Tuesday, 2018-08-14

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samNTThi all for masakari03:00
tpatilHi03:00
samNTT#startmeeting masakari03:00
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samNTTtpatil: hi03:01
samNTTSorry I forget to push the patch for change the meeting time03:01
tpatilNP03:01
samNTTI will do it right after this meeting, so we can conduct meeting on 1pm JST next week03:02
tpatilThank you.03:02
samNTT#topic bugs/patches to discuss03:03
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samNTTtpatil: thanks for config file fix03:03
tpatilIt was a simple fix03:03
tpatilI have reported one issue in masakari-monitors today monring03:04
tpatils/monring/morning03:04
tpatilhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari-monitors/+bug/178687303:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1786873 in masakari-monitors "monitor_api_opts config options are not used when initialization of connection" [Undecided,New]03:04
samNTTI have already approved the backport and it's done. thanks again03:04
tpatilWe will propose patch soon to fix this issue03:04
samNTTtpatil: This is the multi regions issue03:05
tpatilyes03:05
samNTTtpatil: thanks.03:06
tpatilAlso, there is one bug in python-masakariclient to add --os-region-name and --os-interface options03:06
tpatilhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/python-masakariclient/+bug/176493103:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1764931 in python-masakariclient "--os-interface option doesn't work" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Tushar Patil (tpatil)03:06
tpatilI had give some review comments long back03:06
tpatilI have fixed those review comments and push a new PS03:06
tpatil#link : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/562973/03:07
tpatilBut I still need to add release notes03:07
tpatilto me, it seems like a new feature but we are adding these options as a bug fix03:07
tpatilIs it good to add new options as a bug fix?03:08
samNTTtpatil: agree, in the client side these are kind of feature extentions.03:09
tpatilIs this patch eligible to be back ported into the stable/rocky branch?03:10
samNTTIt is not OK to add new features as bug fixes, in python-clients all the other projects do the same and, codewize nothing new.03:10
samNTTtpatil: agree to backport to stable/rocky03:11
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tpatilShould I add release notes as a feature or bug fix?03:11
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tpatilI think feature seems good to me03:12
samNTTtpatil: let's add this as feature to release note03:12
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tpatilok03:12
tpatilEven releasenotes is broken in masakari-monitors, I'm checking this issue now03:13
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samNTTtpatil: Unfortunately yes03:13
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samNTTas you reported earlier, bug fixes are not shown in release note in masakari03:14
samNTTso, we have recheck the release note generation for all the projects03:15
samNTTI mean all the masakari projects03:15
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tpatilYes, we will confirm if release notes are generated correctly or not for all masakari projects03:16
tpatilhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/177975203:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1779752 in masakari-monitors "masakari segment-list returns error (openstack queens)" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Shilpa Devharakar (shilpasd)03:16
tpatil#link : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/590735/03:17
samNTTtpatil: thanks03:17
tpatilI will upload a new PS to make it work for region and interface03:17
tpatiland this one fixes above LP bug in python-masakariclient03:18
tpatil#link : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/588157/03:18
tpatilPlease review this patch03:18
tpatilPresently, on master branch we are not facing this issue so we need to fix it in stable/queens branch directly.03:19
samNTTtpatil: agree, I will review these03:19
tpatilabove patch works well with sdk version >=0.11.0 for which we had to make requirements-check gate job non-voting03:19
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tpatilThank you03:20
samNTTtpatil: got it. thanks03:20
samNTTAny other bug/patches to discuss03:21
samNTT?03:21
tpatilNo03:22
samNTT#topic Stein Planning03:22
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samNTTI have just created a etherpad for planning03:23
samNTT#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/masakari-ptg-stein03:23
samNTTThis same etherpad will used in PTG stein03:23
samNTTin next month03:23
tpatilOk, I will items which we plan to implement in Stein release03:24
samNTTBTW, other etherpads are here,03:24
samNTT#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Stein/Etherpads03:24
samNTTI will put more details into etherpad about plans for Stein.03:25
samNTTPlease add any new work items or new feature requests to above etherpad03:26
samNTT#topic AOB03:26
tpatilSure03:26
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samNTTAny other items to discuss?03:26
samNTTOtherwise we could finish early03:27
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tpatilIf no topics to be discussed , can we end this meeting?03:33
samNTTtpatil: sure, lets end the meeting03:33
samNTTThank you for your time.03:33
tpatilScrolling issue, I missed to see your messages03:34
samNTTtpatil: NP03:34
samNTTOK then, CU03:34
samNTT#endmeeting03:34
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dkushwaha#startmeeting tacker08:09
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dkushwaha#topic Roll Call08:10
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dkushwahaWho is here for Tacker meeting?08:10
YanXing_anhi08:12
dkushwahaYanXing_an: hi08:12
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YanXing_andkushwaha, seems other guys are trapped in registration08:16
dkushwahaYanXing_an: yea, seems so. :)08:16
dkushwahawe can wait for some time, and then we can close today meeting.08:17
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YanXing_anli_jia_li is online, you changed your nick name :)08:18
YanXing_anli_jia_le, hi08:19
li_jia_lehi08:19
dkushwahali_jia_le: hi08:19
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dkushwahaYanXing_an: li_jia_le do we have something to discuss?08:22
YanXing_andkushwaha, have rocky released?08:23
dkushwahaYanXing_an: I have to learn these thing, and how to do that, so I need help of gongysh for those things.08:24
dkushwahaYanXing_an: i hope, it not released yet08:25
longkbo/08:26
YanXing_andkushwaha, ok08:26
dkushwahalongkb: hi08:26
YanXing_anlongkb, hi08:26
li_jia_lelongkb hi.08:26
longkblong time no see :D08:26
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dkushwahalongkb: :)08:27
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YanXing_anlongkb, do you know dkushwaha is our new PTL?08:28
longkbWow08:28
longkbcongrat dkushwaha08:28
longkbI hear that from Phuoc08:29
dkushwahalongkb: Thanks :)08:29
longkbWe are in R-208:30
longkbso Rocky will be released in the next two weeks, right?08:30
dkushwahalongkb: yes, but i needs to understand the process first.08:31
dkushwahalongkb: do you have something to discuss ?08:32
dkushwahaotherwise, i am thinking to close today's meeting.08:33
longkbI am making plan the the S cycle :D08:33
longkb+1 dkushwaha08:33
dkushwahalongkb: great, looking for your support :)08:34
longkbI will show my plan later08:34
longkbCongratulation again :)08:34
dkushwahaalright folks. Closing this meeting08:34
dkushwahaThanks all08:34
dkushwaha#endmeeting08:34
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slaweq_#startmeeting neutron_qos15:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Aug 14 15:00:12 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is slaweq_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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slaweq_hi15:00
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reedipbo/15:01
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slaweq_mlavalle will not be available today so I think we can start15:02
slaweq_#topic RFEs15:02
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slaweq_we have 4 RFE still15:03
slaweq_lets talk about https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1578989 as this probably has some progress15:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Lajos Katona (lajos-katona)15:03
slaweq_rubasov: do You want to give us some update about it?15:03
rubasovyes15:04
rubasovthanks to the reviewers we made nice progress15:04
rubasovwe have several neutron-lib patches close to merging15:05
slaweq_yw :)15:05
rubasovand many of the neutron side patches moved out of WIP status15:05
slaweq_I will try to review them ASAP also15:05
slaweq_now we have master unblocked for Stein so we can go go with those patches15:06
rubasovmost of those patches look bad (zuul-1), but in fact I think they are not so bad, because all those -1s are the result of having open neutron-lib dependencies15:06
slaweq_I saw some of them made by lajoskatona15:07
slaweq_so we should focus on merging those neutron-lib patches and then as for new neutron-lib release15:07
rubasovhongbin had some very good comments on the error handling of the placement sync service plugin15:07
rubasovI'm working on those comments15:08
slaweq_great15:08
rubasovslaweq_: a neutron-lib release would be great at some point15:08
slaweq_that should be no problem I think. But probably we will need to wait until stable rocky will be released finally and then we will be able to release it15:09
rubasovwe also hope to put together a new end-to-end demo of what we have before the ptg15:09
rubasovslaweq_: we are in no hurry15:10
slaweq_sure15:10
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slaweq_but You need to have something working on Berlin Summit as talk was approved :)15:11
slaweq_btw. congratulations :)15:11
njohnstono/15:11
reedipboh ...nice15:11
slaweq_njohnston: hi15:11
rubasovslaweq_: but I have the feeling we are not following best dev practices with all those open neutron-lib dependencies15:11
reedipbcongratulations :)15:11
rubasovslaweq_: I also wanted to mention the summit presentation15:11
rubasovslaweq_, reedipb: thank you guys15:11
slaweq_sorry then :)15:12
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slaweq_what good practices You talk about exactly?15:12
rubasovslaweq_: no problem at all15:12
rubasovslaweq_: that the gate is not testing the neutron patches until we make a new neutron-lib release15:13
slaweq_ahh15:13
rubasovslaweq_: the simpler tests we run them locally15:13
slaweq_I think it's more infra related15:13
slaweq_we can discuss that in Denver maybe - what You think about it?15:13
rubasovthat would be really great15:13
slaweq_maybe we can try to change jobs in master branch to use also neutron-lib master? I don't know15:14
rubasovand also we could talk about the summit presentation15:14
slaweq_ok, I will add it to Denver etherpad today15:14
rubasovhow to divide it up between the four of us15:14
slaweq_sure, we can talk about it in Denver15:15
slaweq_there will be time for that for sure15:15
rubasovslaweq_: I'm looking forward to that discussion, thank you for adding it to the etherpad15:15
slaweq_np15:15
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slaweq_ok, I think we can go to next one now15:16
rubasovunless lajoskatona or hongbin wants to share a few more things that's all from me about this bp15:16
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reedipnjohnston : ping ?15:17
slaweq_ok, let's move to next RFE then15:18
slaweq_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/175704415:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1757044 in neutron "[RFE] neutron L3 router gateway IP QoS" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889)15:18
slaweq_Patches already sent to review: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1757044+(status:open+OR+status:merged)15:18
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slaweq_reedip njohnston do You want to talk about something?15:21
reedipnope, was getting him back in the channel :)15:21
* njohnston was just answering reedip's ping :-)15:21
slaweq_ahh, ok :)15:21
slaweq_so lets move on15:21
slaweq_we have also 2 old RFEs:15:21
slaweq_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/156096315:21
openstackLaunchpad bug 1560963 in neutron "[RFE] Minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress]15:22
slaweq_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/172757815:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1727578 in neutron "[RFE]Support apply qos policy in VPN service" [Wishlist,Triaged]15:22
slaweq_but there was no any progress on both of them recently15:22
slaweq_so I just drop it here as always to not forget about them :)15:22
slaweq_let's talk about bugs now15:22
slaweq_#topic Bugs15:22
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slaweq_generally there wasn't any new bugs reported recently15:23
slaweq_most of opened bugs have got patches proposed or some conversation in bug comments at least so I think we are good15:23
slaweq_first bug is:15:23
slaweq_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/178400615:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1784006 in neutron "Instances miss neutron QoS on their ports after unrescue and soft reboot" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel)15:23
slaweq_this one is assigned to mlavalle but I don't think he did any progress on it15:24
slaweq_other bugs are in better condition :)15:25
slaweq_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/178355915:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1783559 in neutron "Qos binding network causes ovs-agent to send a lot of rpc" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Chengqian Liu (liuchengqian90)15:25
slaweq_Patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/585752/ - IMO it's good to go but someone needs to check it as well15:25
* njohnston looks15:25
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njohnstonah yes, this one looks good to me as well15:26
slaweq_:)15:26
njohnstonanything that can make RPC less chatty is a good thing in my book15:26
slaweq_next one is:15:26
slaweq_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/177866615:26
openstackLaunchpad bug 1778666 in neutron "QoS - “port” parameter is required in CLI in order to set/unset QoS policy to floating IP" [Low,Confirmed]15:26
slaweq_lajoskatona tried to reproduce it but he couldn't. Still waiting for some info from reported15:27
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slaweq_and other bugs on the list are related to docs :)15:27
slaweq_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/177874015:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1778740 in neutron "Quality of Service (QoS) in Neutron - associating QoS policy to Floating IP" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)15:27
slaweq_Patch is ready for review: https://review.openstack.org/59161915:28
slaweq_please add it to Your review list15:28
njohnstonwill do15:28
* slaweq_ will quickly go through rest of bugs now :)15:28
slaweq_next #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/177905215:28
openstackLaunchpad bug 1779052 in neutron "Quality of Service (QoS) in Neutron (documentation) - only different types rules can be combined in QoS policy" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to yanpuqing (ycx)15:28
slaweq_patch https://review.openstack.org/58194115:28
slaweq_this is also easy fix in docs15:28
slaweq_next:15:29
slaweq_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/178189215:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1781892 in neutron "QoS – Neutron port is not effected after association “Floating IP” with “QoS policy” enabled" [Low,Fix released] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)15:29
slaweq_patch is waiting: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/583967/15:29
slaweq_and the last one:15:29
slaweq_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/177786615:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1777866 in neutron "QoS CLI – Warning in case when provided burst is lower than 80% BW" [Wishlist,New]15:29
slaweq_here lajoskatona did patch for OSC: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/588168/15:29
slaweq_and I did today patch to our docs also: https://review.openstack.org/59162315:29
slaweq_and that's all from my bugs list15:30
slaweq_in general there is nothing really urgent (maybe except this bug assigned to mlavalle)15:30
slaweq_any questions or comments?15:30
njohnstonnothing from me :-)15:31
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slaweq_if not, I think we can finish earlier and get back almost 30 minutes15:32
slaweq_thanks for attending this meeting guys15:32
slaweq_and see You in 2 weeks15:32
reedipo/15:32
rubasovthank you guys15:32
slaweq_#endmeeting15:32
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clarkbInfra meeting time19:00
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clarkb#startmeeting infra19:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Aug 14 19:01:46 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:01
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clarkb#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting19:02
clarkb#topic Announcements19:02
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clarkbI'm going to be on vacation next week.19:02
clarkbfungi: we don't have a stein release key yet do we?19:02
funginope, but i'm happy to generate one unless someone else wants to take a try at it19:03
fungithe process documentation should be very easy to follow19:03
fungiand i'm happy to provide support too19:03
clarkbfungi: when have you tried to have those generated by relative to the cycle?19:03
fungiideally before release day, but any time in the prior cycle is fine19:04
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ianwdoes it happen on puppetmaster or bridge now?19:04
fungias long as the expiration date is set for a sufficient duration19:04
fungiit should be doable on bridge19:04
clarkbhttps://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html says Ideally it would be done next week19:04
clarkbor between now and then19:05
fungireally it just needs to happen on a secure system to which we have access so we can all double-check the fingerprint of the symmetrically-encrypted master key on disk19:05
clarkbanyway it occurred to me that we normally announce the need to go sign the key in the announcement portion of this meeting and realized we hadn't done that here so brought it up19:05
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fungimakes sense--thanks for the reminder!19:05
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fungiwe also put it into the release schedule so we get a reminder from the release team19:06
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* diablo_rojo sneaks in a little late19:06
clarkbfungi: ah ok so they should reach out as well? I probably won't commit to it as I'll likely be afk when they want it19:06
fungilooks like diablo_rojo just volunteered! ;)19:06
clarkbAnything else to announce?19:07
fungi(kidding, it needs to be an infra-root volunteer specifically)19:07
diablo_rojoUmm..uh..19:07
diablo_rojowhew19:07
fungibut yeah, i'll plan to do it later this week. if anyone else wants to instead, let me know19:07
mordredclarkb: I'm also going to be out most ofnext week19:08
mordredclarkb: I leave wednesday for vietnam - so will be traveling for $hours - then the week and a half after that I'll be on vacation19:08
clarkbfun! I'm headed to the oregon coast with family while parents are here. Going to try our luck at crabbing19:09
corvussounds like we may be short staffed enough that we should all just take a break :)19:09
mordredclarkb: I'll wave across the pacific19:09
clarkb#topic Actions from last meeting19:09
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clarkb#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-08-07-19.01.txt Minutes from last meeting19:10
clarkbI don't see any actions19:10
clarkb#topic Specs approval19:10
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clarkbianw: Should we be looking at the letsencrypt spec at this point? You mentioned in IRC earlier that you didn't feel like you had other things to change?19:11
clarkbmaybe reviews this week and look at putting up for approvla next week?19:11
ianwyes please, i've incorporated all the current review comments at this point, so ready for review19:11
clarkb#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/587283/ Letsencrypt spec19:12
clarkbPlease review and we can try to put it up for approval next week19:12
fungii'm about 2/3 through reading the current version (i think). a slew of minor comments pending in gertty for it, but am generally in favor so far19:12
clarkbfungi: thanks19:12
clarkb#topic Priority Efforts19:12
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clarkb#topic Storyboard19:13
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clarkbHaven't seen anything major here, but projects continue to plan migrations19:14
fungidiablo_rojo: any updates?19:14
diablo_rojoI just saw on the ML puppet is interested19:14
fungiyup, that was encouraging19:14
diablo_rojoso I will help the new PTL and the project through stuff.19:14
fungilooking to migrate next cycle sounds like19:14
diablo_rojoWe have a lot of open reviews that need some love.19:14
diablo_rojohttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient+status:open19:14
diablo_rojofungi, next cycle or just whenever they feel comfortable19:15
fungithe puppet-openstack ptl appears to have taken the initiative to deploy a copy of storyboard locally and perform an import himself even19:15
clarkb#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient+status:open Storyboard reviews19:15
diablo_rojoYeah that was awesome.19:15
diablo_rojoThanks clarkb :) I can never remember to do that unless I am leading the meeting.19:16
* fungi notes diablo_rojo has volunteered to chair future infra team meetings ;)19:16
clarkbWe do need a volunteer for next week :P19:16
diablo_rojo*sigh*19:16
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fungiseems like that's it for storyboard updates this week19:17
clarkb#topic Config Managment Updates19:17
diablo_rojoJust pleading for reviews19:17
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cmurphyo/19:17
clarkbThings are moving here, mordred has bridge.o.o up and running and cmurphy's parade of puppet 4 changes are moving along19:17
mordredI thought we were just about ready to do the puppetmaster to bridge cutover ... but then realized there were a couple of special-cases with exim config, and the base playbook has exim stuff in it19:18
clarkbtopic:puppet-4 and topic:update-cfg-mgmt19:18
mordredso hopefully we'll get the special cases handled - once we do - I'll want to do the cutover - at which point we should be able to just do small patches replacing a puppet bit with an ansible bit19:18
corvusmordred: i guess we should all strive to help you achieve that before you go on vacation? :)19:18
cmurphymostly just have new tests and then some handpicked nodes to turn the future parser on19:18
mordredcorvus: yes. it should be TOTALLY achievable this week19:19
cmurphyalso this xenial fix for askbot https://review.openstack.org/58519619:19
corvus(i'd love to avoid having the puppetmaster split across a long period).  cool.19:19
mordredit's honestly just those exim patches and making sure we like them19:19
mordredcorvus: so maybe let's sync up on those after the meeting?19:19
clarkband for those following along the new server will continue to run puppet against most things, we just don't need puppet on the control node to do that19:19
clarkbthen we'll migrate puppetized things one or a handful at a time19:20
clarkb(while concurrently making them use puppet that isn't ancient (because we expect the off puppet migration to take time)19:20
mordredyes19:20
ianwcmurphy: looks like that falls back to being stuck on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/559178/ (minor fork of puppet-solr?)19:20
mordredadditionally, this initial migration also handles a chunk of the things in openstack_project::server in ansible19:20
mordredso users, initial packages, etc - are all migrated into ansible already19:21
mordredso each "run" of puppet will run the base.yaml playbook first, then will run remote_puppet*19:21
ianwmordred: have you run it against bridge.o.o itself?  i noticed my key was wrong there19:21
cmurphyianw: i think askbot in general is stuck on that patch but the patch i linked shouldn't be stuck on anything19:21
mordredianw: yes - I think we should have landed the patch to fix your key - but I haven't re-run it since that landed19:21
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ianwcmurphy: i think it's on top of the current outstanding stack (585196)?19:22
clarkbMostly just need reviews and coordinating hte larger action of deleting puppetmaster.o.o then?19:22
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cmurphyianw: oh yes you're right19:23
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cmurphyi was looking at owner:self derp19:23
mordredclarkb: yah19:23
ianwmordred: so does puppet currently redo some of the stuff that the new base.yaml does?19:24
mordredianw: it would if we ran the stack as it is landed right now19:24
mordredianw: by the end of the current proposed stack, no19:24
mordredianw: although - with the exception of exim config on 4 hosts - the puppet and ansible are currently producing the same results19:25
mordredso the puppet run is a no-op on the things that are the same19:25
mordredI did run the base.yaml playbook against review-dev.openstack.org19:25
mordredianw: your ssh key should be fixed now19:25
ianwthanks :)19:26
mordredone other thing, just so people are aware - bridge is running ansible 2.6 using python3 - and is also using the new openstack inventory _plugin_ instead of the old openstack inventory script19:26
mordredplus some other new fancy ansible inventory plugins19:26
mordredso if you haven't seen that stuff yet, it's worth looking at it - hopefully it's understandable19:26
clarkbmordred: any concern with doing that and wanting to use "random" roles for services?19:26
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ianwmordred: maybe just so it's in the minutes, and i think related -- what's the thinking on moving kerberos/afs roles into system-config for -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/590591/19:27
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ianw(and i presume similar roles)19:27
clarkbwe add python3 support to them I guess if that becoes a problem19:27
mordredclarkb: yah19:27
mordredclarkb: we're gonna have to add it at some point :)19:27
mordredhttp://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/playbooks/roles/install-ansible/files/groups.yaml19:27
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mordredis the replacement for how we add hosts into ansible groups from the hacked-together groups.txt thing19:27
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mordredianw: I think we should move them into system-config - I also think roles wants to move up into the root of system-config - but we need to do a dance with role paths for that, and I'm worried about the puppetmaster/bridge split and complexity19:28
mordredso I think we should shift roles after we cutover - and add your afs/krb roles as the first thing19:29
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ianwyeah, i'm kind of missing the why they're better there bit :)19:30
clarkbianw: rather than being in their own repos you mean?19:30
ianwor zuul-jobs?  won't that get dragged in?19:30
mordredno - we're not running these in zuul - we run ansible on bridge in its own context19:31
clarkbmordred: well we also use them in zuul jobs (or could use them) for wheel build jobs to set up afs19:31
mordredso if we used them from zuul-jobs we'd wind up adding zuul-jobs roles path to our production role path on system-config - which seems backwards to me19:31
mordredbut yes - if we put them in system-config, we can add system-config to the roles path for the jobs19:31
mordredso that way it's "use the production roles in testing" rather than "use the testing roles in production"19:32
clarkbmordred: ya I like that also makes it clear if you change this then productio nchanges19:32
mordredyah19:32
clarkbwhich probably won't be so clear if in zuul-jobs19:32
mordredeventually having an ansible-role-openafs-client repo would probably be aces - but for now keeping them in system-config while we sort it out seems like less churn19:33
clarkbfwiw I kind of like the aggregate roles situation in eg zuul-jobs or ozj better than puppet-.* everything we ended up with19:33
ianwok > zuul-jobs roles path to our production role path on system-config19:33
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ianwi guess that was my misunderstanding, i thought that would be fine19:33
ianwmaybe even kind of the idea of zuul-jobs as generic collection of things19:34
corvuswell, i see it as a collection of jobs that are generally useful19:34
clarkbso maybe an infra roles stdlib repo would make sense rather than a repo per role (but not sure how happy ansible is with that construct generally)19:35
corvusi don't know how generally applicable our afs mirror wheel building jobs are.  maybe?19:35
ianwcorvus: this is just generic "setup as a kerberos client" and "install afs client" roles19:35
clarkband I think system-config is an easy place to start so no objections to use it19:35
mordredclarkb: ansible is growing the ability for grok a repo of roles - but its not there yet19:36
mordredthere is a new tool called "mazer" that is being developed to do fancier things with role management19:36
corvusianw: right, but with no job to use them defined there, it's questionable whether that's the right place.19:36
mordredso if we did it, it would be fine, but it would involve us putting the git repo on disk and adding it to roles path19:36
corvus(we have *some* roles in zuul-jobs without jobs using them, but generally those are ones which are designed to be used in a config repo)19:37
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mordredclarkb: which, incidentally, is what https://review.openstack.org/#/c/590752/3 does19:37
clarkbanything else before we continue on our way down the agenda?19:38
ianwok, in terms of testing ... i have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/589335/ ... i don't think that pulls in system-config roles, i guess that will be ok to do in o-z-j?19:38
mordredianw: yes, I believe so19:38
ianwok, sorry, if i have more questions i'll follow up, but thanks19:39
mordredianw: awesome - and sorry, I keep meaning to try to overlap days with you more to chat about it19:39
clarkb#topic General Topics19:40
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clarkbReally quickly. its been pointed out that we need to continue upgrading off of trusty because it has abou 8 months of life left19:41
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clarkbI'm trying to push on ethercalc and etherpad as they had a bit of work done around their puppet to support it. I think we are to the point where a new ethercalc can be deployed so will do that today after the meeting19:41
clarkb#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591017/ Support for digitized etherpad servers19:41
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clarkbthat change is necesary for etherpad. mordred I think it runs into group change stuff that we need to coordinate on19:42
clarkbmordred: ^ maybe we wait for bridge cutover before booting new etherpad* nodes19:42
mordredyah - that'll probably be easiest19:42
clarkbok I'll WIP it then19:42
mordredthat way we won't be trying to juggle both boxes - but we'll also push hard on the cutover19:42
clarkbThere are a number of services that need to be updated to newer distro. I think next month is a great time to work on that as the release will be behind us19:43
clarkbWhen I get back from vacation I'll try to put together some planning for a sprint as I think those have worked well in the past19:43
clarkb(likely after ptg given that we'll be juggling that soon enough)19:43
clarkbianw: Want to talk about third party ci spec?19:44
clarkb#link https://review.openstack.org/563849 Direction setting for 3rd Party CI19:44
ianw++ it's much easier if we collaborate, as you get stuck with a bunch of puppet patches on repos that nobody really watches19:44
clarkbianw: indeed19:45
ianwand then get distracted :)  at least i do :)19:45
ianwre 3rd party; just a quick note -- prior reviews out of all the options windmill was pulling ahead19:45
ianwi think as stage 2, we should really define what we mean by 3rd party ci -- i.e. what you start with, and where you get to19:45
ianwso i've written that out in the spec19:46
ianwso i'd like reviews on that19:46
ianwi think, once we have those two bits, we have a complete thing we can start actually working on, with criteria for it being "done"19:46
mordred++19:46
ianwthat's all :)19:47
clarkb#topic Open Discussion19:48
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clarkbIt occurs to me I didn't explicitly ask for a volunteer to run for the meeting next weke but we will need one19:48
clarkbLet me knowif interested19:49
pabelangerI'd like to push on our base job rework if possible, http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-August/006032.html for more info19:49
pabelangerI likey need to rebase conflicts19:49
clarkbpabelanger: why is base-ozj in project-config?19:50
ianwpabelanger: i did look, some of the reviews i got a bit scared because they were moving big bits.  a bit more description will help in the changes i think19:51
clarkbmight just be me but that seems confusing organizationally19:51
clarkbianw: ++19:51
pabelangerokay, will update19:51
pabelangerbut base-ozj is needed for integeation testing of zuul-jobs19:51
pabelangerwhich is currently base-minimal19:52
clarkbpabelanger: mostly its weird that base-ozj isn't in ozj19:52
pabelangerclarkb: open to suggestions for naming19:52
pabelangerjobs in ozj will use it19:52
fungimmm, so when i said i was in favor of the le spec so far, i hadn't gotten to the actual implementation proposal yet. worried it's going to be overengineered, fragile and less secure than the current situation we have (no offense, ianw, i really thought the earlier discussions about "proxying" acme renewals and having a site proxy to bootstrap new systems was meant to be parody)19:53
clarkbpabelanger: can followup after the meeting19:54
clarkbpabelanger: but I think it would be helpful if we could have ascii art or similar of where we are today and where we want to be19:54
clarkbpabelanger: at least for me understanding these organizational changes are aided by diagrams19:54
pabelangerokay19:55
clarkbI'll let the last 3 minutes run out if there is anything else, but that is all I had19:57
clarkbthank you everyone19:57
clarkb#endmeeting20:00
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openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-08-14-19.01.txt20:00
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fungithanks clarkb!20:01
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