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| melwitt | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 3 21:00:33 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is melwitt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 21:00 |
| melwitt | welcome everyone, happy new year | 21:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 21:00 |
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| melwitt | #topic https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-stein-blueprint-spec-freeze | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-stein-blueprint-spec-freeze (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:01 | |
| efried | o/ | 21:01 |
| melwitt | #undo | 21:01 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-stein-blueprint-spec-freeze | 21:01 |
| * melwitt sighs | 21:01 | |
| melwitt | #topic Release News | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release News (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:01 | |
| melwitt | #link Stein release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Stein_Release_Schedule | 21:01 |
| melwitt | s-2 spec freeze is next week Jan 10 | 21:02 |
| melwitt | we're tracking specs to focus review on in the last stretch on an etherpad | 21:02 |
| melwitt | #link spec freeze tracking pad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-stein-blueprint-spec-freeze | 21:02 |
| melwitt | we've collected a list of specs that are close to approval or are small/simple | 21:03 |
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| melwitt | please take a look at the list and add comments if you know of other specs that are close that are not yet on the list | 21:04 |
| melwitt | #link Stein runway etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-runways-stein | 21:04 |
| melwitt | note: I haven't updated runways yet since returning from break | 21:04 |
| melwitt | #link runway #1: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/bandwidth-resource-provider (gibi) (current patch series below supports server create, delete and re-schedule cases and reject some intentionally unsupported cases) [END 2018-12-24] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/625941 | 21:04 |
| patchbot | patch 625941 - nova - Create RequestGroup from neutron port - 3 patch sets | 21:04 |
| melwitt | #link runway #2: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/local-disk-serial-numbers (mdbooth) [END 2019-01-10] (extra week because of holiday week) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530786 | 21:05 |
| patchbot | patch 530786 - nova - Expose volume host type and path independent of li... - 10 patch sets | 21:05 |
| mriedem | the first runway is overdue, | 21:05 |
| mriedem | discussion in the ML | 21:05 |
| mriedem | 3rd slot is open for the configurable vol attachment bp of yours | 21:05 |
| mriedem | and likely could put Kevin_Zheng's per-cell metadata API in there too, it's a single hcange | 21:06 |
| mriedem | *change | 21:06 |
| mriedem | the down cell API change is languishing | 21:06 |
| mriedem | so while that's in the queue, it's not really ready for a runway slot | 21:06 |
| melwitt | ok, I see the note there now. ok, I'll update runways after the meeting. thanks | 21:06 |
| melwitt | I think that's all I have for release news. does anyone have anything to add or any questions? | 21:07 |
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| melwitt | ok | 21:08 |
| melwitt | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 21:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:08 | |
| melwitt | no Critical bugs | 21:08 |
| melwitt | #link 61 new untriaged bugs (up 3 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 21:08 |
| melwitt | thanks mriedem for doing triage | 21:09 |
| melwitt | #link 13 untagged untriaged bugs (up 3 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW | 21:09 |
| melwitt | as usual, please help out with triage if you can | 21:09 |
| melwitt | #link bug triage how-to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tags | 21:09 |
| melwitt | Gate status | 21:10 |
| melwitt | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 21:10 |
| melwitt | I'm not sure how the gate's doing of late but I've noticed rechecks in my gerrit notifications | 21:10 |
| mriedem | the nova-lvm job is broken but i'm working on a fix, | 21:11 |
| mriedem | otherwise there isn't a good sample the last 2 weeks to know if there are any major problems | 21:11 |
| * melwitt nods | 21:12 | |
| melwitt | 3rd party CI | 21:12 |
| melwitt | #link 3rd party CI status http://ciwatch.mmedvede.net/project?project=nova&time=7+days | 21:12 |
| sean-k-mooney1 | on that note im working on a replacement for the nfv ci | 21:12 |
| melwitt | looks like xenserver CI is doing bad | 21:13 |
| sean-k-mooney1 | i hope to have someting running in the next week or two | 21:13 |
| melwitt | sean-k-mooney1: ah, cool. that's good to hear | 21:13 |
| melwitt | thanks | 21:13 |
| melwitt | PCI CI looks ~50% fail | 21:13 |
| melwitt | vmware CI also failing it appears | 21:14 |
| melwitt | anything else on bugs or CI before we move on? | 21:15 |
| cdent | some problem with firewall interactions | 21:15 |
| cdent | "is being worked on" | 21:15 |
| melwitt | ok, that's good to know. thanks | 21:15 |
| melwitt | #topic Reminders | 21:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:16 | |
| melwitt | #link Stein Subteam Patches n Bugs: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-nova-subteam-tracking | 21:16 |
| melwitt | I put a trivial bugs section at the top of this etherpad awhile back ^ fyi if anyone has +1ed any trivial bugs and can put them in the list | 21:17 |
| melwitt | I had one but it's gone, so I need to check on that | 21:17 |
| melwitt | #link Spec freeze/non-priority blueprint freeze is s-2 January 10, 2019 | 21:17 |
| melwitt | that's all I have for reminders, anyone else have anything for reminders? | 21:18 |
| melwitt | #topic Stable branch status | 21:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:18 | |
| melwitt | #link stable/rocky: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/rocky,n,z | 21:18 |
| melwitt | #link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/queens,n,z | 21:19 |
| melwitt | #link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z | 21:19 |
| melwitt | we did a release of rocky, queens, and pike just before the holiday break | 21:19 |
| melwitt | but there's still more to review, so please feel free to review some more :) I'm going to go through some | 21:20 |
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| melwitt | anything else for stable branches before we move on to subteams? | 21:20 |
| melwitt | #topic Subteam Highlights | 21:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Subteam Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:20 | |
| melwitt | efried: anything to highlight for scheduler? | 21:20 |
| cdent | efried was gone for most of december | 21:21 |
| mriedem | planning an "aggressive checkpoint" meeting to discuss extracted placement the week of jan 14 | 21:21 |
| cdent | main thing I'd highlight is what mriedem just said | 21:21 |
| efried | yeah, I don't have anything. Gonna miss next week's sched mtg too. Hopefully back in the swing after that. | 21:22 |
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| melwitt | right, cool. thanks | 21:22 |
| cdent | I'll be writing a big catch up placement update tomorrow which will try to get everything back into view | 21:22 |
| melwitt | ok, nice | 21:23 |
| melwitt | ok, moving on to stuck reviews | 21:23 |
| melwitt | #topic Stuck Reviews | 21:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:23 | |
| melwitt | we actually have one this week | 21:23 |
| melwitt | per-instance live migration timeout/action http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2018-December/001112.html | 21:24 |
| mriedem | that might be old | 21:24 |
| mriedem | but yeah | 21:24 |
| mriedem | i've pung dan but would like other feedback given the deadline | 21:24 |
| melwitt | ok. I'll take a look at it and if anyone else can read the thread and weigh in on the review, it would be helpful | 21:25 |
| mriedem | also, | 21:25 |
| mriedem | not really stuck, | 21:25 |
| mriedem | but there is an open question on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/612531/ - the per instance serial number spec, | 21:25 |
| patchbot | patch 612531 - nova-specs - Per-instance serial number (spec) - 1 patch set | 21:25 |
| mriedem | i think i've summarized at the bottom | 21:26 |
| mriedem | tl;dr should we add a config option choice in addition to the image/flavor meta | 21:26 |
| mriedem | gibi's bw provider stuff is kind of stuck too... | 21:27 |
| mriedem | details in the ML thread | 21:27 |
| mriedem | the big question on that one is about discoverability | 21:27 |
| mriedem | since he doesn't have a microversion proposed in his series | 21:27 |
| melwitt | oh, interesting. I hadn't caught up to the latest on the thread yet | 21:28 |
| mriedem | i don't know how others feel about a microversion for that feature | 21:28 |
| sean-k-mooney1 | mriedem: it strictly is not changing an nova api correct | 21:28 |
| mriedem | it's a behavior change | 21:28 |
| melwitt | I would have thought we'd have a microversion that means "new ability now available" | 21:28 |
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| melwitt | otherwise how would you know when you can start doing it | 21:28 |
| mriedem | it's a question of, does this cloud honor ports with qos on them | 21:28 |
| sean-k-mooney1 | yes have wew had micro version bumps for pure behavioral change in the past. i think it would be fine but im not sure what we have done before | 21:29 |
| cfriesen | if we specify an old microversion would we turn off the new behaviour? | 21:29 |
| mriedem | we did a microversion for volume multiattach which was more or less a behavior change | 21:29 |
| mriedem | before^ you could attach a multiattach volume to exactly one server | 21:29 |
| mriedem | but w/o a microversion, how would you know when you can try to attach it to multiple servers? | 21:30 |
| sean-k-mooney1 | in that case it think it woudl be resonable to have micro version which leave teh question of have hapens if you use an old microvirion | 21:30 |
| mriedem | cfriesen: well one way to do that is if it's an old microversion and the port has resource requests, you fail | 21:30 |
| mriedem | ^ is what we do for multiattach volumes | 21:31 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py#L4067 | 21:31 |
| cfriesen | what would happen now if you have resource requests? | 21:31 |
| cfriesen | because I'm thinking the "old microversion" case should behave like it would now | 21:32 |
| sean-k-mooney1 | ya that makes sense since we dont support this when the qos policy is applied to the network currently. | 21:32 |
| sean-k-mooney1 | cfriesen: well before this change set nova would have had no code to read teh resouce requestr so it would have been ignored | 21:32 |
| mriedem | right today those kinds of ports are just ignored | 21:33 |
| mriedem | so is my qos not being honored because nova is old? or something failed? or i screwed up? | 21:33 |
| mriedem | it's a confusing ux | 21:33 |
| cfriesen | agreed, so does it make more sense to fix up the ux or to preserve current behaviour? | 21:34 |
| cfriesen | with the current microversion on new code I mean | 21:34 |
| sean-k-mooney1 | mriedem: well neutron will still enforce it as best it can nova will just not make the allocation in placement to prevent the oversubsription. i think people are generally infavor of a micro version however | 21:34 |
| melwitt | yeah, it seems like not using a microversion and rejecting resource requests when older microversion specified would make things needlessly random from a user perspective. i.e. just ignoring resource requests if microversion < required | 21:35 |
| mriedem | i've asked the questoin in the ML so thoughts there are probably better than here given the number of people not here | 21:35 |
| melwitt | yeah, good point. let's get on the thread | 21:35 |
| melwitt | ok, so we have the live migration review to weigh in on, the per instance serial number spec, and the bandwidth aware scheduling thread | 21:36 |
| melwitt | anything else before we move on to open discussion? | 21:37 |
| melwitt | #topic Open discussion | 21:37 |
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| melwitt | some spec review requests in here | 21:37 |
| melwitt | persistent-memory specs review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/601596/ Review revealed two resource tracking approaches. Need further discussion on community preference. | 21:37 |
| patchbot | patch 601596 - nova-specs - support virtual persistent memory - 6 patch sets | 21:37 |
| melwitt | I'm seeing active review today on that one | 21:38 |
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| melwitt | cpu-model-selection spec review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/620959 | 21:38 |
| patchbot | patch 620959 - nova-specs - Select cpu model from a list of cpu models (MERGED) - 9 patch sets | 21:38 |
| melwitt | oh, maybe these are old | 21:38 |
| mriedem | those are also old | 21:38 |
| mriedem | yeah | 21:38 |
| melwitt | ok, well last one since I already linked those | 21:39 |
| melwitt | flavor-extra-spec-image-property-validation spec review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/618542/ | 21:39 |
| patchbot | patch 618542 - nova-specs - Flavor Extra Spec and Image Properties Validation - 6 patch sets | 21:39 |
| melwitt | that one has one +2 already | 21:39 |
| melwitt | that's all we have on the agenda | 21:40 |
| mriedem | i forgot to mention during stuck/stable, | 21:40 |
| mriedem | but other stable cores should probably be aware of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/625880/ as well | 21:40 |
| patchbot | patch 625880 - nova (stable/rocky) - Fail to live migration if instance has a NUMA topo... - 1 patch set | 21:40 |
| mriedem | it's stephenfin's change to disallow numa-aware live migration by default | 21:40 |
| melwitt | yeah, I saw that one | 21:40 |
| mriedem | since that's a behavior change, it's controversial for stable, | 21:40 |
| mriedem | but tends to be a 'don't break by default' kind of fix | 21:41 |
| mriedem | like a cve | 21:41 |
| mriedem | tonyb had a nice summary | 21:41 |
| mriedem | dansmith: ^ | 21:41 |
| melwitt | aye | 21:41 |
| mriedem | sounds like it's on me to approve, but wanted to get other people looking | 21:41 |
| melwitt | ok, I'll add my review to it. but I'm thinking it's ok based on what tonyb explained | 21:43 |
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| melwitt | anyone have anything else for open discussion before we wrap up? | 21:44 |
| melwitt | ok, thanks everyone | 21:44 |
| melwitt | #endmeeting | 21:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 3 21:44:33 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-01-03-21.00.html | 21:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-01-03-21.00.txt | 21:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-01-03-21.00.log.html | 21:44 |
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