongIf not, the test may not be easy to add and verify.14:51
slaweqno, u/s ci for now don't have any test for this new behaviour14:52
slaweqbut test should be easy to do in multinode dvr env14:52
slaweqI was locally just adding new IP address in the vm and send garp using arping tool14:52
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liuyulongOK, I will re-test it if I have enough time. : )14:54
slaweqthx a lot liuyulong14:54
liuyulongOK, let's end here.14:59
liuyulongThank you guys.14:59
liuyulongbye14:59
liuyulong#endmeeting14:59
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timburke#startmeeting swift21:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep  9 21:00:01 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is timburke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
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timburkewho's here for the swift meeting?21:00
kota_hi21:00
seongsoochoo/21:00
rledisezo/21:01
timburkenot too much on the agenda; mostly end-of-cycle wrap-up21:02
timburkehttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift21:02
timburke#topic ptg21:02
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claygthe new release notes looks amazing!  nice work everyone21:02
timburkereminder to sign up at https://www.eventbrite.com/e/project-teams-gathering-october-2020-tickets-11613631384121:02
timburkeclayg's been doing a great job of adding topics to the etherpad21:03
timburke#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/swift-ptg-wallaby21:03
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timburkeand if you haven't yet, please respond to the doodle; i'll try to have meeting times scheduled this week21:03
timburke#link https://doodle.com/poll/ukx6r9mxugfn7sed21:03
claygi did the doodle!  and I have a ticket for the VPTG - but eventbrite still seems to let me want to register (again?)21:04
timburkeclayg, i think you're good then ;-)21:04
claygoh i'm GREAT 😉21:04
timburkei still need to do the registration iirc... i'm slacking off21:05
timburkeany questions or comments on the summit/ptg?21:05
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timburkeall right then21:07
timburke#topic releases21:07
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timburkeit's that time in the cycle again!21:07
timburkei've got some draft release notes for swift at p 750537 -- please take a look and let me know if there's anything that should be corrected or clarified21:08
patchbothttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/750537/ - swift - Authors/ChangeLog for 2.26.0 - 1 patch set21:08
timburkei ought to get some client release notes going, too -- but i was hoping we'd be able to add in a fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-swiftclient/+bug/187343521:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1873435 in python-swiftclient "Established connection is never closed on Python 2.7" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Tim Burke (1-tim-z)21:09
timburkei believe it should be resolved by p 73640121:09
patchbothttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/736401/ - python-swiftclient - (Mostly) revert "Cleanup session on delete" - 3 patch sets21:09
timburkeand then p 721051 more-explicitly manages some connections21:10
patchbothttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/721051/ - python-swiftclient - Close connections created when calling module-leve... - 5 patch sets21:10
timburkeanybody think they'd have time to take a look at thos in the next day or so?21:10
timburkeclayg, you'd at least taken a look at them once upon a time ;-)21:12
claygyeah but I hate that entire series of "fixes" 😡21:12
claygif someone else could load it into their head and either confirm or deny some of the insanity that would probably be helful21:13
timburkei never particularly liked it going back to p 674320 so.... 🤮21:14
patchbothttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/674320/ - python-swiftclient - Cleanup session on delete (MERGED) - 2 patch sets21:14
claygisn't anytime you have to add a __del__ like "doing it wrong"?21:15
timburkethat's my gut reaction, yeah. part of why i was ready to just rip it back out21:17
claygok, well p 736401 doesn't look so bad - i'm not sure what's going on in p 72105121:18
patchbothttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/736401/ - python-swiftclient - (Mostly) revert "Cleanup session on delete" - 3 patch sets21:18
patchbothttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/721051/ - python-swiftclient - Close connections created when calling module-leve... - 5 patch sets21:18
claygI'm guessing they're separate because they're independently mergeable - and we'd be happier getting one of them than neither?21:19
timburkei broke them up because you didn't seem to like them being together!21:19
claygwell, I'll commit to looking at the first one - seems like we want to make sure py3 doesn't show the resource leak error and py2 goes back to what it was doing before the __del__ was added21:21
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timburkethe original trouble is that if you're using the module-level functions, we "helpfully" create a connection (and therefor requests.Session) for you, but then don't clean it up. the __del__ was a more-or-less straightforward way to appease a resource warning under py3, but (apparently?) it caused an fd leak on py221:23
timburkei'm fairly certain that if we've got an explicit close plumbed in there (as in the second patch), the __del__ can be removed without reintroducing the warning on py321:24
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timburkeall right, well -- that's all i've got21:27
timburke#topic open discussion21:27
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timburkeanything else we should discuss today?21:27
claygI was gunna give an update on shrinking with https://review.opendev.org/#/c/741721/ - it's going well, but I've discovered some more stuff "in the wild" that I want to create test cases for21:28
patchbotpatch 741721 - swift - add swift-manage-shard-ranges shrink command - 5 patch sets21:28
timburkewhat were some of the new edge cases?21:29
claygso i'm using matt's graphviz helper - or some version of it that takes input from some dumps of shard ranges I'm pulling out of the db nodes21:30
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claygI think what's happening is when there's "parallel tracks" (like a fork that comes together) the "chain building" code that makes the accepter list breaks early21:31
claygbut the mechanics of marking a sr as shrinking in the root - having the replicas pick up all the overlapping acceptors - and then draining rows out ... WORKS GREAT!21:32
claygso it's all about picking the right path and marking bad guys as shrinking in the root now - basically all done by the typing21:32
claygand virtual beers21:33
timburke\o/21:34
timburkehave you started developing heuristics for which side ought to win out?21:34
claygno, just eyeballin' it 😬21:34
timburkewell, the more it happens, the better we'll get at dealing with it :-)21:35
claygwhen there's orphan track that start in the middle of nowhere or end early it's really easy to see "which side ought to win"21:35
claygyeah, right now I have a LOT of shard ranges to shrink - it'll go quick when the code just "always does the right thing" - but pretty soon I'll be wanting to have it pick the ones that need to shrink for me21:36
timburkeanything else we ought to bring up?21:36
clayg... and don't really have a plan to express that in code ... I was looking at p 722570 but I don't grok yet21:37
patchbothttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/722570/ - swift - WIP: PLaying around with a basic shard-cleanup tool - 3 patch sets21:37
timburkei'll try to get some stable releases out once i've got 2.26.0 done21:37
timburkeall right, let's call it early then21:39
timburkethank you all for coming, and thank you for working on swift!21:39
timburkeplease do take a look at the release notes; i feel like we've done an impressive amount this cycle21:40
timburke(or maybe i just need to make sure i get two releases out again next cycle ;-)21:40
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