Thursday, 2020-04-23

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abhishekk#startmeeting glance14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr 23 14:00:06 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is abhishekk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
abhishekk#topic roll call14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glance'14:00
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abhishekk#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda14:00
jokke_o/14:00
abhishekko/14:00
abhishekkwait for couple of minutes14:00
smcginniso/14:00
rosmaita(i am only partially here) o-14:00
abhishekkcool, lets start14:00
abhishekk#topic Updates14:01
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abhishekkI have created Virtual PTG timing doodle14:01
abhishekkKindly update the same with your preferable time slots14:01
abhishekkI need to update the same in https://ethercalc.openstack.org/126u8ek25noy14:02
abhishekkLink for doodle is14:02
abhishekk#link https://doodle.com/poll/6a46283tii7gt2aa14:02
abhishekkI have also send mail about the same on openstack-discuss14:02
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abhishekkVirtual PTG will be held between 1-5 June14:03
abhishekkMoving ahead14:03
abhishekk#topic release/periodic jobs update14:03
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abhishekkRC1 is tagged14:03
abhishekkwhich includes some doc changes and skipped functional test14:04
abhishekkThanks for all the reviews14:04
jokke_ok, can we fix what ever is breaking that test before release or will it be soething like 20.0.1?14:04
abhishekkjokke_, at the moment no clue for why it is failing14:05
abhishekkI have added my understanding in the commit message14:05
abhishekkit is something related to early closing of connection14:05
abhishekkRegarding periodic job we have 2 failures related to oslo14:06
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abhishekktest_best_match_language_expected test is failing due to testtools.matchers._impl.MismatchError: 'it' != None14:06
jokke_abhishekk: but we do have bug open for it?14:06
abhishekkjokke_, yes14:06
jokke_gr814:06
abhishekklet me provide the link14:07
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jokke_I thought that translation thing got fixed already, I'm pretty sure I +2W'd the patch14:07
abhishekk#link https://launchpad.net/bugs/187373514:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1873735 in Glance "Functional test 'test_image_member_lifecycle_for_multiple_stores' fails intermittently for py37" [High,New] - Assigned to Abhishek Kekane (abhishek-kekane)14:07
smcginnisThere was some issue fixed a few hours ago that was impact legacy zuul v2 jobs.14:07
smcginnisNot sure if that is relevant here.14:08
abhishekksmcginnis, will have a look14:08
abhishekkI am going to find all skipped tests and revisit them if I can fix those14:09
abhishekkMoving ahead14:09
abhishekk#topic glance-specs freeze14:09
jokke_abhishekk: ping me if you need help14:09
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abhishekkjokke_, ack14:09
abhishekkI want to reintroduce spec freeze again14:09
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abhishekkEarlier we were not following spec freeze as we want to ensure everything should be addressed at any moment, which also was to attract cross-project members for contribution14:10
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abhishekkBut this cycle we had some specs, lite-specs which were left unnoticed till M3 release14:11
jokke_I'm fine with either way. I think both have their pros and conns14:11
abhishekkI want to avoid this in coming cycle14:11
jokke_++14:11
abhishekkOwner of the specs should push for review within this timeline14:12
jokke_it's easier to avoid thing falling between cracks when there is freeze and people pushing for it14:12
abhishekkand also reviewer should put his vote with reason before it was rejected or moved to next cycle14:12
abhishekkI will start reminding core members for reviews 2 weeks before specs-freeze14:13
abhishekkI hope all members are agree with this decision14:13
rosmaitawhat did we ever decide about 'checksum' deprecation?14:13
rosmaitabut yeah, i agree with your proposal14:14
abhishekkrosmaita, sorry I felt to provide proper attention towards some specs this time14:14
jokke_rosmaita: I think that's one of those things ... I don't think we ever did14:14
smcginnisYes, proposal makes sense to me.14:14
jokke_:(14:14
abhishekkBut I will ensure this will not repeated in next cycle14:15
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abhishekkCool, thank you, I will mark this spec-freeze date in our priority patch14:15
rosmaitai think we still have time for checksum deprecation because it's not a code change, just an announcement14:16
rosmaitain ussuri, i mean14:16
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abhishekkjokke_, what's your take on that, as per the rules if everyone is not agree then I can not merge this lite-spec14:17
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abhishekkrosmaita, I will propose new PS as per your suggestion for victoria specs directory14:18
abhishekkjokke_, leave your opinion on the specs14:19
rosmaitaabhishekk: sorry i am distracted14:19
rosmaitaso is the idea that we cannot deprecate this in ussuri ?14:20
smcginnisIf it's just announcing the deprecation, I think it would be good to get in.14:20
jokke_abhishekk: you're the PTL. That was something tht was introduced IIRC when rosmaita was PTL and I stood behind it specially when the group got smaller and smaller14:20
rosmaitayes, the idea was that i wanted every core to look at every spec14:20
rosmaitaso that we didn't get multiple image locations situation happening again14:21
abhishekkrosmaita, my last comment was related to my patch to create victoria specs directory14:21
jokke_yes ... the main thing was that we wanted everyone being on board and knowing what's going on14:21
rosmaitaright, so when we lost people, we were not clueless14:21
abhishekkAgree, but again picture is different this time, rosmaita is cinder PTL, smcginnis also busy with his work14:22
rosmaitaabhishekk: i think for that kind of thing, specs-repo-maintenance, we can treat them like doc changes, just one +214:22
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abhishekkrosmaita, ack14:23
jokke_but tbh the PTL only able to merge specs is driving to the same goal, making sure we don't flag things agreed before making sure everyone has had their eyes on it14:23
abhishekkright14:23
rosmaitathe current policy in cinder is that a spec only requires two +2s, but the ptl has the option to require more approvals for complex or controversial specs14:24
jokke_yeah, what comes to the housekeeping of specs repo, I definitely don't expect seeing everyone on those. There was specific reason why I asked if rosmaita can find time to review it14:24
abhishekkWhat I am saying is we don't have much proposals to work other than 3/4 of us14:24
jokke_the gerrit +w rules just are applied on the repo not content specific14:24
abhishekkWe can manage these reviews easily in between us within the time line14:26
abhishekkI guess whoami-rajat is also here for some discussion14:27
whoami-rajati'm currently in a meeting14:28
abhishekklets move ahead, jokke_ please add your opinion about checksum deprecation on the lite-specs so that we can decide14:28
jokke_abhishekk: in my opinion the specs side is probably the most important thing for PTL in the big picture so I think you should drive that how you feel the best to keep it under control14:29
jokke_abhishekk: the rest of us can adjust as long as we know you got the ball ;)14:29
abhishekkjokke_, ok14:29
rosmaitajokke_: ++14:29
abhishekk#topic Open discussion14:30
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abhishekkjokke_, rosmaita kindly feel the doodle when you get some time14:31
jokke_abhishekk: yes, definitely on my todolist14:31
jokke_at the top14:31
rosmaitaabhishekk: ack, will try to make glance & coinder not conflict14:31
abhishekkjokke_, mostly we are the two who will be there for discussion14:31
abhishekkrosmaita, great14:31
smcginnisUnfortunately true. :]14:32
abhishekksmcginnis, no worries, I will keep you updated on important discussions14:32
smcginnisThanks!14:33
jokke_lets make this work ... I think the biggest challenge and drawback will be how we sort out the beer sessions :D14:34
abhishekklol14:34
jokke_missing ye guys! :)14:34
smcginnisOf course, will try to participate. This virtual format may actually make that more possible than in the past.14:34
abhishekkjokke_, same here14:34
abhishekksmcginnis, ++14:35
abhishekkI wanted to discuss something in Open discussion but it slipped out of my mind :(14:36
abhishekkNot able to recollect it14:36
smcginnisI've done that so many times. :)14:36
abhishekk:D14:36
jokke_same14:36
abhishekkwill ping on openstack-glance if i remember it :D14:37
jokke_normally I rember it either about the time when I'm going to bed or taking care of something else time sensitive so I'm not adding it to the next agenda either ;)14:38
abhishekkhaha14:38
abhishekkI usually note it down somewhere but due to horrific couple of days I forgot to note it down14:38
jokke_mhm ... you definitely have had enough distractions for this week14:39
rosmaitayeah, you have had a rough week14:39
abhishekkyes14:39
abhishekkok, do we have anything else for discussion?14:40
jokke_I have nothing else14:40
abhishekkrosmaita, smcginnis ?14:40
smcginnisNothing from me.14:40
jokke_oh I do14:40
abhishekk:D14:40
rosmaitanothing here ... though jokke_ please leave comment on checksum spec-lite14:40
jokke_just to mention if you guys have time to stuble upon it14:40
jokke_apparently our swift driver is broken with SSL and security enforced14:41
jokke_I'm trying to replicate it to figure out what's going on there14:41
abhishekkohh, do we have bug for this?14:41
jokke_abhishekk: I think we do ... will dig it out ... it's what zigo pinged last Fri14:41
smcginnisI wonder if it's even worth testing UNsecure configurations. I would think we would want security enabled by default and covered by default with testing.14:42
jokke_also apparently our API starts crapping out if one of the stores in multi-store is not available ... something I'm also trying to reproduce to test and file a bug about14:42
abhishekkI have went through your discussion on IRC but forget to followup with you14:42
jokke_smcginnis: so the security enforced is that it accepts only valid certs14:43
zigojokke_: abhishekk: Yeah, it doesn't take into account the ca file that I've passed on, at least on Train.14:43
abhishekkjokke_, is it about 500 issue on listing any command14:43
jokke_which apparently is not that widely used case14:43
jokke_abhishekk: yeah14:43
jokke_the second one is14:43
jokke_zigo: so I haven't forgotten it, just havent got to bottom if it either yet14:44
abhishekkjokke_, I have configured 5 file stores and for testing revert logic on imports I am manually deleting one of the directory14:44
zigoGood, good!14:44
abhishekkbut I am not getting any error due to it14:44
abhishekkzigo, what about current master, have you tried it?14:44
jokke_abhishekk: I was told about it regarding ceph so it might be something rbd specific ... but like said haven't reproduced it yet to see what's going on14:45
zigoabhishekk: Not yet, but I'm about to try ussuri, as the RC1 are out for all projects.14:45
abhishekkzigo, ack14:45
jokke_zigo: please keep me updated on #openstack-glance if you don't mind14:45
jokke_I'm spending some time on these two14:45
zigoI'm not sure when that will be...14:46
abhishekkI will also try to setup environment with train14:46
zigoThe release keeps me busy these days.14:46
abhishekkzigo, could you paste the bug link here?14:46
jokke_zigo: no worries ... just let me know when you do ... I try to focus the train for now14:46
zigoNo bug opened yet, but I can open one right away.14:46
zigoStoryboard or Launchpad?14:46
abhishekkthat will be good,14:46
abhishekklaunchpad14:46
jokke_launchpad14:46
zigohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/187445814:48
openstackLaunchpad bug 1874458 in Glance "Glance doesn't take into account swift_store_cacert" [Undecided,New]14:48
abhishekkanything else guys?14:48
abhishekkzigo, thank you14:49
zigoNot sure if the title is good enough though ...14:49
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jokke_nope, now I'm really done14:49
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jokke_zigo: we can change all that when we figure out what's actually going on there ... now we have someplace to track our findings :D14:49
abhishekk+114:50
abhishekklets wrap it up14:50
abhishekkthank you all14:50
abhishekk#endmeeting14:51
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smcginnisabhishekk: Thanks!14:51
jokke_thanks14:51
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gagehugo#startmeeting security15:02
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr 23 15:02:13 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'security'15:02
fungialoha, y'all15:02
gagehugo#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/security-agenda agenda15:02
gagehugoo/15:02
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gagehugofungi: any updates for this week on your end?15:06
funginope, monday will be one month until the first batch of grandfathered-in embargoes expires15:07
fungiby my count it could be as many as 15 reports15:07
fungii'll add a comment to each of them next week with a one-month reminder, and may also reach out to teams directly if i find time15:07
gagehugoah ok15:07
fungion a positive note, i've seen no pushback whatsoever on the 90-day embargo limit15:09
gagehugonot sure if that's a good or bad thing haha15:09
fungitrue, could just mean nobody's noticed15:10
fungiwhich is why i'm being extra careful with this first batch15:10
gagehugomakes sense15:10
gagehugothanks for handling that btw15:11
fungino problem15:11
gagehugoI don't have anything new atm15:14
fungicool, well, if nobody else has anything, we can always talk to each other without needing a meeting ;)15:16
gagehugothat's crazy talk15:17
gagehugobut this meeting does allow me to put all the other distractions of work on hold for a brief time :(15:17
gagehugothanks fungi15:17
gagehugo#endmeeting15:17
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openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2020/security.2020-04-23-15.02.html15:17
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2020/security.2020-04-23-15.02.txt15:17
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2020/security.2020-04-23-15.02.log.html15:17
fungithanks gagehugo!15:18
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