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mhen#startmeeting image_encryption13:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Aug 12 13:00:36 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mhen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
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mhen#topic Roll Call13:00
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rosmaitao/13:01
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rosmaitahmmm ... looks like a light turnout13:03
redrobot\o13:03
* mhen is substitute for Luzi this and next week13:04
mhenokay let's start13:05
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mhen#topic Barbican Consumer API Update13:05
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mhenanybody present who can comment on the progress of this?13:05
redrobotI think moguimar is out on PTO today13:06
redrobotHe's got a WIP patch up for review, let me find a link13:06
redrobot#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674302/13:06
redrobotHe should be picking it up again tomorrow when he returns to work.13:06
mhengood!13:07
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mhenanything else about the consumer API?13:09
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* efried waves late13:09
mhenefried, welcome :)13:09
redrobotThat's all I have for now.  I haven't started working on the client side of things, but it's on my to-do list13:10
mhenokay, good to hear ;)13:10
mhennext13:10
mhen#topic Image Encryption Specs13:10
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mhenjust as a heads-up, response time from our side will be slowed down over the next two weeks since Luzi is on vacation13:12
mhenany topics to discuss regarding the specs?13:13
efriedI'm afraid the nova spec didn't get a freeze exception13:14
efriedbut I would encourage you to continue working on it to get it in shape to be approved early in U.13:14
mhenyes but it was a reasonable decision I think13:15
efriedand that doesn't stop you working on the code as well.13:15
mhenright, we will continue to push the things forward :)13:15
mheniirc, there are currently some questions still to be answered regarding the scope of our changes in regards to which hypervisor and backends will be supported etc.13:16
mhenwe will work on better clarifying this in the specs13:17
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* mhen still needs to check all the specs again which questions are still unanswered13:18
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mhenanything else concerning the specs?13:19
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mhenokay then13:20
mhen#topic Open Discussion13:20
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mhenany other topic you'd like to discuss?13:21
rosmaitajust a reminder that the os-brick Train release is week of 2 September13:21
mhensince we are targeting early U now, is this deadline relevant in any way?13:22
rosmaitaguess not, though it would be good to have your brick work at a state where it will be useful for testing the other components13:23
rosmaitabut the other implication is that after 2 Sept, master of brick will be U13:25
mhenso our brick stuff would need to be merged first I guess?13:25
efriedis os-brick on an _independent release cycle?13:25
rosmaitaefried: no, it's a cycle with intermediaries, i think13:25
efriedconfirmed13:26
efriedWas going to say you could consider merging & releasing the os-brick function any time, assuming it's code paths that wouldn't get touched without the upcoming features.13:27
efriedmight still be able to do that13:27
rosmaitamhen: it's up to you when stuff merges and where; it's just that people will have to carry patched versions of stuff to work on other stuff ... can get complicated13:27
rosmaitai agree with efried that if the code changes are isolated, it's possible to do early releases from master13:28
efriedespecially with something as intertwined as this, trying to have a zillion Depends-On patches from a zillion different repositories is going to be complicated enough. Might as well simplify where you can.13:29
mhensounds reasonable :)13:29
mhenwe don't need a separate spec for the brick changes or do we?13:30
rosmaitai don't think so, the cinder team seemed OK with an update to the accepted spec13:30
efriedwho owns brick? cinder? It would be up to them13:30
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rosmaitaLuzi said the oslo library proposal could be adapted to say what the interface would look like13:31
rosmaitathat's really all that13:31
rosmaita's needed, just some idea of what thsi will look like for the people who currently consume os-brick13:31
rosmaitafrom what i can tell, the cinder team is in agreement that os-brick is appropriate place for this13:32
mhenI see, I vaguely remember Luzi mentioning there was some request from the cinder team to supply some further addition to the merged spec13:34
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rosmaitaYeah, the current spec says the encryption code would be in a library like os-brick; just need to update that it will definitely be brick and what the interface will look like13:35
mhenrosmaita, I see. Thanks for the clarification. I still need to catch up with all the parts :)13:37
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rosmaitanp, i guess my point is that you don't have to wait for U to start to get working on the os-brick stuff13:38
mhenokay thanks for pointing that out?13:41
mhenthat wasn't meant to be an '?' :)13:42
rosmaita:D13:42
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mhenokay anything else?13:42
mhenokay thanks for participating!13:44
mhenhave a nice week!13:45
mhen#endmeeting image_encryption13:45
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fungioh, sorry mhen, i meant to mention i had to miss this week (was driving a car during the meeting), but will catch up on the log. thanks for chairing!14:12
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mlavalle#startmeeting neutron_performance16:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Aug 12 16:00:38 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
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bcafarelo/16:02
mlavallehey16:03
mlavallevery hot summer in Paris, isn't it?16:03
bcafarelit is better now luckily :)16:04
bcafarelwe did have a day with 42.5C (aka hot hot hot)16:04
mlavallebut back in mid July you were hitting 40C, right? around Bastille Day16:05
bcafarelyes I had a good timing on my holidays :)16:05
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mlavalleare homes, offices, cars and trains prepared for that kind of heat?16:05
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bcafarelwell the offices were quite popular for a few days (and cars)16:06
mlavallehere is Austin, we hit 40+ most of July, all of August and 2 or 3 weeks in September. but our homes, offices and cars are prepared for it16:07
bcafarelbut houses and public transportation were not a good place to be for a few days16:07
bcafarelyeah south of France has more houses with AC, but around Paris it is still very rare16:07
bcafarelthat was not a productive day :'(16:08
mlavalleok, let's assume the others are not attending16:08
bcafarel:)16:08
bcafarelyeah it sounds like a middle-of-August attendance level16:08
mlavalleso let's have a quick one this week, in the spirit of the summer slowdown16:08
mlavalle#topic Updates16:09
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* bcafarel still catching up on previous meetings logs16:10
mlavallelast time I mentioned that the osprofiler output was dominated by traces for SQLAlchemy, which don't correlate very well with lines in the code16:10
mlavalleso I sent this message to the ML: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-July/008104.html16:10
mlavalleI didn't get any responses, so this morning I forwarded the message directly to akurilin's email address16:12
mlavallelet's see if we get a follow up from him16:12
mlavallein the mean time, given the lack of response, I decided to take an alternative path16:12
* haleyb wanders in late16:13
mlavalleI decided to instrument the the create_port and update_port code in the ML2 plugin with calls to cProfile16:14
bcafarelso to get detailed profiling just in the calls?16:16
mlavalleessentially I add profile = cProfile.Profile() and  profile.enable() at the start of those methods16:16
mlavalleand the profile.disable() and profile.dump_stats('/tmp/xxx') at the end of the methods, where xxx changes depending whether it is create port or update port16:17
mlavallewith this I get a couple of files that then I can analyze with pstats16:17
mlavalleI sort the profile by cpu cumtime and then print the top 10016:18
mlavallethis is whet I get:16:18
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mlavallefor create_port: http://paste.openstack.org/show/756173/16:18
mlavallefor update_port: http://paste.openstack.org/show/756174/16:19
mlavalleby the way, I call these two methods as part of a script that creates and binds a port16:19
mlavallesince this cycle has been the focus for our performance exercise16:20
mlavallein the case of the port create, you get a lot of sqllchemy stuff at the top16:21
mlavallebut notice that there are 3 methods from the ipam16:21
mlavalleif you add their cumtime together, they are close to the top consumers of cumulative cpu time16:22
mlavalleso it seems we need to dig deeper there16:22
mlavalleand by the way, they might be the culprits of the sqlalchemy code high utiliztion16:22
mlavallein the case of update_port16:24
mlavalleagain, we get a lot of sqlalchemy code at the top16:24
bcafarelI remember from some time ago a post by jd to transform cprofile data in call trees (could help here to show if they do trigger a lot of sqlalchemy calls)16:24
mlavallebcafarel: yeah, I'll get to tthat in a minute16:25
bcafarel:)16:25
mlavallegoing back to the update_port trace, we also see that we spend a lot of time notifying from the dvr scheduler and dhcp16:26
mlavallewhich is kind of surprising16:26
mlavalleso again, it seems we need to dig deeper then16:26
mlavallethen I came accross jd's blog post https://julien.danjou.info/guide-to-python-profiling-cprofile-concrete-case-carbonara/16:27
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* mlavalle ended up buying his book16:28
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mlavallehttps://scaling-python.com/16:28
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bcafarela worthy investment yes (and this was indeed the link I was thinking about)16:29
mlavalleso at this point I am generating call trees16:29
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mlavallebut it seems that it needs some massaging before being able to generate an actionable calls tree16:30
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mlavalleso my next step is to refine a bit the way I am gathering data with cProfile in the code16:30
mlavalleI am probably:16:30
mlavalle1) going to create a decorator to decorate the methods that we want to profile. This decorator is still going to dump the output in /tmp, but I am going to add a time stamp, so we can save output for several calls16:31
mlavalle2) with the above decorator, I am then going to run the the create and bind port scenario against my deployment, increasing the load gradually16:32
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mlavalle3) with this, I am going to correlate the rally reports with the cProfile / calls trees16:33
mlavalleand see if we can get with more precise data16:33
mlavallethe very neat thing about this, is that we can point very precisely in the code where the bottlenecks are16:34
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mlavalleso that's my update for today16:35
mlavalleany comments?16:35
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bcafarelnone, that looks promising16:36
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mlavallecool16:36
mlavalleanything else we should discuss today?16:36
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bcafarelnothing for me, I did not find much time to work on perf topics recently :/16:38
mlavalleok, cool16:38
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mlavalleI really got excited last night when I started seeing all this coming together16:38
mlavalleI think we are on the right path16:39
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mlavalleok16:41
mlavallelet's it a meeting16:41
mlavallecall it^^^16:41
bcafarel:)16:41
mlavallehave a nice week16:41
mlavallethanks for attending16:41
bcafarelsame, see you around!16:41
mlavalle#endmeeting16:41
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