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| gagehugo | #startmeeting security | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 16 15:00:12 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 15:00 |
| gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda agenda | 15:00 |
| fungi | aloha | 15:01 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 15:01 |
| gagehugo | #topic open discussion | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:03 | |
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| gagehugo | I've not had much upstream time this week unfortunately, so I don't really have much | 15:03 |
| gagehugo | fungi: anything new on your end? | 15:03 |
| gagehugo | I did see the vmt process change got some more rc votes | 15:04 |
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| fungi | yeah, it's getting close but hasn't merged yet so i haven't activated my followup todo list tasks for that | 15:05 |
| fungi | nothing especially exciting that i can recall. i think there's one public (nova?) vulnerability report which might be close to getting fixed in supported stable branches | 15:06 |
| gagehugo | do you have a link handy for that? | 15:06 |
| fungi | #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1492140 consoleauth token displayed in log file | 15:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1492140 in OpenStack Security Advisory "consoleauth token displayed in log file" [Undecided,Triaged] - Assigned to Tristan Cacqueray (tristan-cacqueray) | 15:06 |
| gagehugo | danke | 15:06 |
| fungi | looks like a fix merged to stable-train a month ago and then a stable/stein fix was put up for review earlier this week | 15:07 |
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| gagehugo | cool | 15:08 |
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| gagehugo | I was sent a barbican bug that was created from their architecture review when they applied for vmt coverage | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | I'll try to find that link | 15:13 |
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| redrobot | πππ | 15:13 |
| gagehugo | not sure why it wasn't marked as a security bug | 15:13 |
| gagehugo | redrobot: o/ | 15:13 |
| redrobot | gagehugo, π | 15:14 |
| gagehugo | I assume those are emojis, haha | 15:14 |
| * gagehugo makes a note to figure out why emojis aren't working in his irc client | 15:14 | |
| gagehugo | redrobot: anything you want to talk about? | 15:15 |
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| redrobot | nothing on my agenda, just curious about that barbican bug | 15:17 |
| gagehugo | it was something about ACL modification in the database | 15:19 |
| gagehugo | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/357978/13/doc/source/artifacts/barbican/newton/review-findings.rst #1 there | 15:19 |
| gagehugo | it's also a "bug" from 2016 haha | 15:19 |
| gagehugo | just something that someone internally here sent my way asking about | 15:20 |
| redrobot | Oh, hehe, yeah, I remember that now ... | 15:20 |
| gagehugo | redrobot: was there any progress on that (that you can remember)? | 15:21 |
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| gagehugo | it was 4 years ago now haha | 15:21 |
| redrobot | I don't think so... | 15:22 |
| redrobot | I took an OpenStack break shortly after that | 15:22 |
| gagehugo | heh | 15:22 |
| redrobot | but I think it's still a concern that the Database could be manipulated by an attacker | 15:22 |
| gagehugo | I guess it was only 3 years 3 months | 15:23 |
| gagehugo | "only" | 15:23 |
| gagehugo | yeah | 15:23 |
| gagehugo | although if your database is vulnerable, that's another issue | 15:23 |
| redrobot | Right. IIRC the plan was to implement some integrity checks on data coming from the database | 15:24 |
| redrobot | maybe use the crypto backend to hmac the acl table rows | 15:24 |
| gagehugo | hmm ok | 15:24 |
| gagehugo | sorry got a hard stop here, thanks redrobot fungi! | 15:25 |
| redrobot | I'll make a note to bring this up at the Barbican meeting next week. | 15:25 |
| gagehugo | redrobot: i'll make a note to attend | 15:25 |
| gagehugo | have a good rest of the week everyone | 15:26 |
| gagehugo | #endmeeting | 15:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:26 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 16 15:26:07 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2020/security.2020-01-16-15.00.html | 15:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2020/security.2020-01-16-15.00.txt | 15:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2020/security.2020-01-16-15.00.log.html | 15:26 |
| fungi | thanks gagehugo! | 15:27 |
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| SotK | #startmeeting storyboard | 18:07 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 16 18:07:54 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SotK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:07 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 18:07 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 18:07 |
| SotK | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard Agenda | 18:08 |
| diablo_rojo | o/ | 18:08 |
| fungi | hey-o | 18:08 |
| SotK | #topic Announcements | 18:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 18:08 | |
| SotK | I don't think we have anything to announce, and haven't seen anything worth noting migration-wise either, anything I've missed? | 18:08 |
| fungi | nothing storyboard-specific | 18:09 |
| fungi | for general announcements, there's an openstack individual director election underway | 18:09 |
| clarkb | it ends in 23 hours | 18:09 |
| fungi | openstack FOUNDATION individual director election, i mean | 18:09 |
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| fungi | yep, osf members are encouraged to vote | 18:09 |
| fungi | also clarkb may want to say something about the state of the opendev governance planning | 18:10 |
| fungi | since that impacts the storyboard project, as a part of opendev | 18:10 |
| diablo_rojo | (can confirm nothing migration related at this point) | 18:10 |
| clarkb | Basically in the near future I plan to push a change up to the openstack tc governance (and send corresponding email to openstack-discuss) to propose splitting opendev out from the TC's governance structure | 18:11 |
| clarkb | the idea being that in order to effectively serve more than just openstack it would be useful to not be formally under openstack | 18:12 |
| clarkb | we've been discussing what opendev's governance would look like on the infra list (happy to dig up that link if people want it here) | 18:12 |
| fungi | that sounds like plenty of info already, thanks! | 18:16 |
| diablo_rojo | Splitting it out from being under the TC makes sense to me. | 18:17 |
| SotK | I was following that thread, it all sounded good to me | 18:17 |
| diablo_rojo | I think I know the thread you're talking about, though I'm a litle behind. | 18:17 |
| SotK | what are the likely impacts on us, if any? | 18:18 |
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| fungi | new contributions to storyboard will cease to qualify contributors to vote in openstack tc elections | 18:19 |
| fungi | other than that, i can't think of much direct impact | 18:20 |
| SotK | makes sense | 18:22 |
| SotK | anything else on this? | 18:22 |
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| diablo_rojo | None from me | 18:23 |
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| SotK | #topic In Progress Work | 18:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "In Progress Work (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 18:24 | |
| SotK | (thanks for the info clarkb) | 18:24 |
| clarkb | no problem | 18:24 |
| fungi | "in progress" for me is to work out what swift api calls i need to make manually to create a container-specific user and set write permissions for it | 18:25 |
| diablo_rojo | I currently have nothing in progress, but I am sure there are things I should be doing. | 18:26 |
| SotK | I'm not actively working on anything atm either, but have been planning to look at doing something about our slow database queries at some point | 18:27 |
| diablo_rojo | Are there patches of yours SotK that I need to review? | 18:27 |
| diablo_rojo | Are we ready to merge the client changes for the attachments? Or does that need to wait? | 18:28 |
| SotK | it would be good to get reviews on https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:node-10-support and https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:es6-support | 18:28 |
| diablo_rojo | I can definitely check those out. | 18:28 |
| * diablo_rojo opens tabs | 18:28 | |
| SotK | I think the clientside attachments stuff is waiting on fungi creating that user to test with storyboard-dev | 18:28 |
| diablo_rojo | Thats what I thought | 18:28 |
| SotK | but yeah, I'm assuming that merging mordred's container change (and so also all the things it depends on) will be useful for infra folk | 18:29 |
| diablo_rojo | I can give that a look too. It sounds familiar, like I had reviewed it preivously, but I might be thinking of something else | 18:29 |
| SotK | its included in the es6-support topic I linked, since it's dependent on the other change in there iirc | 18:31 |
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| SotK | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/691472/ feels like a simple fix worth getting merged | 18:31 |
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| SotK | anything else folk want to mention in-progress? | 18:34 |
| diablo_rojo | I don't think so? Not right now anyway. | 18:34 |
| SotK | #topic Open Discussion | 18:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 18:35 | |
| SotK | anyone have anything? | 18:35 |
| SotK | or shall we finish a bit early? | 18:35 |
| diablo_rojo | Do we want me to try to get another intern for the summer? | 18:36 |
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| diablo_rojo | (Northern Hemisphere summer) | 18:36 |
| diablo_rojo | Just something to think about | 18:36 |
| diablo_rojo | outreachy intern that is | 18:36 |
| diablo_rojo | Don't need to decide now | 18:36 |
| fungi | i didn't really have anything else. still trying to catch up after the holidays | 18:36 |
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| diablo_rojo | That too. | 18:37 |
| * SotK will give it some thought :) | 18:37 | |
| diablo_rojo | That's all I had | 18:37 |
| SotK | in that case, lets reclaim 20 minutes of time | 18:37 |
| SotK | thanks for coming everyone! | 18:37 |
| SotK | #endmeeting | 18:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 18:37 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 16 18:37:46 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2020/storyboard.2020-01-16-18.07.html | 18:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2020/storyboard.2020-01-16-18.07.txt | 18:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2020/storyboard.2020-01-16-18.07.log.html | 18:37 |
| diablo_rojo | Thanks SotK! | 18:39 |
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| fungi | thanks SotK! | 18:44 |
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| efried | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 16 21:00:05 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is efried. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:00 |
| efried | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Weekly_Nova_team_meeting | 21:01 |
| melwitt | o/ | 21:01 |
| efried | #topic Last meeting | 21:02 |
| efried | #link Minutes from last meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-01-09-14.00.html | 21:02 |
| efried | #action efried to paw through blueprints and specs and reconcile | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Last meeting (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:02 | |
| efried | I didn't get around to that since last week :( | 21:02 |
| efried | Any old business? | 21:02 |
| efried | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 21:03 |
| efried | One Critical bug | 21:03 |
| efried | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1860021 | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:03 | |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1860021 in devstack "nova-live-migration fails 100% with "mysql: command not found" on subnode" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to RadosΕaw Piliszek (yoctozepto) | 21:03 |
| gmann | o/ | 21:03 |
| efried | That's being worked via https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702960/ and tested via https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702961/ | 21:03 |
| efried | we think it's working, but rackcdn never works for me so I can't get to the logs and figure it out. | 21:04 |
| efried | and when I can, I have to gunzip them. | 21:04 |
| efried | Makes a person appreciate how nice our tools *usually* are. | 21:04 |
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| melwitt | +1 I'm going to be trying to learn how to convert jobs and get away from the gzipped files because it's killing me too trying to get some debug info on a different gate bug | 21:05 |
| efried | oh, I also can't set up e-r for that bug, I suspect due to the gz-ness (logstash can't find that message, guessing because it only has access to the zipped versions of the files) | 21:06 |
| efried | thanks melwitt, that would be super helpful. | 21:06 |
| efried | #topic Reminders | 21:06 |
| efried | 4 weeks to spec freeze. | 21:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:07 | |
| efried | As noted, any blueprints that are approved and still open at that time will be subject to a prioritization/scrubbing exercise. | 21:07 |
| efried | i.e. just because your blueprint is definition:approved doesn't mean it'll wind up direction:approved for ussuri. | 21:08 |
| efried | so you can cheat by getting your code merged before spec freeze. | 21:08 |
| efried | other reminders? | 21:08 |
| efried | #topic Sub/related team Highlights | 21:08 |
| efried | Placement (tetsuro) | 21:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sub/related team Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:08 | |
| efried | I think things are pretty quiet here. melwitt, did you want to mention consumer types? | 21:09 |
| melwitt | tetsuro recently reviewed consumer types which is super cool. I'm gonna to update in response to his comments | 21:09 |
| efried | good deal. | 21:09 |
| efried | API (gmann) | 21:09 |
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| gmann | one update on policy refresh BP | 21:09 |
| gmann | i have 4-5 APIs up for review for this | 21:09 |
| gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/policy-defaults-refresh | 21:09 |
| efried | who's qualified to review those? (hint: I'm not) | 21:09 |
| gmann | everyone :) | 21:10 |
| efried | If we get desperate, I suppose I would proxy approval from a keystoner. | 21:10 |
| gmann | stephenfin: john being reviewing the previous patches | 21:10 |
| gmann | melwitt: ^^ | 21:10 |
| melwitt | yes, I want to help. I would feel better relying on john for the first pass though | 21:11 |
| gmann | thanks. | 21:11 |
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| efried | Anything else gmann? | 21:12 |
| gmann | one quick thing on BP status | 21:12 |
| gmann | you said Direction field is imp not definition to select for ussuri ? | 21:12 |
| gmann | definition is pending approval here so not sure if that musg be approved - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/policy-defaults-refresh | 21:12 |
| gmann | must | 21:12 |
| gmann | and we do not get surprise at the last minute when you freeze the BP/spec things | 21:13 |
| efried | both are important. | 21:13 |
| efried | definition comes first, basically just means spec is approved. "If we're gonna do it, we know how we're gonna do it" | 21:13 |
| efried | direction means "we're gonna do it in ussuri" | 21:13 |
| gmann | ok in my case definition is pending which should be done. can you change ? | 21:13 |
| efried | do you have a spec? | 21:14 |
| efried | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/547850 | 21:14 |
| gmann | spec is merged. this is for policy referesh | 21:14 |
| efried | cool, I'll mark definition:approved.... | 21:14 |
| gmann | yeah | 21:14 |
| gmann | thanks | 21:14 |
| efried | wait, that was train | 21:14 |
| efried | do we have an ussuri rendition of it? | 21:14 |
| melwitt | it's the same one, it was not approved in train | 21:15 |
| gmann | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686058/ | 21:15 |
| melwitt | meaning, this is the first time it's been approved and first time any impl has landed | 21:15 |
| efried | now I'm confused | 21:15 |
| melwitt | oh, am I wrong? | 21:15 |
| efried | I think the first link above was the approved train spec, and the second is the approved ussuri spec. | 21:15 |
| efried | I'll mark the bp... | 21:15 |
| gmann | that was merged for train also and re-proposed merges in ussuri too - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686058/ | 21:15 |
| melwitt | oh, geez. I didn't know it was previously approved. sorry | 21:16 |
| melwitt | or more accurately, I forgot. sorry | 21:16 |
| efried | okay, it looks like the fields were backwards; I fixed. | 21:16 |
| efried | moving on? | 21:17 |
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| efried | #topic Stuck Reviews | 21:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:17 | |
| efried | any? | 21:17 |
| efried | #topic Open discussion | 21:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:17 | |
| efried | any? | 21:17 |
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| alistarle | Yes | 21:18 |
| efried | alistarle: your floor | 21:18 |
| gmann | efried: now Direction became 'Need Approval'. | 21:18 |
| alistarle | I have done the modification you told me last week about this spec (https://review.opendev.org/#/c/701763/) | 21:18 |
| efried | gmann: yes. At spec freeze we'll either change that to Approved or punt the bp to the next release. | 21:18 |
| alistarle | So microversion bump in code, and try to improve some things in the microversion docs | 21:18 |
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| efried | I spoiled you by responding quickly to your original code patch :) | 21:19 |
| gmann | efried: ah i see, got it. | 21:19 |
| melwitt | efried: so we're allowed to merge code that says 'Need Approval'? just to be clear | 21:20 |
| alistarle | Yes I see that ;) I see that blueprint must change status before reviewing, but I didn't see how to do it in the docs | 21:20 |
| efried | melwitt: yeah, if you can get your code merged before we do the scrub, you're safe from the reaper's scythe. | 21:20 |
| melwitt | ack | 21:20 |
| efried | alistarle: I just tweaked the bp record to show up against ussuri | 21:20 |
| efried | but yeah, the spec needs to be approved before we mark definition:approved | 21:21 |
| efried | and assuming that happens, then in a month we'll decide whether we want it to happen in ussuri. | 21:21 |
| melwitt | so once definition:approved, start merging code, then if direction changes to denied at spec freeze, no more code merges? | 21:22 |
| alistarle | Ok fine, and do you think it is targetable before the spec freeze ? I see that it is in only 4 weeks, and it seems to be a lot of work here | 21:22 |
| gmann | melwitt: efried what if half of the code is merged which is highly possibilities for most of the BP. how we make decision on Direction then ? | 21:23 |
| gmann | i thought having liaison in spec make it clear that it is ok and accepted for that cycle | 21:24 |
| efried | nothing to do with liaisons | 21:24 |
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| efried | direction is a way for us to acknowledge at spec freeze time that we've bitten off more than we can reasonably chew for the release, and limit our scope to things we consider "above the line", so that a) we don't wind up with part-but-not-all of many things merged, and b) we increase the chance that the stuff that merges is the important stuff. | 21:25 |
| efried | if there's a partially-merged blueprint that we decide to cut off, hopefully it's a blueprint that doesn't *need* to be all merged together (otherwise we should have -2ed the bottom until the series was ready, regardless of prioritization/dates/etc.) | 21:26 |
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| efried | alistarle: Don't know, sorry. As we get closer to spec freeze there will be a push to review pending specs. There's a lot going on, and unfortunately urgency tends to trump importance most of the time. | 21:28 |
| efried | Like right now our gate is completely broken, so I'm not looking at specs. | 21:28 |
| efried | kind of thing. | 21:28 |
| alistarle | For sure I understand that, no problem :) | 21:29 |
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| efried | And, look, if I'm the only one standing around at spec freeze time foaming at the mouth about it not being okay to have more stuff approved than we can possibly merge, I'll back down and let the release fall into the tempestuous travesty it usually is. | 21:30 |
| efried | so there | 21:31 |
| efried | Any other opens? | 21:31 |
| efried | #endmeeting | 21:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 16 21:31:37 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-01-16-21.00.html | 21:31 |
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