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| efried | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 3 14:00:00 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is efried. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 14:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:00 |
| dansmith | o/ | 14:00 |
| gibi | o/ | 14:00 |
| * gibi has a parallel meeting in person | 14:00 | |
| artom | o/ | 14:01 |
| efried | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 14:02 |
| efried | #topic Last meeting | 14:02 |
| efried | #link Minutes from last meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-09-26-21.00.html | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Last meeting (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:02 | |
| efried | No actions from last meeting, anyone have old biz? | 14:02 |
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| efried | #topic Release News | 14:03 |
| efried | RC1 is out, stable/train is forked, master is ussuri | 14:03 |
| efried | #link Nova Ussuri schedule seeded https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Ussuri_Release_Schedule | 14:03 |
| efried | Please have a look at ^ and compare to the overall ussuri schedule (linked from there) and lmk if there are mistakes etc. | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release News (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:03 | |
| efried | #link Release todos: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-train-release-todo | 14:04 |
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| efried | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686325/ (console docs fixup) is merged in master and cherry-picked to train, needs a stable review | 14:04 |
| dansmith | shall we do reserved db migrations per usual? | 14:05 |
| efried | melwitt had the original, mriedem did the cherry-pick (implicit +2 iiuc), so I think we can do it with just one. | 14:05 |
| mriedem | dansmith: yeah before we forget and land a db schema change :) | 14:05 |
| efried | dansmith: o, yes | 14:05 |
| efried | volunteers? | 14:05 |
| dansmith | I'll do it | 14:05 |
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| dansmith | I'm inclined to do fewer than normal, any objections? | 14:06 |
| dansmith | like, five each | 14:06 |
| mriedem | i think that's what we've been doing for a few years now | 14:06 |
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| mriedem | but yeah +1 to that | 14:06 |
| dansmith | I thought we did ten last time, but okay | 14:06 |
| dansmith | thanks for making me look dumb :) | 14:07 |
| dansmith | mriedem: only last cycle did we do five | 14:07 |
| dansmith | so hrmph. | 14:07 |
| mriedem | YEARS | 14:07 |
| efried | The only other RC2 candidate on the list is a SEV fixup which aspiers is still digging into | 14:07 |
| * dansmith smacks mriedem in the mouth | 14:07 | |
| efried | I think ^ is "SEV doesn't work with a certain combination of settings" which, if we don't get it into the train release, at least isn't as bad as "you thought you had SEV but you didn't" or "your host crashes". | 14:08 |
| efried | aspiers: around? Any update? | 14:09 |
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| mriedem | doesn't work as in silently ignores the sev requirement or blows up? | 14:09 |
| efried | I think "guest won't boot" | 14:09 |
| efried | doesn't ignore the sev requirement - that was the first thing I asked. | 14:09 |
| stephenfin | If it's the thing I'm thinking of, causes the guest OS to crash | 14:09 |
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| stephenfin | the IOMMU stuff? | 14:09 |
| mriedem | will libvirt raise an error trying to start the guest? | 14:10 |
| mriedem | or you just have a running domain that is busted? | 14:10 |
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| efried | (thanks dansmith) | 14:10 |
| efried | #action dansmith to propose db migration placeholders | 14:10 |
| stephenfin | unfortunately no | 14:10 |
| stephenfin | at least not from reading aspiers' comments | 14:10 |
| mriedem | great | 14:10 |
| mriedem | if it doesn't make train, there should be a known issue release note and a big fat warning in the docs | 14:10 |
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| stephenfin | "DO NOT USE IS BROKE" | 14:11 |
| stephenfin | that ought to do the trick | 14:11 |
| efried | yes, good point, we should propose a patch for ^ and put it under the fix. | 14:11 |
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| mriedem | well, | 14:11 |
| mriedem | are you going to revert that if the fix lands? reverting release notes is kind of weird. | 14:12 |
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| mriedem | git history wise | 14:12 |
| mriedem | i'd say don't put them in the same series, make them separate alternatives | 14:12 |
| efried | fair | 14:12 |
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| mriedem | i might even suggest putting an asterisk in the prelude next to the sev thing | 14:12 |
| mriedem | like barry bonds trying to get into the hall of fame | 14:12 |
| mriedem | because really, | 14:13 |
| * stephenfin wonders who this Barry Bonds fellow is | 14:13 | |
| mriedem | because if there are issues like this, e.g. combinations of things breaks the guest, what other unknowns are there? | 14:13 |
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| stephenfin | That's kind of true of any significant new feature though | 14:14 |
| stephenfin | at least we found this corner case ahead of release | 14:14 |
| efried | yeah, if we never had any bugs, what would we do with our day? | 14:14 |
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| mriedem | the difference is, | 14:14 |
| mriedem | if you think you're getting a secure vm and it's not | 14:14 |
| mriedem | meaning the potential for CVEs from using this are higher | 14:14 |
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| mriedem | than any other random old feature | 14:14 |
| mriedem | right? | 14:15 |
| efried | right, and that's not what happens | 14:15 |
| mriedem | in this case... | 14:15 |
| mriedem | anyway, would be cool if the sev minded people can get that fix done so it's not something we need to document as a known issue to begin with | 14:15 |
| mriedem | i realize they are prioritizing backporting it to rocky... | 14:15 |
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| efried | Again with the caveat that I don't understand this stuff deeply, I picked up from aspiers that that (lying about SEV being on) is not a thing that can happen. | 14:16 |
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| efried | anyway | 14:16 |
| efried | o, stephenfin just volunteered (in -nova) to | 14:17 |
| efried | #action stephenfin draft the SEV bug warning patch | 14:17 |
| efried | thanks stephenfin | 14:17 |
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| efried | moving on. | 14:18 |
| efried | any other RC potential items? | 14:19 |
| efried | if you think of something, update https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-train-release-todo please | 14:19 |
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| efried | #topic Summit/PTG Planning | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit/PTG Planning (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:19 | |
| efried | Since many will not be in Shanghai, I'm going to try to do virtual ptg discussions via email, as much ahead of the ptg as possible. | 14:20 |
| efried | one such discussion: | 14:21 |
| efried | Ussuri scope containment | 14:21 |
| efried | #link start of thread http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-September/thread.html#9832 | 14:21 |
| efried | #link continued http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/thread.html#9835 | 14:21 |
| efried | #link Spec template update for "core liaison" https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685857/ | 14:21 |
| efried | There seems to be at least vague general not-opposition to the core liaison thing. I'm going to update the spec template patch as soon as we're done here per mriedem's catch | 14:22 |
| dansmith | we have a couple merged already, | 14:22 |
| efried | yes | 14:22 |
| dansmith | and at least one almost ready to be merged | 14:22 |
| * dansmith selfishly states | 14:22 | |
| efried | I'd like to get those filled in | 14:23 |
| dansmith | so if we merge that we'll just edit those? | 14:23 |
| efried | yes | 14:23 |
| mriedem | and if we can't find liaisons for already approved things we'll just un-approve them? | 14:23 |
| efried | I'm going to propose those edits in the same patch with placeholders for now so I can take the optional-ness out of the checker. | 14:23 |
| dansmith | and in my spec's case, I just put myself as the sponsor? | 14:23 |
| efried | mriedem: that seems reasonable, yes. | 14:23 |
| mriedem | dansmith: you can mark me as a sponsor if it means anything | 14:24 |
| dansmith | or do you want me to try to find someone else if possible? | 14:24 |
| efried | dansmith: yes, unless anyone thinks the "cores (and experienced nova devs) can be their own sponsor" thing is a bad idea | 14:24 |
| dansmith | mriedem: ack, I'm happy to do whatever the desired convention is | 14:24 |
| efried | sorry, dansmith that was "yes, you can sponsor yourself" | 14:24 |
| dansmith | efried: it really just means that I'm owning the "I know who to poke for reviews" tenet of your hypothesis right? | 14:24 |
| efried | yes, and the "I know what it means for my code to be ready for reviews" | 14:25 |
| mriedem | that's my understanding | 14:25 |
| efried | and other cultural arcana | 14:25 |
| dansmith | roger | 14:25 |
| mriedem | i retract my sponsorship offer | 14:25 |
| dansmith | hah | 14:25 |
| mriedem | we should have like a, | 14:25 |
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| dansmith | I hope there is a limit of one core sponsor per cycle, so this can be my only one | 14:25 |
| mriedem | thing that says "if you're a core and approve this spec, you are a bad person if you don't review it" thing | 14:25 |
| dansmith | (not really) | 14:25 |
| efried | I recognize this is mostly noise for core-proposed features; it's there more for the "outsiders". | 14:26 |
| dansmith | efried: I know, which is why I asked so I can set the proper example | 14:26 |
| efried | ack | 14:26 |
| dansmith | did you want t discuss this proposal now? | 14:27 |
| dansmith | or just mention it in the realm of vPTG discussions? | 14:27 |
| efried | we can discuss if there's discussion needed, or we can do that in the review, up to y'all | 14:27 |
| efried | the other "scope containment" issue is more controversial. | 14:28 |
| efried | First, I apologize if any of my responses have come across as belligerent or sarcastic, I'm really really trying not to do that, trying to keep everything reasonable. | 14:29 |
| mriedem | i haven't taken it that way fwiw | 14:29 |
| efried | I recognize my bid of 25 (now 30) and the reasoning behind it was way simplistic. | 14:30 |
| dansmith | ack, it's hard for me to detach the core sponsorship thing from the throttling, but if we call it liaison per your description here, and then potentially use that in throttling then it makes sense to push forward on this regardless of the throttling | 14:30 |
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| * dansmith said throttling a lot in that | 14:31 | |
| efried | note that a) it's just a first stab, please let's discuss and try to refine, but also b) I was deliberately trying to avoid delving too much into the whys and wherefores because imo those discussions can't possible end well | 14:31 |
| efried | heh, dansmith and throttling | 14:31 |
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| mriedem | i think the sponsorship thing makes sense and has happened implicitly in some cases, e.g. me and several of brinzhang's api changes in train | 14:32 |
| gibi | I'm OK with the sponsorsip thing as well as the proposed ~30is limit | 14:32 |
| gibi | does the bps will be selected first come first served basis? | 14:33 |
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| sean-k-mooney | that is something i have been wondering | 14:33 |
| gibi | I mean from those bps that are qualify | 14:33 |
| dansmith | that's my primary complaint about choosing a number, | 14:34 |
| dansmith | that choosing a number requires more oversight and planning than "the first 25 to apply" | 14:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | it kind of punishes people that are new to nova | 14:34 |
| efried | gibi: tbd, but I was thinking not. | 14:34 |
| efried | I was thinking we trim at/after spec freeze | 14:34 |
| dansmith | because if that's the case, then we're going to be doing accelerators and a bunch of trivial things in U :) | 14:34 |
| mriedem | well, first 25 to actually get approved with a sponsor if they aren't core-driven | 14:34 |
| mriedem | first served are usually things that are previously approved, | 14:35 |
| mriedem | and in that respect i think it's fair for them to get a bit more priority / attention | 14:35 |
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| mriedem | i.e. finish the old debt before taking on new debt | 14:35 |
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| sean-k-mooney | do we have a sense for how many items form train we will cary over | 14:35 |
| sean-k-mooney | like cyborg integration come to mind | 14:35 |
| dansmith | we have two major ones already in the tree | 14:36 |
| dansmith | cyborg and cross-cell-resize | 14:36 |
| mriedem | the 2 big ones are cyborg and cross cell resize | 14:36 |
| efried | Yeah, fwiw, when I was mulling this idea originally, I was going to propose "hard limit of $N where first dibs are previously approved, second dibs are previously proposed but not approved in train" | 14:36 |
| mriedem | the blueprints for spot instances and rebuild from cell0 are candidates but i'm pretty sure cern has given up on upstreaming those | 14:36 |
| mriedem | after 2-3 releases | 14:36 |
| dansmith | efried: note that previously approved in a cycle where we had no core sponsorship seems unfair, so you mean "previously approved and where there's a sponsor" right? | 14:36 |
| * gibi wants to finish live migration, evacuate, unshelve with bandwidth | 14:36 | |
| mriedem | gibi: commence to spec'ing :) | 14:37 |
| efried | dansmith: Right, the above was before I had the core sponsor concept in mind. | 14:37 |
| sean-k-mooney | gibi: you are not the only one that whats those so i hope they happen too | 14:37 |
| gibi | mriedem: sure, sure | 14:37 |
| mriedem | fwiw things deferred from train are here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/ussuri | 14:37 |
| efried | at this point, even previously-approved should have core sponsor (which is why the already-merged ones need to be updated) | 14:37 |
| mriedem | *though not all things targeted at ussuri were approved in train, maybe just discussed at length | 14:38 |
| sean-k-mooney | well i thin mriedem quifies for cross cell | 14:38 |
| efried | As usual, we don't auto-approve a deferred thing unless someone reproposes it | 14:38 |
| mriedem | yup so spot instances takes care of itself i guess | 14:38 |
| sean-k-mooney | efried: and i assume you would sponcer cyborg | 14:38 |
| mriedem | maybe we should get out of the weeds and save the details for -nova | 14:39 |
| efried | Several of those deferred things were non-core-ish where they just got zero action in train ("developer walked away" category) | 14:39 |
| efried | Cool, I'll just bring it back to: Please let's continue discussing ways to put a concrete cap on the amount of feature work in ussuri, in a way that's simple to understand and implement. | 14:40 |
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| efried | #topic Stable branch status | 14:40 |
| efried | #link stable/train: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/train | 14:40 |
| efried | #link stable/stein: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/stein | 14:40 |
| efried | #link stable/rocky: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/rocky | 14:40 |
| efried | #link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/queens | 14:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:40 | |
| mriedem | i've got a release request up for stein, | 14:40 |
| mriedem | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686301/ | 14:40 |
| mriedem | need to work on some more rocky and queens reviews | 14:40 |
| mriedem | though many are my backports so... | 14:41 |
| mriedem | help | 14:41 |
| efried | mriedem: stein release request ready to go at this point? | 14:41 |
| mriedem | yes | 14:41 |
| dansmith | I've been trying to suck a little less lately | 14:41 |
| mriedem | updated the hash this morning | 14:41 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: it's appreciated | 14:41 |
| efried | I see three stein patches with a +2 on them, we're good leaving those behind for now | 14:41 |
| efried | ? | 14:41 |
| mriedem | even if i don't say so | 14:41 |
| dansmith | mriedem: wouldn't hurt to send me flowers occasionally, baby | 14:41 |
| mriedem | one of those has a -1 | 14:41 |
| mriedem | or 2 -1s | 14:42 |
| mriedem | the others are low priority | 14:42 |
| efried | cool | 14:42 |
| mriedem | dansmith: laura first if any :/ | 14:42 |
| efried | I'll review the release patch fwiw | 14:42 |
| * mriedem is a bad partner | 14:42 | |
| dansmith | yeah the +2d -1ed one is hard to filter out | 14:42 |
| efried | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 14:43 |
| efried | No Critical bugs | 14:43 |
| efried | #link 74 new untriaged bugs (+2 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 14:43 |
| efried | #link 3 untagged untriaged bugs (-1 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW | 14:43 |
| efried | Any bug discussions we didn't already have? | 14:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:43 | |
| efried | #topic Gate status | 14:43 |
| efried | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 14:43 |
| efried | #link 3rd party CI status (seems to be back in action) http://ciwatch.mmedvede.net/project?project=nova | 14:43 |
| efried | seems not-too-bad | 14:43 |
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| mriedem | well, | 14:43 |
| mriedem | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/#1844929 | 14:43 |
| mriedem | i have a debug patch up for that https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684118/ but am unable to recreate on that patch, | 14:44 |
| efried | oo | 14:44 |
| mriedem | so question is if we want to just land that | 14:44 |
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| mriedem | it can be answered after the meeting as well | 14:44 |
| efried | will review | 14:46 |
| efried | #topic Reminders | 14:46 |
| efried | any? | 14:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:46 | |
| efried | #topic Sub/related team Highlights | 14:46 |
| efried | Placement (cdent/tetsuro) | 14:46 |
| efried | ? | 14:46 |
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| efried | API (gmann) | 14:47 |
| efried | I'd like to point out an API patch | 14:47 |
| efried | #link allow versioned discovery unauthenticated https://review.opendev.org/685181 | 14:47 |
| efried | I guess alex_xu (on vacation) and johnthetubaguy (?) are the most qualified to look at this, but anyone else who can give feedback, that would be good. | 14:48 |
| efried | #topic Stuck Reviews | 14:48 |
| efried | any? | 14:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:48 | |
| efried | #topic Review status page | 14:49 |
| efried | #link http://status.openstack.org/reviews/#nova | 14:49 |
| efried | Count: 457 (+2); Top score: 2091 (-444 \o/) | 14:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review status page (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:49 | |
| efried | stephenfin: was that you? | 14:49 |
| stephenfin | stuck reviews? | 14:49 |
| stephenfin | Yeah, probably. I killed a lot of stuck | 14:49 |
| stephenfin | *stuff | 14:49 |
| efried | the review status score drop | 14:49 |
| efried | thanks for that | 14:49 |
| stephenfin | yup | 14:49 |
| stephenfin | np | 14:49 |
| efried | #topic Open discussion | 14:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:50 | |
| efried | One item on the agenda: | 14:50 |
| efried | #help Volunteer needed to update the contributor guide (see https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685630/ | 14:50 |
| stephenfin | I'll do it | 14:50 |
| stephenfin | I thought bauzas has something similar at one point | 14:51 |
| stephenfin | but I don't see conflicts so maybe not | 14:51 |
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| efried | takashin proposed the usual s/$old/$new/ patch, but it seemed like we would be better off leaving it known-stale considering how stale the surrounding content is. | 14:51 |
| efried | #action stephenfin to update the contributor guide | 14:51 |
| efried | thanks again stephenfin | 14:51 |
| stephenfin | In case you didn't refresh, I added something to that list too of open discussion too | 14:51 |
| efried | you're a champ | 14:51 |
| stephenfin | aww, shucks | 14:51 |
| efried | ah, thanks, no I hadn't refreshed | 14:51 |
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| efried | Specless BP approval | 14:52 |
| efried | #link nova-net diaf blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/remove-nova-network-ussuri | 14:52 |
| sean-k-mooney | yes? | 14:52 |
| dansmith | so, do we not need core sponsorship for something like that? | 14:52 |
| efried | stephenfin can sponsor self. | 14:52 |
| stephenfin | specless BP too | 14:52 |
| dansmith | well, what I mean is, does that count in the quota | 14:52 |
| stephenfin | I mean, I can submit a spec | 14:52 |
| efried | question is, if we approve the bp now, and then later decide it falls "below the line", do we get to unapprove it? | 14:52 |
| dansmith | stephenfin: I know, that's why I'm asking | 14:53 |
| stephenfin | but it'll just be this https://img.memecdn.com/delete-all-the-things_o_4994465.jpg | 14:53 |
| mriedem | we do'nt need a spec for that, it was approved before as specless, it's mostly mechanical work, | 14:53 |
| mriedem | i think it should count toward quota | 14:53 |
| mriedem | it will definitely be a time sink | 14:53 |
| dansmith | efried: right, because if I'm picking priority, I put that lower than some other things we might be planning inside a small envelope | 14:53 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yep, that's what I'm asking about | 14:53 |
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| sean-k-mooney | i think its still valuable to pay down that debt | 14:54 |
| mriedem | yeah i think it's still worth doing | 14:54 |
| mriedem | even with the new cap | 14:54 |
| dansmith | of course | 14:54 |
| efried | we also don't know what all is going to be on the table on Feb 13th | 14:54 |
| stephenfin | I'd like to see us doing tech debt work along with feature work | 14:54 |
| stephenfin | ...and it looks like I'm not alone. phew | 14:54 |
| efried | so I think we should approve it now | 14:54 |
| mriedem | i'm +1 on approval | 14:54 |
| artom | Which reminds me - that SRIOV live migration conversion to use resources claims that came up during NUMA LM review - what do we think, specles blueprint? | 14:55 |
| sean-k-mooney | i think you and i should proably scope it and then make that determination once we have | 14:55 |
| mriedem | how about we get the numa live migratoin functional test stack landed first.. | 14:55 |
| efried | (done, specless bp approval.) | 14:56 |
| artom | mriedem, well, yes, but we were talking about U tech debt :) | 14:56 |
| mriedem | i.e. finish what was started rather than starting new | 14:56 |
| sean-k-mooney | yes also i would like to land the periodic tempet job first too | 14:56 |
| mriedem | artom: and i'm saying don't even bring it up until the func tests are done | 14:56 |
| artom | mriedem, fair enough | 14:57 |
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| mriedem | remember we talked about backporting those to train, | 14:57 |
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| mriedem | the longer that stalls the harder that backport will be, | 14:57 |
| mriedem | especially with stephenfin on a func test rip up rampage for nova-net | 14:58 |
| stephenfin | rm -rf * | 14:58 |
| sean-k-mooney | i think we are aiming to finish the migration stuff before m1 | 14:58 |
| mriedem | let's end this god forsaken meeting | 14:58 |
| sean-k-mooney | e.g. the fucntioal test and temepest | 14:58 |
| efried | y, sounds like there's more discussion to be had, artom & sean-k-mooney continue in -nova? | 14:59 |
| mriedem | sean-k-mooney: money talks and all that | 14:59 |
| efried | Thanks all. | 14:59 |
| efried | o/ | 14:59 |
| efried | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
| sean-k-mooney | ok o/ | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 3 14:59:48 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-10-03-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-10-03-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-10-03-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
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| gagehugo | #startmeeting security | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 3 15:00:10 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 15:00 |
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| gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda agenda | 15:01 |
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| fungi | i guess i can give some vmt updates | 15:04 |
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| gagehugo | fungi: o/ | 15:04 |
| fungi | so, since volume of vulnerability reports has been fairly low, i've turned my focus to improving our support for projects on storyboard | 15:07 |
| gagehugo | ok | 15:09 |
| fungi | there's already a great feature in sb where you can create named teams of users, mark them as security teams, associate specific projects with them, and any time a task for one of those projects is added in a story marked as security-related that corresponding team will have access automatically added | 15:09 |
| fungi | the openstack vmt is currently represented on storyboard.openstack.org by a security team named "openstack-security" | 15:09 |
| fungi | and i've associated all official deliverables which are vulnerability:managed according to openstack governance as associated with it | 15:10 |
| fungi | so this means any security-related stories with tasks for those deliverables (if they're using storyboard for defect reporting) will automatically be visible to the members of the openstack vmt now | 15:11 |
| gagehugo | ah ok, cool | 15:11 |
| fungi | i also used my administrator privs on the server to temporarily insert access for my user into all existing private stories and audited them | 15:12 |
| fungi | most were for projects without vmt oversight so i did my best to find appropriate contacts for each of those and add access for them if the reporter hadn't already | 15:12 |
| fungi | i also left comments in them all noting this | 15:13 |
| * redrobot walks in late ... sits in the back | 15:13 | |
| fungi | the next thing we need is project-specific teams (like the .*-coresec teams in lp) so the vmt can more easily direct access for triaged security stories | 15:14 |
| fungi | and i want to make team definition/creation a self-service thing | 15:14 |
| fungi | so i've started a change with a proposed schema for managing this in git: | 15:14 |
| fungi | #link https://review.opendev.org/685778 Record vulnerability management teams used in SB | 15:15 |
| fungi | i'm getting started on the automation/api integration side of that now | 15:15 |
| fungi | the data in that current change is just a copy of what's currently set in sb | 15:16 |
| fungi | but once i get it integrated we can propose new changes to create those other teams directly and allow project leaders to propose updates to them when desired | 15:16 |
| fungi | that's probably all i've got for updates at a high level this week | 15:17 |
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| gagehugo | ok | 15:23 |
| gagehugo | redrobot: o/ | 15:23 |
| gagehugo | anything else? | 15:23 |
| redrobot | Nope. I'm good. :) | 15:24 |
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| gagehugo | thanks fungi redrobot! | 15:24 |
| gagehugo | #endmeeting | 15:24 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 3 15:24:55 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2019/security.2019-10-03-15.00.html | 15:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2019/security.2019-10-03-15.00.txt | 15:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2019/security.2019-10-03-15.00.log.html | 15:25 |
| fungi | thanks gagehugo! | 15:25 |
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