Wednesday, 2019-06-12

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mlavalle#startmeeting neutron_l314:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jun 12 14:00:34 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3'14:00
haleybhi14:00
tidwellrhi14:00
liuyulonghi14:00
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wwriverrato/14:02
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mlavallegood morning everybody14:02
mlavallegoor early morning to you wwriverrat14:02
mlavallegood evening liuyulong14:02
mlavalle#topic Announcements14:03
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mlavalleReminding everybody that we are on our way to the Train-2 milestone the week of July 22 - 2614:04
mlavalle#link https://releases.openstack.org/train/schedule.html14:04
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mlavalleAlso remember that the Shanghai Call For Papers deadline is July 2nd14:06
mlavalleliuyulong and I are exploring partnering in a port forwarding talk14:06
mlavalleit's a feature we haven given enough exposure to14:06
mlavalleany other announcements?14:07
mlavalleok14:07
mlavalle#topic Bugs14:07
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mlavalleFirst of I have https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/182457114:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1824571 in neutron "l3agent can't create router if there are multiple external networks" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel)14:08
mlavalleI thought I had fixed this one a couple of weeks ago14:08
mlavallehowever it still, under certain conditions, throws the execption, although functionality is not affected14:09
mlavalleso I lowered the priority from critical and I'll fix it over the next couple of days14:09
mlavalleNext one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/183153414:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1831534 in neutron "[l3][dvr] with openflow security group east-west traffic between different vlan networks is broken" [High,In progress] - Assigned to yangjianfeng (yangjianfeng)14:10
liuyulongIt will be basically fixed in such way.14:10
mlavallewe have a proposed fix here: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/663008/14:11
mlavalleliuyulong: seems on the right path, right?14:11
haleybso i guess we should close https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1831706 as a duplicate of that?14:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1831706 in neutron "[DVR] Modify `in_port` field of packets which from remote qr-* port" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to yangjianfeng (yangjianfeng)14:12
liuyulongWe need some DVR and OVS experts.14:12
liuyulongYes, we can track the issue in one bug.14:12
mlavalleyes it seems so. in fact same person assigned to both14:12
mlavalleok, will take a look at the patch soon14:13
liuyulongI'm testing the current code, it works. But we need more carefully about this to avoid unexcepted aggression.14:13
mlavallewill you leave a note in the patch once your testing is done, liuyulong?14:14
liuyulongThe first version https://review.opendev.org/#/c/663008/4 can work with openflow security group.14:14
liuyulongBut when the openvswith agent disable the firewall, it will not.14:15
liuyulongSo current patch is mainly aim to this direction.14:15
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liuyulongmlavalle, Jianfeng is my colleague. : )14:16
mlavalleah cool14:16
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liuyulongI talked with Slawek last week14:17
liuyulongI wander if we can add some 'vlan' based tenant network test cases.14:17
liuyulongAt present, it seems unlikely that it is achievable.14:18
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mlavalleok14:19
mlavalleNext one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/177445914:19
openstackLaunchpad bug 1774459 in neutron "Update permanent ARP entries for allowed_address_pair IPs in DVR Routers" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan)14:19
mlavalleWe have a patch here: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/651905/14:19
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tidwellrthis looks to be in good shape, I was going to give it another pass before giving it my +1 again14:20
mlavalleyeah, I'll do the same unless haleyb wants to be over it, since he already +2ed it14:21
mlavallego over it ^^^^14:21
haleybi can look again14:21
mlavallecool, thanks14:21
mlavalleany other bugs we should disucss today?14:22
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mlavalleI take that as a no :-)14:23
mlavalle#topic Routed Networks14:23
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mlavalleThis is a very popular topic from this meeting's past that is making a roaring comeback thanks to wwriverrat14:24
wwriverratlol... roar like a kitten14:24
mlavalleas you all know, we have a spec in progress: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/65717014:24
mlavalleand a patch that mostly covers the linuxbridge implementation: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/623115/14:25
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mlavalleI spent time this past weekend looking at the code from the OVS perspective and it seems to me not much is needed from that perspective14:26
mlavalleso I am deploying it in a dev environment in my home office14:26
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mlavalleand will make sure everything works from OVS's perspective14:27
wwriverratthere *may* be more than the alembic migration for that.14:27
mlavalleI also had a chat with ralonsoh (who usually attends this meeting) and he will look at it from the sr-iov perspective14:27
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ralonsohmlavalle, I'm still reading the spec and the SRIOV code14:27
mlavalleagain, at first glance, not much change is needed if at all14:27
mlavalleralonsoh: thanks. no rush14:28
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wwriverratfor migration, I know we have some script link attached to the bug and maybe to to the review14:28
mlavalleso we will have this topic in this meeting until we merge this feature14:28
wwriverratI started this to get some ideas out onto a sharable location: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Neutron_Mult-segment_support14:29
mlavalleahhh, fantastic14:29
wwriverratas for dev I'm at a decision fork. would like some feedback14:29
wwriverratone fork may break everthing, the other will be softer but not quite right14:30
wwriverratCode in question: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/cbee0f9f88ff34f70ff19590471b5405e06ff2a9/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/agent/_agent_manager_base.py#L62-L6814:30
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mlavalleright, we are touching an RPC interface14:33
mlavalleI will leave a comment in the patch with my 2 cents soon14:33
mlavalle\and I encourage others to do the same14:34
wwriverratsomething in there definitely has to change in order to achieve the one->many (network->segments)14:34
mlavalleyes14:34
mlavalleI remind the team that we would like to merge this by Train-214:36
mlavalleanything else on this topic today?14:36
tidwellrone loosely related item14:37
tidwellrI've ressurected https://review.opendev.org/#/c/486450/ which would give us the ability to do floating IP's and other potentially interesting things on routed networks14:38
mlavallethanks for that14:38
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tidwellrwwriverrat: I'd especially love your feedback on this14:39
wwriverrat+114:39
mlavalleI will take a look at the revised version this week14:39
wwriverratI see klindgren has already given a +1 in the past too. I'll look deeper14:39
tidwellrI've re-worked it, so klindgren's +1 may or may not be valid anymore :)14:39
wwriverratsure. I'll poke him today to have him take another gander. me214:40
mlavalletidwellr, wwriverrat: are you guys planning to go to Shanghai? we could partner on a routed networks update presentation there14:41
wwriverratwould love to, but not holding my breath14:41
tidwellrnot sure yet if I'm going14:42
mlavalleafter these two changes, routed networks will be feature complete and that merits a Summit presentation14:42
wwriverratI'll start the sell to the travel budget folk14:42
mlavalleI'll put together a talk overview and send it to you for your feedback14:43
wwriverratawesome14:43
mlavalleok, moving on14:44
mlavalle#topic On demand agenda14:44
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mlavalleanything else to discuss today?14:44
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mlavalleok, thanks for attending14:45
mlavalleo/14:45
mlavalle#endmeeting14:45
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Jun 12 14:45:59 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)14:46
wwriverrat\o/14:46
ralonsohbye14:46
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tidwellrbye14:46
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amotokihaleyb: I left a comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1831726 I hope it answers the open questions.14:51
openstackLaunchpad bug 1831726 in neutron "neutron-cli port-update ipv6 fixed_ips Covering previous" [Undecided,Incomplete]14:51
amotokihaleyb: I am not sure we need more document on 'neutron' CLI as it is deprecated.14:51
amotokisorry, I used a wrong channel. I thought I was in #-neutron.....14:52
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jungleboyj#startmeeting Cinder16:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Jun 12 16:01:02 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder'16:01
whoami-rajatHi16:01
smcginniso/16:01
geguileohi! o/16:01
m5z_|mszwed|hi :)_16:01
walshh_hi16:01
xyanghi16:01
davidshaHey16:01
_erlon_hey16:01
jungleboyj@116:01
jungleboyj@!16:01
_pewp_jungleboyj ( ・ω・)ノ16:01
lsekio/16:02
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jungleboyjcourtesy ping:16:02
jungleboyjjungleboyj whoami-rajat rajinir lseki carloss pots woojay erlon geguileo eharney rosmaita enriquetaso e0ne smcginnis davidsha walshh_ xyang hemna _hemna eharney16:02
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enriquetasohi o/16:02
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eharneyhi16:02
woojayhi16:02
andrewar_hey, all16:03
e0nehi16:03
carlosshi16:03
jungleboyjHey everyone.16:03
jungleboyjHappy Wednesday.16:03
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jungleboyjLooks like we have a good crowd so lets get started.16:04
jungleboyj#topic announcements16:04
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jungleboyjJust the usual reminder to work on reviewing specs and new drivers as we start approaching Milestone-2.16:04
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jungleboyj#link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:train-drivers16:05
jungleboyjI need to take a quick look but think the RSD driver is more or less ready to go.16:05
jungleboyjI also have a number of patches to unsupport or remove drivers.16:06
jungleboyj#link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/cinder+branch:master+topic:train-driver-removal16:06
jungleboyj#link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/cinder+branch:master+topic:ci_unsupported16:06
jungleboyjPlease take a look when you have a chance.16:06
rajiniro/16:06
jungleboyjWould be good to get those through before more merge conflicts come up.16:07
jungleboyjAlso, a reminder about the CI requirement for python 3.716:07
jungleboyj#link https://releases.openstack.org/train/schedule.html#t-cinder-py37-ci-running16:07
jungleboyjWill start proposing removal patches for those not in compliance right after Milestone-2.16:08
jungleboyjThink that is all I have for reminders/announcements16:08
jungleboyj#topic Cherry Pick to stein: Fix shell upload-to-image with no volume type16:09
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jungleboyjHmmm, doesn't look like LiangFang is here16:09
jungleboyjThink that was just a review request.16:09
jungleboyjI put my vote on it.16:09
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jungleboyjAnyone have anything else there?16:09
hemnaI'll take a look at the rsd driver again16:10
jungleboyjhemna:  ++ Cool.  Thanks.16:10
jungleboyjNext ...16:10
jungleboyj#topic Shanghai PTG16:11
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jungleboyj#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-June/007079.html16:11
jungleboyjThat e-mail went out yesterday.16:11
jungleboyjSo, we get to endure another long summit/PTG.  It isn't clear, however, I think there is some overlap between summit and PTG.16:12
jungleboyjSo, maybe it is a day shorter.  Not sure.16:12
jungleboyjNot happy that they are talking about teams having to share rooms.  That never worked well in the past.16:12
jungleboyj*Sigh*16:12
smcginnisYeah, I think the middle day is split.16:12
e0neSummit: Nov 4-6, 201916:12
hemnaugh16:12
e0nePTG: November 5-8, 201916:12
e0ne:(16:12
hemnaanother weekend PTG ?!16:12
smcginnisOh, two day overlap.16:12
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Oh, that is better.16:13
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smcginnishemna: Looks like that's Mon-Fri16:13
hemnaok, I hadn't looked on the cal. yet.16:13
jungleboyjGiven that the last day or so of the Summit was less useful.16:13
jungleboyjSo, I am just trying to get a feel as to if we could have a productive PTG.16:14
jungleboyjWho thinks they have a chance of being in Shanghai?16:14
jungleboyjLenovo is planning to have me there.16:14
hemnaI'm less than 50/5016:14
hemnaprobably a no16:15
jungleboyjOk.16:15
whoami-rajatI think i will be there this time.16:15
jungleboyj:-(  And doing remote will be rough with time differences.16:15
jungleboyjwhoami-rajat:  That is good news!16:15
smcginnisI *think* I'l be there.16:15
hemnayah probably impossible to do remote16:15
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jungleboyjsmcginnis:  You better be.16:16
smcginnisI doubt we can stream using Hangouts.16:16
enriquetaso:(16:16
m5z_|mszwed|there is a small chance that I'll be there16:16
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Ok.  I am working on getting Zoom.16:17
_erlon_smcginnis: we can stream, I thing is who will be able to join :)16:17
jungleboyjI also have a VPN service that claims to work in China.16:17
_erlon_Ill probably be there too16:17
_erlon_ow, there's the firewall thing :/16:17
* jungleboyj is not looking forward to being behind the great firewall.16:17
hemnayah, pretty much makes networking to the outside world useless16:18
_erlon_is there someone in China that can tell us what work what does not?16:18
whoami-rajatsmcginnis: the issues faced while preparing for denver summit gave me a good lesson to be probable everytime :)16:18
hemnaI have NordVPN, they claim to work inside china16:18
jungleboyj_erlon_:  Yes, I have coworkers there.16:18
smcginnis_erlon_: Nothing Google or most social media. Unless you are on a mobile with a US sim card.16:19
davee__expressVPN and NordVPN work in China to outside world16:20
jungleboyjUgh, I guess PIA VPN is not longer guaranteed to work.16:20
smcginnisI've heard VPNs that work can suddenly stop if they add more restrictions.16:20
enriquetasothe big deal with stream, it's the sounds...16:20
smcginnisI suppose we can still record and just publish after getting back over the wall.16:21
whoami-rajatsmcginnis: but then remote attendees can't have doubts and discussions real time16:21
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Yeah, may have to do that.16:22
jungleboyjAnyway, the other problem is that it sounds like we are going to have quite limited attendance.16:22
jungleboyjThis is going to make it even more important to get people to the mid-cycle if possible.16:23
smcginnis++16:23
jungleboyjSo, two questions to the team.  Do we want to plan to have meetings at the PTG?16:24
jungleboyjIf so, for how long?16:24
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_erlon_Next APAC summit should be in South Corea, close to China, Japan and has internet :)16:24
jungleboyj:-)16:24
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jungleboyjI don't think we need to request more than 2 days based on recent experience.16:25
jungleboyjWe are usually done/burned out by the third day.16:26
whoami-rajatjungleboyj: also depends on the topics proposed?16:26
jungleboyjwhoami-rajat:  True.  Unfortunately we need to request space long before we will know that.  :-)16:26
whoami-rajatjungleboyj: oh.16:27
* jungleboyj is concerned by the silence from everyone else.16:27
jungleboyj🥌16:27
_erlon_jungleboyj: yeap, but considering the last summit, that we had a good attendance, and 2 days was enough. Considering less people, 2 days should definitelly be enough16:28
jungleboyj_erlon_:  ++16:28
davee__shhh, be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hunting cpmference attendees (in Elmer Fudd voice)16:28
jungleboyj🦖16:28
jungleboyjdavee__:  He he.16:28
jungleboyjOk, so what I am taking away from this is that people don't know if they are going to be in Shanghai.16:29
jungleboyjNo one is saying don't have a meeting.  So, I will request 2 days of PTG time.  If no one is going to show up I will cancel.16:29
whoami-rajatjungleboyj: ++16:30
e0nejungleboyj: +1. good plan16:30
_erlon_sounds good16:30
smcginnisI'm sure there will be folks there, just a question of whether there will be enough to be useful.16:30
jungleboyjI will again make a plea to joing the mid-cycle if at all possible given that that should be easier to attend than the Summit.16:31
davee__Hong Kong would have been SO Much easoer16:31
davee__easier16:31
andrewar_mid cycle is in NYC?16:32
jungleboyjmid-cycle is in Raleigh.  Let me get the link.16:32
jungleboyj#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-train-mid-cycle-planning16:32
andrewar_thnx16:33
jungleboyjOk.  That was all I had on the agenda.16:33
jungleboyj#topic open discussion16:33
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smcginnisThere is an Ops Meetup in NYC that might be useful for anywhere where that's a convenient location.16:34
jungleboyjWhen is that?16:35
andrewar_sept 3,416:35
smcginnisThanks, I didn't have that handly.16:36
smcginnis*handy16:36
andrewar_https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetup-2nd-201916:36
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davee__is there a link that shows all of the future meetings/sessions for all projects?  I am limited in how many I can attend in a year.16:36
smcginnisdavee__: The only official ones are the Summit/PTG events, with teams deciding on their own whether to have midcycles.16:36
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smcginnisIt used to be more regular before the PTG.16:37
jungleboyjYeah.  I am not sure if other groups are doing the mid-cycle.16:37
davee__thanks for the clarification16:37
jungleboyjThe Ops Meetups are semi-official too though.  Right?16:37
smcginnisYeah, but also organized independently by the Ops Meetup team.16:38
jungleboyjGothca.16:38
jungleboyj*Gotcha16:38
smcginnisGuess you just have to watch for announcements to figure out what's all happening.16:38
jungleboyjSo, any other topics for today?16:39
jungleboyjLots of silence.16:40
jungleboyjI am taking that as a no then?16:40
davee__OK, I'll bite: No16:41
jungleboyj:-)16:41
jungleboyjGlad to know IRC is still working.16:41
* eharney just submitted an initial spec on volume rekey if people want something to look at16:41
davee__good practice for being behind the Great Firewall16:41
jungleboyjeharney:  Cool.  Thanks.16:41
eharneywill post my starting-to-work code today too16:41
jungleboyj:-(16:41
smcginnisdavee__: Hah!16:41
jungleboyjOk.  So, I will give people 18 minutes back.16:42
jungleboyjThank you for joining the meeting and working on Cinder.16:42
jungleboyjTalk to you all next week.16:42
andrewar_++16:42
e0nesee you next week!16:42
jungleboyj#endmeeting16:43
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whoami-rajatThanks16:43
davidshathanks!16:43
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diablo_rojoThe storyboard meeting today has been cancelled, if you have any questions or things you want to chat about, please join us in #storyboard!18:42
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timburke#startmeeting swift21:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jun 12 21:00:21 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is timburke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)"21:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'swift'21:00
timburkewho's here for the swift meeting?21:00
kota_o/21:00
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alecuyero/21:00
timburkei know rledisez and mattoliverau won't be coming21:03
claygi'm here21:03
clayglot of good it'll do21:03
timburkeagenda's at21:03
timburke#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift21:03
timburke#topic Train cycle goals21:03
*** openstack changes topic to "Train cycle goals (Meeting topic: swift)"21:03
timburkethe TC finalized some goals for the cycle21:04
timburkethis is mostly just an FYI; there shouldn't be too much work we need to do for them21:04
timburke#link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/train/ipv6-support-and-testing.html21:05
timburkewe've already got an ipv6 dsvm job; i think it's just a matter of ensuring that it's compliant with what they're looking for21:05
zaitcevpy3 or bust21:05
timburke#link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/train/pdf-doc-generation.html21:05
claygpy3 ipv6 opendev is the future!21:05
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timburkeit sounds like the docs team has already done a lot of work to make it easy for us; should just be a matter of tweaking our docs job21:06
timburkeand finally21:06
timburke#link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/train/python3-updates.html21:07
timburkewhich explicitly says that someone else will be proposing the patches ;-)21:07
timburkethanks coreycb!21:07
timburkegood news there is that we already target py3721:07
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timburkewho has questions about the goals?21:08
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timburkewho can spare some time to make sure we're compliant with what the TC wants and push up some patches if we're lacking?21:10
claygwhoooooo.. @timburke throwing down the guantlet21:11
kota_is it hurry? anyway, I should go to look at the decision because of storlets...21:11
timburkeno big hurry, i think. i can track them for now21:12
timburkei just also know that there's a bunch of stuff we want to get done *for swift* and if we can get this squared away sooner, then i won't need to think about it any more :-)21:13
timburkenext up...21:13
timburke#topic Shanghai PTG21:13
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timburkediablo_rojo sent out http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-June/007079.html with a rough breakdown of the schedule21:14
timburkebasically, Monday - Tuesday for summit, Monday - Tuesday morning for forum, Tuesday afternoon - Friday for PTG21:15
kota_and the ptg page was up to date, https://www.openstack.org/ptg/21:15
timburkeproject onboarding is getting rolled into the PTG portion, which i think is a good move21:16
claygkota_: easier flight for you this go 'round?  Have you been to Shanghai before?21:16
kota_#link  https://www.openstack.org/ptg/21:16
timburke(i'm actually kinda excited about using the PTG as a kind of extended onboarding session)21:16
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timburkethanks, kota_21:17
kota_clayg: this is my first time to Shanghai but I believe it's easier than U.S. and EU21:17
timburkeit sounds like space is going to be tighter than at prior PTGs21:17
kota_#link https://app.eventxtra.link/registrations/6640a923-98d7-44c7-a623-1e2c9132b402?locale=en/?aff=Shanghaih21:18
kota_that is registration. I don't know what's VIP access tho21:18
diablo_rojo_phonI'm glad you're excited about that timburke :)21:18
diablo_rojo_phonI am too21:18
timburkeso i wanted to remind people of it so i could start trying to figure out what kind of head count we expect21:18
diablo_rojo_phonVIP includes a VIP party if I recall correctly? I guess that's a typical thing in China.21:19
timburkeif you already know you will or won't go, that's great! if not, please start thinking about that :-)21:19
kota_OIC. thnks diablo_rojo_phon21:20
timburkeagain, no particular deadline yet, but i wanted to put it out there sooner rather than later21:20
timburkedoes anyone know for sure one way or the other yet? i'll be going21:20
diablo_rojo_phonNo problem kota_ :)21:21
alecuyerWe'd like to make it with Romain, but I don't know that we have official approval yet. I'll see if we can get an answer before Romain is off for a few weeks :)21:21
timburkeagain, that's fine. good to know that you're hoping to go :-)21:22
timburkeall right, let's move on to updates21:23
timburke#topic storyboard migration21:23
*** openstack changes topic to "storyboard migration (Meeting topic: swift)"21:24
timburkelast week, i asked that you guys play around in the storyboard sandbox, form some opinions21:24
timburkehow'd that go?21:24
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zaitcevmy Firefox didn't like it21:25
zaitcevand then I forgot21:25
kota_i got a cert issue with the browser, is that expected?21:25
zaitcevafter raging on the social media for 10 seconds21:25
kota_mine is chrome.21:25
diablo_rojo_phonyeah we know the cert is not happy.21:26
diablo_rojo_phonIt's fine.21:26
kota_i see21:26
zaitcevYeah, it's a self-signed cert. They used to do it in 2001.21:26
diablo_rojo_phonIt's on our todo list21:26
zaitcevI thought in 2019 everyone would just use Let's Encrypt21:26
diablo_rojo_phonzaitcev: we'd love the help if that's a thing you could get going.21:27
diablo_rojo_phon;)21:27
clayg😍21:27
claygdiablo_rojo_phon: we're better at the raging on the socme than the helping ;)21:27
zaitcevword21:27
claygstill you know... it raises ~awareness~21:28
timburkewell, there's further feedback, i guess ... submit a story for it21:29
timburke#link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/list?status=active&project_group_id=5721:29
diablo_rojo_phonclayg: yes it's definitely easier to complain ;) I'm quite good at it myself.21:29
zaitcevLast time I had to use Let's Encrypt, I forgot that I must provide the fullchain in place of the cert, because they have an intermediary, apparently. Took me hours. The error was less than self-explanatory...21:29
timburke#topic py321:30
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timburkei saw zaitcev did some reviews last night, thanks!21:30
zaitcevthat's all I'm doing anymore, you're too good at coding21:30
zaitcevI started looking at this memcache thing and already there's 2 reviews to fix it21:30
timburkeyeah... sorry, i kept finding new and different ways it was broken21:31
zaitcevI want to get a full conversion and then package RPMs21:31
zaitcevthen functests21:31
timburkebut the good news is, i think we're about ready to land tempurl after all those memcached patches!21:32
timburkeat least, y'know, once https://review.opendev.org/#/c/664459/ lands to fix the gate21:33
zaitcevSo, we only have tempauth (might as well collapse the middleware dir in tox.ini), reconstructor, small things like locale, and then general issues like memcached.21:33
zaitcever, tempurl21:33
timburkezaitcev, it actually collapses all of common -- https://review.opendev.org/#/c/652928/6/tox.ini21:33
timburke:-)21:33
zaitcevI'll be mostly on PTO this week though.21:33
timburkeand reconstructor should be ready -- https://review.opendev.org/#/c/652819/ just has the lower-constraints failure21:34
timburkewho can take on test_locale?21:35
zaitcevI think we should make Train even if we find on-disk incompatibility. But we need to start testing and find it, if it exists.21:35
zaitcevI can, I'm sure.21:35
timburkeexcellent, thanks zaitcev!21:35
zaitcevok, gtg21:35
timburkethanks for coming21:36
timburkeso, i think we should be able to have unit tests ported by next week. i want to do a release as soon as i can after that21:36
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timburkein fact, i think i'll start working on authors/changelog while someone reviews reconstructor :-)21:37
timburke#topic lots of small files21:38
*** openstack changes topic to "lots of small files (Meeting topic: swift)"21:38
timburkealecuyer, how's it going?21:38
alecuyerI had to work on another project at OVH so not much news from me. I have started today to work on comments you made (thank you and kota for the reviews!)21:39
alecuyerand, before writing more tests, it should work with py3. I tried that and it doesn't work, one reason being that I can't get an "old enough" version of grpc (to work with eventlet)21:39
alecuyerso my goal next week is to have a patch to use HTTP instead. (I have one but it's not complete)21:40
kota_oic. that would be problem21:40
claygHTTP FTW!21:41
alecuyerYes it will work :)21:41
kota_and the gate for losf got an error at lower-constraint, you know timburke?21:41
timburke:-/ i don't quite like that py3 would become a blocker... but i know we were hoping to get it to use HTTP regardless21:41
timburkekota_, yeah, that sounds right :-(21:42
kota_not sure that patch to update the chriptography version would resolve tho.21:42
timburkeit's the cryptography problem. i'm trying to get it through the gate on master, then we'll propose a merge to losf21:42
alecuyeryou think I should move on with the tests and address py3 later ?21:42
timburkeoh. hmm...21:42
kota_timburke: ok. I'll keep to watch it. probably we want to port it feature/losf sooner as possible21:43
timburkealecuyer, i'm not sure. but i trust your judgment21:43
timburkewould we collectively be OK with having it be a py2-only feature at first?21:45
timburkei just don't want you to have to go down a rabbit hole when you could be doing more interesting/better things21:45
timburkekota_, fwiw all the lower-constraints failures i've seen on losf look just like the ones from master21:47
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kota_timburke: sounds good21:47
timburkewell, py2-only-ness is something for us to think about. it might also be that moving from gRPC to HTTP would be a good way to get one of us who hasn't been looking at losf much involved21:48
timburkealecuyer, thanks for the update!21:49
timburke#topic open discussion21:49
*** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: swift)"21:49
timburkewho has something else to bring up?21:49
timburkeall right, i think that'll do then21:52
timburkethank you all for coming, and thank you for working on swift!21:52
timburke#endmeeting21:52
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