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| tpatil | #startmeeting Masakari | 04:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 10 04:00:14 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tpatil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Masakari)" | 04:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:00 |
| tpatil | Hello Masakari members | 04:00 |
| tpatil | Today Sampath san is joining late | 04:00 |
| tpatil | Roll call? | 04:00 |
| suzhengwei_ | tpatil: hi | 04:02 |
| tpatil | suzhengwei_: Hi | 04:02 |
| tpatil | #topic Critical Bugs | 04:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Critical Bugs (Meeting topic: Masakari)" | 04:03 | |
| tpatil | #link : https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1858762 | 04:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1858762 in masakari "“UNKNOWN” host_status notification may cause unsafe evacuation" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Shilpa Devharakar (shilpasd) | 04:03 |
| tpatil | Any update? | 04:03 |
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| suzhengwei_ | Is Shilpa here? | 04:06 |
| tpatil | No | 04:06 |
| tpatil | This bug seems like a simple fix, need to check the host status and execute the workflow | 04:06 |
| tpatil | Moving ahead | 04:06 |
| tpatil | Any other bugs you want to bring up for discussion now? | 04:07 |
| suzhengwei_ | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/708325/ | 04:07 |
| tpatil | suzhengwei_: I have checked your comment and it does makes sense to me | 04:09 |
| tpatil | I have discussed about it with Sampath san and looking forward for his comment on the same. | 04:10 |
| suzhengwei_ | thx. another one, https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702328/ | 04:10 |
| suzhengwei_ | it need some review | 04:11 |
| tpatil | Regarding the first patch, could you please add unit tests for your changes? I know the changes are simple, but we need unit tests for bug fixes | 04:12 |
| suzhengwei_ | ok, I will try to add some unit tests later. | 04:13 |
| tpatil | suzhengwei_: Thanks | 04:13 |
| suzhengwei_ | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/701489/ | 04:13 |
| tpatil | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702328/, I will review this patch in this week. Sorry lately I'm busy working on another project so I couldn't spend time on this project. | 04:13 |
| suzhengwei_ | This is a simple bug, too | 04:14 |
| tpatil | suzhengwei_: Agree, will review this patch as well in this week. | 04:15 |
| suzhengwei_ | thx | 04:15 |
| tpatil | #topic: Ussuri work items | 04:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Ussuri work items (Meeting topic: Masakari)" | 04:16 | |
| tpatil | #link : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/masakari-u-workitems | 04:16 |
| tpatil | Enable/Disable evacuation segment wise | 04:17 |
| tpatil | Spec: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/705893/ | 04:18 |
| tpatil | suzhengwei_: I have seen you have uploaded a new PS. Will review it soon. | 04:19 |
| suzhengwei_ | thx | 04:19 |
| tpatil | suzhengwei_: You also have implemented the spec, so we will plan to plan this feature in U release. | 04:20 |
| tpatil | s/plan/land | 04:20 |
| suzhengwei_ | yes, I will finish it before U release. | 04:21 |
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| tpatil | suzhengwei_: Thanks | 04:22 |
| tpatil | # link: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/704811/ | 04:22 |
| tpatil | suzhengwei_: I have seen your comment on above patch. Also, discussed with Sampath san offline. Unfortunately, he is not available today yet | 04:23 |
| tpatil | IMHO, it's ok to add a new API GET /hosts and GET /hosts/<hostuuid> | 04:24 |
| suzhengwei_ | You can leave some comment or message under the patch. | 04:24 |
| tpatil | Question arise, whether it's ok to continue existing API GET /segments/{segment_id}/hosts | 04:25 |
| tpatil | or deprecated it | 04:25 |
| suzhengwei_ | Maybe we can talk about it sometime later, when more people are here. | 04:26 |
| tpatil | because supporting both these API would be redundant | 04:26 |
| tpatil | suzhengwei_: Agree | 04:27 |
| tpatil | suzhengwei_ : Do you have anything else to discuss about U work items? | 04:28 |
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| suzhengwei_ | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/710191/ | 04:29 |
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| suzhengwei_ | this is a simple issue, it is not a bp. I just want to draw some notices. | 04:30 |
| tpatil | From masakari point of view, I think what's important is nova-compute process and for the rest of the processes, masakari doesn't take any actions | 04:31 |
| suzhengwei_ | yes, but it will try to restart the failed processes in monitor. | 04:32 |
| tpatil | The current code is not suitable if you are monitoring too many processes. | 04:32 |
| suzhengwei_ | it is not good in line flow when two or more process is failed. | 04:33 |
| tpatil | I don't think you need a spec for this change | 04:33 |
| suzhengwei_ | No, it doesn't. | 04:34 |
| tpatil | You can allocate a pool of thread to do the job. definitely we cannot create one thread per process. just in case operator adds too many processes for monitoring. | 04:35 |
| tpatil | s/thread/threads | 04:35 |
| tpatil | suzhengwei_: Feel free to work on these changes. No bp/spec need for this change. | 04:36 |
| tpatil | s/need/needed | 04:36 |
| suzhengwei_ | The monitor process list contain nova-compute, libvirt and ovs in my env. | 04:37 |
| suzhengwei_ | OK, I will give a patch directly. | 04:38 |
| tpatil | suzhengwei_: Thanks | 04:38 |
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| tpatil | That's all I wanted to bring up in this meeting | 04:41 |
| tpatil | If no other topics left for discussion let's close this meeting early | 04:42 |
| tpatil | suzhengwei_: Thank you for joining the meeting | 04:43 |
| tpatil | See you all then in the next meeting. Thank you | 04:44 |
| tpatil | #endmeeting | 04:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 10 04:44:42 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2020/masakari.2020-03-10-04.00.html | 04:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2020/masakari.2020-03-10-04.00.txt | 04:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2020/masakari.2020-03-10-04.00.log.html | 04:44 |
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| slaweq | #startmeeting networking | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 10 14:00:28 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| slaweq | hi | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 14:00 |
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| mlavalle | o/ | 14:00 |
| lajoskatona | o/ | 14:00 |
| rubasov | o/ | 14:01 |
| amotoki | o/ | 14:01 |
| slaweq | #topic Announcements | 14:01 |
| bcafarel | \o | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:01 | |
| slaweq | according to https://releases.openstack.org/ussuri/schedule.html next important dates are: | 14:01 |
| njohnston | o/ | 14:01 |
| slaweq | Final release for non-client libraries - week of March 30th, | 14:01 |
| slaweq | and | 14:02 |
| slaweq | Ussuri-3 (feature freeze) - week of April 6th | 14:02 |
| slaweq | so we have only few more weeks to finish implementation of some RFEs/BPs | 14:02 |
| slaweq | one more thing related to calendar | 14:03 |
| slaweq | according to the https://governance.openstack.org/election/ PTL nomination period starts on Mar 24th | 14:03 |
| slaweq | so if someone wants to run for neutron PTL for Victoria cycle, nominations should be send between Mar 24th and Mar 31st | 14:04 |
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| slaweq | I want to continue serving as PTL to this great team so I will send my nomination too | 14:05 |
| * _mlavalle_2 got diconnected for a few seconds | 14:06 | |
| slaweq | and as last announcement, short reminder | 14:06 |
| slaweq | Victoria PTG planning etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-victoria-ptg | 14:06 |
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| slaweq | please add Your topics there - anything You want to discuss related to Neutron is fine | 14:06 |
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| slaweq | any other announcements from the team? | 14:07 |
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| bcafarel | is it time yet to congratulate lajoskatona? | 14:07 |
| slaweq | bcafarel: almost, I hope that I will announce it on our next meeting :) | 14:08 |
| bcafarel | ack, I will keep the confettis on hand :) | 14:09 |
| slaweq | bcafarel: :) | 14:09 |
| slaweq | if there is no other announcements, lets move on | 14:10 |
| slaweq | #topic Blueprints | 14:10 |
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| slaweq | list of BPs for U-3 is at https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/ussuri-3 | 14:10 |
| slaweq | I would like to clarify status of some of them now | 14:10 |
| slaweq | first of all https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-ovn-merge | 14:11 |
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| slaweq | I wanted to ask haleyb|away what we are still missing there to consider it as done | 14:11 |
| slaweq | but haleyb|away is not here today so I will ask him offline about that | 14:11 |
| slaweq | next one | 14:11 |
| slaweq | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/tagging-on-post | 14:11 |
| slaweq | _mlavalle_2: will You propose patches for openstack sdk and OSC for that? | 14:12 |
| slaweq | as this is last remaining part IIRC, right? | 14:12 |
| _mlavalle_2 | yes | 14:12 |
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| _mlavalle_2 | and api-def | 14:12 |
| slaweq | by api-def You mean documentation? | 14:12 |
| _mlavalle_2 | yes | 14:13 |
| slaweq | ok | 14:13 |
| slaweq | so we are almost done with this one :) | 14:13 |
| _mlavalle_2 | yes | 14:13 |
| slaweq | thx _mlavalle_2 | 14:13 |
| _mlavalle_2 | tempest test merged last night | 14:13 |
| slaweq | yep, that I saw :) | 14:13 |
| slaweq | ok, next one | 14:14 |
| slaweq | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/fip-pf-description | 14:14 |
| slaweq | it's also almost done, there is SDK patch in progress | 14:14 |
| slaweq | and OSC patch is missing | 14:14 |
| slaweq | but I found some issues with it when I was reviewing sdk patch | 14:14 |
| slaweq | details are in https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1866560 | 14:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1866560 in neutron "FIP Port forwarding description API extension don't work" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:15 |
| slaweq | I hope it will be fixed soon | 14:15 |
| _mlavalle_2 | is there a patch proposed yet? | 14:16 |
| _mlavalle_2 | to keep it in my radar screen | 14:16 |
| slaweq | related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1866560 ? | 14:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1866560 in neutron "FIP Port forwarding description API extension don't work" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:16 |
| _mlavalle_2 | yes | 14:17 |
| slaweq | yes, there is https://review.opendev.org/#/c/711888/ | 14:17 |
| _mlavalle_2 | thanks | 14:17 |
| slaweq | I need to rebase it on top of https://review.opendev.org/#/c/711602/ | 14:17 |
| slaweq | and it also needs https://review.opendev.org/#/c/711887/ | 14:18 |
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| slaweq | thx _mlavalle_2 for taking look into that :) | 14:18 |
| slaweq | next one | 14:18 |
| slaweq | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/secgroups-custom-ethertypes | 14:18 |
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| slaweq | njohnston: what is current status of this one? | 14:18 |
| slaweq | do You need any help with that maybe? | 14:18 |
| njohnston | I have not made good progress | 14:19 |
| njohnston | If anyone is interested in helping out, please ping me | 14:20 |
| njohnston | But it is a lower priority for me at the moment | 14:20 |
| slaweq | ok, I can help with that one this week | 14:20 |
| slaweq | next one for today | 14:21 |
| slaweq | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/metadata-over-ipv6 | 14:21 |
| slaweq | I recently sent email to _mlavalle_2 and haleyb|away about it | 14:21 |
| _mlavalle_2 | I haven't made progress with it | 14:21 |
| _mlavalle_2 | still in my plans | 14:22 |
| slaweq | haleyb|away's opinion is that we should go with this spec on our own, without doing any RFC or something like that | 14:22 |
| slaweq | my opinion is similar to be honest | 14:22 |
| _mlavalle_2 | agree | 14:22 |
| slaweq | _mlavalle_2: if You want I can try to reach out to cloud-init maintainers this week to see what they think about our spec | 14:23 |
| slaweq | and then implementation on our side should be easy probably | 14:23 |
| _mlavalle_2 | ok | 14:23 |
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| slaweq | ok, so I will do that | 14:23 |
| slaweq | _mlavalle_2: rubasov I will ping You when I will have anything new related to that | 14:24 |
| _mlavalle_2 | thanks | 14:25 |
| rubasov | thanks | 14:25 |
| slaweq | and the last one on my list for today is: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/enginefacade-switch | 14:25 |
| slaweq | according to that I think we are not doing any progress on it since some time | 14:25 |
| slaweq | I know that there is this "check" patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/545501/ | 14:26 |
| slaweq | where all is red now | 14:26 |
| slaweq | I will try also to help with this one more during next few weeks | 14:26 |
| ralonsoh | there are is one patch still under review https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/enginefacade-switch+(status:open) | 14:27 |
| ralonsoh | there is* | 14:27 |
| slaweq | if there is anyone else who would like to help, that would be great | 14:27 |
| ralonsoh | sure, of course I can help with this | 14:27 |
| _mlavalle_2 | I'll do my best to continue working on it | 14:27 |
| slaweq | thx _mlavalle_2 and ralonsoh | 14:27 |
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| slaweq | ok, and that's all Blueprints on the list for today | 14:28 |
| slaweq | anyone wants to add/ask something about blueprints? | 14:28 |
| slaweq | if not, lets move on | 14:29 |
| slaweq | next topic for today | 14:29 |
| slaweq | #topic Community goals | 14:29 |
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| slaweq | Project Specific PTL and Contributor Documentation - I think that patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/707486/ is ready for review now | 14:30 |
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| slaweq | so please add it to Your review queue :) | 14:30 |
| slaweq | and thanks in advance for any comments there | 14:31 |
| slaweq | regarding old goal "Support IPv6-Only Deployments" | 14:31 |
| slaweq | I just rebased neutron-tempest-plugin patch https://review.opendev.org/686043 and will try to continue work on it, | 14:31 |
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| slaweq | on the list of opened patches: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:ipv6-only-deployment-and-testing+(status:open+OR+status:merged)+(project:%255Eopenstack/neutron.*+OR+project:%255Eopenstack/networking-.*) there are also some patchrs for networking-bagpipe/bgpvpn and networking-odl | 14:32 |
| slaweq | I think that would be good if maintainers of those projects could take a look at them | 14:32 |
| bcafarel | I thought we had nothing to do mostly for that ipv6 goal? added that patch to review queue | 14:32 |
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| slaweq | thx bcafarel | 14:32 |
| slaweq | and that's all regarding community goals for Ussuri cycle (and olders) | 14:33 |
| lajoskatona | slwaeq: I check bagpipe/bgpvpn and odl to see the status | 14:33 |
| slaweq | anything else You want to add about community goals? | 14:33 |
| lajoskatona | slaweq -^ | 14:33 |
| slaweq | thx a lot lajoskatona :) | 14:33 |
| slaweq | ok, lets move on | 14:35 |
| slaweq | next topic | 14:35 |
| slaweq | #topic Bugs | 14:35 |
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| slaweq | rubasov was on bug deputy. Summary http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-March/013177.html | 14:35 |
| slaweq | rubasov: anything You want to hightligh from there? | 14:36 |
| rubasov | all bugs have assignees | 14:36 |
| rubasov | or attempted fixes | 14:36 |
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| rubasov | this one is incomplete, waiting for info from the reporter, but maybe it rings a bell for somebody: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1866445 | 14:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1866445 in neutron "br-int bridge in one compute can't learn MAC addresses of VMs in other compute nodes" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 14:37 |
| ralonsoh | but should this happen? I don't think so | 14:38 |
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| rubasov | I think it shouldn't | 14:39 |
| ralonsoh | br-int can learn another host MAC address | 14:39 |
| ralonsoh | can't | 14:39 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: exactly, the only "learning" I'm aware of is with l2pop enabled | 14:39 |
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| slaweq | so this seems for me more like proposal of new RFE to add such "learning" mechanism, but is that even possible somehow with ovs? | 14:40 |
| ralonsoh | I think the problem they are hitting is, maybe, that br-int is not learning the VM port addresses | 14:42 |
| rubasov | I'm not sure I follow, ovs NORMAL action should learn source MACs, shouldn't it? | 14:42 |
| ralonsoh | yes if they are using hybrid firewall | 14:43 |
| ralonsoh | that's the point | 14:43 |
| ralonsoh | br-int should not learn other host MACs | 14:43 |
| ralonsoh | but maybe the internal macs are not in the MAC table and the broadcast traffic is excesive | 14:43 |
| rubasov | I mean we clearly don't have enough info to reproduce the problem yet, I was just fishing if somebody have seen a similar problem before to ask better questions from the reporter | 14:45 |
| slaweq | thx rubasov | 14:45 |
| slaweq | and thank You for the summary email | 14:46 |
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| slaweq | our bug deputy this week is bcafarel so we are still in good hands | 14:46 |
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| slaweq | and next week is my turn | 14:46 |
| bcafarel | so we should also be fine! | 14:46 |
| slaweq | so I will make sure that I'm aware of it :P | 14:46 |
| slaweq | any other bugs You want to discuss today? | 14:47 |
| slaweq | ok, I guess that this means "no" | 14:48 |
| slaweq | next topic should be "Networking OVN and ML2+OVS+DVR Convergence" | 14:48 |
| slaweq | but as there is no Lucas, Maciej and haleyb|away today, I think we can skip it | 14:48 |
| slaweq | so next topic is | 14:49 |
| slaweq | #neutron-lib | 14:49 |
| slaweq | #undo | 14:49 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic Bugs | 14:49 |
| slaweq | #topic neutron-lib | 14:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "neutron-lib (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:49 | |
| slaweq | I just wanted to say that new version of neutron-lib was just released few minutes ago | 14:50 |
| slaweq | it's version 2.2.0 | 14:50 |
| slaweq | anything else regarding neutron-lib? | 14:51 |
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| slaweq | if not, lets move on to the last topic | 14:52 |
| slaweq | #topic On Demand Agenda | 14:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "On Demand Agenda (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:52 | |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: You have one topic there | 14:52 |
| ralonsoh | let me check... | 14:52 |
| ralonsoh | do you have the link? | 14:53 |
| ralonsoh | ahh yes | 14:53 |
| bcafarel | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1476527 | 14:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1476527 in neutron "[RFE] Add common classifier resource" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Igor D.C. (igordcard) | 14:53 |
| slaweq | sorry | 14:53 |
| slaweq | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings#On_Demand_Agenda | 14:53 |
| ralonsoh | exactly | 14:53 |
| ralonsoh | so the question is: are we going to merge the n-lib patch? | 14:53 |
| ralonsoh | and the DB changes | 14:54 |
| ralonsoh | nobody, so far, is going to continue with the implementation | 14:54 |
| ralonsoh | in OVS, OVN or LB | 14:54 |
| slaweq | IMHO no if we don't have anyone who will propose backend implementation for it | 14:54 |
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| bcafarel | ralonsoh: is it https://review.opendev.org/#/c/670049/ ? | 14:55 |
| slaweq | but I would love to see what others think about it | 14:55 |
| ralonsoh | this is the n-lib patch, the first one | 14:55 |
| ralonsoh | and the DB change is here | 14:55 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/670050/ | 14:55 |
| bcafarel | I fear we do not have anyone working on it :( | 14:56 |
| bcafarel | (anymore) | 14:56 |
| lajoskatona | ralonsoh, slaweq: as I see a lot of work is in these patches, and adds possibility to later improvements | 14:56 |
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| ralonsoh | lajoskatona, I was working with David in Intel when they started this spec, 3 years ago | 14:57 |
| ralonsoh | there is a lot of work there | 14:57 |
| ralonsoh | but there is not going to be any implementation | 14:57 |
| lajoskatona | What I don't see why it is better to integrate it to neutron instead of using x/neutron-classifier | 14:57 |
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| * _mlavalle_2 has to leave. have a great day | 14:57 | |
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| ralonsoh | because the DB changes were needed | 14:58 |
| slaweq | lajoskatona: I remember that there were some issues with db upgrade and dependencies between neutron and x/neutron-classifier projects | 14:58 |
| ralonsoh | to make any QoS policy dependant on a CG | 14:58 |
| ralonsoh | exactly | 14:58 |
| lajoskatona | ok, I see | 14:58 |
| slaweq | ok, we are running out of time now | 14:59 |
| slaweq | we can get back to it on next meeting | 14:59 |
| bcafarel | and maybe find volunteers by then :) | 14:59 |
| slaweq | or ralonsoh You can send an email about that and we can continue discussion there | 14:59 |
| slaweq | thx for attending | 14:59 |
| ralonsoh | of course | 14:59 |
| slaweq | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 10 14:59:55 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2020/networking.2020-03-10-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2020/networking.2020-03-10-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
| ralonsoh | bye | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2020/networking.2020-03-10-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| bcafarel | o/ | 15:00 |
| lajoskatona | bye | 15:00 |
| rubasov | o/ | 15:00 |
| ralonsoh | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 10 15:00:07 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ralonsoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| njohnston | o/ | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 15:00 |
| ralonsoh | you can stay if you want here | 15:00 |
| bcafarel | :) | 15:00 |
| ralonsoh | the agenda is very light today | 15:00 |
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| ralonsoh | so let's start | 15:01 |
| ralonsoh | #topic RFEs | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:01 | |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1476527 | 15:01 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1476527 in neutron "[RFE] Add common classifier resource" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Igor D.C. (igordcard) | 15:01 |
| ralonsoh | I'll send a mail to the ML to ask for developers | 15:01 |
| ralonsoh | for now, this RFE is frozen | 15:02 |
| ralonsoh | next one | 15:02 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1858610 | 15:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1858610 in neutron "[RFE] Qos policy not supporting sharing bandwidth between several nics of the same vm." [Undecided,New] | 15:02 |
| ralonsoh | we agreed in the last drivers meeting to wait for a SPEC or POC | 15:03 |
| ralonsoh | this feature is quite complex so a PoC could help to decide if the architecture change is correct | 15:03 |
| ralonsoh | there are no more RFEs in the list | 15:04 |
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| ralonsoh | do you have something else to add here? | 15:04 |
| davidsha | me? | 15:04 |
| ralonsoh | hi! | 15:04 |
| davidsha | Hey! | 15:04 |
| ralonsoh | please, go on | 15:04 |
| ralonsoh | davidsha, do you have something to add here? | 15:06 |
| davidsha | I think they only way this could make sense to me is if it's applied at the instance, so it would need a lot of collaboration with Nova | 15:06 |
| ralonsoh | davidsha, you mean to implement the QoS on the instance? | 15:06 |
| davidsha | for this particular use case yes | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | but this is beyond the orchestrator | 15:07 |
| davidsha | Otherwise you need a QoS rule thats an aggregate of specific ports | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | the orchestrator should not interfere on the instance | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | yes, that's the point | 15:07 |
| davidsha | Ya | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | how this qos could be implemented in the backend | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | in LB they are proposing to use the IFB block | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | the same as I used (with no success) in the min BW implementation for LB | 15:08 |
| ralonsoh | but as commented in the last drivers meeting, we'll wait for a spec/poc | 15:08 |
| davidsha | So you need to change the typical relationship between rule -> policy -> port to rule wrapping multiple ports? | 15:09 |
| davidsha | kk | 15:09 |
| ralonsoh | yes, that's another topic | 15:09 |
| davidsha | kk | 15:09 |
| ralonsoh | more related to the server: how are you going to handle this new rule | 15:09 |
| ralonsoh | just for the VM ports? for all the ports related to this rule? | 15:09 |
| ralonsoh | nothing has been decided yet | 15:09 |
| davidsha | ya, I''m thinking API at the moment | 15:09 |
| davidsha | kk | 15:10 |
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| ralonsoh | ok, let's move to the next topic | 15:11 |
| ralonsoh | #topic Bugs | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:11 | |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1866039 | 15:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1866039 in neutron "[OVN] QoS gives different bandwidth limit measures than ml2/ovs" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Maciej Jozefczyk (maciej.jozefczyk) | 15:11 |
| ralonsoh | I'm looking for the patch... | 15:11 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/711048/ | 15:11 |
| ralonsoh | there is a small transient measuring the BW | 15:12 |
| ralonsoh | the BW at the beginning is higher | 15:12 |
| ralonsoh | not to avoid but to reduce the impact of this transient on the average BW | 15:12 |
| davidsha | kk | 15:12 |
| ralonsoh | the file size to transfer will be proportional to the BW speed | 15:12 |
| ralonsoh | this way, the transmission time will be always the same, 10 secs aprox | 15:13 |
| ralonsoh | this will improve all backends | 15:13 |
| ralonsoh | (will improve all backends tests) | 15:13 |
| ralonsoh | please, review the patch | 15:13 |
| davidsha | ack | 15:14 |
| ralonsoh | next one | 15:14 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1864630 | 15:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1864630 in neutron "Hard Reboot VM with multiple port lost QoS " [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Nguyen Thanh Cong (congnt95) | 15:14 |
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| ralonsoh | I've +W the patch 1 hour ago | 15:14 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709687/ | 15:14 |
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| ralonsoh | good catch, thanks for reporting this bug | 15:14 |
| ralonsoh | and now we have a series of bugs, all of them related | 15:15 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1863987 | 15:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1863987 in neutron "[OVN] Remove dependency on port_object" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to zhanghao (zhanghao2) | 15:15 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1863852 | 15:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1863852 in neutron "[OVN]Could not support more than one qos rule in one policy" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Taoyunxiang (taoyunxiang) | 15:15 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1862893 | 15:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1862893 in neutron "[OVN]Updating a QoS policy for a port will cause a KeyEerror" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to zhanghao (zhanghao2) | 15:15 |
| ralonsoh | the problem of those patches are that the patches are disconnected among them | 15:16 |
| ralonsoh | we need to refactor the OVN QoS driver | 15:16 |
| ralonsoh | to handle the QoS as a driver extension | 15:17 |
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| ralonsoh | we can't use the ML2 agent extension model because this is NOT an agent | 15:17 |
| ralonsoh | I'm still working on this: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/711317/ | 15:17 |
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| ralonsoh | this patch will move the QoS handling to this new extension | 15:18 |
| ralonsoh | the main problem I'm facing now is how to handle the QoS policy update | 15:18 |
| ralonsoh | in the agents, the policies and the rules where stored in a in-memory mapping | 15:19 |
| ralonsoh | but I'm very reluctant to do the same in the server | 15:19 |
| davidsha | This is the Neutron server you're talking about? | 15:19 |
| ralonsoh | in HA we can't guarantee this mapping will be shared between instances | 15:19 |
| ralonsoh | yes | 15:19 |
| davidsha | Neutron server has access to the DB, could you not pull from that? | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | Neutron server, sorry, in opposition to Neutron agent (sriov, LB, OVS) | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | that's the point | 15:20 |
| davidsha | kk | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | we receive this call from the qos_plugin | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | self.driver_manager.call(qos_consts.UPDATE_POLICY, context, policy) | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | at this point, the policy (and the rules, this method is also called when a policy rule is updated) | 15:21 |
| ralonsoh | stored in the DB is the new one | 15:21 |
| ralonsoh | and we lost any track of the previous one... | 15:21 |
| davidsha | Ok | 15:22 |
| ralonsoh | --> how can we "delete" the OVN QoS registers if we don't have the information of the old policy and rules? | 15:22 |
| davidsha | Iy's the delta you need to have | 15:22 |
| ralonsoh | yes | 15:22 |
| ralonsoh | and I'm squeezing my brain to find a solution | 15:22 |
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| davidsha | Is there some kind of history for modifications to DB objects that we can reference? | 15:23 |
| ralonsoh | nope | 15:23 |
| davidsha | :/ | 15:23 |
| ralonsoh | anyway, I'll find something | 15:24 |
| davidsha | Ya, OvN may need a mirror of the QoS tables. | 15:24 |
| ralonsoh | I don't know if I can store this info in the OVN DB | 15:25 |
| ralonsoh | no problem, I'll find something there | 15:25 |
| ralonsoh | we still have another bug in the list | 15:25 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/1853171 | 15:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1853171 in neutron "Deprecate and remove any "ofctl" code in Neutron and related projects " [Medium,In progress] | 15:25 |
| ralonsoh | davidsha, do you have any update? | 15:26 |
| davidsha | Yes, I've had a go at the refactor, but I've run out of time: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/711949/ | 15:26 |
| ralonsoh | no problem | 15:27 |
| ralonsoh | once you stop working on this one, ping me | 15:27 |
| davidsha | There seems to be some issue with ct_state and ct_mark, I'm not sure am I using it wrong, but the documentation implies it should work. | 15:27 |
| ralonsoh | I'll try to reproduce it locally | 15:27 |
| davidsha | The dynamic flow creation code in rules.py is only half migrated as well. | 15:28 |
| ralonsoh | maybe this is going to be more complex than expected... | 15:29 |
| davidsha | NXActions should be able to do conjunctions from what I read, I just haven't gotten that far to really know. | 15:29 |
| davidsha | It shouldn't be too bad from here, my only concern is the ct_mark and ct_state issue, there could be a bug in Ryu and OS-Ken | 15:30 |
| davidsha | It expects to recieve ints for those values, but the documentation says strings | 15:30 |
| ralonsoh | do you know what part of the osken code is handling this? | 15:31 |
| davidsha | I was looking at the code, I think it was in the 1.3 parser. the ct_state and ct_mark are part of nx_actions I believe? | 15:32 |
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| davidsha | https://github.com/openstack/os-ken/blob/9f1f1726d0b86a43df61bc22f6a8dec0f5c5b918/os_ken/ofproto/nicira_ext.py#L585 | 15:33 |
| davidsha | Ya it's listed as an int here | 15:33 |
| ralonsoh | but you said before strings | 15:34 |
| davidsha | https://github.com/openstack/os-ken/blob/9f1f1726d0b86a43df61bc22f6a8dec0f5c5b918/os_ken/tests/packet_data_generator3/gen.py#L111 | 15:35 |
| davidsha | Ya | 15:35 |
| ralonsoh | CT_MARK_* are string | 15:35 |
| ralonsoh | strings | 15:35 |
| ralonsoh | hmmm maybe there you have your problem! | 15:35 |
| davidsha | Ya | 15:35 |
| davidsha | :P | 15:35 |
| davidsha | So the constants need to be changed from strings to ints | 15:36 |
| davidsha | to the corresponding ints* | 15:36 |
| ralonsoh | maybe heheheh | 15:36 |
| davidsha | I had to make a similar change for the ethertypes | 15:36 |
| davidsha | They were being passed in as strings but needed to be ints @.@ | 15:37 |
| ralonsoh | ping me once you have next version | 15:38 |
| davidsha | Thats my last version I'm afraid :/ | 15:39 |
| ralonsoh | ahhhh ok | 15:39 |
| ralonsoh | I understand | 15:39 |
| ralonsoh | sorry... | 15:39 |
| davidsha | np, sorry I didn't get it all the way :P | 15:39 |
| ralonsoh | ok, thanks a lot davidsha | 15:40 |
| ralonsoh | do we have something else in the bug section? | 15:41 |
| ralonsoh | #topic Open Discussion | 15:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:41 | |
| ralonsoh | I have nothing in the agenda | 15:41 |
| ralonsoh | something to add here? | 15:41 |
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| ralonsoh | thank you all and see you in two weeks | 15:42 |
| ralonsoh | #endmeeting | 15:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:42 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 10 15:42:10 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2020/neutron_qos.2020-03-10-15.00.html | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2020/neutron_qos.2020-03-10-15.00.txt | 15:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2020/neutron_qos.2020-03-10-15.00.log.html | 15:42 |
| davidsha | Thanks! | 15:42 |
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| clarkb | anyone else here for the infra meeting? we'll get started shortly | 18:59 |
| corvus | o/ | 19:00 |
| mordred | o/ | 19:00 |
| AJaeger | o/ | 19:00 |
| zbr | o/ | 19:00 |
| * corvus is here with dst-compatible sandwich | 19:00 | |
| clarkb | I just finished my sandwich | 19:00 |
| fungi | my sandwiches are decidedly non-dst-compatible | 19:00 |
| fungi | (and also consumed hours ago_ | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting | 19:01 |
| openstack | clarkb: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 19:01 |
| clarkb | bah I did that last week too | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 10 19:01:11 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| * mordred has fewer sandwiches than he should | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2020-March/006608.html Our Agenda | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| clarkb | First up a friendly reminder that for many of us in north america DST switch has happened. Careful with your meeting schedule :) | 19:01 |
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| clarkb | Europe and others happen at the end of the month so we'll get round two with a different set of people | 19:01 |
| clarkb | This meeting is at 1900UTC Tuesdays regardless of DST or timezone | 19:02 |
| clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/foundation/2020-March/002852.html OSF email on 2020 events | 19:02 |
| clarkb | Second we've got an email from the Foundation with an update on 2020 events and what the current status is. | 19:02 |
| clarkb | If you've got feedback for that I know mark and others are more than happy to receive it | 19:02 |
| clarkb | it went to the foundation list so I wanted to make sure everyone saw it | 19:03 |
| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:04 | |
| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2020/infra.2020-03-03-19.02.txt minutes from last meeting | 19:04 |
| clarkb | There were no actions recorded | 19:04 |
| clarkb | #topic Specs approval | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs approval (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:04 | |
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| clarkb | I approved the python cleanup spec and the website activity stats spec. I think I've seen progress on both since then (I pushed a change today to add a job that runs goaccess and ianw landed the glean reparenting to python3 -m venv in dib) | 19:05 |
| clarkb | Please add those review topics to your review lists | 19:05 |
| clarkb | topic:website-stats topic:cleanup-test-image-python | 19:06 |
| clarkb | We've also got the xwiki spec | 19:06 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/710057/ xwiki for wikis | 19:06 |
| clarkb | zbr: thank you for the review on that one. | 19:07 |
| clarkb | frickler and corvus I think you had good feedback on IRC, would be great if you could double check that your concerns were addressed (or not) in the spec itself | 19:07 |
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| clarkb | Any other input on the specs work that has happened recently? | 19:08 |
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| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority Efforts (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:09 | |
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| clarkb | #topic OpenDev | 19:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenDev (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:09 | |
| clarkb | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/710020/ Split OpenDev out of OpenStack governance. | 19:10 |
| clarkb | That change seems to be getting proper review this time around (which is good) | 19:10 |
| clarkb | it also appears that we can continue to roll forward and make progress if I'm parsing the feedback there | 19:10 |
| clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2020-March/006603.html OpenDev as OSF pilot project | 19:10 |
| clarkb | I'll try to see if jbryce has time to follow up with our responses on that mailing list thread too | 19:10 |
| clarkb | last week we discovered that we had missed replication events on at least one gitea backend as well as a different backend OOMing and causing some jobs that don't use the local git cache to fail | 19:11 |
| AJaeger | Infra Manual has been updated and is now the "OpenDev Manual", a few changes still up for review | 19:11 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: thanks for the reminder /me needs to make sure he is caught up on those change reviews | 19:12 |
| clarkb | on the missed replication events problem mordred and I brainstormed a bit and we think we can force Gerrit to retry by always stopping the ssh daemon in the gitea setup first | 19:12 |
| clarkb | that way replication either actually succeeds or will have tcp errors. This is a good thing because Gerrit replication plugin will retry forever if it notices an error replicating a ref | 19:13 |
| mordred | WIP patch for that: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/711130/ | 19:13 |
| mordred | which is incomplete | 19:13 |
| clarkb | for the second thing (OOM) I think we should begin thinking about deploying bigger servers and/or more servers. My concern with more servers is that since we pin by IP any busiy IP (NAT perhaps) can still overload a single server | 19:14 |
| mordred | clarkb: while we should certainly avoid OOMing, should we also be trying to make those jobs use the git cache more better? | 19:15 |
| clarkb | mordred: yes jrosser said they would work on that aspect of it | 19:15 |
| fungi | it's not necessarily our jobs which are the bulk of the cause though | 19:15 |
| fungi | remember that our nodes don't go through nat to reach our gitea farm | 19:16 |
| mordred | nod | 19:16 |
| clarkb | fungi: but we do often start many jobs all at once that can by chance hash to the same backend node | 19:17 |
| fungi | so in theory if we have a big batch of jobs kick off which all clone nova, we should see that impact spread somewhat evenly across the pool already | 19:17 |
| clarkb | (also these jobs were cloning nova which is our biggest repo iirc) | 19:17 |
| fungi | the times we've seen this go sideways, it's generally been one backend hit super hard and little or no noticeable spike on the other backends around teh same timeframe | 19:17 |
| fungi | we talked about some options for using weighting in haproxy based on system resource health checks too, though that was kinda hand-wavey on the details | 19:18 |
| corvus | the other approach would be to change the lb algorithm to least busy, but the issue there is that backends are sometimes slightly out of sync? is it the case the only resolution there is shared storage? | 19:18 |
| clarkb | corvus: ya I think shared storage solves that problem properly. Its possible that least busy would mostly work now that our gitea backends are largely in sync with each other and packing on a similar schedule | 19:19 |
| fungi | even shared storage doesn't necessarily fix it if every backend's view of that storage can be slightly out of sync | 19:19 |
| clarkb | the old cgit setup used least busy and didn't have the problems with git clients moving around. I think possibly because the git repos were similar enough | 19:19 |
| corvus | clarkb: oh, what changed to get them mostly in sync? | 19:19 |
| clarkb | corvus: when we first spun up gitea we didn't do any explicit packing so they were somewhat randomly packed based on usage (git will decide on its own to pack things periodically iirc) | 19:20 |
| corvus | fungi: i don't think that is possible with cephfs? | 19:20 |
| fungi | right, using an appropriate shared storage can solve that | 19:20 |
| fungi | (not all shared storage has those properties) | 19:20 |
| clarkb | thinking out loud here, it may be worth flipping the switch back to least busy. Centos7 git in particular was the one unhappy with slightly different backend state iirc and its possible that as centos7 is used less and we are keeping things more in sync we can largely avoid the problem? | 19:21 |
| clarkb | maybe try that for a bit before deciding to make more/bigger servers? | 19:21 |
| corvus | sounds like it's worth it since the state may have improved | 19:22 |
| fungi | definitely worth a try, sure | 19:22 |
| fungi | i expect we can fairly quickly correlate any new failures resulting from that | 19:22 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya and we can run git updates and stuff locally as well to look for issues | 19:23 |
| fungi | (presumably it'll manifest as 404 or similar errors fetching specific objects) | 19:23 |
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| clarkb | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/infra-manual+topic:opendev+status:open Infra manual opendev updates | 19:23 |
| clarkb | AJaeger and I (mostly AJaeger) have been reworking the infra manual to make it more opendev and less openstack | 19:24 |
| clarkb | hopefully this will be more welcoming to new users | 19:24 |
| clarkb | if you've got time reviews on those changes are much appreciated | 19:24 |
| clarkb | Anything else on OpenDev? or should we move on? | 19:24 |
| clarkb | #topic Update Config Management | 19:26 |
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| clarkb | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:nodepool-legacy+status:open | 19:26 |
| clarkb | ianw has a stack there that will deploy nodepool builders with containers | 19:26 |
| mordred | \o/ | 19:27 |
| clarkb | This worksaround problems with the builder itself not having things it needs like newer decompression tools because we can get them into the container image | 19:27 |
| ianw | yeah just the main change really left, and then we can test | 19:27 |
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| clarkb | It doesn't totally solve the problems we've had as I'm not sure any single container image could have all the right combo of tools necessary to build all the things, but its closer than where we were before | 19:28 |
| ianw | this makes things better for fedora, but worse for suse, as this image doesn't have the tools to build that | 19:28 |
| clarkb | ianw: we could in theory have an image that did do both or use two different images possibly? | 19:29 |
| corvus | what do we need for suse? | 19:29 |
| ianw | we have discussed longer term moving the minimal builds away from host tools, in the mean time we can have a hetrogenous situation | 19:29 |
| clarkb | corvus: `zypper` the package manager | 19:29 |
| corvus | ah that | 19:29 |
| fungi | which was temporarily dropped from debian, and thus ubuntu | 19:30 |
| corvus | is it back in debian? | 19:30 |
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| fungi | it's been reintroduced, but not long enough ago to appear in ubuntu/bionic | 19:30 |
| ianw | oh interesting, because the container isn't ubuntu | 19:30 |
| mordred | could we potentially add it via bionic-backports? | 19:30 |
| clarkb | fungi: our nodepool-builder images are debian based though so may be able to pull that in | 19:30 |
| mordred | yeah. | 19:31 |
| fungi | #link https://packages.debian.org/zypper | 19:31 |
| fungi | it made it back in time for the buster release | 19:31 |
| mordred | cool. then we should be able to just add it | 19:31 |
| ianw | that's somewhat good news, i can look into that avenue | 19:31 |
| ianw | it's still a fragile situation, but if it works, it works | 19:31 |
| clarkb | yay | 19:31 |
| corvus | also we had the 'containerfile' idea for images | 19:32 |
| corvus | stalled at https://review.opendev.org/700083 | 19:32 |
| clarkb | right that is the longer term solution taht should fix this more directly for dib itself | 19:32 |
| corvus | i don't actually understand dib, so it's going to take me a while to figure out why those tests are failing | 19:33 |
| mordred | ianw: I have verified that zypper is installable in python-base | 19:33 |
| fungi | basically accepting that no one platform will every have all the right tools available to build all the kinds of images we want to build | 19:33 |
| corvus | if anyone else wants to take a peek at that and see if they have any hints, that might help move things along | 19:33 |
| fungi | s/every/always/ | 19:34 |
| ianw | for step 0 though, i think getting a working image out of the extant container, and seeing how we manage it's lifespan etc will be the interesting bits for the very near future | 19:34 |
| clarkb | ianw: ya I think it will also be good to have someone start using that image too as we've had zuul users be confused about how to get nodepool builder running | 19:35 |
| ianw | ++ | 19:35 |
| clarkb | mordred: any updates on gerrit and jeepyb and docker/podman? | 19:35 |
| mordred | nope. last week got consumed - I'm about to turn my attention back to that | 19:36 |
| clarkb | ok | 19:36 |
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| clarkb | Anything else before we move on to the next topic? | 19:37 |
| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:38 |
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| clarkb | static.openstack.org is basically gone at this point right? ianw has shut it down to shake out any errors (and we found one for zuul-ci? did we check starlingx too?) | 19:38 |
| ianw | the old host is shutdown, along with files02 | 19:38 |
| fungi | docs.starlingx.io still seems to be working | 19:39 |
| ianw | i haven't heard anything about missing sites ... | 19:39 |
| clarkb | fungi: thanks for checking | 19:39 |
| clarkb | I mentioned starglinx because it has a similar setup to zuul-ci.org | 19:39 |
| clarkb | though dns for it is managed completely differently and that was where we had the miss I think | 19:39 |
| fungi | (the main starlingx.io site isn't hosted by us, the osf takes care of it directly) | 19:40 |
| ianw | yeah, i updated that in RAX IIRC | 19:40 |
| clarkb | Anything else we need to do before cleaning up the old resources? do we want to keep any of the old cinder volumes around after deleting servers (as a psuedo backup) | 19:40 |
| fungi | i already deleted all but one of them before a scheduled hypervisor host maintenance | 19:40 |
| ianw | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709639/ would want one more review to remove the old configs | 19:41 |
| fungi | pvmove and lvreduce and so on | 19:41 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709639/ Clean up old static and files servers | 19:41 |
| fungi | so at this point the old static.o.o cinder volumes are down to just main01 | 19:41 |
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| clarkb | fungi: gotcha, I suppose we can hang onto that volume for a bit longer once the servers are deleted if we feel that is worthwhile | 19:42 |
| clarkb | the servers themselves shouldn't have any other data on them that matters | 19:42 |
| ianw | not much left in the story | 19:42 |
| clarkb | anything else to bring up on this subject? | 19:43 |
| fungi | i did notice, in looking over our mirroring configs, that we're mirroring tarballs.openstack.org and not tarballs.opendev.org | 19:43 |
| clarkb | fungi: in afs? | 19:44 |
| clarkb | oh no the in region mirrors | 19:44 |
| fungi | apache proxy cache, but yeah i suppose that's now obsolete | 19:44 |
| fungi | if we serve them from afs anyway | 19:44 |
| clarkb | I didn't realize we did that for tarballs at all. But ya could serve it "direclty" or update the cache pointer | 19:44 |
| fungi | (though maybe we need to plumb that in the vhost config to make it available) | 19:45 |
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| ianw | want me to add a task to look into it? | 19:46 |
| clarkb | ianw: ++ | 19:46 |
| clarkb | Ok as a time check we have less than 15 minutes and a few more items to get through so we'll move on | 19:46 |
| fungi | it doesn't necessarily have to get lumped into the static.o.o move, but can't hurt i guess | 19:46 |
| fungi | it's sort of cleanup | 19:46 |
| fungi | cool, next topic | 19:47 |
| clarkb | next up I wanted to remind everyone we've started to reorg our IRC channels. | 19:47 |
| clarkb | We've dropped openstacky things from #opendev. But before we actually split the channels we need to communicate the switch | 19:47 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/711106/1 if we get quorum on that change we can announce the migration then start holding people to it after an agreed on date. | 19:47 |
| clarkb | and before we send out mass comms some agreement on the change at ^ would be great | 19:48 |
| clarkb | its a quick review. Mostly about sanity checking the division | 19:48 |
| clarkb | and if we get agreement on that I can send out emails to the various places explaining that we'd like to be more friendly to non openstack users and push more of the opendev discussion into #opendev | 19:48 |
| clarkb | then actually make that switch on #date | 19:48 |
| clarkb | Next up: FortNebula is no more. Long live Open Edge cloud | 19:49 |
| clarkb | effectively what we've done is s/FortNebula/Open Edge/ donnyd is still our contact there | 19:49 |
| clarkb | I mentioned I could remove the fn grafana dashboard, but have not done that yet /me makes note on todo list for that | 19:49 |
| fungi | though he rebuilt the environment from scratch, new and improved (hopefully) | 19:50 |
| fungi | changed up various aspects of storage there | 19:50 |
| clarkb | This is largely just a heads up so no one is confused about where thsi new cloud has come from | 19:50 |
| fungi | and the name change signals a shift in funding for it, or something like that | 19:50 |
| clarkb | And that takes us to project rename planning | 19:51 |
| clarkb | we've got a devstack plugin that the cinder team wants to adopt and move from x/ to openstack/ and the openstack-infra/infra-manual repo should ideally be opendev/infra-manual | 19:51 |
| clarkb | mordred: ^ I think I'd somewhat defer to your thoughts on scheduling this since you are also trying to make changing in the gerrit setup | 19:52 |
| fungi | i think it's currently openstack/infra-manual actually, not openstack-infra/infra-manual | 19:52 |
| clarkb | fungi: correct (my bad) | 19:52 |
| fungi | basically we chose wrong (or failed to predict accurately) when deciding which namespace to move it into during the mass migration | 19:52 |
| smcginnis | How far away are we from being able to do a gerrit upgrade? (while we're near the subject) | 19:53 |
| fungi | so i'm viewing that one more as fixing a misstep from the initial migration | 19:53 |
| donnyd | clarkb: fungi you are correct - Open Edge is likely to be around for quite a lot longer than FN was going to be able to be sustained for | 19:53 |
| clarkb | smcginnis: mordred ran into an unexpected thing that needs accomodating so I don't think we have a good idea yet | 19:53 |
| mordred | well - step one is just doing a restart on the same version but with new deployment | 19:53 |
| smcginnis | clarkb: OK, thanks. | 19:53 |
| fungi | thanks again donnyd!!! it's been a huge help (and so have you) | 19:53 |
| mordred | clarkb: I don't expect manage-projects to take more than a day as long as I can actually work on it | 19:54 |
| clarkb | mordred: ok | 19:54 |
| clarkb | looking at ussuri scheduling we are kind of right in the middle of all the fun https://releases.openstack.org/ussuri/schedule.html | 19:54 |
| clarkb | next week doesn't look bad but then after that we may have to wait until mid april? | 19:54 |
| clarkb | (also I'm supposed to be driving to arizona a week from friday, but unsure if those plans are still in play) | 19:55 |
| mordred | why don't we schedule for next week - make that a target for also restarting for the container | 19:55 |
| mordred | I think that's a high doable goal gerrit-wise | 19:55 |
| clarkb | mordred: I'm fine with that, though depending on how things go I may or may not be driving a car and not much help | 19:55 |
| mordred | (to be clear - this isn't upgrade - is jst container) | 19:55 |
| mordred | clarkb: totes | 19:55 |
| clarkb | if I'm not driving the car I'm happy to help | 19:56 |
| fungi | yeah, i expect to be on hand, so any time around then wfm | 19:56 |
| clarkb | mordred: do you want to say friday the 20th? | 19:56 |
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| mordred | clarkb: seems reasonable | 19:56 |
| clarkb | any suggestions on a time frame (I can send out email that it is our intent to do that soon) | 19:57 |
| clarkb | fungi: mordred: what works best for you since it sounds like you may be most around (judging on current volunteering) | 19:57 |
| corvus | i'd like to help, but i'm not sure i can commit to the 20th right now, will let mordred know asap | 19:57 |
| fungi | fridays work well for me more generally, also any time which works for mordred should be fine for me as well since i live an hour in his future anyway | 19:58 |
| clarkb | well we are just about at time. Maybe we can sort out a timeframe between now and this friday and I'll announce stuff | 19:58 |
| mordred | yeah - any time on the 20th works for me too | 19:58 |
| clarkb | I'll open the floor for any last quick things | 19:58 |
| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:59 |
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| clarkb | Sounds like that may be it. Thank you everyone and we'll see you here next week | 19:59 |
| clarkb | feel free to continue discussion in #openstack-infra or on the mailing list | 20:00 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 10 20:00:11 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2020/infra.2020-03-10-19.01.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2020/infra.2020-03-10-19.01.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2020/infra.2020-03-10-19.01.log.html | 20:00 |
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| fungi | thanks, clarkb! | 20:00 |
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