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ekcs#startmeeting congressteammeeting02:31
openstackMeeting started Fri Jun 22 02:31:57 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.02:31
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.02:31
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ekcshello all. topics here as usual. please add/comment!02:32
ekcshttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics02:32
akhil_jainekcs: hello!02:33
ekcshi akhil_jain !02:34
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ekcsok let’s dive in then.02:37
ekcsNo major topics from me.02:37
ekcs#topic gate02:37
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ekcsJust a quick update that gate was blocked for a few days because of 1. sphinx upgrade to 1.7.5 causing errors in building doc from docstring02:38
ekcsand 2. because for some reason nova-compute host now takes longer than the default 60 seconds wait time to start up on the main dsvm job.02:38
ekcsboth should be fixed by this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576601/ being merged now.02:39
patchbotpatch 576601 - congress - Unblock gate02:39
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ekcs#topic open discussion02:41
ekcsother than that I don’t have much to talk about today.02:41
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ekcsakhil_jain: I saw that you pinged my yesterday but I didn’t see it until much later.02:41
akhil_jainekcs: ya, i have question regarding push driver only!02:42
ekcscool you wanna talk about that now?02:42
akhil_jaincan we issue POST req driretly to datasource manualy instead of installing that project?02:42
ekcsakhil_jain: for what purpose?02:44
akhil_jainjust for testing02:44
ekcsgate testing?02:44
ekcstesting during development?02:44
akhil_jainyes02:44
ekcsgot it.02:45
akhil_jainits ok we can discuss about it later on mail  chain.02:45
ekcseither way yes that’s what we already do for doctor driver: https://github.com/openstack/congress-tempest-plugin/blob/master/congress_tempest_plugin/tests/scenario/congress_datasources/test_doctor.py02:45
ekcslike here: https://github.com/openstack/congress-tempest-plugin/blob/master/congress_tempest_plugin/tests/scenario/congress_datasources/test_doctor.py#L7702:46
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akhil_jainthanks for reference i will look into same and get back to you02:46
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ekcsbetter reference could be what I did for vitrage.02:46
ekcshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/574902/6/congress_tempest_plugin/tests/scenario/congress_datasources/test_vitrage.py@7802:46
patchbotpatch 574902 - congress-tempest-plugin - Test webhook to congress vitrage data source02:46
ekcsif this gets merged or you make a patch depending on it, you can easily use the same method to send webhook.02:47
akhil_jainyes for vitrage i have been try lately. but maybe i was missing something and getting error02:47
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ekcsultimately we’d probably want a fully integrated test at gate to make sure the projects don’t drift out of sync, but for now the best we can do is simulated webhook before vitrage and monasca merge authenticated webhooks.02:48
ekcsI see we can work through that together if you like.02:48
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ekcshow are you testing vitrage/02:49
ekcs?02:49
akhil_jainusing your PS and issuing POST request manually after creating datasources02:49
akhil_jainwas checking if data gets added to alarms table but was unable to do that02:50
ekcsI see what error / failure do you get?02:51
akhil_jainI was internal server server error.02:51
akhil_jainbut i will look into same as link shared by you.02:52
ekcshmmm. could you paste the exact POST command somewhere? maybe in the topics etherpad or wherever else you want02:52
ekcsthanks for testing it out btw02:52
akhil_jainyes, i was study code flow. and your vitrage driver is helping me out. thanks to you02:54
akhil_jaini have pasted in etherpad topics POST request02:54
akhil_jaintell me if i am wrong somewhere02:54
ekcsi’m looking....02:56
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akhil_jainthanks02:56
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ekcsthat’s strange. not sure why. seems to be exactly the same thing my tempest test is doing...02:59
ekcseither way though maybe better error message in my code would be helpful.02:59
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akhil_jainok i will share it. after generating error again03:00
akhil_jainthanks for your time looking into it03:01
ekcsyea. well if it says internal server error there probbaly wasn’t much more info. i meant maybe I could include more error reporting.03:03
ekcsanyways yea I’m stumped for now.03:03
ekcsmaybe look at the log files if you produce it again.03:03
akhil_jainappreciate your help!03:04
akhil_jaini will look more into it03:05
ekcsok yea i’ll look some more.03:06
ekcswrap up meeting then for now?03:06
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akhil_jainyes nothing from my side03:07
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ekcsalrigh then talk to you later! happy friday03:08
ekcs#endmeeting03:08
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akhil_jainekcs: Bye!, Happy friday03:09
ekcsbye!03:09
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mlavalle#startmeeting neutron_drivers14:01
openstackMeeting started Fri Jun 22 14:01:01 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
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manjeets__hello14:01
mlavalleHi there14:01
yamamotohi14:01
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mlavallehi manjeets__, yamamoto !14:02
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mlavalledo you follow the World Cup yamamoto?14:04
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yamamotonot at all14:04
manjeetlol japan won last game14:04
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mlavalleyeah, Japan is doing great14:04
mlavalleThey beat Colombia 2-114:05
yamamotoi wasn't aware that there was a game :-)14:05
mlavalleOn the Colombian side, it was a really painful defeat14:05
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haleybhi14:05
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mlavalleyamamoto: https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=japan+games+world+cup&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-814:06
mlavalleso you can watch the next 2 games ;-)14:06
yamamotoi don't have TV14:07
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mlavalleGo to a sports bar and buy yourself a couple of beers. I invite. I'll pay you back next time I see you14:08
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mlavalleToday we have a light agenda14:09
mlavalleWe have to triaged RFEs14:09
mlavalleFor one of them, we are waiting response from submitter14:09
mlavalleThe other one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/177525014:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1775250 in neutron "Implement DVR-aware announcement of fixed IP's in neutron-dynamic-routing" [Wishlist,New]14:09
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yamamotois it about the opposite direction traffic of fast-exit?14:10
yamamototo make the routing symmetric with fast exit?14:11
tidwellryes, the idea is to route traffic directly to the fip namespace14:11
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tidwellr"fast-entrance" if you will...14:12
mlavalleLOL14:12
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yamamotoit sounds like a reasonable step to me. not sure about details though.14:13
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mlavalleAs noted in the RFE, I also think it is a good next step, expesically considering that we have a developer ready to push code14:15
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mlavallewhere we can flesh out the details, as pointed out correctly by yamamoto14:15
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mlavalleSo I propose moving forward with this RFE14:17
haleybit would be a great step forward imo14:17
mlavalleok, I think we have an absolute majority14:18
mlavalleApproved it is14:19
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mlavalleThanks tidwellr for submitting and following up14:19
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mlavallelooking forward to seeing the code in Gerrit14:19
tidwellrthanks everyone for the quick triage and discussion14:19
mlavalleThat's all that we have for today, haleyb, yamamoto14:20
mlavalleThanks for attending14:20
yamamototidwellr: thank you for the good name "fast-entrance"14:20
mlavalleunless you have something to bring up14:20
mlavalleyeah, that was fun14:21
tidwellrlol14:21
tidwellrthat's going to stick, isn't it?14:21
mlavalleI'll bring it up again14:21
mlavalleok, I guess that's it for today14:22
mlavalleThanks for attending14:22
mlavalle#endmeeting14:22
manjeetthanks14:22
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yamamotothank you14:22
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tidwellrbye14:22
mlavalleyamamoto: I am rooting for Japan to make it to the next round. Good luck. I'll keep you posted14:22
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yamamotomlavalle: thank you. i'm asking google about nearby sports bar :-)14:23
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mlavalleLOL14:23
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smcginnis#startmeeting releaseteam15:00
openstackMeeting started Fri Jun 22 15:00:12 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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smcginnisPing list: dhellmann, dims, fungi, tonyb, lbragstad, ttx, armstrong, annabelleB15:00
dhellmanno/15:00
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smcginnisWow, everyone's quick today. :)15:01
smcginnis#agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rocky-relmgt-tracking15:01
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smcginnis~line 33115:01
smcginnis#topic ACL fixing15:02
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ttxI wanted to give a quick status update on the ACL normalization exercise15:02
smcginnis#link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200183115:02
ttxIt's going well, we are down to 3 things to handle15:02
smcginnisSorry, I realize now I didn't link the two I did to the story.15:02
jungleboyjo/15:02
ttxI had a question for dhellmann re: murano-image-elements15:02
ttxSo they do (rarely) tag but when they need to they do15:03
ttxThe tag triggers legacy-manila-publishimage-generic as a release job15:03
ttxWhich makes me think that it would fail tests if we pushed that through openstack/releases15:03
ttxis that assumption correct ?15:03
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dhellmannprobably. we can add a release-type to deal with it. we have custom release jobs for some other projects.15:04
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ttxdhellmann: would that be your preffered way to solve it ?15:04
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dhellmannif we're going to take on tagging, I think that's the right approach. I guess the alternative is to let them keep tagging on their own?15:04
ttx(the other would be to keep them as exception I guess)15:05
ttxyes15:05
ttxOK, I'll submit something to that effect15:05
dhellmannit will only take a few minutes to add the release type15:05
smcginniss/murano-image-elements/manila-image-elements/15:05
dhellmannis that 2 things? or did we get the name wrong?15:05
ttxThe second leftover is around Helm, which I'll handle as I do their TC health check next week15:05
ttxThe third leftover is smcginnis's around Rally15:06
smcginnisJust correcting the name from earlier in case their was confusion.15:06
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dhellmannok15:06
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dhellmannwhat do we want to do with rally?15:06
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ttxsmcginnis: any update on that ? Shoudl we wait for a TC health check that would dive into their GitHub partial migration ?15:07
smcginnisI just left a comment on the ACL patch for Andrey.15:07
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smcginnisHe had indicated he just needed a few days before.15:07
ttxThere is little point in fixing the ACL if they move dev under GitHub15:07
ttxso an idea of their long term plans could be useful15:07
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fungiyes, i feel like if they'd rather relocate to github, more power to them15:07
smcginnisI was under the impression that was a longer term plan, but yeah, the TC health check might help get a better idea what the plan is there.15:07
fungiassuming they're also looking to exit being an official openstack team, i mean15:08
smcginnisWe'll see what he says on the patch too.15:08
smcginnisGiven what appears to be their broader scope, I suppose that makes sense.15:08
dhellmannyeah, I think a move to github would necessarily mean dropping them from current governance15:08
ttxok, last point -- it's good that we limited the exception list, but if we don't test it regularly, I assume new ACL issues will get introduced15:08
ttxif only because new projects get "official" and retain legacy ACLs15:09
ttxSo I wanted to discuss the best way to run that as a check regularly15:09
ttx(the script is actually making the fix rather than testing for the need for a fix, but should be able to evolve it easily)15:10
dhellmannthis is where that checklist we were going to put together would help15:10
fungishould it be run as a check against governance changes?15:10
smcginnis++15:10
ttxdhellmann: the checklist won't prevent accidental reintroduction15:10
dhellmannmaybe we need a check in governance and in project-config?15:10
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ttxdhellmann: yes, since issues can be introduced from both15:11
dhellmannalthough if we're going to have exceptions, writing the test job will be interesting15:11
fungii suppose i can see the infra team supporting custom approval checks from various stakeholder projects15:11
smcginnisMaybe we need to move that exception list?15:12
fungithough we'll probably want a bit of formality around that relationship15:12
ttxAlternatively we could just check at every milestone15:12
dhellmannI think we said we didn't want to block governance changes to add repos, and that's why we didn't want a check there?15:12
dhellmanncan we have a periodic job that sends email?15:12
ttxIt's not as if there was urgency to block it15:12
dhellmannso we don't have to remember to do it?15:12
smcginnisOr a -nv job?15:12
fungijust remember that if we allow openstack to have special project configuration checks against project-config, then we need to also allow zuul, kata, whoever to do similar things so i want to make sure we think through the policy implications/sla there15:13
ttxFor simplicity I would go with periodic/mailing, or some milestone task15:13
dhellmannfungi : sure. that's another reason a periodic job that is defined somewhere else and reports warnings, rather than causing failures, may be better15:13
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fungibasically an interface to say "this project is listed as an official component of <foo> and the proposed alterations don't match the policies set forth by <foo> governance"15:14
smcginnisWe do already have milestone tasks defined in our process doc. We could easily add a check to be run at one or multiple points too.15:14
ttxdhellmann, smcginnis: how about we keep it as a manual task run around milestones for now.15:14
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dhellmannmaybe that's good enough then, if we have it scripted15:14
dhellmannyeah15:14
ttxAnd automate it if it ends up being a pain or we miss it too often15:14
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dhellmann++15:14
smcginnisThat sounds good for now.15:15
ttxI'll make sure it can run in test mode15:15
fungiwe could use the described interface to also check things like whether dco is enforced on kata repos (if they move to our gerrit) but check whether a cla is enforced for openstack repos15:15
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fungiso i can see some good arguments for allowing projects to encode policy like that15:15
ttxOK, added tasks15:16
fungibut i thnik that if we do go for a project-config job to that end, we want the various projects to own their policy checks and not have the infra team manitaining those15:16
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ttxyeah, if we go through that process it should be for something more critical/valuable15:17
smcginnisHmm, but we also want some oversight on those policies I think.15:17
fungiso that we don't insert ourselves in other projects' governance matters15:17
dhellmannfungi : yeah, that makes sense.15:17
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ttxThose ACL fixes are more a samity check15:17
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smcginnisAt least for TC governed projects.15:17
ttxsaNity15:17
fungiright15:17
fungiso anyway, an option to keep in the back of our minds15:17
smcginnis++15:17
smcginnisSorry, for m-i-e, did we decide a new release type is needed for that?15:18
ttxsmcginnis: dhellmann: would y'all prefer that the script clones governance and project-config, or takes arguments that point to already checked-out repos ?15:18
fungithe two aren't mutually exclusive15:19
ttxCurrently it does the latter, so that it modifies files directly15:19
smcginnisWe have some other automation that just pulls out the files it needs from those repos. Would that work here?15:19
dhellmannsmcginnis : yes, I'll make a note of that15:19
fungiand you'd want to at least support the latter so that you can use zuul depends-on sanely15:19
smcginnisdhellmann: Thanks15:19
fungiassuming you want to also have the option of making it a periodic job or something later15:20
dhellmannI'm OK with it either way. I keep a directory full of a bunch of the release-related repos like project-config anyway15:20
ttxright me too. OK15:20
ttxThanks15:20
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ttx</topic>15:21
smcginnis#topic Tasks15:21
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smcginnisJust a quick follow up from tasks we put down from last week.15:21
smcginnisfungi: Any update on the release-tools repo retirement?15:21
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funginope, i have it up in a terminal and the checklist in a browser tab15:21
fungiso, er, hoping to start shortly15:21
fungijust juggling backlog15:22
smcginnisOK, I'll move that out a couple weeks for us to follow up on just to make sure.15:22
smcginnisI know that feeling.15:22
smcginnisThe other task was for me to check in with annabelleB.15:22
smcginnisHi annabelleB o/15:22
annabelleByes! i’ve been thinking about this as well so good timing115:22
smcginnisannabelleB: Awesome15:22
annabelleBis that the right place to put a little more info on how people should fill out cycle-highlights?15:23
smcginnisannabelleB: We can talk later and come up with details. Just wanted to make sure we eventually get something there.15:23
smcginnisI think a mention there might be good, but we can also look if there is anywhere else that makes more sense to have more details.15:23
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annabelleBsounds good. I can take a stab at a draft and we can go from there15:23
smcginnisPerfect, thanks!15:23
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smcginnis#topic Finishing python 3 port of tools15:24
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smcginnis#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/577291/ Last patch in the series15:24
patchbotpatch 577291 - openstack-infra/project-config - use python3 to run launchpad commenting script15:24
smcginnis#link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001691 Tracking story15:24
smcginnisdhellmann: Anything you wanted to discuss, or just bring up for awareness?15:24
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dhellmannI was hoping to get fungi to take a look at that so I could test the results later today or early next week15:25
fungiyeah, i have it pulled up in gertty as we speak15:25
dhellmanncool, thanks15:25
dhellmannI believe that was the last remaining step in being able to say the tag-releases job runs under python 315:26
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fungiby any chance, has anyone looked at installing launchpadlib from pypi? looks like it's publishing there recently15:26
smcginnisLuckily no major surprises with all of that.15:26
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dhellmannfungi : I started to look at it, and realized that job needs to use system packages because of security, so I went that route instead (see the depends-on)15:27
fungiahh, right15:27
fungithanks for the reminder ;)15:27
dhellmannso I may have been waiting for something I didn't need to wait for, all this time :-/15:27
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smcginnisdhellmann: Hmm, why is it that it needs system packages?15:27
dhellmannthat'll make it interesting to get the storyboard commenting step implemented15:28
fungii've also (barely) started on that piece, yes15:28
dhellmannsmcginnis : we don't (or try not to) pip install stuff into jobs that have access to secrets15:28
fungii'll make sure the sb commenting is py3k from the outset15:28
smcginnisAahh, that makes sense.15:28
dhellmannwe could move the updating step to a separate job, so we can use pip to install pieces to talk to storyboard15:28
fungiyeah, in theory we get a bit more vetting from distro packages15:29
dhellmannalthough I'm not even sure if the storyboard client has been released yet, so we may just want to use requests directly15:29
fungithe api calls we need will be simple, that much i already know15:29
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smcginnisIf it's a simple enough rest API, that might be best.15:29
smcginnisLess dependencies == goodness15:30
smcginnisThat's all for the agenda. Anything else?15:30
dhellmannI couldn't figure out if there was another way to set up the bindep entry for that job, so I added it to the releases repo since that's what triggers the job. it would be nice if there was a way to add it directly in the job definition. although I guess I could have just used an apt task for that.15:30
dhellmannthat's all I had for today15:31
smcginnisThat's a good point. Ansible's pretty good for things like that I hear. :)15:31
smcginnispackage might be better than apt though.15:31
smcginnisNot that I see things changing significantly there.15:32
smcginnisAnyway...15:32
smcginnisI guess that's all for today. Thanks everyone!15:32
fungiyeah, if you want to add packages directly in a job, using ansible primitives is your best bet15:32
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annabelleBthanks all!15:33
smcginnis#endmeeting15:33
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jungleboyjThanks.15:33
fungithanks smcginnis!15:33
armstrongThanks all15:33
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