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| slaweq | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Dec 6 14:00:15 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| slaweq | hi | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 14:00 |
| ralonsoh | hi | 14:01 |
| slaweq | lets wait few more minutes to have quorum | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | ack | 14:03 |
| njohnston | slaweq: I can joino/ | 14:03 |
| slaweq | amotoki: haleyb yamamoto: drivers meeting, are You around? | 14:06 |
| yamamoto | hi | 14:06 |
| slaweq | hi yamamoto | 14:07 |
| slaweq | so we have quorum now | 14:07 |
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| slaweq | and we can start | 14:07 |
| slaweq | #topic RFEs | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 14:07 | |
| slaweq | first of all I want to talk a bit about https://review.opendev.org/#/c/678865/ | 14:08 |
| slaweq | RFE for this is already accepted | 14:08 |
| slaweq | but proposal from davidsha is to move classifier framework to be in-tree service plugin | 14:09 |
| slaweq | we discussed that with amotoki last week | 14:09 |
| slaweq | but as today we have more drivers here, I would like to ask again to review this spec and what do You think about moving this service plugin to be in-tree plugin | 14:09 |
| mlavalle | I put it yesterday in my pile of reviews | 14:10 |
| haleyb | hi, sorry i'm late | 14:10 |
| ralonsoh | just to point out: the scope is reduced to QoS and DSCP. In the spec we should also have the DB definition and the API (as Lajos mentioned) | 14:11 |
| ralonsoh | but as I commented in QoS meeting and last week here, I'm ok with it | 14:11 |
| slaweq | I'm ok with this too if there is no other easy way | 14:12 |
| slaweq | but I would like to know others' opinion too | 14:13 |
| njohnston | I think it makes far more sense for it to be in-tree | 14:13 |
| slaweq | we can discuss that here or in the review of the spec if You want | 14:13 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: haleyb yamamoto: so please review this spec soon so we can move forward with this RFE finally :) | 14:14 |
| slaweq | would that be good for You? | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | as i said above, it is in my pile as of yesterday | 14:15 |
| haleyb | i'll put it on my pile as well | 14:15 |
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| yamamoto | i'll leave the spec open in one of my browser tab so that i will notice it next week | 14:16 |
| slaweq | thx | 14:17 |
| slaweq | lets move on than | 14:17 |
| slaweq | next rfe | 14:17 |
| slaweq | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1847068 | 14:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1847068 in neutron "[RFE] create option in neutron.conf to disable designate+neutron consistency" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to Gregoire Mahe (gregoiremahe) | 14:17 |
| slaweq | we talked about it few times but I want to get back to it once again and agree if we should abandon it or not | 14:18 |
| slaweq | I'm for abandoning this rfe as it is trying to solve some very specific to ovh use case | 14:18 |
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| mlavalle | I am also for not accepting it. I just looked at it and I don't see new info in the RFE. So my position stands | 14:20 |
| mlavalle | I'm open to listen to arguments, though | 14:20 |
| njohnston | If designate performance is so terrible that neutron needs to treat it with such measures then I think the better solution would be for the requestor to apply effort to fixing the issues they have with designate | 14:22 |
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| njohnston | I think "let's make into openstack project #1 that it can never trust that project #2 is going to do it's job" is a terrible statement | 14:23 |
| njohnston | *bake | 14:23 |
| slaweq | njohnston: actually, from my understanding they want to do something like that because they want to use own driver in designate and they want to test that in production without breaking e.g. neutron if something would go wrong | 14:24 |
| mlavalle | well, and it is not a Designate problem in general | 14:24 |
| njohnston | wait, so once the testing is done they would disable this measure and not use it anymore? | 14:24 |
| mlavalle | my employer uses the current Neutron - Designate integration in production every day without a problem | 14:24 |
| slaweq | njohnston: idk, but that was my understanding | 14:25 |
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| mlavalle | this RFE is to address a specific way OVH is deploying Designate | 14:25 |
| slaweq | yes, so my vote for this is: -1 | 14:27 |
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| njohnston | -1 | 14:28 |
| yamamoto | -1 | 14:29 |
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| slaweq | haleyb: any thought? | 14:29 |
| haleyb | i would agree, -1 | 14:30 |
| yamamoto | it seems a temporal solution even for ovh | 14:30 |
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| mlavalle | slaweq: please tell the OVH folds that I will be available to comment in their code if they want me to | 14:30 |
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| mlavalle | folks^^^ | 14:30 |
| slaweq | ok, so we all agreed to -1 it | 14:30 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: sure | 14:30 |
| slaweq | so I will abandon this rfe with comment why we decided that | 14:31 |
| slaweq | thx | 14:31 |
| slaweq | next one for today is from ralonsoh | 14:31 |
| slaweq | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1851362 | 14:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1851362 in neutron "[RFE] ports do not inherit their associated network's policy" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 14:31 |
| ralonsoh | in a nutshell: in the CLI we are not showing the network QoS policy for a port | 14:31 |
| ralonsoh | a port can inherit the network QoS policy | 14:32 |
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| ralonsoh | and currently the agents are using it, if no port qos policy is defined | 14:32 |
| slaweq | so it's only about "cosmetic" change of API, right? | 14:32 |
| ralonsoh | exactly | 14:32 |
| ralonsoh | only | 14:32 |
| ralonsoh | see c#1 | 14:32 |
| slaweq | Personally I'm ok with such change | 14:34 |
| slaweq | ofcourse it has to be discoverable | 14:34 |
| slaweq | so new api extension will be needed | 14:34 |
| ralonsoh | for sure, see first patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/693234/ | 14:35 |
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| mlavalle | so, from the Neutron code perspective, is it just a matter of populating the port response with the network's policy id? | 14:35 |
| ralonsoh | exactly | 14:36 |
| ralonsoh | and then use it in the SDK and the OSclient | 14:36 |
| ralonsoh | this parameter will be read-only | 14:36 |
| mlavalle | yeap, I see the extension definition in the patch ^^^^ | 14:36 |
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| mlavalle | so yeah, let's do it | 14:37 |
| mlavalle | in fact, it might be considered a bug | 14:37 |
| slaweq | yamamoto, haleyb: any thoughts about this one? | 14:37 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: yes, but as it require api change I wanted to treat it as rfe and discuss here | 14:37 |
| mlavalle | because, as the filing of this RFE shows, it confuses users | 14:37 |
| mlavalle | cool, let's do it | 14:38 |
| ralonsoh | thank you all | 14:38 |
| yamamoto | it seems reasonable. i'm not sure it's what the submitter wants to see though. | 14:38 |
| ralonsoh | yamamoto, I talked to him and this is the problem: they can't see what's the qos policy on this port | 14:39 |
| ralonsoh | (the one in use, in this case, the network one, inherited ) | 14:39 |
| yamamoto | ralonsoh: ok, then it's fine for me | 14:39 |
| haleyb | sorry, got sidetracked, but based on the bug and conversation looks good to me | 14:39 |
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| slaweq | ok, so I will approve it just after the meeting | 14:41 |
| slaweq | as we all agreed with that | 14:41 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: You will implement that, right? | 14:42 |
| ralonsoh | thanks | 14:42 |
| ralonsoh | I'm on it now | 14:42 |
| slaweq | thx | 14:42 |
| slaweq | ok, lets move on | 14:42 |
| slaweq | next one for today | 14:42 |
| slaweq | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1851609 | 14:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1851609 in neutron "Add an option for graceful l3 agent shutdown" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev) | 14:42 |
| slaweq | haleyb: I know You were discussing with Oleg about this | 14:43 |
| haleyb | slaweq: yes, i had some questions for him, hopefully didn't confuse him with my container comments | 14:44 |
| slaweq | thx haleyb for taking care of it | 14:45 |
| haleyb | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/693323/ is the review btw | 14:45 |
| slaweq | for me this rfe sounds reasonable for use cases when L3 agent is running in container and in the same container also child processes are running | 14:46 |
| haleyb | i don't think my employer needs it, but it could be useful for others perhaps | 14:46 |
| slaweq | exactly as haleyb said, it's not the case e.g. in TripleO but for other deployment tools it can be useful | 14:47 |
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| mlavalle | good discussion in the RFE | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | you didn't create confusion haleyb | 14:49 |
| haleyb | i just didn't have a good answer for how we did it, some of that stuff is black magic to me | 14:49 |
| haleyb | it does solve a problem that can happen in a single-pod neutron deployment | 14:51 |
| mlavalle | is there a chance that it is described somewhere in the TripleO docs? | 14:51 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: I can ask beagles for that, it's his "baby" | 14:52 |
| slaweq | :) | 14:52 |
| mlavalle | I don't say reject this RFE for now, but maybe if we reseacrh it a bit, we could find a way to re-use what TripleO did | 14:53 |
| mlavalle | maybe it is not that complicated and we save Neutron of another config option | 14:53 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: good point, I will ask beagles for details about how it's done in TripleO and we will get back to this discussion next week | 14:54 |
| mlavalle | BTW, I am an advocate of Neutron supporting containers as much as possible | 14:54 |
| slaweq | are all ok with this plan? | 14:55 |
| mlavalle | if you can get beagles to comment in the RFE, it would be good | 14:55 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: neutron isn't aware it's happening AUIU, it just spawns things as it always did, but there should be info around to give to Oleg and see what he thinks | 14:55 |
| mlavalle | oh yeah | 14:56 |
| mlavalle | and that's the way it should be | 14:56 |
| mlavalle | my comment above is just meant to say that we in the Neutron team should try to support the growth of Neutron in containers as much as we can | 14:57 |
| haleyb | ack | 14:57 |
| slaweq | ok, we are almost on top of the hour | 14:58 |
| slaweq | so lets ask beagles to comment on this rfe and we will get back to it | 14:58 |
| slaweq | thx for attending the meeting and have a great weekend | 14:58 |
| slaweq | o/ | 14:58 |
| mlavalle | cool, have a nice weekend! | 14:59 |
| slaweq | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Dec 6 14:59:15 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2019/neutron_drivers.2019-12-06-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2019/neutron_drivers.2019-12-06-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2019/neutron_drivers.2019-12-06-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
| ralonsoh | bye | 14:59 |
| yamamoto | bye | 14:59 |
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