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| diablo_rojo | #startmeeting fc_sig | 07:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 29 07:00:50 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is diablo_rojo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: fc_sig)" | 07:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fc_sig' | 07:00 |
| diablo_rojo | Hello gmann, mattoliverau, cmurphy :) | 07:01 |
| mattoliverau | o/ | 07:01 |
| diablo_rojo | How was your weekend? | 07:01 |
| * diablo_rojo makes small talk while waiting for others to show | 07:01 | |
| mattoliverau | ahh, good | 07:02 |
| diablo_rojo | All ready for baby #2? | 07:02 |
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| mattoliverau | Could have the baby any day now, so good but just always making sure everything is ready. | 07:03 |
| diablo_rojo | Exciting :) | 07:03 |
| mattoliverau | got some new furniture delviered, so build that (ikea!) | 07:03 |
| diablo_rojo | Gotta love Ikea | 07:03 |
| mattoliverau | and now have to find time to finish some painting | 07:03 |
| mattoliverau | trying to do things because as soon as baby comes everything will be on hold for quite a while /me thinks | 07:04 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah that makes sense. | 07:04 |
| mattoliverau | also the wife is in nesting stage so everything has to be ready and just right or she can't relax | 07:04 |
| diablo_rojo | Hormones are funny. | 07:04 |
| diablo_rojo | Methinks its just going to be the two of us this week.. | 07:05 |
| mattoliverau | lol, yeah. The wife knows it just the hormones so we do laugh about it | 07:05 |
| mattoliverau | everyone else might have forgotten | 07:05 |
| mattoliverau | was gmann still visiting india? | 07:05 |
| diablo_rojo | I know cmurphy|vacation is in Greece from what I have seen on her instragram. I think tonyb said he had a meeting when we discussed the neww time/rotation last week. | 07:05 |
| mattoliverau | or should he be back | 07:06 |
| diablo_rojo | Not sure when he was supposed to be back. | 07:06 |
| mattoliverau | well, lets just get going then :) | 07:06 |
| diablo_rojo | W can quickly go through things and call it early. | 07:06 |
| mattoliverau | yup | 07:06 |
| diablo_rojo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/First_Contact_SIG#Meeting_Agenda | 07:06 |
| diablo_rojo | #topic New Contributor patches | 07:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "New Contributor patches (Meeting topic: fc_sig)" | 07:06 | |
| diablo_rojo | I actually looked at a few | 07:07 |
| diablo_rojo | and poked some people about some | 07:07 |
| mattoliverau | nice! | 07:07 |
| diablo_rojo | Nothing really new to report. There were a few new contributors I noticed that I linked to further down in the Agenda that we should probably reach out to. | 07:07 |
| mattoliverau | I was going to say I've been meaning to look at them today, like I always seem to do (last minute) however time got away from me today :( | 07:07 |
| diablo_rojo | Seems they are fixing spelling things all over the place. | 07:08 |
| mattoliverau | cool cool | 07:08 |
| diablo_rojo | Might want to reach out and help them settle in somewhere. | 07:08 |
| mattoliverau | good idea, I've seen a bunch from inspur lately, that's awesome | 07:08 |
| diablo_rojo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/592228/ Person to reach out to | 07:09 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah that is awesome. | 07:09 |
| diablo_rojo | Seen a few other new names here and there. | 07:09 |
| diablo_rojo | There was one girl on the dev list Ivoline? | 07:09 |
| diablo_rojo | She and I emailed back and forth a bit. | 07:09 |
| diablo_rojo | She's interested in Sahara. | 07:09 |
| mattoliverau | I remember reading that, thanks to responding back to her | 07:10 |
| diablo_rojo | The patch I linked was from an Inspur guy | 07:10 |
| diablo_rojo | Did you wanna reach out to them? | 07:10 |
| * tonyb foudn a new contributor for stable branches but I think the fire has gone out on that review :( | 07:10 | |
| tonyb | sorry I'm late :( | 07:10 |
| diablo_rojo | Oh hello tonyb :) | 07:10 |
| mattoliverau | hey tonyb o/ | 07:10 |
| diablo_rojo | No worries. | 07:10 |
| diablo_rojo | Perhaps I should have talked about t-shirts to make you show up faster ;) | 07:11 |
| * tonyb wasn't waiting in the wrong channel ... nope that was some other tonyb | 07:11 | |
| mattoliverau | yeah, I'll reach out to them. I think I've seen some inspur patches in swift too | 07:11 |
| mattoliverau | lol | 07:11 |
| diablo_rojo | mattoliverau, I imagine its the same type of patch that they are doing all over the place. | 07:11 |
| mattoliverau | yeah, /me thinks so to. But if there looking and going to effort of submitting patches lets try and focus them :) | 07:12 |
| diablo_rojo | My thoughts exactly. | 07:12 |
| diablo_rojo | #action mattoliverau will reach out to some of the newer inspur contributors | 07:13 |
| diablo_rojo | Its on the record now. | 07:13 |
| mattoliverau | damn^w awesome :P | 07:13 |
| tonyb | :D | 07:13 |
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| diablo_rojo | Okay onto the next topic? | 07:14 |
| mattoliverau | I don't have anything else, shall me move on? | 07:14 |
| mattoliverau | yes | 07:14 |
| diablo_rojo | #topic Ask.o.o | 07:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ask.o.o (Meeting topic: fc_sig)" | 07:14 | |
| diablo_rojo | I did not do this part of the homework.. | 07:15 |
| mattoliverau | Last week I linked up more of the tags to search links | 07:15 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah it looks like there are a few new tags | 07:15 |
| diablo_rojo | I will try to get to those tomorrow | 07:15 |
| mattoliverau | unfortuanly ask.o.o when adding tags according to something I read (I forget where) always uses AND to join them instead of OR. so lots of links rather then 1 | 07:16 |
| diablo_rojo | There was a conversation a while back with jamesmcarthur about adding some other to our list, but never heard back from him on that. | 07:16 |
| diablo_rojo | Thats super annoying | 07:16 |
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| diablo_rojo | This works though. | 07:16 |
| mattoliverau | Lol, I just clicked on a link and can seem to access ask.o.o atm. | 07:17 |
| diablo_rojo | Somewhere I made an etherpad to populate ask.o.o but I don't have it on the agenda for some reason | 07:17 |
| mattoliverau | I didn't do my homework this week, but did check last wednesday and at that time there was nothing new to report | 07:17 |
| diablo_rojo | As we've learned, not much changes week to week. | 07:18 |
| diablo_rojo | I found it! | 07:18 |
| diablo_rojo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ask.o.o-contribution Etherpad for seeding Ask.o.o | 07:18 |
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| mattoliverau | sure, but if we don't check it one week.. .thats when something happens :P | 07:18 |
| diablo_rojo | Also true | 07:19 |
| mattoliverau | nice, full of seeds :P | 07:19 |
| diablo_rojo | Currently empty but, I made the etherpad. . | 07:20 |
| diablo_rojo | One step in the right direction. | 07:20 |
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| mattoliverau | +1 | 07:20 |
| diablo_rojo | I should just go through and ask a question for each section of the contributor guide. | 07:20 |
| diablo_rojo | Maybe if I get bored tomorrow/thursday I will throw some things in there. | 07:20 |
| diablo_rojo | Anything else on this topic? | 07:20 |
| mattoliverau | bit a bad idea :) | 07:20 |
| mattoliverau | *not | 07:21 |
| mattoliverau | nope | 07:21 |
| tonyb | not from me | 07:21 |
| diablo_rojo | Okay moving on then. | 07:21 |
| diablo_rojo | #topic PTG Planning | 07:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG Planning (Meeting topic: fc_sig)" | 07:21 | |
| diablo_rojo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/FC_SIG_ptg_stein Planning Etherpad | 07:21 |
| mattoliverau | I added some stuff | 07:22 |
| diablo_rojo | Neither of you will be there :( | 07:22 |
| tonyb | :( | 07:22 |
| mattoliverau | :( | 07:22 |
| diablo_rojo | I see that. Thank you mattoliverau :) | 07:22 |
| mattoliverau | but I added stuff for you all to talk about, your welcome :P | 07:22 |
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| diablo_rojo | Thinking it might just be a half day this go around instead of a whole day. | 07:23 |
| diablo_rojo | We'll see what other things get added. | 07:23 |
| mattoliverau | The ops summit is at the same time and same place, so might be a good time to try and connect with them | 07:23 |
| mattoliverau | sure | 07:23 |
| diablo_rojo | mattoliverau, yeah I wanna try to drop into their room | 07:23 |
| diablo_rojo | Maybe even invade their agenda for a few minutes with mention of us/contributor guide/portal | 07:24 |
| mattoliverau | it might be better trying to sit in and hallway track to catch any new contributors walking around | 07:24 |
| diablo_rojo | I'll have to see if I can find their etherpad | 07:24 |
| mattoliverau | I mean the general PTG sessions | 07:24 |
| mattoliverau | so 1/2 day for FC SIG is fine and then hallway track talking to people, especally first/new people to the PTG | 07:25 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah I have a few other things I have to do during some of that but to fill in the rest of the time. | 07:25 |
| tonyb | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetup-ptg-denver-2018 ? | 07:25 |
| mattoliverau | yeah, your alwasy really busy. Sorry I wont be there | 07:25 |
| diablo_rojo | ooOOOoo thank you tonyb :) | 07:26 |
| diablo_rojo | That's the one I think I need. | 07:26 |
| diablo_rojo | mattoliverau, never bored that's for sure :) | 07:26 |
| tonyb | it hits all the buzz words | 07:26 |
| mattoliverau | lol, | 07:26 |
| tonyb | diablo_rojo: "17:20 < diablo_rojo> Maybe if I get bored" ... so that means never to that thing then ;P | 07:27 |
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| mattoliverau | :P | 07:27 |
| diablo_rojo | tonyb, Bored at events vs bored with sending emails (aka 75% of may days lately) | 07:28 |
| tonyb | diablo_rojo: fair enough /me will be nice now ;P | 07:28 |
| diablo_rojo | Anywho, if either of you come up with more topics we should talk about please add them. | 07:29 |
| tonyb | will do | 07:29 |
| diablo_rojo | tonyb, I suppose we're even for my swag shirt comment earlier :) | 07:29 |
| mattoliverau | kk | 07:29 |
| * diablo_rojo holds better quips for later | 07:29 | |
| diablo_rojo | #topic Berlin Planning | 07:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Berlin Planning (Meeting topic: fc_sig)" | 07:29 | |
| diablo_rojo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/FC_SIG_BER_Planning Berlin Planning Etherpad | 07:30 |
| mattoliverau | I made an etherpad for this, but really it may depend on what is talked about and how the PTG goes. maybe some follow ups | 07:30 |
| mattoliverau | but good to have it there for topics | 07:30 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah I dunno how many original topics we will have for forum sessions persay. | 07:30 |
| diablo_rojo | Following up on the Organisations contributing to OpenStack one maybe | 07:31 |
| diablo_rojo | Outside of that...not sure what else we have other than making people aware that we are a thing. Maybe just a meet & greet hang out. Come find us and ask questions. | 07:31 |
| mattoliverau | yeah, proabably, time will tell | 07:31 |
| mattoliverau | oh meet and greet (and drink?) might be fun | 07:32 |
| tonyb | Yeah I'm not sure we have any new topics fro the forum but a meet and greet could work | 07:32 |
| diablo_rojo | I dunno. PTG is the focus ATM, forum session proposals won't open till the PTG. So we have some time to stew on them. | 07:32 |
| diablo_rojo | I think that would be good. Similar to the Project Onboarding rooms, but for people that don't even know what project they want to get in on. | 07:33 |
| mattoliverau | +1 | 07:33 |
| tonyb | +1 | 07:33 |
| tonyb | if that were a thing I'd be there | 07:33 |
| diablo_rojo | Worse comes to worse, we just play Coup or Loveletter or Nuts or something :) | 07:34 |
| diablo_rojo | Anything else on Berlin planning? | 07:34 |
| mattoliverau | +100 | 07:34 |
| mattoliverau | not at this time | 07:34 |
| tonyb | :) | 07:34 |
| diablo_rojo | Okay last topic then. | 07:35 |
| diablo_rojo | #topic Reqs for Organisations Contributing to OpenStack | 07:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reqs for Organisations Contributing to OpenStack (Meeting topic: fc_sig)" | 07:35 | |
| mattoliverau | Last week a pushed up a new patchset | 07:35 |
| diablo_rojo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578676/ Patch | 07:35 |
| mattoliverau | diablo_rojo: thanks for the review | 07:35 |
| diablo_rojo | mattoliverau, I saw :) I think I had 4ish small comments | 07:35 |
| diablo_rojo | nothing really worth -1ing for | 07:36 |
| diablo_rojo | Zuul was upset about pep8 though | 07:36 |
| mattoliverau | well we really need to work on padding it out. | 07:36 |
| diablo_rojo | I think we should bring it to the TC's attention if we want more ideas/comments | 07:36 |
| mattoliverau | I forgot to go ask persia if what I remember him offering as the truth, I'll do that this week for sure :) | 07:36 |
| tonyb | ;P | 07:37 |
| mattoliverau | yeah getting good wordsmiths involved would be good. | 07:37 |
| mattoliverau | TC would be great | 07:37 |
| diablo_rojo | I think he was added as a reviewer | 07:37 |
| diablo_rojo | But yeah reaching out directly might work better | 07:37 |
| diablo_rojo | Well there are TC office hours in 5 hours if someone wants to be there for that. | 07:38 |
| diablo_rojo | Otherwise I can try to remember to bring it up next tuesday | 07:38 |
| diablo_rojo | Or we just email their ML | 07:38 |
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| diablo_rojo | So many options | 07:39 |
| mattoliverau | If my brain is still working at that time and I remember I'll pop in. | 07:39 |
| mattoliverau | but don't hold your breath :P | 07:39 |
| tonyb | just email os-dev the tc list isn't very helpful 'cause of moderation | 07:39 |
| tonyb | the next office hours would be good as the late tueady one isn't very popular ;/ | 07:39 |
| diablo_rojo | mattoliverau, I won't hold my breath as I will be sleeping ;) | 07:39 |
| tonyb | but Ican bring it up there if you like | 07:40 |
| diablo_rojo | tonyb, which place? ML or office hours? | 07:40 |
| diablo_rojo | Or both? :) | 07:41 |
| tonyb | diablo_rojo: the office hours, late Tueady next week as that's in the middle of my day | 07:41 |
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| diablo_rojo | tonyb, Got it. Yeah that would be great :) | 07:41 |
| tonyb | diablo_rojo: cool | 07:42 |
| diablo_rojo | I can probably send the email in the next day or so. That way they are prepped. | 07:42 |
| tonyb | it's like a plan or somesuch | 07:43 |
| diablo_rojo | #action tonyb to bring up mattoliverau's patch with the TC during office hours next week | 07:43 |
| diablo_rojo | #action diablo_rojo to send an email about mattoliverau's patch to the dev list calling for attention | 07:43 |
| mattoliverau | tonyb: thanks, and haha you'be been actioned :P | 07:43 |
| diablo_rojo | Now we all have action items. | 07:43 |
| * tonyb is in trouble now! | 07:43 | |
| mattoliverau | \o/ | 07:43 |
| diablo_rojo | mattoliverau, I can make another for you to ping persia ;) | 07:43 |
| mattoliverau | nah, I'll remember :P | 07:44 |
| * diablo_rojo waves '#action' command around threateningly | 07:44 | |
| diablo_rojo | I think that does it for topics then | 07:44 |
| diablo_rojo | #topic Open Discussion | 07:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: fc_sig)" | 07:44 | |
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| diablo_rojo | Anything else on anything else? | 07:45 |
| tonyb | not from me | 07:45 |
| mattoliverau | me either | 07:45 |
| diablo_rojo | Coolio. | 07:46 |
| diablo_rojo | Thanks for coming tonyb and mattoliverau :) | 07:46 |
| tonyb | yw | 07:46 |
| mattoliverau | nps, enjoy and ealier end to the meeting and 75 minutes earier then it used to | 07:46 |
| diablo_rojo | #endmeeting | 07:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 07:47 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 29 07:47:05 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fc_sig/2018/fc_sig.2018-08-29-07.00.html | 07:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fc_sig/2018/fc_sig.2018-08-29-07.00.txt | 07:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fc_sig/2018/fc_sig.2018-08-29-07.00.log.html | 07:47 |
| diablo_rojo | Will do mattoliverau! | 07:47 |
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| martial | Morning :) | 10:58 |
| priteau | Hello martial | 10:58 |
| janders | G'day | 11:00 |
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| oneswig | ready? | 11:01 |
| oneswig | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 11:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 29 11:01:11 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 11:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 11:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 11:01 |
| oneswig | just in the nick of time... good day | 11:01 |
| oneswig | #link agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_SIG#IRC_Meeting_August_29th_2018 | 11:01 |
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| oneswig | priteau: did you make it? | 11:01 |
| priteau | I | 11:02 |
| priteau | I'm here | 11:02 |
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| oneswig | bravo :-) | 11:02 |
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| oneswig | How's your Blazar PTG preparation going? | 11:02 |
| oneswig | Saw the etherpad, thanks for the link | 11:02 |
| b1air | evening | 11:02 |
| oneswig | b1air: g'day! | 11:03 |
| oneswig | #chair b1air | 11:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1air oneswig | 11:03 |
| priteau | We have a good agenda already, still need to set up a discussion with placement API folks | 11:03 |
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| oneswig | How's NZ going? | 11:03 |
| b1air | just intending to pop in more-or-less briefly, getting a bit late down here | 11:03 |
| martial | hello team (a little distracted because ... kids getting ready for school) | 11:03 |
| oneswig | priteau: good to see the interest from that end, really encouraging | 11:03 |
| oneswig | Morning martial! | 11:03 |
| oneswig | #chair martial | 11:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1air martial oneswig | 11:03 |
| b1air | i'm chalking up the air miles, put it that way | 11:04 |
| oneswig | Around NZ or further afield? | 11:04 |
| Republic | hi. I'm here from the Sanger Institute (my colleague Dave who is often around is stuck trying to get registered with NickServ) | 11:04 |
| oneswig | Hi Republic, welcome! | 11:04 |
| b1air | locally - been up to Auckland every week so far | 11:04 |
| janders | Republic: good to have you on board | 11:05 |
| oneswig | evening janders | 11:05 |
| oneswig | I visited the airbus factory on vacation where they make turboprops for Air NZ internal flights. | 11:05 |
| janders | Hi oneswig | 11:05 |
| b1air | interesting vacation activity oneswig | 11:06 |
| janders | Very cool :) | 11:06 |
| oneswig | Guess we ought to get going. How about PTG first martial? | 11:06 |
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| oneswig | #topic PTG prep | 11:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG prep (Meeting topic: scientific-sig)" | 11:06 | |
| martial | sure thing | 11:07 |
| oneswig | martial: it's about 2 weeks away now, anything new on the PTG? | 11:07 |
| martial | not much yet, the main link is at | 11:08 |
| martial | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetup-ptg-denver-2018 | 11:08 |
| oneswig | I was thinking, to follow up on discussion in Dublin, I ought to get together a write-up of our experience with Cinder boot-from-volume | 11:08 |
| oneswig | limited success so far but I think it worked in a basic case for networking and cinder configuration. | 11:09 |
| martial | and the Scientific content SIG info is at | 11:09 |
| martial | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/scientific-sig-denverptg2018 | 11:09 |
| janders | I'd chip in some thoughts on ironic resiliency enhancements | 11:10 |
| oneswig | One big thing that went by recently was the Ironic gang proposing work on boot from (ceph) volume. Which we'd really love | 11:10 |
| oneswig | I'll add my bit too | 11:10 |
| janders | I've had some networking issues probably not worth mentioning in detail here - long story short when one node gets stuck in "deploying" ironic dies till conductor is restarted | 11:11 |
| janders | There's a BZ for that, I'll try look it up | 11:11 |
| priteau | wow, I have never seen this bug | 11:11 |
| priteau | Is it happening on a specific release? | 11:12 |
| oneswig | Sounds nasty janders, not seen that ourselves and plenty of things can go wrong ... | 11:12 |
| janders | There are two, actually | 11:12 |
| janders | Queens | 11:12 |
| janders | 1) the thing just described | 11:13 |
| janders | 2) when nova compute gets started before keystone is responsive, it'll go deleting placement records | 11:13 |
| janders | These are private BZs, let me chat to RHAT to see how to best go about this | 11:14 |
| oneswig | Ah, perhaps something will appear on storyboard if they get to commit a patch | 11:14 |
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| oneswig | We have ~500 Ironic nodes on a Queens deployment. The infrastructure's second hand so things do get flakey at times but I'm not sure we've hit these specific issues. | 11:15 |
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| daveholland | o/ (freenode registration email vs our spam filter, bah) | 11:16 |
| oneswig | hi daveholland, well done for making it through | 11:17 |
| priteau | janders: what is deleted in placement exactly? On Ocata we've seen issues were new compute nodes entries are created, which don't match existing resource providers in placement | 11:17 |
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| oneswig | daveholland: I had a question for you about networking VRFs, perhaps in AOB... | 11:19 |
| oneswig | don't let me forget | 11:19 |
| janders | priteau: records for ironic nodes disappear. It manifests itself when instances don't get scheduled to ironic nodes anymore. | 11:19 |
| martial | feel free to add it to the etherpad, who knows maybe somebody has some idea :) | 11:19 |
| daveholland | oneswig: sure (networking not my strong point but I can pass questions on) | 11:19 |
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| oneswig | daveholland: simple question was, what consumes 1 VRF on the TOR switch? Is 1 VRF required for every VXLAN VNI? | 11:20 |
| janders | oneswig: do you have any experience running vxlan over IB? | 11:21 |
| daveholland | oneswig: I don't believe so but I will check | 11:22 |
| oneswig | janders: no, sorry. Isn't pkeys your best bet there for VTN segregation? | 11:22 |
| oneswig | Saw a great talk on it at the summit :-) | 11:22 |
| janders | oneswig: :) pkeys are cool for baremetals and sriov vms | 11:23 |
| janders | I'm trying to see if I can squeeze in some vanilla virtualised Ethernet nics on my SuperCloud instead of building a separate one | 11:24 |
| oneswig | OK, we've got a little off topic... was there any more on the PTG? For those of us not going, anything we'd like to see pursued from the OpenStack devs who will be attending? | 11:24 |
| daveholland | oneswig: Jono says that you only consume VRFs for hardware routing for tenant networks (which we're not currently doing) (to a max of 2047 VRFs on these switches... but you can scale-out) | 11:24 |
| oneswig | janders: a question of multiple physnets? | 11:24 |
| janders | From my side I'll chat to rhat on how to best chase up these resiliency issues. Already sent them a note. | 11:25 |
| oneswig | thanks janders, would be very helpful | 11:25 |
| oneswig | thanks daveholland - and Jono - so this is specifically for routing between VXLAN overlay networks? | 11:25 |
| janders | oneswig: Is it possible to specify sdn controller on per physnet basis? | 11:26 |
| daveholland | yes, but only when you go to hardware routing or distributed routing (DVR) | 11:26 |
| oneswig | janders: I believe so, we use a mix of Mellanox IB and networking-generic-switch on multiple deployments | 11:26 |
| janders | Great! Thanks heaps oneswig: | 11:27 |
| oneswig | Any final wish list items to add for PTG discussion? | 11:27 |
| janders | I'll chase up mlnx | 11:27 |
| janders | Security | 11:27 |
| oneswig | janders: I'll connect you with our expert on doing this | 11:27 |
| janders | Locking bios version/config | 11:28 |
| janders | Is this of interest to you guys? | 11:28 |
| oneswig | janders: sounds like trusted boot / TPM? | 11:28 |
| oneswig | Certainly of interest | 11:28 |
| janders | oneswig: thank you. I'll be in and out but will follow up when back in office. | 11:29 |
| oneswig | I'll put it on the SIG-PTG agenda janders | 11:29 |
| janders | oneswig: thank you again. | 11:29 |
| janders | One more thing: | 11:29 |
| janders | IPA connectivity | 11:29 |
| janders | Rhat ref arch is using dedicated flat provisioning network | 11:30 |
| oneswig | janders: go ahead and articulate that on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/scientific-sig-denverptg2018 | 11:30 |
| janders | Ok! | 11:30 |
| oneswig | #topic Up-coming CFPs | 11:31 |
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| oneswig | A few came by recently, some them were even in this broad time zone :-) | 11:31 |
| oneswig | Anyone going to SC, there's an Intel speakership programme on the side | 11:32 |
| oneswig | #link Intel speakerships at SC https://easychair.org/cfp/IntelSpeakershipsatSC18 | 11:32 |
| daveholland | we will probably send a Lucky Victim | 11:33 |
| oneswig | Specifically they include HPC/cloud and OpenHPC in the list of topics | 11:33 |
| oneswig | daveholland: I just get the theme tune to Dallas as an earworm every time I hear about it | 11:33 |
| janders | oneswig: IPA connectivity question added to the PTG etherpad. | 11:33 |
| oneswig | great | 11:33 |
| oneswig | For those based in the UK, there was a CFP for Computing Insight UK 2018 in Manchester in December | 11:34 |
| oneswig | #link CIUK 2018 CFP https://www.scd.stfc.ac.uk/Pages/CIUK2018_Presentations.aspx | 11:34 |
| oneswig | I've been the last couple of years and there's usually a good turn out of HPC/Cloud content | 11:35 |
| daveholland | thanks, hadn't seen that one, I'll pass it on | 11:35 |
| oneswig | this year may be particularly so. Andrew McNab from Manchester Uni is speaking on OpenStack and scientific computing at Manchester OpenStack meetup next Wednesday | 11:36 |
| oneswig | #link MCR OpenStack Meetup https://www.meetup.com/Manchester-OpenStack-Meetup/events/253630128/ | 11:36 |
| oneswig | He's going to be talking about a new scientific OpenStack research federation | 11:36 |
| oneswig | Hopefully he'll be more informative than its current home page - https://www.iris.ac.uk/ | 11:37 |
| daveholland | er! yes | 11:37 |
| oneswig | That's pretty much all I had on CFPs - anyone else seen things going on to announce? | 11:38 |
| oneswig | #topic AOB | 11:39 |
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| oneswig | So what's new? | 11:39 |
| priteau | The schedule for the Berlin Summit is online now, if people want to start selecting interesting topics. Not all of it is available though, for example project updates are not yet on it. | 11:40 |
| oneswig | Thanks priteau. Will you be doing a Blazar project update? | 11:40 |
| priteau | Yes, there will be one! | 11:41 |
| janders | priteau: great! | 11:41 |
| oneswig | Already looking forward to it :-) | 11:41 |
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| priteau | If I am not mistaken I think the Forum agenda is not organized yet either | 11:42 |
| oneswig | I don't think there has been anything on SIG events either. | 11:43 |
| oneswig | martial: b1air: you seen anything? | 11:43 |
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| ildikov | the Forum session proposal period opens on September 12 | 11:43 |
| b1air | no, bit early for that i think | 11:44 |
| oneswig | hey ildikov, thank you! | 11:44 |
| ildikov | full timeline is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum | 11:44 |
| b1air | ah, thx ildikov | 11:44 |
| priteau | Thanks ildikov! | 11:44 |
| ildikov | np :) | 11:44 |
| b1air | i did hear some rumours about Summit - PTG reconvergence in 2019 though... | 11:45 |
| ildikov | yes, that is indeed the plan | 11:45 |
| priteau | And it's in Denver again | 11:46 |
| martial | oneswig: not heard anything so far | 11:46 |
| ildikov | co-located but not overlapping, so we will keep the Forum during the Summit | 11:46 |
| b1air | priteau: can't have everything ;-) | 11:46 |
| oneswig | Someone in OpenStack must like a good Denver omelette :-) | 11:47 |
| ildikov | lol, I never associated Denver with omelette :) | 11:48 |
| oneswig | I've been revisiting the state of play with various efforts for Ceph+RDMA. Just saw today's contender has hard-coded IPs in the C++... | 11:48 |
| oneswig | So perhaps that one's not quite ready yet | 11:48 |
| b1air | 🤠| 11:49 |
| oneswig | OK, anything more to add for today? | 11:49 |
| oneswig | Wow, emojis in IRC. I had no idea | 11:50 |
| janders | Anyone out there using eth_ipoib? | 11:50 |
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| oneswig | janders: doesn't that require a downgraded version of OFED, or is it reinstated now? | 11:50 |
| janders | I've been running into problems and getting them fixed | 11:50 |
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| janders | oneswig: not anymore, works on latest now, we requested it to be readded | 11:51 |
| b1air | is that ethernet over ib, or perhaps that's what oneswig was thinking...? | 11:51 |
| janders | b1air: yes | 11:52 |
| oneswig | That's great. We avoided the need by using config drive for IPAM on our IB network | 11:52 |
| janders | There are some *fun* mtu issues on older cards | 11:52 |
| oneswig | Sounds like DHCP may become possible again (once you've fixed the last bugs :-) | 11:52 |
| janders | DHCP *just works* today | 11:52 |
| janders | Carrying data over the network in bulk can be a bit iffy but that's almost fixed too | 11:53 |
| oneswig | Are you closer to production scale now? | 11:54 |
| janders | Yes, making steady progress | 11:56 |
| janders | The solution is getting quite solid now | 11:56 |
| janders | I hope for solid POC with users on by the end of the year | 11:56 |
| janders | And continuous delivery from there | 11:56 |
| oneswig | janders: sounds good. Are you doing a containerised tripleo deployment? | 11:57 |
| janders | Most ppl would probably call that prod but I like to play things safe | 11:57 |
| janders | oneswig: working towards it. First release will be non tripleo, custom provisioning | 11:57 |
| janders | Will redeploy between POC and tripleo/prod | 11:58 |
| oneswig | But still RH supported? | 11:58 |
| janders | oneswig: yes | 11:58 |
| oneswig | I didn't realise that was possible | 11:58 |
| janders | That's the short answer. It's a long story but yes we're covered | 11:59 |
| oneswig | Good to hear it :-) | 11:59 |
| oneswig | OK, final comments anyone? | 11:59 |
| janders | Well work together with rhat to make things more mainstream | 11:59 |
| janders | oneswig: I'm good. Great chatting, thanks everyone. | 11:59 |
| oneswig | Good discussion, thanks all | 12:00 |
| oneswig | #endmeeting | 12:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 12:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 29 12:00:04 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 12:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-08-29-11.01.html | 12:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-08-29-11.01.txt | 12:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-08-29-11.01.log.html | 12:00 |
| daveholland | bye | 12:00 |
| Republic | ttfn | 12:00 |
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| oneswig | until next time | 12:00 |
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| jungleboyj | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 29 16:00:20 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 16:00 |
| cmart | hi | 16:00 |
| ganso | hello | 16:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:00 |
| walshh_ | hi | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | Hey. | 16:01 |
| abishop | o/ | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | Give people another minute. | 16:02 |
| woojay | Good morning. | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | Hey woojay . Welcome! | 16:02 |
| woojay | jungleboyj: Thank you. | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Guessing this is who we are getting for today so lets get started. | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | #topic announcements | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:03 | |
| jungleboyj | The usual reminder that we have the PTG Planning Etherpad. | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ptg-planning-denver-9-2018 | 16:04 |
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| xyang | Hi | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | If you have topics please add them. | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | If you are planning to come please add your name. :-) | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | A good list of people and some good topics. | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | Late next week I will start organizing the times. | 16:05 |
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| jungleboyj | Also, we landed on RC3 for our Rocky release. I know we found one more issue after that, but c'est le vie. | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | Overall I feel the release went pretty well. Thank you to everyone for your efforts. | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | Hoping to do a bit of time for a post-mortem at the PTG. | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | I think that is all I have for announcements. | 16:07 |
| e0ne | anyway, we can release it in rocky later with a next stable release | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: Right. | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Follow-up on Cinder/Manila Team Dinner. | 16:08 |
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| jungleboyj | If you want to come to dinner and haven't voted please do so: | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://doodle.com/poll/8rm3ahdyhmrtx5gp#table | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | Looks like the only day that works for everyone is Tuesday. So, thinking we will plan for then after the welcoming happy hour. | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: ^^^ Any concerns with that plan? | 16:10 |
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| jungleboyj | Ok, guessing he will catch up later. | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | I will look at some options for food. Did people like the place we went to last time we were in Denver? | 16:11 |
| * e0ne didn't remember what place did we meet in | 16:12 | |
| ganso | jungleboyj: I did. The place across the street was also good | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | Oh, looking at the Etherpad it looks like they already landed on Tuesday. | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | It was pretty good except they didn't have enough space for us really. | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | I will look around and land on a proposal for next week's meeting. | 16:13 |
| erlon | hey | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. I think that is all I needed to say there. | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Pruning Cinder backups with Ceph RBD driver . | 16:14 |
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| jungleboyj | cmart: You here? | 16:15 |
| cmart | yep | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack/2018-August/046878.html | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | cmart: Take it away. | 16:15 |
| cmart | cool. I realize that part of this discussion may be more for operators than developers -- but bear with me :) | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | cmart: No worries. All are welcome. :-) | 16:15 |
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| jungleboyj | Do we have eharney here? | 16:16 |
| jungleboyj | jbernard is not. He could also help with this question. | 16:16 |
| eharney | hi | 16:16 |
| cmart | very short version: many of my servers are 'pets' running non-cloud-native workloads. I run them as volume-backed instances, and use Cinder backup service to take volume backups of them every day | 16:16 |
| cmart | all is good until I want to start pruning old backups. (backend here is Ceph RBD) | 16:17 |
| cmart | it seems that Cinder Backup Service + Ceph RBD = you can only delete the *latest* backup of a given volume | 16:17 |
| cmart | which makes it basically impossible to manage recurring backups in a reasonable way | 16:17 |
| cmart | and it seems this limitation is not inherent to Ceph backend, so I'm not sure why Cinder imposes it | 16:18 |
| cmart | was hoping to connect with people who are either: | 16:18 |
| eharney | yeah, i think this is a limitation of cinder backup with how it can manage chains of incremental backups, and not really a Ceph issue | 16:18 |
| cmart | 1. taking recurring volume backups like I am, and may have advice/experience to share | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: Have you bumped into this with the work you have done on backups? | 16:19 |
| cmart | 2. familiar with this architecture in Cinder, and could help me understand and maybe I can help work on a fix | 16:19 |
| eharney | iirc cinder backup doesn't provide what would be needed for an "incremental forever" kind of back up strategy, i think it assumes you will regularly create full backups, but i haven't looked at this in depth in a bit | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | Could you resolve the issue by doing full backups instead of incremental? | 16:20 |
| cmart | I would if I could | 16:20 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: I didn't face this issue, but I agree with eharney | 16:20 |
| cmart | Cinder ignores the `--incremental` flag when you create backups with Ceph RBD backend. | 16:20 |
| cmart | the first backup of a given volume is *always* a full backup, and each subsequent backup is *always* an incremental backup. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | Hmmm, ok. Good to know. | 16:21 |
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| e0ne | cmart: it could be an issue with ceph driver if it ignores 'incremental' flag | 16:21 |
| eharney | isn't the inability to delete older backups an api-layer restriction? | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | That sounds like a ceph bug actially. | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | *actually | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: Yeah, that sounds buggy. | 16:22 |
| cmart | e0ne and eharney: yes and yes | 16:22 |
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| smcginnis | Any backup program behaves this way if you only ever do incremental backups. | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | But you need to be able to create full backups from time to time at least or incremental really becomes useless. | 16:23 |
| cmart | smcginnis the nomenclature is loosely applied here -- I believe that Cinder "incremental" backups with Ceph RBD are really *differential* backups | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:23 |
| eharney | this is solved in some backup software by synthesizing new full backups out of a chain of incremental backups periodically (which you need to do anyway if you want to be able to restore in a reasonable amount of time) | 16:23 |
| eharney | hrmm, i forgot about that terminology detail | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | If Cinder itself doesn't allow full backups, then that's a bug in cinder. If Ceph doesn't ignores it and only does incremental or differential, that's a bug in that dirver. | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ I think that is where we need to start. | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | cmart: If we are able to resolve the inability to ever create a new full backup would that help resolve your issues? | 16:25 |
| cmart | yes, I think so, if then Cinder allows deletion of old full / "incremental" backups before the newer full backup. | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | That's how it should work. | 16:26 |
| cmart | on the backend, interestingly, "incremental" backups are stored as snapshots of the RBD image, meaning they don't depend on each other | 16:27 |
| eharney | how backups are stored on the ceph backend is a bit confusing compared to how they are represented in cinder -- but some of that is a feature, not necessarily a bug | 16:27 |
| cmart | yeah. each "incremental" backup (according to cinder) actually contains a complete diff from the base in Ceph. so it's kinda standalone | 16:27 |
| eharney | so we need to be clear about what exactly we're trying to sort out here | 16:27 |
| e0ne | eharney: +1 | 16:28 |
| cmart | yeah. I think a straightforward solution would be if the `--incremental` flag was respected | 16:28 |
| cmart | I'm not really familiar with the existing code but happy to try to help | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | cmart: ++ I think that makes sense. | 16:29 |
| eharney | with the goal being that if you didn't supply that flag, you would end up with a fully independent new backup, which is not based on the older previous backups, right? | 16:29 |
| cmart | correct, eharney | 16:30 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: ++ | 16:30 |
| eharney | so, that's one possible solution, another would be to add something to break the dependency chain when you are performing the delete, to preserve the space optimization etc | 16:30 |
| eharney | but regardless of how it gets fixed it sounds like an interesting thing to look into | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | Well, the first is how it should work, but the second may be useful in some cases. | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | But a little odd as far as backup software behavior goes. | 16:31 |
| cmart | as to your last point eharney, Cinder would need a new concept of "differential" backup (as opposed to incremental) | 16:31 |
| eharney | but we only define how it should work in terms of what data is backed up and restoreable and how it behaves from the Cinder API layer | 16:31 |
| eharney | this driver does some optimizations in the backend to avoid transferring more data than is needed, which is fine as long as the right semantics are preserved at the higher layer | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 16:32 |
| eharney | so i guess the other question is, can you actually prune old backups when using other drivers? | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: ++ | 16:32 |
| cmart | my only experience here is with RBD | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | I don't think we want to create a special case. | 16:33 |
| eharney | sounds like it's worth writing a bug about for more investigation | 16:33 |
| xyang | Sorry that I may have missed some of the earlier discussions. If I remember correctly, Ceph backup driver implemented its own way of incremental backup, not using Cinder's incremental backup | 16:34 |
| xyang | So Ceph added support to incremental backup to ceph volumes, even before we added incremental backup support to Cinder | 16:34 |
| eharney | it still works with incremental backups in cinder, and tracks parent ids, etc | 16:34 |
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| eharney | (at least it's supposed to, it was kind of a mess a while ago but got a lot of bug fixes a couple of cycles ago) | 16:35 |
| xyang | but Ceph driver does not inherit from the chunked driver mechanism | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | Let's get a bug filed and verify that things are working correctly for all of them or if this is just an issue with ceph. | 16:35 |
| xyang | unless if someone has changed that | 16:35 |
| eharney | that's true, but i don't think it's really relevant? | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, chunked shouldn't matter, should it? | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | That's just how the data gets transferred. | 16:36 |
| xyang | yes, it does matter | 16:36 |
| xyang | Ceph has its own way of doing incremental | 16:36 |
| eharney | if that matters then we messed up somewhere, because that's just an implementation of how to keep track of the blocks of data | 16:36 |
| xyang | so you need to take a look of that driver | 16:36 |
| xyang | unless if someone re-write that to use cinder's incremental backup model | 16:36 |
| xyang | I thought Gorka may be familiar with this | 16:37 |
| cmart | I was hoping he might be around | 16:37 |
| cmart | this is a bit old https://gorka.eguileor.com/inside-cinders-incremental-backup/#Ceph-Incremental-Backup but maybe still relevant | 16:37 |
| jungleboyj | So, I have a proposal ... | 16:37 |
| xyang | cmart: I think you should check with Gorka about this | 16:37 |
| jungleboyj | Lets get a bug opened for this. Gorka and the important players will be in Denver. | 16:38 |
| jungleboyj | If we can get geguileo aware of the issue and then we talk it over at the PTG we can figure out where to go. | 16:38 |
| cmart | +1 I'll file a bug, and reference the questions asked here. | 16:38 |
| smcginnis | cmart: Thanks! | 16:38 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: sorry, forgot about the meeting (I miss the ping) | 16:39 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: Sorry. | 16:39 |
| jungleboyj | I just can't get booted every week. ;-) | 16:39 |
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| geguileo | lol | 16:40 |
| geguileo | I was catching up | 16:40 |
| geguileo | So this is an issue with the backups being linked when incremental, right? | 16:40 |
| geguileo | They want to remove that? | 16:40 |
| xyang | cmart: just checked. Ceph backup driver is still not using Chunked driver | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: Basically, after a new full backup, you should be able to delete previous backups. | 16:41 |
| geguileo | xyang: we don't use it because it's faster to ask Ceph cluster to get us the diff | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: It doesn't look like that's possible, at least with the way ceph is implementing things. | 16:41 |
| xyang | geguileo: not a problem. trying to differentiate Ceph's implementation vs Cinder's incremental | 16:41 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: yup, we have to start checking the parameter passed by Cinder | 16:41 |
| geguileo | I don't think we do it right now | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | Ah, good. Not that it doesn't work now, but that it is something simple like that. | 16:42 |
| geguileo | I would have to check how easy it is to do | 16:42 |
| geguileo | Because I believe Ceph does it always incremental if it can | 16:42 |
| geguileo | regardless of the parameters passed to Cinder | 16:42 |
| cmart | geguileo yes that's my experience | 16:42 |
| cmart | it's great until you want to remove old backups while keeping newer ones | 16:43 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, so it sounds like we have a bug that needs to be investigated. | 16:43 |
| cmart | (I think pretty much everyone doing recurring daily backups will want to do that) | 16:43 |
| cmart | got it. thanks for the context, all :) | 16:43 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: yup | 16:43 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: +1 | 16:43 |
| geguileo | the bug is that Ceph cannot create full backups after the first full backup | 16:43 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: ++ | 16:44 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: Are you able to look into that? | 16:44 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: I can at least look to see if it's an easy fix | 16:45 |
| geguileo | lol | 16:45 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: I will take that. | 16:45 |
| geguileo | cmart: is there a bug open? | 16:45 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: If not we can talk about it more at the PTG? | 16:45 |
| cmart | geguileo not yet but i'll summarize the above ^ and write one up for you | 16:45 |
| jungleboyj | cmart: That would be great. | 16:45 |
| jungleboyj | #action cmart to open a bug summarizing the issue. | 16:46 |
| jungleboyj | #action geguileo To look into it and see how hard it would be to change. | 16:46 |
| geguileo | cmart: thanks! | 16:46 |
| jungleboyj | cmart: Thanks for bringing this up! | 16:46 |
| cmart | of course. thanks for accommodating my use case | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | cmart: Sounds like a totally valid one. :-) | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | cmart: Anything else? | 16:47 |
| cmart | that's all for now jungleboyj | 16:48 |
| jungleboyj | cmart: Great. | 16:48 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: geguileo e0ne Thanks for your input on that as well. | 16:48 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Cross Project Times Added for PTG | 16:48 |
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| jungleboyj | So, we have time at the PTG planned 4-5 on Wednesday to chat with Ironic. | 16:48 |
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| jungleboyj | Julia contacted me and asked if we had any topics for her. I didn't know that we did but thought discussion about what Ironic is doing with Cinder and what they are planning to do in the future could be useful. | 16:49 |
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| jungleboyj | If you have specific topics for that time please add them to the etherpad and mark them accordingly. | 16:50 |
| jungleboyj | Also, we have our traditional 9 to 11 am time on Thursday with Nova. | 16:50 |
| jungleboyj | If you have anything to discuss with Nova please add the topic and I will schedule it for the cross project time. | 16:50 |
| jungleboyj | Anyone have anything else to share there? | 16:51 |
| e0ne | Wednesday will be great for me. that's great if we get full support of boot from volume and attach for ironic instances | 16:52 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: Cool. Glad that will be useful time. | 16:52 |
| jungleboyj | I figured if we got the teams together something useful could come from it. :-) | 16:52 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: I added something to Nova | 16:53 |
| jungleboyj | Plus who doesn't like hanging out with TheJulia | 16:53 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:53 |
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| jungleboyj | geguileo: Cool. | 16:53 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: and I assume they'll be adding the cross cell migration discussion | 16:53 |
| geguileo | if we don't clear it all out on the ML | 16:53 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: I would assume so. If not, we should add it. | 16:54 |
| jungleboyj | That is all I had there. | 16:54 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Open Discussion | 16:54 |
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| jungleboyj | Anyone have anything else to discuss? | 16:54 |
| smcginnis | Nothing here | 16:55 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Cool. Look forward to seeing people f2f in less than 2 weeks. | 16:56 |
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| jungleboyj | Talk to you all here next week. | 16:56 |
| jungleboyj | #endmeeting | 16:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 29 16:56:18 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2018/cinder.2018-08-29-16.00.html | 16:56 |
| smcginnis | Should be fun. | 16:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2018/cinder.2018-08-29-16.00.txt | 16:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2018/cinder.2018-08-29-16.00.log.html | 16:56 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:56 |
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| fungi | skipping the storyboard this week, but find people in #storyboard if you have something to bring up | 19:10 |
| fungi | er, skipping the storyboard *meeting* | 19:10 |
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