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| timburke | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 22 21:00:00 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is timburke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
| timburke | who's here for the swift meeting? | 21:00 |
| alecuyer | o/ | 21:00 |
| mattoliverau | o/ | 21:00 |
| rledisez | o/ | 21:00 |
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| tdasilva | o/ | 21:00 |
| clayg | o/ | 21:00 |
| kota_ | o/ | 21:01 |
| timburke | not too much on the agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:01 |
| timburke | mainly i want to talk about | 21:01 |
| timburke | #topic upcoming release | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "upcoming release (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:01 | |
| timburke | p 701497 has merged | 21:01 |
| patchbot | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/701497/ - swift - py3: Fix formpost unicode filename issues (MERGED) - 3 patch sets | 21:01 |
| timburke | p 701736 is working its way through the gate | 21:02 |
| patchbot | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/701736/ - swift - Allow bulk to fwd some headers at tar extraction - 3 patch sets | 21:02 |
| timburke | which means there's just two (kind of three) bodies of work i'd like to see land before cutting a release | 21:02 |
| timburke | p 702650 | 21:03 |
| patchbot | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702650/ - octavia-tempest-plugin - Add scenario test for IPv6 VIP and IPv6-only members - 1 patch set | 21:03 |
| timburke | er, no -- p 702950 | 21:03 |
| patchbot | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702950/ - swift - Allow Timestamp comparisons against out-of-range v... - 2 patch sets | 21:03 |
| timburke | (and maybe its follow-on, p 703155) | 21:04 |
| patchbot | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703155/ - swift - Store normalized x-delete-at on PUT/POST - 3 patch sets | 21:04 |
| timburke | and versioning | 21:04 |
| clayg | so lp bug #1860149 - is there any downside to landing p 702950 | 21:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1860149 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "Large X-Delete-At values cause object-server to 500" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1860149 | 21:05 |
| patchbot | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702950/ - swift - Allow Timestamp comparisons against out-of-range v... - 2 patch sets | 21:05 |
| timburke | so first -- can anyone volunteer to review the timestamp patch? i'd kinda like to let seongsoocho's customers access their data again ;-) | 21:05 |
| clayg | yeah, i agree lp bug #1860149 is pretty awful | 21:05 |
| alecuyer | ouch | 21:06 |
| timburke | clayg, i don't think so -- i guess the only question left in my mind is whether we should 400 delete-ats that are more than, say, 100 years in the future | 21:06 |
| clayg | I mean I can "review" p 702950 - but the only contribution that'll really come out of it is a func test change to follow on and a +A 🤣 | 21:06 |
| patchbot | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702950/ - swift - Allow Timestamp comparisons against out-of-range v... - 2 patch sets | 21:06 |
| kota_ | i'll be back to https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702950/ | 21:06 |
| patchbot | patch 702950 - swift - Allow Timestamp comparisons against out-of-range v... - 2 patch sets | 21:06 |
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| timburke | thanks clayg and kota_! your input will be invaluable, i'm sure :-) | 21:07 |
| timburke | #topic versioning | 21:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "versioning (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:08 | |
| timburke | so i think i'd still like this ahead of a release -- does anyone worry that we should tag sooner rather than wait for it? | 21:08 |
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| clayg | timburke: just to clarify who you're asking - kota_ or alecuyer or seongsoocho, right? SwiftStack already shipped it - but I hear we're still waiting on the customer to upgrade, so we'd definately like to get a tag on it. | 21:11 |
| kota_ | either is fine to me, any tagged point will be acceptable from my org. | 21:12 |
| alecuyer | waiting until the patches you mentionned are in sounds reasonnable | 21:12 |
| timburke | clayg, yeah, i suppose so -- though a fresh tag with fresh features would also mean we'll likely see new bug reports that increases *your* support burden, too ;-) | 21:13 |
| clayg | timburke: mostly *yours* but... also it'd be nice to have sweet shiny changelog! | 21:13 |
| timburke | hell yeah it would be! | 21:14 |
| timburke | between p 682382 and p 698139 i think the swift API is pretty solid -- the only thing i'm still wavering on is whether/how we ought to deal with primary containers that (for whatever reason) don't have their %00versions%00 container even though they've got metadata thinking that they should | 21:14 |
| patchbot | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/682382/ - swift - New Object Versioning mode - 74 patch sets | 21:14 |
| patchbot | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/698139/ - swift - Skip container-sync when versioning enabled - 14 patch sets | 21:14 |
| clayg | kota_: alecuyer: I really hope you're gunna like versioning, @timburke and @tdasilva worked really hard on it, and I think it's pretty great | 21:14 |
| rledisez | I don't have the changelog in mind, but the versioning/null sperator seems the bug thing of this release, one is only something if it is enabled, the other I guess is only used by versioning. so having it in the next release does not seem an issue | 21:14 |
| rledisez | *the big thing | 21:14 |
| timburke | Freudian slip ;-) | 21:15 |
| rledisez | so i guess both options are fine for me | 21:15 |
| kota_ | clayg: +100, I support the work. I don't have much time to look the spec for now but I trust the authors. | 21:16 |
| timburke | my question on the swift api is: should we make sure that case is covered/tested, or does it seem sufficiently unlikely that we'd be ok with addressing it in a follow-up (potentially after a release) | 21:16 |
| clayg | timburke: right it's impossible to say how that situation resolves symantically eventually - so we either leave it undefined or pick how it should be (either way seems reasonable to me) | 21:17 |
| rledisez | timburke: I *think* (but not have a string opinion for now) I would not enable the new versioning until the container-sync is working with it, because it would create confusion for sure to our customers | 21:18 |
| tdasilva | we should at least make it possible for ops to fix it, right now i think they would have to delete the primary container all together, which isn't great | 21:18 |
| clayg | oh no! bummer... | 21:18 |
| clayg | tdasilva: oh, ideally re-issuing the enable versioning request would soome how make sure the versions container was available for subsequent requests | 21:19 |
| tdasilva | clayg: +1 | 21:20 |
| timburke | tdasilva, if we're talking ops, they could use a direct client to pop the reserved container back into existence -- but yeah, i'd like it to be something an external client can fix | 21:20 |
| tdasilva | i think it would be nice to fix that | 21:20 |
| timburke | so, before or after a merge? ;-) | 21:20 |
| tdasilva | heh, that's the question! | 21:20 |
| clayg | ahahah, if it's a bug we can demonstrate it should be before! | 21:21 |
| tdasilva | i'd say, let's mere as is, and follow-up patch before release | 21:21 |
| clayg | maybe I'll fix it and merge it before you guys find anymore - then we can start tracking and prioritizing them in launchpad | 21:21 |
| mattoliverau | can't you just create it on any new put request? But I guess I don't understand the problem. I'd hope if they magically came back (sitting on a power off node) they'd just sync back up. | 21:21 |
| mattoliverau | but, I'm sure there is something obvious I'm missing. /me will try and take a look at the code now that I'm back home. | 21:22 |
| clayg | tdasilva: that's an ok idea - I have merged things while opening new bugs because they seemed sufficiently orthoganal - but it was never a "that's minor" kind of thing | 21:22 |
| tdasilva | mattoliverau: currently no, and that's what needs to be fixed | 21:22 |
| clayg | mattoliverau: no, i agree - most likly this out of sync conditions are temporary | 21:22 |
| tdasilva | clayg: I'm just trying to avoid we get to 100 patchset mark :D | 21:23 |
| mattoliverau | lol | 21:23 |
| clayg | but I suppose it's possible the way it's implemented the client just say what they want and continue on their way - they have to wait for the cluster to fix something at somepoint... and tdasilva and timburke say that should be something a client should be able to fix right away | 21:23 |
| timburke | tdasilva, that's still like 25, 26 away! lot's of time :P | 21:23 |
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| clayg | tdasilva: LOL | 21:23 |
| clayg | tdasilva: i can really HEAR your voice in my head when you say that!!! 😍 | 21:24 |
| clayg | timburke: tdasilva: was that the only issue? | 21:25 |
| clayg | timburke: tdasilva: it sounds like we might be the only ones using it for awahile (like OVH is stuck with container-sync) | 21:25 |
| tdasilva | that we know of :/ | 21:25 |
| clayg | well I just mean that probably makes it easier to merge and just open a bug on lp - you can assign the bug to me if you want | 21:26 |
| clayg | I was ready to merge it last week and I'm sure it's only gotten better 👍 | 21:26 |
| timburke | i think that's my big blocker. there are a couple other funny things i've found, mostly to do with listings -- very minor things. limit not being respected in some non-happy-path cases, stuff like that | 21:26 |
| clayg | timburke: ok, we'll if you got some stuff in your head already you want to unload before we merge it that's fine - let's get to it | 21:27 |
| timburke | eh, i'd be fine with fixing up listings in follow-ups | 21:28 |
| timburke | on the s3 patch 673682 though... i've got a few more worries | 21:28 |
| patchbot | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/673682/ - swift - s3api: Implement object versioning API - 45 patch sets | 21:28 |
| timburke | i need to get more of that loaded into my head i think | 21:28 |
| clayg | oh, ok then! | 21:28 |
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| timburke | that said, though, part of the reason for having them as separate patches was that they're separate (if dependent) features and we could merge to s3 one later | 21:30 |
| clayg | timburke: yeah that's find - do you want to merge versoining; then tag; then probably merge s3api support after that? | 21:31 |
| timburke | clayg, that's one of the things i'm debating about | 21:32 |
| tdasilva | won't help with release notes tho | 21:32 |
| timburke | honestly, i'm not sure | 21:32 |
| clayg | ok, well step 1 is the versioning - and it sounds like you could use some help - is ther a repro/setup script/test for the split container or listing things? | 21:33 |
| clayg | or... just a bunch of review comments somewhere between patch #10-#86? | 21:33 |
| patchbot | No data found for patch 10 | 21:33 |
| timburke | maybe i should just push up my edits to the s3 patch and let it go in, too | 21:33 |
| clayg | well, you should definately push up your edits :D | 21:33 |
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| timburke | clayg, enable versioning on a container, then use an internal client or something to go delete the versions container | 21:34 |
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| timburke | we've already got a probe test that exercises the converse; i just haven't gotten around to writing this test yet | 21:35 |
| timburke | all right, sounds like we've got something of a plan for how what to do next on versioning... | 21:36 |
| timburke | #topic open discussion | 21:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:36 | |
| timburke | does anyone have anything else they'd like to bring up? | 21:37 |
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| timburke | all right, then | 21:40 |
| timburke | thank you all for coming, and thank you for working on swift! | 21:40 |
| timburke | #endmeeting | 21:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 21:40 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 22 21:40:40 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2020/swift.2020-01-22-21.00.html | 21:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2020/swift.2020-01-22-21.00.txt | 21:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2020/swift.2020-01-22-21.00.log.html | 21:40 |
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