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| mattoliverau | First contact SIG meeting time! | 08:00 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | Yay! | 08:00 |
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| cmurphy | o/ | 08:01 |
| mattoliverau | what are we calling the meeting? | 08:01 |
| mattoliverau | I should go look | 08:01 |
| gmann | hi | 08:01 |
| mattoliverau | #startmeeting fc_sig | 08:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 27 08:01:52 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mattoliverau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:01 |
| gmann | fc_sig | 08:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: fc_sig)" | 08:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fc_sig' | 08:01 |
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| mattoliverau | Welcome everyone, and seems I don't need to go ping anyone :) | 08:02 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Off to a good start :) | 08:02 |
| mattoliverau | diablo_rojo_phon: is here, but in an airport so I'll press buttons and make mistakes in her stead :P | 08:02 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Much appreciated :) | 08:02 |
| mattoliverau | the regulars are here so shall we just start? | 08:03 |
| mattoliverau | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/First_Contact_SIG#Meeting_Agenda Meeting Agenda | 08:04 |
| mattoliverau | Lets go then | 08:04 |
| mattoliverau | #topic New Contributor Patches | 08:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "New Contributor Patches (Meeting topic: fc_sig)" | 08:04 | |
| mattoliverau | So who did their homework? | 08:04 |
| mattoliverau | diablo_rojo_phon: you had plenty of plane time, you could have been using gertty ;) | 08:04 |
| * gmann updated the meeting name info on wiki | 08:04 | |
| mattoliverau | gmann: nice work! | 08:05 |
| * diablo_rojo_phon shifts uneasily and doesn't make eye contact with mattoliverau | 08:05 | |
| mattoliverau | lol | 08:05 |
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| gmann | sorry i have not looked on the home work this week | 08:05 |
| gmann | not sure if there is any new things. | 08:05 |
| ianychoi | Hello :) | 08:05 |
| mattoliverau | I had a look, there were a few things, 1 for cinder, so will leave with diablo_rojo_phon :P | 08:06 |
| ianychoi | me did it on Wiki page | 08:06 |
| mattoliverau | ianychoi: o/ welcome | 08:06 |
| ianychoi | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#First_Contact_SIG | 08:06 |
| ianychoi | I added brief explanation on first contact sig in cross project liaisons wiki page | 08:06 |
| gmann | ianychoi: nice | 08:06 |
| mattoliverau | thanks ianychoi | 08:07 |
| ianychoi | mattoliverau, gmann: It's my pleasure :) | 08:07 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I'll check it out :) | 08:07 |
| mattoliverau | A few of the new contributor patches already had reviews, which is good | 08:07 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Thanks ianychoi ! | 08:07 |
| gmann | i just pushed the patch to mention firstcontact sig liaison as dedicated duty - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578306/1 | 08:07 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578306/1 | 08:07 |
| ianychoi | diablo_rojo_phon, you're welcome :) | 08:08 |
| mattoliverau | I took the slogging one, as it's kinda swift related. and I tracked down a slogging dev I met at the last PTG, to get him in on the review | 08:08 |
| gmann | may be both wiki and PTL page is good to remind PTL about allocating the liaison | 08:08 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | Dedication mattoliverau :) | 08:09 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Yeah that would be good gmann | 08:09 |
| mattoliverau | if not, they'll find out when we keep annoying them ;) | 08:09 |
| mattoliverau | I still have a patch or 2 open in a tab.. so will hopefully finish my homework tomorrow | 08:10 |
| mattoliverau | Any else to discuss on the new contributor patches? | 08:10 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Better late than never :) | 08:10 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I don't think so. | 08:10 |
| mattoliverau | *anything else | 08:10 |
| mattoliverau | cools. let's move on | 08:10 |
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| gmann | nothing | 08:11 |
| mattoliverau | #topic ask.openstack.org questions | 08:11 |
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| mattoliverau | This can be quick. I looked and again nothing new. | 08:11 |
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| mattoliverau | it's good we're looking but so far nothing. | 08:12 |
| gmann | yea there is no new query | 08:12 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I forgot to make the etherpad for brainstorming questions to seed it with | 08:12 |
| mattoliverau | diablo_rojo_phon: geesh, what have you been doing? travelling around the world in a small metal tube for most of the last few weeks? | 08:13 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Something like that. | 08:13 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I'll be home for a whole week when I go back- it will also be a US holiday but still. | 08:14 |
| mattoliverau | lol | 08:14 |
| mattoliverau | you need holidays too. | 08:14 |
| gmann | US holiday full week ? | 08:15 |
| mattoliverau | I'll try and take another look around ask.o.o and see if we can find anything better or even if people are asking new contributor questions there | 08:15 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | Not a full week no. A day or two. | 08:15 |
| gmann | ok | 08:16 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Sounds good mattoliverau | 08:16 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | gmann: it's just annoying cause it's smack in the middle of the week. | 08:16 |
| mattoliverau | Unless there's anything else, shall we move on? | 08:17 |
| gmann | yeah, we can move next | 08:17 |
| ianychoi | +1 :) | 08:17 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | We can move on :) | 08:17 |
| mattoliverau | oh, we never talked about new contribitor of the week.. should be do that thing or just move on? | 08:18 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | Methinks we can move on for now.. | 08:19 |
| mattoliverau | great :) | 08:19 |
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| mattoliverau | #topic Reqs for Organisations Contributing to OpenStack | 08:20 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | So how's that going? ;) | 08:21 |
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| mattoliverau | So I'll admit I've failed to submit a patch to the contributor guide.. so my bad. I did think about doing it today, and planned too but got sidetracked with work and support in the swift channel. | 08:21 |
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| mattoliverau | please start complaining at me, making fun of me, and poking me everyday if I don't do it by next meeting :P | 08:22 |
| gmann | :) | 08:23 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | That's alright. It would be good to have before the 9th of July so I can show it at the staff offsite. | 08:23 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I can set a due date mattoliverau. Would that help? | 08:23 |
| mattoliverau | it might actually :P 9th of july is good. But i'll try and get it up in a few days. it doesn't have to be a large patch just a place holder. | 08:24 |
| mattoliverau | cool, so that's on me. let's move on | 08:25 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Sounds good :) Will keep an eye out. | 08:25 |
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| mattoliverau | #action mattoliverau to push the placeholder patch for the Organisations Contributing to OpenStack doc to the contributor guide | 08:26 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Nice. | 08:26 |
| mattoliverau | #topic Project Liaisons | 08:26 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | Official now. | 08:26 |
| mattoliverau | yup, look at me being or fancy | 08:26 |
| mattoliverau | the powers going to me head :P | 08:26 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I also did not send this email yet telling them they are on the hook yet.. | 08:26 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Hahaha | 08:27 |
| mattoliverau | \o/ we're winning | 08:27 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I always think about using the action command and then I do not. | 08:27 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | But should. | 08:27 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I will send this email tomorrow. | 08:27 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Or Friday at the latest. | 08:27 |
| mattoliverau | #action diablo_rojo_phon to send the follow up email to tell PTLs they're on the hook for being the FC liaisons | 08:28 |
| mattoliverau | ^ now it's not just me :P | 08:28 |
| mattoliverau | cool. I'll race you | 08:28 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Oh jeez. Okay. | 08:28 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | What's the loser gotta do? | 08:29 |
| mattoliverau | action item race | 08:29 |
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| mattoliverau | no idea, feel shamed, but know we'll still love em :) | 08:29 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | Daww | 08:30 |
| mattoliverau | If anyone knows any ptl's timezones and they aren't filled in on the list on our wiki page, please make it so :) | 08:30 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | On this topic we should review gmann's patch | 08:30 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | That's too! | 08:30 |
| mattoliverau | oh yeah | 08:30 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | *that | 08:30 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578306/1 | 08:31 |
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| mattoliverau | #action everyone to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578306 | 08:31 |
| mattoliverau | now everyone can join in | 08:31 |
| gmann | :) | 08:32 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | Thanks again for that gmann | 08:32 |
| gmann | np! | 08:32 |
| mattoliverau | That's all that's on the adjenda so. let's move to open discussion | 08:32 |
| mattoliverau | #topic open discussion | 08:32 |
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| mattoliverau | anything else to bring up or discuss today? | 08:32 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Is there anything we want to submit to the CFP? | 08:33 |
| mattoliverau | oh good thinking | 08:33 |
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| mattoliverau | Shall we attempt to get ops involved again? (and also try and do that thing at the PTG)? | 08:34 |
| gmann | nice idea. PTG is good place to get them involve | 08:34 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Definitely already have a day for us at the ptg. | 08:34 |
| mattoliverau | nice | 08:34 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | The summit thing I can submit forum things once those open. | 08:35 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | But for regular presentations the CFP closes the 17th | 08:35 |
| mattoliverau | though a reminder that I can't make the PTG as I' | 08:35 |
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| mattoliverau | I'll be having my second child around then | 08:35 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Boo | 08:36 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | We'll have to do a hangout to get you there. | 08:36 |
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| gmann | also how about submitting a presentation sessions idea also to give overview of FirstContact SIG and how people can take help from us ... how to get new people involve and how new people can get involved | 08:36 |
| cmurphy | do we want to talk about the stats gaming problem and how to address it? http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-tc/%23openstack-tc.2018-06-26.log.html#t2018-06-26T13:49:11 | 08:36 |
| mattoliverau | but cmurphy, gmann, diablo_rojo_phon and ianychoi I hope y'all be there and I know you guys will be awesome :) | 08:36 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | To clarify: boo on not coming. Congratulations on the second child :) | 08:36 |
| mattoliverau | well when she's born, I wont be sleeping again, so timezone wont be an issue :P | 08:37 |
| cmurphy | yay babies ^.^ | 08:37 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | cmurphy: sure | 08:37 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Something we should be educating new contributors on. | 08:37 |
| mattoliverau | gmann: that's a good idea. | 08:37 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I think in general we just avoid talking about stackalytics at all. | 08:38 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | In OUI at least. | 08:38 |
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| cmurphy | does the contributor guide have a "how to review" for noobs section? | 08:39 |
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| cmurphy | maybe we can start looking for these spammy reviews and try to direct people at better guidelines | 08:39 |
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| gmann | +1 | 08:40 |
| mattoliverau | we have https://docs.openstack.org/contributors/code-and-documentation/using-gerrit.html#reviewing-changes but it isn't that detailed in guidelines | 08:41 |
| mattoliverau | it isn't bad. but maybe not what you mean | 08:41 |
| mattoliverau | as in it's how to review, but not "how" to review :) | 08:41 |
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| cmurphy | yeah, we also have this https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/review-the-openstack-way.html but that was the results of the nitpicking discussion and not so much for noobs | 08:41 |
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| mattoliverau | yeah | 08:42 |
| mattoliverau | I was looking for that link | 08:42 |
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| mattoliverau | In swift we also have: https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/master/REVIEW_GUIDELINES.rst | 08:43 |
| cmurphy | those are some good guidelines | 08:44 |
| cmurphy | they could probably be copied over to the general contributor guide | 08:44 |
| mattoliverau | yeah, I was going to mention them in the review the openstack way thread, but came it a little late and the patch landed. | 08:45 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | The contributor guide has basic stuff and a link to the thing that Zane wrote. | 08:45 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | We can definitely expand and edit where necessary though. | 08:45 |
| mattoliverau | some are obviously swift specific but I there are general stuff there too | 08:45 |
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| gmann | yeah i like to have those(written in swift) in some general place and i can point to those in QA review guidelines also. those are nice as generic | 08:47 |
| mattoliverau | but a "the first contact SIG: who are we and what do we do and how to get involved" talk as gmann suggested might be a good submission too, for a community presentation | 08:47 |
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| mattoliverau | we just put it in the source tree, so devs can't say they haven't seen the file sitting there :P | 08:48 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Could do it as a panel or just a lightning talk. | 08:49 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Lol that's a good tactic. | 08:49 |
| mattoliverau | yeah, all of the above. Let's create a etherpad and put down ideas :) | 08:49 |
| gmann | panel also sounds good | 08:49 |
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| mattoliverau | I'll create the etherpad and add it to our wiki page. | 08:50 |
| gmann | cool, thanks | 08:51 |
| mattoliverau | y'all can help fill it with topics | 08:51 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Thanks mattoliverau! | 08:51 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Yes definitely | 08:51 |
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| mattoliverau | #action mattoliverau to create etherpad to gather thoughts for summit CFP | 08:52 |
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| mattoliverau | great, anything else or should be have an early mark and let diablo_rojo_phon go enjoy Seoul? | 08:52 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I think that's all I had.. | 08:53 |
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| gmann | nothing from me | 08:53 |
| mattoliverau | anything else cmurphy, ianychoi? | 08:53 |
| cmurphy | nope | 08:53 |
| mattoliverau | then I'll call it, thanks all for coming, and diablo_rojo_phon go enjoy some korean bbq or a dolsot bibimbap! | 08:54 |
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| mattoliverau | #endmeeting | 08:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 27 08:55:02 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fc_sig/2018/fc_sig.2018-06-27-08.01.html | 08:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fc_sig/2018/fc_sig.2018-06-27-08.01.txt | 08:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fc_sig/2018/fc_sig.2018-06-27-08.01.log.html | 08:55 |
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| gmann | thanks mattoliverau for chairing | 08:55 |
| mattoliverau | nps | 08:55 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Thanks for hosting mattoliverau! | 08:55 |
| ianychoi_phone | Nope thanks a lot! | 08:55 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Will definitely eat all the things. | 08:55 |
| ianychoi_phone | mattoliverau: great :) | 08:55 |
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| mattoliverau | diablo_rojo_phon: /me is jelous enjoy | 08:56 |
| mattoliverau | o/ | 08:56 |
| ianychoi_phone | diablo_rojo_phon: me just saw your Twitter- wow :) | 08:56 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | ianychoi_phone: yeah it was amazing | 08:56 |
| ianychoi_phone | :) | 08:57 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | That's never happened before. | 08:58 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Ideally hope it happens again someday lol | 08:58 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I really | 08:58 |
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| ianychoi_phone | Me had no such experience :) Welcome to Korea and let’s have a chat after your final landing in Seoul | 09:00 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | ianychoi_phone: image already here lol just been waiting in the airport for hogepodge | 09:01 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Oh man. Autocorrect is killing me. | 09:01 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I'm already | 09:01 |
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| ganso | hello | 16:02 |
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| kien-ha | hi | 16:02 |
| whoami-rajat_ | Hi | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | O/ | 16:02 |
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| gman-tx | hi | 16:02 |
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| erlon_ | hi | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 27 16:03:31 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:03 |
| erlon_ | o/ | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: around for a bit? | 16:03 |
| ganso | hello | 16:03 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:03 |
| e0ne | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-rocky-meeting-agendas | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | As long as the bus in Wi-Fi range. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | #metalbox | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | #chair jungleboyj | 16:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: jungleboyj smcginnis | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Want to do the announcements while you can, or easier to have me just go ahead? | 16:05 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Announcements | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:05 | |
| jungleboyj | Go ahead. Still getting connected. | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | OK, sounds good. | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | We're just a few weeks already from the non-client lib freeze. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | So if there's anything in os-brick critical, make sure that gets brought up and reviewed. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | One week after that is client lib freeze. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | If there are any server side features getting close let's make sure there's a client patch for anything that needs it. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | And of course, the review priorities. ^ | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | ++ | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | I have not been able to go through there lately, so if you are in there and see anything done, feel free to mark it as merged. Anything else important missing, please add it. | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | I think that's all for announcements. | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | #topic Check-in on HA development progress | 16:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Check-in on HA development progress (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:08 | |
| smcginnis | geguileo has a patch up for this. :) | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/571242 docs: Write high availability devref | 16:08 |
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| smcginnis | Great to get some docs in there, so please take a look at that patch and provide any feedback. | 16:09 |
| geguileo | anything that's not clear, or any additional information that people want, just comment it there | 16:09 |
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| jungleboyj | geguileo: thank you. | 16:10 |
| geguileo | for this document we should be verbose | 16:10 |
| kien-ha | I'm actually reading and reviewing as we speak | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: Thanks for doing that. Anything else you want to say about this? | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | kien-ha: Thanks! | 16:10 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: not at this moment | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: OK, thanks again. | 16:10 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Open discussion | 16:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:10 | |
| smcginnis | Oh yeah, forgot an announcement/reminder: | 16:10 |
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| smcginnis | #info No meeting July 4th due to US holiday | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | Anyone have anything else to discuss today? | 16:11 |
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| erlon_ | I have a topic | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | erlon_: All yours. | 16:11 |
| erlon_ | :) | 16:11 |
| erlon_ | not really, have just found out that we should re think our Cinder logo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LksPG2-SiA&t=14s | 16:11 |
| erlon_ | lol | 16:12 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:12 |
| whoami-rajat_ | Hi | 16:12 |
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| lseki | *facepalm* | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | Haha | 16:12 |
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| whoami-rajat_ | i have a query | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | I think jungleboyj has an idea for a Halloween costume this year. :D | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | whoami-rajat_: Sure, go ahead. | 16:13 |
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| erlon_ | hauha, jungleboyj please dont try to do it too realistic | 16:13 |
| whoami-rajat_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576479/ , is abandoning this patch ok? | 16:14 |
| ganso | smcginnis: this one https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41JFvCgpIDL._AC_UL320_SR262,320_.jpg ? | 16:14 |
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| smcginnis | ganso: Haha, there's that too. ;) | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | whoami-rajat_: Looking... | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | whoami-rajat_: Yeah, it would appear so. | 16:14 |
| whoami-rajat_ | smcginnis: ok, thanks :) | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | whoami-rajat_: Thanks for checking and working on it! | 16:15 |
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| smcginnis | Anyone have anything else? | 16:16 |
| whoami-rajat_ | smcginnis: mp | 16:16 |
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| smcginnis | I'll take that as a no. | 16:17 |
| jungleboyj | No. Sorry connectivity wasn't so great. | 16:17 |
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| smcginnis | OK, I guess that's all for this week. Thanks everyone! | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: thanks for doing the meeting. | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | np | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:18 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 27 16:18:46 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2018/cinder.2018-06-27-16.03.html | 16:18 |
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| mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 17:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 27 17:05:08 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:05 |
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| mugsie | #topic Roll Call | 17:05 |
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| mugsie | ok then :/ | 17:15 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 17:15 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 27 17:15:45 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:15 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2018/designate.2018-06-27-17.05.html | 17:15 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2018/designate.2018-06-27-17.05.txt | 17:15 |
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| smcginnis | mugsie: Quite the meeting there. :) | 17:51 |
| mugsie | smcginnis: aye :( | 17:52 |
| mugsie | first meeting of the new rotation, so I should have probably sent a heads up email to be fair | 17:52 |
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| tbarron | lotta consensus | 19:58 |
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| notmyname | swift meeting time | 20:59 |
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| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 27 21:00:01 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
| notmyname | who's here for the swift team meeting? | 21:00 |
| timburke | o/ | 21:00 |
| m_kazuhiro | o/ | 21:00 |
| rledisez | hi | 21:00 |
| mattoliverau | o/ | 21:00 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: just pinged me and said he's got something else going on but may be able to join in a little bit | 21:00 |
| kota_ | o/ | 21:01 |
| acoles | hi | 21:01 |
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| torgomatic | o/ | 21:01 |
| notmyname | welcome, everyone | 21:02 |
| notmyname | agenda this week just has a few topics on it | 21:02 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:02 |
| notmyname | #topic python-swiftclient | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "python-swiftclient (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:03 | |
| notmyname | I was looking at the openstack release cycle dates, and we need to tag a release of python-swiftclient in about a month from now | 21:03 |
| timburke | oh, that's probably a good idea. i should clean up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/577584/ | 21:03 |
| patchbot | patch 577584 - python-swiftclient - Stop leaking quite so many connections | 21:03 |
| timburke | and maybe figure out how we can land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/573355/ | 21:03 |
| patchbot | patch 573355 - python-swiftclient - fix tox python3 overrides | 21:03 |
| timburke | and look at some of timur's paches | 21:04 |
| notmyname | yeah, getting together some patches we want to land will be useful | 21:04 |
| notmyname | timburke: can you add those to the priority reviews page, plese? | 21:04 |
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| notmyname | right now, there's a few things that have landed that would be good to release, but AFAIK nothing critical | 21:04 |
| notmyname | point is, keep swiftclient in mind, and expect a release in about 4 weeks | 21:05 |
| notmyname | and it seems timburke (as always) has a pretty good idea of some good, open patches for swiftclient :-) | 21:05 |
| notmyname | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337960/ | 21:06 |
| patchbot | patch 337960 - swift - Send correct SLO ETag for container updates | 21:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337960/ (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:06 | |
| notmyname | clayg: just said a good summary about this patch in -swift | 21:06 |
| notmyname | this is an example of something that seems to be a good case for wanting some more eyes on the review, in part because there are some API concerns | 21:07 |
| notmyname | from clayg: "A bunch of people think it makes the world better to merge as is. I’ve advocated more work should happen to make the world better but with only additive API changes. Contention seems to be broad support for use-case and weak support for more-work/legacy-api-warts. So we’re stuck. We need a value judgment." | 21:07 |
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| notmyname | I'll take some time this week to review this patch, but I'd definitely appreciate some other eyes on it. kota_ and m_kazuhiro and zaitcev, your opinions will be valued | 21:08 |
| timburke | fwiw, there's a related change for s3api (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575860/) that's also somewhat impacted, just because it needs to come up with *something* to send as the base etag for the container server | 21:09 |
| patchbot | patch 575860 - swift - Include '-' in multipart ETags | 21:09 |
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| notmyname | timburke: ah, good to know | 21:10 |
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| kota_ | I'll look at it. As well as s3api case, I'm interested in the change. | 21:10 |
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| notmyname | kota_: thanks | 21:10 |
| m_kazuhiro | I'll take time to review it. | 21:11 |
| notmyname | m_kazuhiro: thank you | 21:11 |
| notmyname | #topic other topics | 21:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "other topics (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:11 | |
| notmyname | acoles: zaitcev: how's the put/post patch looking this week? | 21:11 |
| timburke | fwiw, they both build on some nice x-object-sysmeta-container-update-override-* work that we'd done for crypto but haven't really used much since then... | 21:11 |
| notmyname | timburke: it's really cool to see those mechanisms reused | 21:12 |
| acoles | notmyname: I believe zaitcev pushed a new version with my changes squashed in but I have not had chance to look at that yet | 21:12 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:12 |
| timburke | iirc i came up with the slo patch in part as a means of testing the reusability of the changes for crypto :-) | 21:12 |
| acoles | timburke: ah yes, I remember the-longest-header-name-swift-so-far :) | 21:13 |
| zaitcev | notmyname: I squashed acoles' work in, and found that we don't have enough unit tests... We're well protected against regressions, at least. New code is not well covered. The functests actually test more of it than unit tests. | 21:13 |
| acoles | zaitcev: did you squash in the changes to in process func test jobs too? | 21:13 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: ok. are you working on improving unit test coverage now? or is there something else to do first? | 21:13 |
| acoles | at last week's meeting I promised to write up options for object server version 'discovery' ... https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-put-post | 21:15 |
| zaitcev | acoles: everything, I didn't find much to disagree. There was one place where a comment became senseless because you optimized an assignment away. It was useless as code, but meaningful fore readability. So, only one very minor change from your code. | 21:15 |
| acoles | zaitcev: ok, yeh I saw your comment there. that's fine | 21:15 |
| zaitcev | notmyname: working... But it can go in too. Or at least other people can play with it safely. | 21:16 |
| notmyname | acoles: thanks! I'll review that too | 21:16 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: ok, thanks | 21:17 |
| acoles | notmyname: IIRC clayg favoured option 2 or 3, maybe he went for 3 in the end, over - -swift a hile back | 21:17 |
| acoles | while* | 21:17 |
| acoles | people could express preference on the etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-put-post | 21:17 |
| notmyname | that's what I was just about to ask! | 21:18 |
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| notmyname | is there a link on the review to that etherpad? | 21:18 |
| acoles | notmyname: yes, at the top | 21:18 |
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| notmyname | acoles: no, other way around. | 21:18 |
| acoles | oh, sorry, no, other way round | 21:18 |
| zaitcev | I saw the PUT+POST, but I don't know what to say. I like the path thing well enough. Some of these options seem like too much trouble for the same result. | 21:18 |
| zaitcev | er, saw P+P etherpad | 21:19 |
| zaitcev | But I'm not wedded to anything. | 21:19 |
| notmyname | let's review it together and see what we like. rledisez, if you've got some time, I'd especially like your perspective on it | 21:19 |
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| notmyname | meeting summary so far: review PUT/POST etherpad, check out that patch. look at swiftclient reviews. check out the etag api change | 21:21 |
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| notmyname | which brings me to a topic that isn't on the meeting agenda | 21:21 |
| mattoliverau | Review all the things! | 21:21 |
| rledisez | sure, I already looked few weeks ago. I should check it again for the last modification. I was a bit disturbed by the file descriptor cache and the /./ trick. the first one seems inevitable. the second one, I don't know. I'd like alecuyer to he here because he looked into it to check how it will interact with losf | 21:21 |
| notmyname | rledisez: ok. but especially the migration stuff | 21:22 |
| notmyname | unfortunately (for us), both torgomatic and acoles are leaving us to work on other things | 21:22 |
| zaitcev | ouch | 21:23 |
| mattoliverau | :( | 21:23 |
| kota_ | oh | 21:23 |
| timburke | they will be sorely missed :( | 21:23 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: you'll be around for the rest of this week, correct? and acoles, through the end of next? | 21:23 |
| torgomatic | that is correct for me | 21:23 |
| acoles | notmyname: yes | 21:24 |
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| notmyname | torgomatic: acoles: I'd like to take this opportunity to publicly, on the record, say that it's been a privilege and honor to work with you for as long as you've been contributing to swift. you have made the project, the community, and myself better. I'm grateful for the time we've worked together, and I hope we can again someday. | 21:24 |
| notmyname | and I wish you the best for what's net | 21:25 |
| notmyname | *next | 21:25 |
| torgomatic | Well, thank you. Much like the word "plethora", that means a lot. | 21:25 |
| zaitcev | That fast-post thing was amazine. | 21:25 |
| zaitcev | orz | 21:25 |
| mattoliverau | I think I speak for us all when I say, it sucks to see you go, but all the best, you both are awesome Devs and people so go thrive and be awesome! And also don't be a stranger and lurk or come say hi at times :) | 21:26 |
| zaitcev | I think I learned a lot about the proper way to think about distributed systems just from that one patch. | 21:26 |
| acoles | notmyname: thank you. it has likewise been a privilege and huge pleasure to be part of the swift community. I hope not to be a stranger. | 21:27 |
| mattoliverau | You know if either of you find yourself in Oz you should pop in ;) | 21:27 |
| kota_ | +1 mattoliverau. You both works awesome thing. I have learned a lot of things from you. | 21:27 |
| acoles | zaitcev: me too :D | 21:27 |
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| kota_ | looks like zaitcev said my thought just short before than me. | 21:28 |
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| notmyname | it feels a bit inappropriate at this point to just go start talking about patches again for the rest of the hour, so I'll close the meeting now. but we can keep chatting in here or over in -swift | 21:29 |
| notmyname | #endmeeting | 21:29 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 27 21:29:21 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2018/swift.2018-06-27-21.00.html | 21:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2018/swift.2018-06-27-21.00.txt | 21:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2018/swift.2018-06-27-21.00.log.html | 21:29 |
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