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| abhishekk | #startmeeting glance | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 9 14:01:15 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is abhishekk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | #topic roll call | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
| jokke | o/ | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:01 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | welcome all :D | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | short agenda | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | lets start | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | #topic release/periodic jobs update | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release/periodic jobs update (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:02 | |
| abhishekk | V2 is 2 weeks away | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | We need to review all the specs for Victoria on priority basis | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | Image encryption is merged, sparse image upload and dansmith's policy specs are in good shape | 14:03 |
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| dansmith | yes please :) | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | We need to focus on Duplicate downloads, cinder multiple stores support and remaining specs in order | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | Regarding periodic job, 4 tips job of py36 unit tests failed yesterday for glance_store, fix is already merged, green now | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | So all good at the moment | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | moving ahead | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | #topic Should we change the spec approval policy? | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Should we change the spec approval policy? (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:05 | |
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| abhishekk | I want your opinion on this | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | Earlier we started this because we have enough of contributors to take care of work | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | situation is different for last 2-3 cycles | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | the way it is now, only the PTL can merge a spec ... i think leave it up to the PTL how many +2s to require | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | everyone is busy with enough work in hand which delaying the review process which might result in loosing interest of new contributors | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | i mean, on a per-spec basis | 14:08 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, I think it's probably good to not require every core's +2/ | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | there may be uncontroversial specs | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | but also some where you want everyone to have looked at them | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | yes, in that case I will personally ping all the members to have a look | 14:08 |
| dansmith | we do that in nova, controversial specs require lots of buy-in | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | such as unified limits, duplicate downloads etc | 14:09 |
| dansmith | my spec has had four cores vote +2 at various times across minimal changes, but not all at once | 14:09 |
| dansmith | getting them all to +2 at the same time seem like it might be difficult | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | correct | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | i think it makes sense to be flexible about this | 14:10 |
| jokke | I think we've all been there. I'm fine leaving it to the PTL, just want to make sure rosmaita & smcginnis don't feel left out. It was indeed bit different store when I introduced the requirement when we were all more or less fulltime glance | 14:11 |
| jokke | or full time openstack at least with more time for glance ;) | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | So IMO we should come back to traditional way of having two +2's for simple/straight forward specs and more than 2 for some controversial specs | 14:11 |
| jokke | s/store/story/ | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | yes no offense here, I know everyone is giving their best here | 14:12 |
| smcginnis | abhishekk: That sounds like a good plan to me. | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | smcginnis, thank you | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, jokke ?? | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | sounds good to me | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | Cool | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | Moving ahead | 14:14 |
| jokke | abhishekk: yes I'm good with the plan. Maybe make sure the spec exists at least over a weekly meeting so everyone interested will have heads up and time to review. So how about no 1day specs where quick read and merge? | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | jokke, sounds good to me | 14:15 |
| smcginnis | jokke: ++ | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | I will make sure to highlight important specs and status in our weekly meeting (Starting from next) | 14:15 |
| jokke | abhishekk: sounds great. | 14:16 |
| abhishekk | ok, moving to open discussion | 14:16 |
| abhishekk | #topic Open discussion | 14:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:16 | |
| abhishekk | As discussed in PTG, I have noted down TODO's list in glance | 14:17 |
| jokke | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/738675/ | 14:17 |
| abhishekk | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akuBhqmJfAC13Oi8-PjVZCwpX4KjotworWU_2w03QZA/edit?usp=sharing | 14:17 |
| abhishekk | I need to provide access though | 14:17 |
| jokke | smcginnis: rosmaita: ^^ we would need you two as that was collab between myself and abhishekk | 14:17 |
| jokke | I just updated the commit message as I had bug open for it, just forgot the tag | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | I will try to copy this spreadsheet using my personal mail id and will open for all | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | ok, i can look at that today | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | Will add TODO's from store and client also | 14:18 |
| dansmith | jokke: rosmaita smcginnis: yeah, please, I need that to be merged before my full stack of 9000 dependencies will run :D | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | We will discuss more about this in our next meeting | 14:19 |
| smcginnis | Ah, just bug link added. I could have sworn I already reviewed that. | 14:19 |
| jokke | abhishekk: good job, will you just open the doc or do you want us to request access from that link? | 14:19 |
| jokke | smcginnis: you did indeed | 14:19 |
| jokke | smcginnis: and yes, just the missing bug link changed | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | jokke, I am going to open it for all | 14:20 |
| jokke | abhishekk: ++ | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | we have plenty of time, so I would like to finalize how we should proceed on race condition thing | 14:21 |
| abhishekk | #link Fix race condition in copy image operation | 14:21 |
| abhishekk | #link https://review.opendev.org/737596 | 14:21 |
| abhishekk | Unique exception comment is easy to fix though, problem is where do we fix the race condition :D | 14:22 |
| dansmith | yeah, I feel pretty strongly that it's important for the API to be consistent here, | 14:23 |
| dansmith | because when I was trying to write the client side of this, it's difficult to detect the difference between "things are slow" and "the API told me I should wait a long time for a thing to be done, because I got my 20x" | 14:23 |
| dansmith | obviously fixing the race is the important part for correctness, but multi-boot of lots of instances at a time *will* hit the situation where two novas ask and don't realize that one request is being silently ignored | 14:24 |
| abhishekk | other way to deal with this is to add revert to each task which might fail and cleanup those properties there | 14:25 |
| jokke | abhishekk: I will be very generous with my -2 for that :P | 14:26 |
| abhishekk | :D | 14:26 |
| abhishekk | smcginnis, rosmaita could you please also have a look at this patch? | 14:27 |
| smcginnis | Will do. | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | ok, will put it on my list | 14:28 |
| abhishekk | smcginnis, thank you | 14:28 |
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| rosmaita | abhishekk: you mean https://review.opendev.org/737596 ? | 14:29 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, yes | 14:29 |
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| jokke | So smcginnis rosmaita just for context. The problem is that the copy-image has race, currently we're just in swamp with it. abhishekk & dansmith want to put locking in place, which I'm not fond of but it looks like one of the best options to tackle this. | 14:29 |
| jokke | The question is when and how do we trigger that lock and clean it | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | ok | 14:29 |
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| abhishekk | You will also get the clear picture when you will go through the comments | 14:30 |
| smcginnis | OK, thanks. That helps. | 14:30 |
| abhishekk | Cool that's it for today | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | quick question: how are we looking on prospective new glance cores? | 14:31 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, that's difficult to say as we don't have much new reviewers at the moment | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | i was afraid you'd say that :( | 14:32 |
| abhishekk | I am trying to connect some guys | 14:32 |
| jokke | or even old reviewers outside of this group | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | will ask them if they are interested for the same | 14:33 |
| jokke | rosmaita: feeling like getting too busy to keep up with glance anymore? | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | i am right at this minute! | 14:34 |
| abhishekk | lets revisit this again two weeks from now | 14:34 |
| jokke | ouch ... please try to avoid burning yourself out | 14:34 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, I would suggest to stay onboard at least for this cycle | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | i can do that | 14:35 |
| abhishekk | I will ping you for important patches only | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | just want to see light at the end of the tunnel | 14:36 |
| jokke | rosmaita: we try to keep your load as minimum as we can | 14:36 |
| abhishekk | I will stand holding torch there :d | 14:36 |
| abhishekk | jokke, ++ | 14:36 |
| abhishekk | Just FYI, I will not be around tomorrow, my little sister is getting engaged this weekend | 14:36 |
| jokke | I'll keep abhishekk supplied with fresh batteries for his torch :D | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | :) | 14:37 |
| abhishekk | lol | 14:37 |
| abhishekk | most probably not able to check mails as well | 14:37 |
| jokke | abhishekk: enjoy and relay our best wisher for her | 14:37 |
| abhishekk | thank you | 14:37 |
| jokke | wishes | 14:37 |
| abhishekk | could you please restore your +2 on Dan's spec | 14:38 |
| abhishekk | any thing else guys? | 14:38 |
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| jokke | not from me, I'll reread that spec | 14:39 |
| abhishekk | ack | 14:39 |
| abhishekk | thank you all | 14:39 |
| abhishekk | have a nice weekend | 14:39 |
| jokke | thanks all | 14:40 |
| abhishekk | #endmeeting | 14:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:40 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 9 14:40:45 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2020/glance.2020-07-09-14.01.html | 14:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2020/glance.2020-07-09-14.01.txt | 14:40 |
| smcginnis | Thanks! | 14:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2020/glance.2020-07-09-14.01.log.html | 14:40 |
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| raildo | #startmeeting policy-popup | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 9 18:00:29 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is raildo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'policy_popup' | 18:00 |
| raildo | gmann, o/ | 18:00 |
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| gmann | o/ | 18:01 |
| gmann | raildo: hi | 18:01 |
| raildo | gmann, yo, how things going? | 18:02 |
| gmann | i am working locally to get json to yaml stuff but have not pushed up yet | 18:03 |
| gmann | may be by next week i will be ready with those | 18:03 |
| raildo | gmann, great news :) | 18:03 |
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| raildo | #topic Review Requests | 18:03 |
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| gmann | any progress or request form project side? that will be good for us to add in list | 18:04 |
| raildo | for the cyborg patch: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/699102/ looks like a good start to me besides the current comment on the commit message | 18:04 |
| raildo | besides that I saw this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.policy/+bug/1886857 and I'll be working on it soon | 18:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1886857 in oslo.policy "Improve documentation of what data is used in checks" [High,Triaged] | 18:05 |
| gmann | I think cyborg need work on deprecation of old rules and doc but i have not checked that patch in detail. | 18:05 |
| raildo | gmann, do you any any contact from cyborg team that we can poke about it? | 18:06 |
| raildo | gmann, or should we just go ahead with this one cyborg's patch owner? | 18:06 |
| gmann | we can contact brin and sunder but let's put comment on review first and then we can start the discussion on any help they need | 18:07 |
| raildo | ack | 18:07 |
| gmann | 1886857 is good to fix, i will add it in my review list | 18:08 |
| raildo | I'll have the wiki update by EOD with the AI from last week | 18:08 |
| raildo | #topic Open Floor | 18:08 |
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| gmann | +1, thanks | 18:08 |
| raildo | anything else? | 18:08 |
| gmann | nothing else from my side. | 18:09 |
| raildo | so let's call it a short meeting today :) anything else we can sync on keystone channel | 18:09 |
| raildo | gmann, have a good one sir! | 18:09 |
| gmann | sure, thanks raildo | 18:10 |
| raildo | #endmeeting | 18:10 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 9 18:10:08 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:10 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/policy_popup/2020/policy_popup.2020-07-09-18.00.html | 18:10 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/policy_popup/2020/policy_popup.2020-07-09-18.00.txt | 18:10 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/policy_popup/2020/policy_popup.2020-07-09-18.00.log.html | 18:10 |
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