Monday, 2020-06-22

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mhen#startmeeting image_encryption13:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jun 22 13:00:20 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mhen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'image_encryption'13:00
mhen#topic Roll Call13:00
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mhenhi hi13:00
fungihowdy mhen!13:00
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rosmaitao/13:01
mhenI'll represent Luzi this and next week13:02
fungishe sent a great status summary to the ml13:04
mhenright13:04
mhen#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-June/015536.html13:04
mhenlet's begin :)13:05
mhen#topic Barbican Consumer API Update13:05
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mhenany news?13:05
mheniirc rosmaita wanted to bring up the topic of having the secret consumers api in the python-barbicanclient in the Barbican meeting13:08
rosmaitayes, i am in favor of that13:08
mhenhas anybody heard anything about how that went?13:08
fungii didn't see redrobot speak up yet, so maybe he's not around yet today13:09
rosmaitai don't remember hearing anything, i was just assuming it would be ok13:09
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mhenI see, let's ask him next time ;-)13:09
mhen#topic Image Encryption Specs/WIP13:10
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mhenso there has been some feedback on the Glance spec13:11
mhen#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/609667/13:11
mhenit's about the naming convention of properties mostly, nothing major13:12
mhenotherwise seems to gather acceptance13:13
mhenI'll see if I can get around to update the spec accordingly today13:14
mhenany questions from your side regarding the specs?13:15
funginone from me, just glad to see this moving along13:15
mhen#topic Open Discussion13:15
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mhenso, any other topics to discuss?13:16
rosmaitanot from me13:16
funginah13:18
mhenokay then thanks for joining today and have a nice week both of you!13:18
rosmaitaty!13:18
mhen#endmeeting image_encryption13:18
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fungithanks mhen!13:19
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slaweq#startmeeting networking21:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jun 22 21:00:20 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking'21:00
slaweqhi21:00
njohnstono/21:00
amotokihi21:00
slaweqlets wait few more minutes for more people21:01
bcafarelo/21:02
slaweqok, I think we can start as I don't expect there will be more people here today (tonight)21:02
slaweq#topic Announcements21:02
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slaweqLast week was Victoria-1 milestone21:03
slaweqNext milestone is Victoria-2 in the week of July 27th21:03
slaweqI think we should really focus now on reviewing some specs and implemantation of the approved BPs to get some work done in this cycle :)21:04
slaweqnext one21:04
slaweqNeutron-fwaas is now deprecated in master branch - there will be no new releases of it in Victoria, code is removed from the repo21:04
slaweqand the same for neutron-fwaas-dashboard21:04
amotokisorry for missing the later drivers meeting. I did not feel good these weeks and am slowing down activities unfortunately.21:05
slaweqamotoki: sure, no problem at all :)21:05
amotokiI saw the discussion on API and CLI on neutron-fwaas in the meeting log.21:05
amotokiI had some question on maintenance of fwaas API, but it can be deferred to the last of the meeting.21:05
slaweqamotoki: ok, lets talk about it in On demand agenda21:07
slaweqgood for You?21:07
amotokislaweq: sure21:07
slaweqthx21:08
slaweqaccording to fwaas deprecation, there is still couple of patches not merged https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:retire-neutron-fwaas21:08
slaweqbut those are all related to some projects which were using fwaas in ci jobs21:08
slaweqall governance work is done already21:09
slaweqok, next announcement21:09
slaweqNetworking-midonet - based on feedback from the project's core team, I'm going to propose write an email to call for volunteers and if there will be no people who wants to maintain it before Victoria-2 I will deprecate it in same way as fwaas in Ussuri cycle,21:09
amotokiI think we need to distinguish the usage of "deprecation" and "removal".21:10
amotoki"deprecation" means "future removal".21:10
slaweqamotoki: right21:10
amotokiI think neutron-fwaas is "removed".21:10
slaweqyes, I was thinking about removal it too21:10
slaweqbut then I found out that if we are still keeping stable branches, it's deprecation from governance PoV21:11
amotokiyeah, correct.21:11
slaweqand I think we should do it like that to not break existing stable branches where fwaas is delivered already21:11
amotokitotally agree21:13
slaweqso amotoki how You would call what we want to do with networking-midonet now?21:13
slaweqit is basically just an Docs warning so IMO we can write that "it will be deprecated for future removal in next cycle" or something like that21:13
slaweqwould it be ok for You?21:13
slaweqso something like "pre-deprecate" :)21:14
amotokiI think we cannot call it as "deprecated" and "removal" either. we have no maintenaers, so we need to say "volunteer for maintenance is needed. otherwise it will be derpecated for removal"21:14
slaweqsounds good21:14
amotokislaweq: I think we are in the same page.21:14
slaweqI will write it like that in the "call for volunteers" email this week21:15
slaweqthx amotoki21:15
slaweqok, next announcement21:15
slaweqVirtual OpenDev, next week is first virtual event "Large-scale Usage of Open Infrastructure Software": https://www.openstack.org/events/opendev-2020/21:15
slaweqplease register if You want to participate in this event21:15
slaweq(I will :))21:15
slaweqand that's all anouncements for today from me21:16
slaweqdo You have anything else to announce to the team?21:16
amotokinothing from me21:16
slaweqbtw. agenda for this virtual event is here: https://www.openstack.org/events/opendev-2020/opendev-schedule21:17
slaweqok, lets move on21:17
slaweq#topic Blueprints21:17
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slaweqBPs for Victoria-2: https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/victoria-221:18
slaweqdo You have updates about any of them?21:18
slaweqI promissed rubasov to review his Metadata over IPv6 patches this week but I didn't had time21:18
slaweqI will try to play with it this week21:18
slaweqok, I guess that there is no any other updates about BPs for today21:21
slaweqso lets move on to the next topic21:21
slaweq#topic Community goals21:21
bcafarelpeople were too busy fixing gates21:21
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slaweqbcafarel++ true21:21
slaweq:)21:21
slaweqMigrate to zuulv321:21
slaweqaccording to the current state of networking-midonet, I think we can move it out from the list of projects which needs to be done to accomplish that goal21:22
slaweqwhat do You think?21:22
bcafarel+1 no need to work on it if we remove it from our radar21:23
amotoki+1 unless we find volunteers luckily21:24
slaweqok21:25
njohnston+121:25
slaweqso with that we are just missing few grenade jobs to be switched and we will be done with all :)21:25
slaweqok, lets move on21:26
slaweqnext community goal21:26
slaweqMigrate CI/CD jobs to new Ubuntu LTS Focal21:26
slaweqtoday I pushed patch https://review.opendev.org/737370 to see how neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full will work with focal21:26
slaweqbut for now I think that devstack patch has to be fixed first21:27
slaweqand no other updates on that one from me21:27
bcafarellajos rebased functional jub one https://review.opendev.org/#/c/734304/4 today but it looks like it needs another rebase21:28
slaweqyep21:29
slaweqok, I think we can move on21:29
slaweq#topic Bugs21:29
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slaweqbcafarel was our bug deputy last week21:29
slaweqreport is here http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-June/015562.html21:29
slaweqbcafarel: anything You want to highlight now?21:29
bcafarelnot that much, most bugs are well underway21:30
bcafarelI highlighted the 2 without owner, https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1884067 would be good to fix21:30
openstackLaunchpad bug 1884067 in neutron "[API] Filtering by fields not allowed to see is possible for regular users" [High,Confirmed]21:30
bcafarel(well https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1884254 too but it is for less common situations)21:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1884254 in neutron "Restart of neutron-ovs-agent may cause data plane breakage" [Low,Confirmed]21:31
amotokiI am just commenting the first one.21:31
slaweqthx amotoki - I just wanted to ask You to take a look at that one :)21:31
amotokiit looks like we need to apply policy for filter arguments but it may need more work.21:32
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slaweqyes, and I marked it as high as potentially it may cause some data leak even21:32
slaweqif user will know e.g. hostname he can find out what ports are on this host (which regular used shouldn't now)21:32
amotokiyeah. If we don't see any security issue, I think we can lower the priority of it.21:32
slaweqmaybe it's not very serious problem as he would need to know exact hostname first21:33
slaweqso maybe "medium" would be better21:33
amotokiagree. anyway I will add a comment.21:34
slaweqthx amotoki21:34
slaweqthe other one is rather low priority IMO as it's corner case with broken rabbitmq when the issue can happen21:35
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slaweqany other bugs You want to discuss today?21:35
slaweqok, I guess this means "no" :)21:36
slaweqso lets move on21:36
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slaweqthis week I'm bug deputy21:36
slaweqI already sent email to myself with a reminder :P21:36
bcafarel:)21:37
amotoki:)21:37
slaweqnext week hongbin will be bug deputy21:37
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slaweqI will ping him this week about that21:37
slaweqalso, regarding our gate21:37
slaweqI proposed recently patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/735608/ as follow up from the PTG, please review it if You will have few minutes21:38
slaweqit's new CI job with neutron-lib from master branch, as we discussed during the virtual PTG21:38
slaweqok, that's all about bugs for today21:38
slaweq#topic On Demand agenda21:38
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slaweqamotoki: lets talk about Your concerns about fwaas21:39
amotokisure21:39
amotokiI am okay to keep the FWaaS API in neutron-lib but it raised me a question. How can we maintain it?21:39
amotokiIf someone would like to propose some change (for example from the third party impl perspective), what should we do? Or is it frozen?21:39
amotokithat's my question.21:39
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slaweqthat's good question :)21:40
amotokione idea is just to note that the FWaaS API is frozen to keep the last state of FWaaS.21:40
amotokiif someone would like to enhance the API, it might be a good timing to resume the work in something like x/neutron-fwaas21:41
njohnstonAnd as such we would require a functional implementation of the API definition as-is before we would ratify an extension of the API as it stands in neutron-lib21:42
slaweqamotoki: I think it's good idea to say that this api-ref is frozen now21:42
slaweqif someone want's to enhance it - they can revive project and keep new api there probably21:43
slaweqconcern raised on last drivers meeting was about current api and its support in e.g. OSC21:43
slaweqand because of that we said that we can keep this API-ref in neutron-lib stil21:43
slaweq*still21:43
slaweqbut I don't see any reason why we should accept new API for fwaas as an official API for this project21:44
amotokiagree21:44
amotokiOSC fwaas commands are provided by the OSC nuetronclient plugin, so it is still under the neutron team21:45
amotokiin addition, OSC team tries to support older APIs like nova-network, so it might not be a problem.21:45
njohnstonamotoki: Will that still be true if we deprecate python-neutronclient?21:47
slaweqamotoki: yes, but the other reason why IMO we should keep it for now is that api-ref in neutron-lib is "branchless" and we still have stable branches21:47
amotokislaweq: yes, it's true. one idea is to move removed APIs to some separate page.21:48
amotokinjohnston: during the OSC migration, the basic policy discussed is that we have commands for advanced services as the OSC plugin.21:49
amotokinjohnston: "deprecation" is only applied to "neutron" CLI in my understanding.21:49
slaweqamotoki: I agree, IMO we talked about that in the past and we said that python bindings in neutronclient aren't deprecated21:50
amotokinjohnston: python-neutronclient repo still has OSC plugin and python bindings for example used by nova.21:50
slaweqand we still accept new patches there all the time21:50
amotokiexactly21:50
njohnston+121:54
slaweqok, so I think that adding note that this API ref is now "frozen" will be good idea21:54
slaweqare You ok with that?21:54
amotoki+121:54
slaweqok21:55
slaweqthx21:55
slaweqso I think we are done for today21:55
slaweqany last minute topics to discuss?21:55
bcafarelnone from me21:56
amotokime neither21:56
njohnstonnope21:56
slaweqok21:56
slaweqthx for attending the meeting21:56
njohnstono/21:56
slaweqsee You all online21:56
bcafarelo/21:56
amotokio/21:56
slaweqand have a great week21:56
slaweqo/21:56
slaweq#endmeeting21:57
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Jun 22 21:57:00 2020 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)21:57
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openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2020/networking.2020-06-22-21.00.txt21:57
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slaweqGood Night!21:57
bcafarel\o/21:57
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