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| tpatil | #startmeeting Masakari | 03:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 3 03:00:57 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tpatil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 03:01 |
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| tpatil | Hi All | 03:01 |
| samP | tpatil: Hi | 03:01 |
| niraj_singh | hi | 03:01 |
| samP | Sorry, bit late | 03:01 |
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| tpatil | samP: No problem, please take the pilot seat | 03:01 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks. | 03:01 |
| samP | OK, then, let's start | 03:02 |
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| samP | #topic bugs and patches | 03:02 |
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| samP | Any critical bugs or patches? | 03:02 |
| samP | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1779165 | 03:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1779165 in masakari "masakari service docs are not published" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to SamP (sampath-priyankara) | 03:03 |
| samP | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1779166 | 03:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1779166 in masakari "masakari API docs are not published" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to SamP (sampath-priyankara) | 03:03 |
| samP | docs are not published, I will take care of this. | 03:03 |
| tpatil | Ok | 03:03 |
| tpatil | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1779752 | 03:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1779752 in masakari "masakari segment-list returns error (openstack queens)" [Undecided,New] | 03:03 |
| samP | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1779752 | 03:04 |
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| samP | ^^ looks like a python-masakariclient issue | 03:04 |
| tpatil | This bug is reported by Torin. | 03:04 |
| samP | tpatil: yep | 03:05 |
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| samP | I remember fixing this, may be wrong. | 03:05 |
| tpatil | what version of python-masakariclient and openstacksdk to be installed for stable/queens? | 03:06 |
| samP | 5.10 | 03:06 |
| samP | 5.1.0 | 03:06 |
| samP | openstacksdk>=0.13.0 | 03:07 |
| tpatil | Someone need to install stable/queens to reproduce this issue. I will see if I have time to do this. | 03:09 |
| samP | tpatil: I am rebuilding my env with stable/queens to test masakari-monitors issues | 03:09 |
| samP | I will take a look at this too. | 03:10 |
| tpatil | Ok Gr8 | 03:10 |
| samP | I am gonna assign this to me just for now.. | 03:12 |
| tpatil | We should mark this issue as Critical | 03:12 |
| samP | tpatil: agree | 03:12 |
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| tpatil | done | 03:12 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks | 03:12 |
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| samP | I will confirm this after testing | 03:13 |
| samP | Any other patches or bugs? | 03:13 |
| tpatil | Need review : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576042/ | 03:14 |
| samP | tpatil: sure, I will do. | 03:14 |
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| tpatil | #link : https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1739383 | 03:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1739383 in masakari "'409 Conflict' occurred when adding reserved_host to aggregate" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to takahara.kengo (takahara.kengo) | 03:17 |
| tpatil | This LP bug was fixed long time ago | 03:17 |
| tpatil | Can u please make this bug as fix released or fix committed? | 03:18 |
| samP | tpatil: set it to fix released, thanks | 03:19 |
| tpatil | samP: Thanks | 03:19 |
| samP | Any other issues? | 03:20 |
| tpatil | N | 03:21 |
| samP | if not, let's move to discussion | 03:21 |
| tpatil | No | 03:21 |
| samP | #topic Discussion points and subprojects | 03:21 |
| samP | (1) Horizon Plugin | 03:21 |
| samP | sorry, I didn't have time to check the patches. | 03:22 |
| samP | I think tpatil is mainly checking those. I will join soon | 03:22 |
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| tpatil | I have reviewed 4 patches, some minor comments are given which niraj_singh will fix soon | 03:22 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks | 03:23 |
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| niraj_singh | yes | 03:23 |
| samP | niraj_singh: thanks for great work! | 03:23 |
| samP | (2) Ansible support | 03:23 |
| samP | This task is pending due to environment issue. | 03:24 |
| tpatil | Yes | 03:24 |
| samP | I will fix the env, and try to provide required features asap | 03:24 |
| samP | (3) recovery method customization | 03:24 |
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| tpatil | I saw your comment on specs | 03:25 |
| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458023/ | 03:25 |
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| tpatil | I have requested Shilpa to update specs | 03:26 |
| tpatil | Instead of adding new section "host_rh_failure_recovery_tasks", we will add two new config option under taskflow_driver_recovery_flows for RH failure | 03:27 |
| tpatil | host_rh_failure_pre_recovery_tasks | 03:27 |
| tpatil | host_rh_failure_main_recovery_tasks | 03:27 |
| tpatil | RH workflow is a bit different from others | 03:28 |
| tpatil | if reserved_host list contains more than one reserved host and if instances cannot be evacuated on one reserved host, we need to get the next one from the list | 03:29 |
| tpatil | for that purpose we have used ParameterizedForEach flow | 03:30 |
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| tpatil | we need to call disable compute host only once, hence this task will be part of host_rh_failure_pre_recovery_tasks | 03:30 |
| tpatil | and all other tasks will be part of host_rh_failure_main_recovery_tasks config option | 03:30 |
| samP | tpatil: yes, understand. But we can consider this nested flow as single flow? | 03:31 |
| tpatil | it executes as single workflow only, but from configuration point of view, we have provided two config options so that operator can add more custom tasks for each of these options | 03:32 |
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| tpatil | for example, host_rh_failure_pre_recovery_tasks config option, disable compute node and send alert email | 03:33 |
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| tpatil | and in case of host_rh_failure_main_recovery_tasks config option, along with evacuation of instances, send alert to operator of enabling compute service on each reserved host | 03:34 |
| samP | tpatil: understand your point. What my concern is, it will break the uniformity of the config. | 03:35 |
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| samP | tpatil: may be not, let me reconsider with correct details. | 03:36 |
| tpatil | Yes, for RH failure, there are two config options | 03:37 |
| tpatil | but then these config options will be under [taskflow_driver_recovery_flows] instead of [host_rh_failure_recovery_tasks] | 03:38 |
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| tpatil | only in case of RH failure, we need to iterate through input reserved host list | 03:38 |
| tpatil | and hence we have come up with this design | 03:38 |
| samP | tpatil: In host failure, config options are different from each other. But operator only one of them. | 03:40 |
| samP | In, [taskflow_driver_recovery_flows], we can have structure for 4 host failure recovery patterns. Only one will be used. | 03:42 |
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| tpatil | that is configurable based on recovery_method configured in segment | 03:43 |
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| samP | tpatil: ah.. someone can have different pattern for different segments. But we have one config file. | 03:44 |
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| samP | In this case, multiple host failure recovery methods need to address in config file | 03:45 |
| tpatil | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/724825/ | 03:46 |
| tpatil | all recovery tasks will be part of a new config file, | 03:46 |
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| samP | LGTM | 03:48 |
| tpatil | ok | 03:48 |
| samP | auto priority and rh priority also use same config. do we need some config for them? | 03:49 |
| tpatil | auto_priorty = host_auto_failure_recovery_tasks followed by (host_rh_failure_pre_recovery_tasks + host_rh_failure_main_recovery_tasks) | 03:52 |
| tpatil | rh priority is exactly opposite | 03:52 |
| tpatil | if instances are evacuated successfully using "host_auto_failure_recovery_tasks" recovery workflow, then it won't execute (host_rh_failure_pre_recovery_tasks + host_rh_failure_main_recovery_tasks) | 03:53 |
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| samP | tpatil: yep. Let's focus on above. I think no need to add anything specific to auto and rh priority methods | 03:54 |
| samP | Please add above discussion to spec. | 03:55 |
| tpatil | Ok | 03:55 |
| samP | we have 5mins left | 03:55 |
| samP | #topic AOB | 03:55 |
| samP | Any other issues? | 03:55 |
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| tpatil | No | 03:56 |
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| samP | if not let's finish today meeting. Thank you all for your time. | 03:56 |
| tpatil | Thank you, I will end this meeting | 03:57 |
| samP | tpatil: sure | 03:57 |
| tpatil | #endmeeting | 03:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 3 03:57:24 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:57 |
| samP | thansk | 03:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-07-03-03.00.html | 03:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-07-03-03.00.txt | 03:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-07-03-03.00.log.html | 03:57 |
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| gongysh | #startmeeting tacker | 08:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 3 08:00:55 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gongysh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 08:01 |
| gongysh | #topic roll call | 08:01 |
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| YanXing_an | o/ | 08:01 |
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| phuoc_ | o/ | 08:01 |
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| joxyuki_ | o/ | 08:02 |
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| Li_Jiale | o/ | 08:02 |
| keiko | o/ | 08:02 |
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| dkushwaha | o/ | 08:03 |
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| gongysh | #topic deadline announcement | 08:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "deadline announcement (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:05 | |
| gongysh | 2018-07-26 is the deadline for rocky-3 | 08:05 |
| gongysh | we will not accept new functional patch for rocky cycle | 08:06 |
| YanXing_an | little time left | 08:06 |
| gongysh | #topic bp | 08:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bp (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:06 | |
| gongysh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579724/ | 08:07 |
| gongysh | blueprint shared-barbican-secret | 08:07 |
| gongysh | this is a blocker bp for another bp | 08:07 |
| gongysh | so please finish it asap. | 08:08 |
| Guest63697 | o/ | 08:08 |
| dkushwaha | YanXing_an, you started coding part also? | 08:09 |
| Guest63697 | o/ | 08:09 |
| YanXing_an | yeah, Li JIale have committed a draft patch, he will update it later | 08:09 |
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| gongysh | YanXing_an, thanks | 08:09 |
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| dkushwaha | ok, will review it | 08:10 |
| gongysh | phuoc_ hi | 08:10 |
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| phuoc_ | hi gongysh | 08:10 |
| gongysh | do you have some thing to talk? | 08:10 |
| AndreyS | Hello, could we discuss https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/tosca-csar-mgmt-driver | 08:10 |
| phuoc_ | I updated NS patch | 08:11 |
| phuoc_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558166 | 08:11 |
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| phuoc_ | That extends dkushwaha and tbh patch, I think it is good to review now | 08:11 |
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| phuoc_ | For hybrid SFC spec, I meet some bugs | 08:11 |
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| phuoc_ | I will solve problem and upload code asap | 08:12 |
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| gongysh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/548109/ | 08:13 |
| gongysh | phuoc_, do you have plan to update it? | 08:13 |
| gongysh | or do we still need this patch? | 08:13 |
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| phuoc_ | gonysh, yes but I meet some bugs with this patch | 08:14 |
| caobin | o/ | 08:14 |
| phuoc_ | I will update new patch soon | 08:14 |
| gongysh | phuoc_, ok | 08:15 |
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| gongysh | phuoc_, for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558166, add one user guide for it please. | 08:15 |
| phuoc_ | gongysh, sure I will make a new patch for document about that | 08:16 |
| gongysh | #topic bugs | 08:16 |
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| YanXing_an | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579620/ this is | 08:16 |
| caobin | nice | 08:16 |
| YanXing_an | the spec for shared vim | 08:17 |
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| gongysh | YanXing_an, thanks | 08:17 |
| gongysh | I will have a look asap. | 08:17 |
| gongysh | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1778698 | 08:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1778698 in tacker "stestr for functional test is running unit test" [Critical,New] - Assigned to Nguyen Hai (nguyentrihai93) | 08:18 |
| gongysh | this is a critical bug for CI tests. | 08:18 |
| gongysh | it runs unit tests for functional test jobs. | 08:18 |
| gongysh | nguyenhai_, hi | 08:19 |
| YanXing_an | gongysh: In previous meeting, i propose to use barbican secret acl to support shared vim, but now i think the method one is better, Li JIale and i will both look into these methods | 08:19 |
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| gongysh | YanXing_an, thanks for it. | 08:19 |
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| gongysh | so we have to fix this bug first before other functional patches can be merged. | 08:20 |
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| joxyuki_ | gongysh, my colleague will propose a patch to fix the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1778698 | 08:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1778698 in tacker "stestr for functional test is running unit test" [Critical,New] - Assigned to Nguyen Hai (nguyentrihai93) | 08:20 |
| gongysh | joxyuki_, where is the url? | 08:21 |
| joxyuki_ | gongysh, not yet, will soon upload. | 08:22 |
| gongysh | joxyuki_, fine. thanks | 08:22 |
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| gongysh | #topic open discussion | 08:23 |
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| gongysh | AndreyS, hi | 08:23 |
| AndreyS | Hi, I have updated BP with a link for spec | 08:24 |
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| gongysh | akozhevnikov, hi | 08:24 |
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| gongysh | please do it according to contribution guide. | 08:25 |
| caobin | Li_Jiale, hi | 08:25 |
| gongysh | AndreyS, please take https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579620/ for an example. | 08:25 |
| gongysh | or many other bps at https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tacker-specs | 08:26 |
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| YanXing_an | caobin, hi, welcome to tacker :) | 08:26 |
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| dkushwaha | AndreyS, have you submitted the spec? if so, link please | 08:27 |
| nguyenhai_ | thanks <joxyuki_> | 08:27 |
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| AndreyS | gongysh, which branch I shoul use for commit of the spec? | 08:27 |
| gongysh | master | 08:28 |
| AndreyS | rocky? | 08:28 |
| gongysh | yes, put it into rocky dir | 08:28 |
| AndreyS | thanks, will do it, but is it possible to discuss existing draft now? | 08:30 |
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| gongysh | #topic berlin summit | 08:31 |
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| gongysh | berlin summit is calling for presentation | 08:31 |
| gongysh | do you have any idea for tacker? | 08:31 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, phuoc_ ? | 08:32 |
| gongysh | YanXing_an ? | 08:32 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, yea, i have to submit talks, but not prepared it yet | 08:32 |
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| YanXing_an | gongysh, will think about it | 08:33 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, will share my topic in this week | 08:33 |
| keiko | Is anyone going to Denver for PTG? | 08:33 |
| phuoc_ | I think we can have a talk about network service :) | 08:33 |
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| dkushwaha | phuoc_, +1 | 08:34 |
| gongysh | phuoc_, fine | 08:34 |
| phuoc_ | dkushwaha, I extend you and tbh work before, so I think we can finish network service spec soon | 08:35 |
| gongysh | keiko, no, I am not there. | 08:35 |
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| gongysh | dkushwaha, phuoc_ , lets focus on the NS spec. | 08:36 |
| keiko | I see. anyone? | 08:36 |
| phuoc_ | AndreyS, I think we can discuss about your topic in Tacker channel | 08:36 |
| dkushwaha | phuoc_, sure, i will | 08:36 |
| gongysh | ok | 08:37 |
| gongysh | anything else? | 08:37 |
| gongysh | ok, have a good day. | 08:38 |
| gongysh | #endmeeting | 08:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 3 08:39:02 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-07-03-08.00.html | 08:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-07-03-08.00.txt | 08:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-07-03-08.00.log.html | 08:39 |
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| phuoc_ | Andrey, you can join #tacker channel | 08:42 |
| phuoc_ | ^ | 08:42 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting networking | 13:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 3 13:59:51 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 13:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 13:59 |
| annp_ | hi | 13:59 |
| manjeets_ | hi | 13:59 |
| njohnston | o/ | 14:00 |
| hongbin | o/ | 14:00 |
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| mlavalle | Hi there! | 14:01 |
| rubasov | o/ | 14:01 |
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| cliffparsons | hi there | 14:01 |
| haleyb | hi | 14:01 |
| mlavalle | manjeets_, njohnston: more people in the US than I expected ;-) | 14:01 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: also | 14:01 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 14:02 |
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| mlavalle | The Rocky-3 milestone is fast approaching. It is less than 3 weeks away: July 23 - 27 | 14:03 |
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| mlavalle | The call for presentations for the Berlin Summit will be open until July 17th | 14:04 |
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| mlavalle | I look forward to many nice submissions from the Neutron team | 14:04 |
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| mlavalle | Any other announcements? | 14:04 |
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| boden | mlavalle I think the release candidate for client libs (including neutron-lib) is July 19th, no? | 14:04 |
| boden | finalized by the 26th | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | Yes | 14:05 |
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| boden | ok so that date is rapidly approaching, if there are any things we want in neutron-lib for Rocky, it seems now is the time :) | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | Thanks for the reminder boden | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | I'll add it to the agenda in wiki | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | #topic Blueprints | 14:07 |
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| mlavalle | These are the blueprints we are targeting for Rocky 3: | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/rocky-3 | 14:08 |
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| mlavalle | any updates on blueprints? | 14:08 |
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| boden | for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-lib-decouple-db I’ll reiterate that isn’t realistic for Rocky anymore | 14:09 |
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| boden | but if we can try to land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/565593/ it will allow some more consumption patches to start flowing | 14:09 |
| mlavalle | boden: I will review it today | 14:10 |
| boden | thanks mlavalle | 14:10 |
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| mlavalle | rubasov: any updates on bandwidth based scheduling? | 14:10 |
| rubasov | for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/strict-minimum-bandwidth-support I'd like to call the attention/judgement of reviewers familiar with hierarchical port binding use cases to this change: https://review.openstack.org/574783 | 14:10 |
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| mlavalle | you read my mind ;-) | 14:11 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: :-) | 14:11 |
| rubasov | also I hope to upload more non-wip patches this week | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | I assume that tempest-full-py3 is not related to the change, right? | 14:12 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: yep, that's unrelated | 14:12 |
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| mlavalle | ok, cool. I will take a look between today and tomorrow | 14:12 |
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| rubasov | mlavalle: thank you | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | and encourage others to do the same | 14:13 |
| lajoskatona_ | mlavalle/rubasov: I am back now so after my jetleg I start working again ;) | 14:13 |
| rubasov | lajoskatona_: welcome back | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | nice to see you back, lajoskatona_ | 14:13 |
| amotoki | hi sorry for late.... | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | In regards to multiple port bindings, the entire series is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/live-migration-portbinding+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 14:14 |
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| mlavalle | I addressed some comments from haleyb and mriedem in the patch that originates the series: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414251/ | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | and rebased the entire series yesterday | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | I have some re-checking to do but as soon as zuul returns green in all of them, I think the series is good to go | 14:16 |
| mlavalle | please take a look when you have a chance | 14:16 |
| mlavalle | Thanks to haleyb, manjeets for revieweing the series of port forwarding: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/port_forwarding+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 14:18 |
| mlavalle | njohnston also reviewed the neutron-lib patch. thanks | 14:18 |
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| mlavalle | please keep it up | 14:18 |
| mlavalle | I will go over the series today and tomorrow | 14:19 |
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| mlavalle | annp_: do you want to talk about wsgi server? | 14:20 |
| annp_ | mlavalle, thanks. | 14:20 |
| annp_ | Thanks slawek, hongbin and Manjee for your great reviewing. I’ve just update new patch-set to address your comments. Could you please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555608/ | 14:20 |
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| manjeets__ | ack | 14:21 |
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| annp_ | regarding to fwaas rpc timeout, firewall plugin tried to initialize rpc listener. I think fwaas rpc listener should be served by neutron-rpc-server worker. I’ve just pushed a patch to fix that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579433/. Now, I’m waiting feedback from zigo about the result of the test. | 14:21 |
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| annp_ | :) | 14:21 |
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| njohnston | nice +1 | 14:21 |
| zigo | o/ | 14:21 |
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| zigo | I'm sorry but I couldn't work on it today. | 14:21 |
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| zigo | I'll check on it tomorrow. | 14:21 |
| zigo | Thanks a lot annp ! | 14:21 |
| annp_ | zigo, No problem! :) I'm waiting you. :) | 14:22 |
| annp_ | Regards to Neutron WSGI integration in devstack https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473718/ All tempest test was passed, however there are neutron-grenade gate still failed by cinder removing volume. | 14:22 |
| amotoki | annp_: do we have similar pattern in other service plugins other than fwaas? | 14:22 |
| annp_ | amotoki, I've checked metering plugin. | 14:23 |
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| annp_ | amotoki, metering plugin or l3_router_plugin initilize rpc listener by rpc worker. | 14:24 |
| amotoki | annp_: thanks. it sounds nice. | 14:24 |
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| annp_ | amotoki, yeah! :) | 14:25 |
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| annp_ | amotoki, do you have any idea related to neutron wsgi integration issue? | 14:25 |
| mlavalle | ok, thanks annp for your hard work. and thanks to zigo for all his support | 14:26 |
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| annp_ | mlavalle, thanks :) | 14:26 |
| zigo | One more thing: if that works, would it be hard to do a backport of the patch to Queens? | 14:26 |
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| mlavalle | zigo: of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579433/? | 14:27 |
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| amotoki | perhaps zigo is thinking all wsgi patches each of which is small. | 14:29 |
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| mlavalle | ack, haleyb let's take a look at it after the meeting | 14:30 |
| zigo | Well, both? :) | 14:30 |
| zigo | WSGI support was supposed to be a Queens release goal ... :P | 14:30 |
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| mlavalle | yeap, I realize that | 14:30 |
| mlavalle | I knew you would bring it up ;-) | 14:30 |
| zigo | Sorry, I'm a pain ... :P | 14:31 |
| mlavalle | zigo: you are not. you are very helpful. just kidding | 14:31 |
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| zigo | I got something else that I want to bring up, not sure if that's the time. | 14:31 |
| mlavalle | go ahead | 14:31 |
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| mlavalle | mhhh, zigo, let's talk about it at the end of the meeting | 14:33 |
| mlavalle | #topic Community Goals | 14:33 |
| zigo | Ok. | 14:33 |
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| annp_ | mlavalle, that's all for WSGI. | 14:33 |
| mlavalle | amotoki do you want to talk about policy in code? | 14:33 |
| annp_ | please go ahead. | 14:33 |
| mlavalle | annp_: Thanks! | 14:33 |
| amotoki | sorry for late progress in policy-in-code. I succeeded to block all meetings this wed and fri. perhaps it will be two whole day works I guess. | 14:34 |
| mlavalle | is there anything we can do to help? | 14:34 |
| amotoki | patches will consist of neutron-lib policy migration and policy-in-code. | 14:35 |
| amotoki | I will resolve merge conflict this week and testing will be helpful | 14:35 |
| mlavalle | thanks for the update amotoki. looking forward to those patches | 14:36 |
| amotoki | (1) neutron-lib policy, (2) remove policy.py from neutron (3) policy conversion in neutron, (4) policy convesion in subprojects (ike fwaas, dynamic-routing) | 14:36 |
| amotoki | (1)-(3) would be straightforward and I am refreshing my memory | 14:37 |
| amotoki | (4) might need some help | 14:37 |
| mlavalle | ok, let us know how we can help | 14:37 |
| amotoki | I will send a mail to summarize patches once I push them | 14:37 |
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| amotoki | the lib freeze deadline is in my mind. | 14:38 |
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| -amotoki- wishese he won't be a liar | 14:39 | |
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| mlavalle | I also want to remind the team that we have this etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/py3-neutron-pike | 14:40 |
| mlavalle | for py35 support tasks | 14:40 |
| mlavalle | please pick up some to help us moving in this goal | 14:40 |
| amotoki | is it covered by the CI meeting? | 14:41 |
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| njohnston | mlavalle: reading the py35 etherpad, it is not clear where the available items to work are. Is that the "Old Failure categories" section? | 14:42 |
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| amotoki | njohnston: perhaps we need to check how they work now again. | 14:43 |
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| mlavalle | yeah | 14:43 |
| * zigo wrote everything in a buffer and is ready for end of meeting topics ... | 14:44 | |
| mlavalle | njohnston: we probably need to re-order that etherpad | 14:44 |
| amotoki | "python3 first" will be one of the Stein goal, so we need to refresh the etherpad | 14:44 |
| njohnston | +1 | 14:44 |
| mlavalle | I will take a look over the next few days | 14:45 |
| mlavalle | njohnston: are you interested in helping with that? | 14:45 |
| njohnston | I wanted to see if I could pitch in, yes | 14:45 |
| mlavalle | ok, I'll take a look this week and ping you in channel | 14:46 |
| mlavalle | #topic neutron-lib | 14:46 |
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| mlavalle | boden: anything on neutron-lib? | 14:46 |
| boden | a few things, I will try to be brief | 14:46 |
| boden | we releases neutron-lib 1.17.0 last week FYI.. if you want to use it bump your requirements and lower-constraints | 14:47 |
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| boden | a friendly reminder that many networking projects are not fully setup for zuul v3 and local testing: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131801.html | 14:47 |
| boden | ^ causes friction when trying to land neutron-lib patches, os if you get a chance please have a looksee | 14:48 |
| amotoki | what you mean by "not fully setup for zuul v3" ? | 14:49 |
| boden | another reminder that if your networking project wants to stay “Current” and receive neutron-lib patches that we please ask to help land them as mentioned in http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131841.html | 14:49 |
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| boden | amotoki pls see email and related link | 14:49 |
| manjeets_ | boden for 1.17.0 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/577245/ | 14:49 |
| boden | its in detail tehre | 14:49 |
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| boden | manjeets_ ack | 14:49 |
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| amotoki | boden: thanks. perhaps networking projects and horizon plugins have same problem | 14:49 |
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| boden | amotoki yes this is about the networking projects in general | 14:50 |
| njohnston | boden: I was wondering, was there ever a solution for projects that do "from neutron.tests import base"? ISTR that was on the list of "not sure how to solve that" issues a while back. | 14:50 |
| boden | amotoki I hope the etherpad linked in is helpful, and I think it outlines the “situation”, but if not feel free to ping me | 14:50 |
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| amotoki | boden: yes, that is totally helpful. as a quick look I am in the same page. | 14:51 |
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| mlavalle | ok, let's move on | 14:52 |
| boden | njohnston we have a base test class in neutron-lib, tho I don’t know that it’s fully compatible yet | 14:52 |
| mlavalle | #topic CLI / SDK | 14:52 |
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| mlavalle | amotoki: anything on this topic? | 14:52 |
| amotoki | I will look thru client stuffs next week after policy-in-code. | 14:52 |
| mlavalle | ok, thanks | 14:53 |
| amotoki | client freeze wil be after the lib freeze, so we have time. | 14:53 |
| amotoki | on SDK, we don't have much plan in Rocky | 14:53 |
| amotoki | that's all from me | 14:53 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open Agenda | 14:53 |
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| mlavalle | zigo: please go on | 14:53 |
| zigo | In neutron/agent/l3/dvr_local_router.py, there's the function _set_subnet_arp_info() called: | 14:54 |
| zigo | 1/ Each time l3 is restarted | 14:54 |
| zigo | 2/ Each time an interface of a VM is added to a compute if no other VM of that tenant was there | 14:54 |
| zigo | Problem is, in our use case in Infomaniak, we have 2000 VM, most of then in a single tenant. The result is, this operation takes about 15 minutes, with more than 4200 call to "neutron-rootwrap ip neight add" : one call per IP & MAC association. This is just horrible for a customer to wait for 15 minutes for its VM to be up, especially that it establishes L2 peers (east-west traffic) before any north-bound connectivity | 14:54 |
| zigo | work is done. | 14:54 |
| zigo | Many times, the call is even not needed ("ip neigh show" shows it's most of the time already done and not needed). | 14:54 |
| zigo | So my question is: what do you think would be the best strategy to optimize this, having in mind that more than half of this time is spent in invoking neutron-rootwrap. | 14:54 |
| zigo | I thought about using the batch mode for the ip command. | 14:55 |
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| zigo | Like, write a file, call once ... | 14:55 |
| zigo | That, and switching to oslo.privsep. | 14:56 |
| zigo | Good ideas or not? | 14:56 |
| mlavalle | zigo: seems ok to me in principle. | 14:57 |
| mlavalle | would you mind filiung a bug so we can take it from there | 14:57 |
| zigo | Ok, I'll try to come with a patch then. | 14:57 |
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| zigo | Will do. | 14:57 |
| mlavalle | we can discuss it in the L3 meting, that takes place on Thursday at 15000 UTC | 14:58 |
| zigo | IMO, it's best if I try, because it's kind of not easy to reproduce the issue with thousands of VMs. | 14:58 |
| zigo | Oh ok, thanks. | 14:58 |
| mlavalle | oh, I know | 14:58 |
| mlavalle | the hard part is to reproduce the situation | 14:58 |
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| mlavalle | ok, thanks for attending | 14:59 |
| amotoki | it would be super helpful if we can emulate such situation | 14:59 |
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| mlavalle | talk to you next week | 14:59 |
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| manjeets_ | see you guys ! | 14:59 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 3 14:59:42 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2018/networking.2018-07-03-13.59.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2018/networking.2018-07-03-13.59.txt | 14:59 |
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| njohnston | \o | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2018/networking.2018-07-03-13.59.log.html | 14:59 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 15:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 3 15:05:43 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 15:05 |
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| rubasov | o/ | 15:06 |
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| mlavalle | hey rubasov | 15:06 |
| rubasov | hello mlavalle | 15:06 |
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| mlavalle | so slaweq is away on vacation | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | this week end next | 15:07 |
| rubasov | good for him | 15:07 |
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| mlavalle | #topic RFEs | 15:08 |
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| mlavalle | We have agenda here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_qos_meeting_chair | 15:09 |
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| mlavalle | First RFE is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1727578 | 15:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1727578 in neutron "[RFE]Support apply qos policy in VPN service" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 15:10 |
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| mlavalle | We have a WIP patch here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558986/ | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | Last Friday I sent an email to the author asking him to cleanup the zuul results | 15:11 |
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| mlavalle | as soon as he does that, I will ask this team and the VPNaaS guys to take a look | 15:12 |
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| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1578989 | 15:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Bence Romsics (bence-romsics) | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | rubasov: is there anything you want to say on this RFE? | 15:14 |
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| rubasov | mlavalle: the binding patch has the new patch set implementing your undo-last-level-redo-bind idea: https://review.openstack.org/574783 | 15:14 |
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| mlavalle | hopefully it will be considered the team's idea ;-)\ | 15:15 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: I'm working with the WIP patch of reporting placement info in agent heartbeat | 15:15 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: we had a nice discussion with Hongbin Lu already | 15:16 |
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| mlavalle | what's the url? | 15:16 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: and I think we reached a similar conclusion as with you | 15:16 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: in the review | 15:16 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: in this: https://review.openstack.org/574783 | 15:16 |
| hongbin | o/ | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | ah ok | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | mhhh hongbin.... he is a trouble maker ;-) | 15:17 |
| hongbin | lol | 15:17 |
| rubasov | he's here so he can correct me :-) | 15:17 |
| hongbin | i somehow think each driver should claim themselves if they are going to support allocated | 15:18 |
| hongbin | if they claim unsupported, neutron can handle it better (i.e. giving a meaningful exception message or something else) | 15:19 |
| hongbin | however, i don't have strong opinion on that | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | I'll have to ctach up with the conversation in the review | 15:19 |
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| mlavalle | I have to clarify what my approach in dealing with the binding process: | 15:20 |
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| mlavalle | it is so fundamental to Neutron, that I want to touch it as little as possible | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | I am not saying we should never do it | 15:21 |
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| rubasov | hongbin: I basically agree, I have only ony reservation. That is: IMHO no driver can make decision about the "path". | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | but we better have a very strong reason to do it | 15:21 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: I fully support that and I'm trying hard to make the smallest possible dent on it | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | cool | 15:22 |
| hongbin | mlavalle: +1 | 15:22 |
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| hongbin | rubasov: sure, i have no problem for the 'path' thing, if it cannot be decided, then it is fine | 15:22 |
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| mlavalle | thanks for taking a hongbin | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | taking a look^^^^ | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | your point of view is much appreciated | 15:23 |
| rubasov | hongbin: yep, thanks a lot | 15:23 |
| hongbin | my pleasure | 15:23 |
| rubasov | hongbin: it really helps | 15:23 |
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| rubasov | regarding the agent reporting patch I have some code on my disk not uploaded as a new patch set yet | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | ahh, I was about to ask | 15:24 |
| rubasov | I'm contemplating if it's a good idea to put the server-to-placement reporting code into a service plugin | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | so it will be coming over the next few days | 15:24 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: yep | 15:24 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: I also read NovaSegmentNotifier and I intend to do something similar | 15:26 |
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| mlavalle | cool. that way I will be familiar with the approach ;-) | 15:26 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: and that's all now | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | it's becoming a pattern. last week we merged a similar approach to handle routes for subnets in roured networks | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | rubasov: thanks very much for the update and the hard work | 15:27 |
| rubasov | thank you guys | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | Next RFE in the list is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1757044 | 15:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1757044 in neutron "[RFE] neutron L3 router gateway IP QoS" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | We've been waiting for the submitter to respond a question | 15:29 |
| rubasov | and I'm sorry but I'll have to drop off early today too (to get to a class of mine) | 15:29 |
| mlavalle | after we discussed the RFE in the drivers meeting | 15:29 |
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| mlavalle | I will probably reach out to the submitter personally | 15:29 |
| mlavalle | rubasov: no problem. thanks | 15:29 |
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| mlavalle | finally, we have https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1708460 | 15:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1708460 in neutron " [RFE] Reaction to network congestion for qos" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Fouad Benamrane (ftreqah) | 15:30 |
| rubasov | bye | 15:30 |
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| mlavalle | for which we have a spce: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445762/ | 15:30 |
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| mlavalle | thanks for njohnston to take a look | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | reedip has responded yet | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | I will go over it today or tomorrow | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | leave my comments and wait for his response | 15:31 |
| * njohnston is lurking | 15:32 | |
| mlavalle | I know you are ;-) | 15:32 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:33 |
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| mlavalle | We have one bug report | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1776160 | 15:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1776160 in neutron "'burst' does not take effect for neutron egress qos bindlimit by ovs" [Undecided,New] | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | it doesn't seem it has properly been triaged | 15:34 |
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| mlavalle | Take a look if you have some bandwidth | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open Agenda | 15:35 |
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| mlavalle | Any other topics we should discuss today? | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | ok, thanks for attending | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 3 15:35:52 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2018/neutron_qos.2018-07-03-15.05.html | 15:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2018/neutron_qos.2018-07-03-15.05.txt | 15:35 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 3 16:00:30 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:00 |
| njohnston | Not sure how many people we will have for this since slaweq sent out a cancellation: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131917.html | 16:00 |
| mlavalle | njohnston: ok, I opened it becuase i missed the message | 16:01 |
| mlavalle | so let's skip it this week | 16:01 |
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| mlavalle | thanks njohnston ! | 16:01 |
| * njohnston has your back :-) | 16:01 | |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-07-03-16.00.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-07-03-16.00.txt | 16:01 |
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| clarkb | Hello infra. Anyone here for the meeting? | 18:59 |
| corvus | o/ | 18:59 |
| clarkb | We'll get started in a couple minutes as people wander in | 18:59 |
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| fungi | ohai | 19:01 |
| ianw | o/ | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 3 19:01:13 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
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| clarkb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
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| mordred | o/ | 19:01 |
| clarkb | Tomorrow is a US holiday. I'll be afk all day and then doing followup holidaying on thursday as well. | 19:02 |
| clarkb | Fungi and I are trveling next week as well | 19:02 |
| fungi | i'll be around some tomorrow, but keeping an eye on the smoker will be my priority | 19:02 |
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| fungi | yeah, i'm travelling monday through friday next week | 19:03 |
| fungi | and then i'm disappearing for a couple weeks starting the following wednesday | 19:03 |
| clarkb | That means we will need a volunteer to run the infra meeting that isn't Fungi or myself. | 19:03 |
| fungi | for my first actual vacation in i can't remember how long. a couple years anyway | 19:03 |
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| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:04 |
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| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-06-26-19.01.txt Minutes from last meeting | 19:04 |
| ianw | i will also be on PTO a few days next week, including my wednesday when meeting is sorry | 19:04 |
| clarkb | ianw: no worries | 19:05 |
| clarkb | We had a collective action to review mordreds spec | 19:05 |
| clarkb | why don't we just jump ahead to that | 19:05 |
| clarkb | #topic Specs approval | 19:05 |
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| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/565550/ config mgmt and containers | 19:05 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 19:05 |
| * mordred wrote some words | 19:05 | |
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| clarkb | I've reviewed it. I personally like the incremental approach it describes | 19:05 |
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| mordred | corvus: I updated it a little since last you reviewed/voted | 19:06 |
| clarkb | have others had a chance to review it as well? and if so how do we feel about continuing to push on it? is it ready to be put up for approval? | 19:06 |
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| corvus | mordred: oh cool -- enough i should re-review? | 19:06 |
| cmurphy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449933/ is still there though it's pretty close to done at this point | 19:06 |
| mordred | corvus: it should be a quick re-review | 19:06 |
| corvus | cool, will do today | 19:07 |
| clarkb | mordred: if you spec doesn't have a "this is how to puppet 4" link in it yet (I don't recall) we should add one to ^ | 19:07 |
| clarkb | and probably merge those together | 19:08 |
| mordred | I *think* I copied in the relevant text from the puppet4 spec | 19:08 |
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| clarkb | ah ok so truly a merged/converged spec. cmurphy are you comfortable with tracking that work as part of the larger scope spec? | 19:08 |
| mordred | it definitely has the work items - and cmurphy as a co-author | 19:08 |
| cmurphy | oh sure, I will look at it | 19:09 |
| mordred | I didn't change any of cmurphy's words | 19:09 |
| mordred | or, at least not many | 19:09 |
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| clarkb | As a rough poll how many have managed to review it? I think corvus and myself and mordred is auther I know about so far. Do we need more time to review it? <- cmurphy fungi ianw. pabelanger this might be one you'd have some interest in looking at as well? | 19:10 |
| fungi | i, er, did pull it up to start reading a couple days ago but... | 19:11 |
| cmurphy | I haven't looked yet, will do so | 19:11 |
| clarkb | ok I don't think we are ready to put it up for approval this week then. Considering the amount of travel and time off between now and next week do we want to aim for week after? that should give us plenty of time | 19:11 |
| fungi | it's the most recent non-emergency review in my gertty stack | 19:11 |
| mordred | wfm | 19:12 |
| clarkb | July 17 | 19:12 |
| mordred | also - feel free to poke me with questions or whatnot | 19:12 |
| Shrews | mordred: considering we have a zuul spec suggesting the use k8s, do we want to reconsider using docker for that (just for merging of brain space) | 19:13 |
| clarkb | Shrews: the spec as is is largely a precursor to being able to use k8s | 19:13 |
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| clarkb | by getting the image management done first | 19:13 |
| clarkb | (I think the zuul work is compatible with this spec given that) | 19:14 |
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| mordred | yes, this is true - there's also some words in the more recent version that talk about cri-o+k8s briefly and on docker as a temporary expedience | 19:14 |
| Shrews | nod. not being familiar with k8s, wasn't sure if there was overlap | 19:15 |
| corvus | mordred sometimes calls k8s a 'container orchestration engine (coe)' in the spec and suggests that we could potentially use that later after what clarkb says | 19:15 |
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| corvus | (so, sometimes it heps to read coe as k8s) | 19:15 |
| corvus | (or openshift or...) | 19:16 |
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| fungi | shiftynetes | 19:16 |
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| clarkb | I'll send out an email to the infra list asking fo rreviews as well with a plan to put it up for approval on the 17th (two weeks from today) | 19:17 |
| clarkb | any other questions or feedback for mordred before we move on? | 19:17 |
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| mordred | also - if anyone gets bored ... | 19:18 |
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| mordred | grab the openstack/pbrx repo and try the 'pbrx build-images' command out | 19:18 |
| mordred | it currently would like some of the bindep depends marked with a 'build' tag (since install, build and test are all potentially different things) | 19:19 |
| clarkb | mordred: do the repos need to be preconfigured to make that work? or should it work on any pbr using setup.py project? | 19:19 |
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| mordred | it should work for any pbr+bindep repo | 19:19 |
| mordred | with some caveats about maybe some extra tags in bindep.txt - or we might want to consider what we're communicating via bindep ... | 19:19 |
| mordred | but I'd love feedback from folks on that - so we can maybe write up some docs on how to use it , etc | 19:20 |
| mordred | or that it's a stupid idea and we should do something completely different | 19:20 |
| corvus | can we make zuul jobs that use it to build zuul images yet? | 19:20 |
| mordred | sure | 19:20 |
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| corvus | cool, that might be fun to play with, and is a start on the spec work too | 19:21 |
| mordred | I mean - those jobs would likely want to install it from source at the moment | 19:21 |
| clarkb | semi related to that there is a bindep change up to add alpine support | 19:21 |
| clarkb | swift is pushing on that, but could be useful in the combination of docker images + pbr + bindep | 19:21 |
| mordred | cool. that would allow us to use the python:slim base image instead of the python base image | 19:21 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579056/ alpine support in bindep | 19:22 |
| clarkb | I've reviewed an older patchset and should rereview it | 19:22 |
| mordred | same here | 19:22 |
| corvus | alpine's packages manager is called apk? that's not confusing at all. | 19:23 |
| clarkb | corvus: yes and yes | 19:23 |
| mordred | s/python:slim/python:alpine/ | 19:23 |
| fungi | apk is going to be my new apt typo | 19:23 |
| mordred | python:slim is also fine - and is debian based | 19:23 |
| mordred | it's the default right now | 19:23 |
| corvus | we don't have alpine images in nodepool do weL | 19:24 |
| corvus | ? | 19:24 |
| clarkb | corvus: correct | 19:24 |
| mordred | not to my knowledge - but we don't need them if we make alpine container images :) | 19:24 |
| clarkb | in any case reviewers should check that the version parsing in particular is correct (I'm not convinced yet and will focus on that myself) | 19:25 |
| corvus | do we want to make landing that contingent on some kind of real testing? (i'm really asking: what is/should be/ our testing requirements for bindep platforms?) | 19:25 |
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| mordred | corvus: that's an excellent question | 19:25 |
| clarkb | corvus: we've already accepted support for platforms like Arch without "real" testing | 19:25 |
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| clarkb | the unit test framework is fairly robust as long as you have the package manager output correct in the mocks | 19:26 |
| corvus | otoh, i recall lots of gentoo effort going into real testing | 19:26 |
| fungi | and macports or brew or something too, right? | 19:26 |
| clarkb | fungi: yes | 19:26 |
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| clarkb | also we've switched to the distro library for identifying distros which means we have to worry less about that | 19:26 |
| corvus | ok. so the policy is "get the mocks right". wfm. | 19:26 |
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| fungi | so strictly speaking we haven't insisted on automatable testing for every platform implemented, just the ones where we already had those platforms available in nodepool | 19:27 |
| corvus | (i mean nodepool's policy is mostly "get the fakes right", with a few key things real-tested) | 19:27 |
| fungi | certainly if we _did_ get alpine-based vm or container images, we'd want to add a bindep job | 19:27 |
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| clarkb | Last call for spec related items | 19:28 |
| mordred | also - if we make a zuul job to build alpine-based zuul container images using pbrx - we could totaly run that job on bindep changes too :) | 19:28 |
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| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:29 |
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| clarkb | The puppet 4 work is related to the previously mentioned spec and so will get added as a priority effort soon (I expect). Considering that it would be helpful if others can review topic:puppet-4 | 19:30 |
| clarkb | I'm happy to be the babysitter of those changes if we can get reviews. Feel free to ping me if you are +2 but can't watch it | 19:30 |
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| clarkb | fungi: Any storyboard items for today? | 19:31 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:puppet-4+status:open puppet 4 migration changes | 19:32 |
| fungi | oh, yep, sorry a friend was just dropping off the pork belly for tomorrow | 19:32 |
| fungi | looks like we ended up not having a sb meeting last week | 19:33 |
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| corvus | fungi: good friend | 19:34 |
| clarkb | Now I want pork belly | 19:34 |
| fungi | not much to report, no. fatema (our outreachy intern) could use some help with a sql migration according to channel scrollback | 19:34 |
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| fungi | i'm also still poking at the decoding issue with slashes in project names for the name-based project pages | 19:34 |
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| fungi | not having much luck debugging the api though | 19:35 |
| fungi | and we had a few wishlist items crop up | 19:35 |
| fungi | that's pretty much it | 19:35 |
| clarkb | ok, thanks. Looks like dhellmann was trying to help with the sql migration (thank you!) | 19:35 |
| clarkb | #topic General topics | 19:36 |
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| clarkb | As a followup to winterstack naming. I've been asked if the foundation can take a week or two to get the creative team's input on what we have on the ehterpad. | 19:37 |
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| clarkb | I expect that mid July will be whne we start to push on that again (all the things in mid july I guess) | 19:37 |
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| fungi | also starting to get internal questions from foundation staff on what sorts of things are going to have the option of being whitelabeled | 19:37 |
| fungi | questions ultimately coming from other new pilot project communities via foundation staff liaisons (who are encouraging those communities to get in touch with the infra team more directly if they have actual questions) | 19:38 |
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| fungi | they've been getting pushed to e-mailing actual community infrastructure questions to the openstack-infra@l.o.o ml | 19:39 |
| fungi | so i've been trying to get a little more diligent on watching the moderation queue | 19:39 |
| clarkb | fungi: thanks. | 19:39 |
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| fungi | but if anyone else is interested in pitching in on that, please let me know | 19:39 |
| clarkb | re whitelabeling maybe we should draft up a listing of services and provisional future naming state (I'm happy to put up a first draft list and we can refine from there) | 19:40 |
| clarkb | will probably be useful for us as well as our usres to get a rough idea of what goes where | 19:40 |
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| corvus | yeah, and i think that's a relevant question for existing services/communities too. | 19:40 |
| fungi | that sounds good, i expect most of those would be entries for future specs | 19:40 |
| corvus | i'm very keen to talk more about what our gerrit offering looks like :) | 19:41 |
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| fungi | like, an example which came up earlier today, whitelabeled eavesdrop vhosts filtered to community-specific channel and meeting lists. probably doable but we'd want a spec for that and may also want to make it dependent on the irc bot refactor spec | 19:41 |
| corvus | i'm just not sure we're quite at the point of having gerrit be a productive conversation yet | 19:42 |
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| fungi | and ideally, for some of these services communities want whitelabeled, they'd step forward with people to do the bulk of that work | 19:42 |
| corvus | right. that, like gerrit, is also very difficult to talk about without knowing what winterscale looks like exactly -- do we still care about whitelabling so much if we have a better name? | 19:43 |
| fungi | exactly | 19:43 |
| corvus | (or do we not care so much about a better name because everything will be whitelabeled?) | 19:43 |
| clarkb | in general I've been assuming we don't | 19:43 |
| fungi | a more timely example might be mailman3 | 19:43 |
| fungi | it looks like it has built-in support for whitelabelling the listserv (mailman3) itself and the archiver (hyperkitty), but not for the management webui (postorius). it may be that non-whitelabeled postorius is just fine on a neutral domain name | 19:44 |
| clarkb | in part because I'm selfish and it is less work but also because people seem ok with servies like bitbucket and github operating in a similar manner | 19:44 |
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| mordred | yah - mailing lists seem to be where I'd expect more people to have whitelabel interest | 19:46 |
| clarkb | I'll try to work up a rough draft maybe that we could declare as an ideal with the caveat reality may force changes | 19:46 |
| mordred | once we have a name | 19:46 |
| fungi | thanks clarkb! | 19:46 |
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| clarkb | As an update on packethost we've been told that bad cables have been replaced. John is working to get the MTU situation sorted out as well before we turn it back on again | 19:47 |
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| clarkb | Hopefully we can run jobs there soon | 19:47 |
| fungi | and vexxhost is back in the pool again, right? | 19:47 |
| clarkb | yes vexxhost ipv6 issues got sorted out and I turned it back on again late yesterday | 19:47 |
| fungi | excellent | 19:47 |
| clarkb | #topic project renames | 19:48 |
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| clarkb | Really quickly before we run out of time we have had a couple project renames floated by us. I'm in no position to drive that for a while (just with travel and other commitments). For some reason I'm not finding our release calendar | 19:49 |
| clarkb | there it is , https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html | 19:50 |
| corvus | https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html | 19:50 |
| clarkb | End of this month seems like a possibility | 19:50 |
| corvus | aw can't we do it mid-july like everything else? :) | 19:51 |
| clarkb | boo :P | 19:51 |
| clarkb | lets see where we are at on the 17th and maybe we can do it end of july? | 19:51 |
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| fungi | that would be cool | 19:52 |
| fungi | i know the api sig has been waiting a little while | 19:52 |
| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:52 |
| fungi | and i think tripleo-ci is the only remaining non-infra-team repo in the openstack-infra namespace once release-tools retirement completes | 19:52 |
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| clarkb | #undo | 19:53 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic Open Discussion | 19:53 |
| clarkb | Sorry | 19:53 |
| fungi | that was all i had. no worries | 19:53 |
| clarkb | fungi: also tripleo-ci bumps the renames up to >1 which makes it less painful | 19:53 |
| fungi | yep | 19:53 |
| clarkb | Anyways lets talk about it once we get past the first half of this month | 19:53 |
| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:53 |
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| clarkb | Any now, anything else | 19:53 |
| fungi | i need to go start soaking a bunch of applewood for tomorrow morning | 19:54 |
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| clarkb | I've got to clean out my smoker | 19:55 |
| fungi | brisket? | 19:55 |
| clarkb | ribs | 19:55 |
| clarkb | also going to grill burgers | 19:55 |
| fungi | yessss | 19:55 |
| fungi | i should do some ribs soonish | 19:55 |
| clarkb | seems like that may be it. Enjoy the holiday if it is a holiday in your part of the world. Thanks everyone | 19:56 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 19:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 3 19:57:00 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-07-03-19.01.html | 19:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-07-03-19.01.txt | 19:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-07-03-19.01.log.html | 19:57 |
| corvus | i'm just going to "grill" rather than "bbq" since i'm in the middle of some disruptive kitchen projects at home | 19:57 |
| fungi | thanks clarkb! | 19:57 |
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