Tuesday, 2018-03-27

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tpatilToday Sampath is unavailable so I will chair today's masakari meeting04:00
tpatil#startmeeting Masakari04:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 27 04:00:29 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tpatil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.04:00
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.04:00
tpatilHi All04:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Masakari)"04:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'masakari'04:00
niraj_singhhi04:00
Dinesh_BhorHi all04:00
tpatilToday rkmrHonjo won't join this meeting as well04:01
Dinesh_Bhorokay04:01
tpatilSince not many people have joined this meeting, let's postpone discussion of remaining items for Rocky release to the next meeting04:02
Dinesh_Bhoryes04:03
tpatil#topic Bugs04:03
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tpatil#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-masakariclient/+bug/175604704:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1756047 in python-masakariclient "masakari command failed due to os-service-type1.2.0" [Critical,Confirmed]04:04
tpatilI have marked this bug as critical bug as users cannot use masakariclient with latest version of sdk and os-service-type04:04
tpatilthe solution to this issue is move the sdk code from masakariclient to openstacksdk04:05
niraj_singhok04:05
tpatilTakahara has uploaded a patch to move the sdk part04:06
tpatil#link : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555710/04:06
tpatilI don't see any new bugs reported in masakari04:07
tpatil#topic Discussion points04:08
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tpatilniraj_singh: Any progress on masakari-dashboard?04:08
Dinesh_BhorAdded some of openstacksdk core as a reviewer to this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555710/04:09
niraj_singhstuck on https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-masakariclient/+bug/175604704:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1756047 in python-masakariclient "masakari command failed due to os-service-type1.2.0" [Critical,Confirmed]04:09
tpatilDinesh_Bhor: Thank you04:09
tpatilniraj_singh: I have noticed you have pushed this  patch : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543870/04:10
tpatiland the tests are failing due to the above issue in masakariclient04:10
niraj_singhyes04:10
niraj_singhif i push all the patches it will fail with the same issue.04:11
tpatilCan you please confirm whether this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555710/ solves the issue you are facing running tox py27 and py35 job04:11
niraj_singhok i will do it and let you know04:12
tpatilniraj_singh: Thank you04:12
tpatilrecovery method customization04:12
tpatilI haven't yet started writing specs for this feature04:12
tpatilWill work on it this week04:13
Dinesh_Bhorokay04:13
tpatilAnsible support for Masakari04:13
niraj_singhworking on masakari-engine04:14
niraj_singhand i push the code for masakari-api ref:https://github.com/NirajSingh90/openstack-ansible-os_masakari04:14
tpatil#link : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/masakari-ansible-plugin04:14
niraj_singhtoday i will discuss with ansible community about it.04:15
tpatilniraj_singh: please upload the specs against the above blueprint04:15
niraj_singhyes. i will upload it to community gerrit today.04:15
tpatilniraj_singh: Thank you04:16
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tpatilAre you facing any critical issue in deploying masakari-engine?04:16
niraj_singhnot critical.. i will work on it.04:17
tpatilok04:17
niraj_singhMay be i am missing any configuration in openstack-ansible.04:18
niraj_singhi am trying to figure it out.04:18
tpatilok, Best of luck. If you need any help, please ask on openstack-masakari IRC04:18
tpatil#topic Masakari Project mascot04:19
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niraj_singhyes thank you04:19
tpatilSampath-san is checking with OpenStack foundation if Bernard can be used as Masakari mascot. I have heard anything after that.04:20
tpatilI don't have anything else to talk about in this meeting04:21
tpatilLet's finish this meeting early if you don't have anything else for discussion04:22
Dinesh_BhorNothing from my side.04:22
niraj_singhNothing from my side also.04:23
tpatilOk04:23
tpatilThank you All04:23
tpatil#endmeeting04:23
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Dinesh_BhorThank you04:23
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gongyshhi08:00
gongysh#startmeeting tacker08:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 27 08:00:04 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gongysh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:00
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gongysh#topic roll call08:00
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gongyshphuoc, hi08:00
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phuocgongysh, hi08:00
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keikoo/08:00
YanXing_ano/08:00
joxyukihi team08:01
phuoco/08:01
dangtrinhnthi08:01
Li_Jiale o/08:02
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haint_o/08:03
egonzalezo/08:03
gongyshegonzalez, hi08:03
gongyshok, it seems others are not able to join for the time being08:04
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gongysh#topic p1 tasks08:04
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gongyshphuoc,  how is your p1 tasks progressing?08:05
phuocgongysh, I will finish this patch first https://review.openstack.org/#/c/549354/08:05
phuocand move to hybrid SFC feature08:06
gongyshok, but it seem the progress is not good. we have no patch to review now. :)08:07
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gongyshhaint_, how is your p1 tasks?08:08
phuocgongysh, I will improve this patch08:08
gongyshmistral monitoring patch08:08
haint_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486924/08:08
gongyshphuoc thanks08:08
haint_I'm testing08:08
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gongyshhaint_, you can add more information on this patch.08:09
dkushwahao/08:09
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haint_yes, I will update later. Now, it can add VNF workflow action to Mistral08:09
gongyshfor example,  what task it is trying to fix, how we can test.08:10
gongyshhaint_, thanks08:10
haint_the next patch is update Tacker database via Tacker conductor08:10
gongyshdkushwaha, hi08:10
dkushwahasorry i was late08:11
gongyshdkushwaha,  haha08:11
gongyshdangtrinhnt, hi08:12
dangtrinhntgongysh, hi08:12
gongyshwhat about the ui sudio?08:12
gongyshcan you show us?08:12
dangtrinhntSorry, not ready yet08:12
dangtrinhntQuite complicated than I thought.08:12
gongyshsure, it is complex.08:12
gongyshdo you have looked at other mano system for their web studio?08:13
dangtrinhntTrying to decide where to put the template files.08:13
dangtrinhnthttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/553684/08:13
dangtrinhntThe only one available is heat-dashboard that I'm awared of.08:13
gongyshdangtrinhnt,   can u show us where it is storing the file locally by heat-dashboard?08:14
dangtrinhntI'm not sure exactly where but it's store as files somewhere: https://github.com/openstack/heat-dashboard/blob/master/heat_dashboard/api/heat.py#L11508:14
dangtrinhntI will update the exact directory later in the patch.08:15
dangtrinhntMy first idea is to store in Tacker's database but that add dependency08:15
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YanXing_anseems this is a database via web08:16
gongyshheat-translator is using https:// or http: so it is a remote url.08:17
gongyshdangtrinhnt, but it is not a big deal, you can have a setting config for the time being.08:17
dangtrinhntOk08:17
YanXing_an+108:18
gongyshuser can set this path as a NFS path, later we can put it as a tacker API.08:18
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dangtrinhntAgree. I will update the patch. Thanks gongysh, YanXing_an.08:18
gongyshok.08:19
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gongyshdangtrinhnt, you can show us as soon as possible08:19
dangtrinhntOk, I'll try my best :D08:19
gongyshand it will be much better if we have compared to other mano's web studio.08:19
dangtrinhntSure.08:20
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gongyshso no need to hurry to code. lets have some investigation first.08:20
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YanXing_andangtrinhnt, does the web studio call tacker vnfm's api?08:20
dangtrinhntyes, to import VNFD, VNFFGD, NSD directly08:21
dangtrinhntthat's the idea.08:21
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gongyshhaint_, do you have plan when you can finish the mistal action patch?08:22
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haint_at least three more weeks, gongysh08:23
YanXing_andangtrinhnt, ok.08:23
haint_register vnf monitor to mistral is going to finish soon, next patch will take time.08:23
gongyshhaint_, it is a long time. but thanks08:24
gongyshgot it08:24
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gongysh#topic vancouver summit08:24
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gongyshproject update session08:25
gongyshHoang Cong Phuoc and dkushwaha , please start to prepare the topic.08:25
dkushwahagongysh, sure08:26
gongyshcommunity gives you extra free code which i will send them to you.08:26
dangtrinhntgongysh, I'll be there. Working on my VISA :)08:26
haint_can I have a free ticket code?08:27
phuocgongysh, I will prepare for it, and my visa too08:27
gongyshthanks.08:27
gongyshdkushwaha,  phuoc , do you guys have topic selected/08:28
gongysh?08:28
dangtrinhntYes, as lightning talk (10m).08:28
dkushwahagongysh, yes, but in lighting talk08:28
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haint_I want to go there but I have only 50% discount.08:29
gongyshdkushwaha,  so you should have a free code already?08:30
gongyshwe can give one code to haint_08:30
haint_if i have free ticket, i will convince08:30
haint_ my advisor to support travel code08:30
dkushwahagongysh, yes, and i will start visa processing by nex week(after my company approval)08:30
dkushwaha*next08:31
gongyshhaint_, Ok, I can send a code to you.08:31
haint_yes, my email: nguyentrihai93@gmail.com, thanks gongysh08:31
dangtrinhntcool :D08:31
gongyshthant for summit08:33
gongysh#topic open discussion08:33
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gongyshanything to talk about?08:33
gongyshosm.etsi.org is another open source mano08:34
gongyshyou guys can see how it works08:34
gongyshit supports some public cloud vim.08:34
gongyshthat we can introduce.08:35
phuocgongysh, we sometimes look at it too08:35
dangtrinhntThanks, I'm looking at https://osm.etsi.org/wikipub/images/2/26/OSM_R2_Information_Model.pdf08:35
gongyshof course, onap is another big one.08:36
gongyshjoxyuki, hi08:37
joxyukihi08:37
gongyshpolicy feature08:37
gongyshAffinity/Anti-Affinity policies for VDUs .   - masaito, joxyuki, keiko [10m]08:37
gongyshdo you have any update?08:37
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gongyshok08:39
gongyshit seems no new update.08:39
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joxyukinow we are reconsidering the problem that tacker healing is VNF level.08:39
joxyukione solution is that deploying Act and Standby to 2 VNF and manage policy at NS level.08:40
joxyukibut how about supporting VDU leve healing?08:41
gongyshI think we can support at any level.08:43
gongyshVDU is for respwaning policy08:43
gongyshVNF for affinity policy for its member VDUs.08:43
phuocyes, it can be a good feature08:43
gongyshNS level , we can also have placement policy, NS1's vud1 should be balabala with NS2's vdu2.08:44
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phuocbut Tacker uses Heat to launch all VMs, we need more investigate about it08:45
joxyukigot it.08:45
gongyshanything else?08:46
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phuocjoxyuki, you can upload spec, and we can put more comments to support you guys08:46
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gongyshI have one more free code, if team member needs it,  ask for it.08:47
joxyukiphuoc, thanks I will try.08:47
egonzalezi have a ticket free ticket from last ptg08:47
egonzalezcan give to someone08:47
gongyshok, please email me or ping me anything about the project.08:48
gongyshif there is no more questions, let end this meeting. thanks08:48
gongysh#endmeeting08:48
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zhipengis the scientific wg meeting here ?11:04
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XueFeng#startmeeting senlin13:04
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 27 13:04:34 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is XueFeng. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:04
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:04
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XueFenghello, everyone13:04
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Qiming_hi13:05
chenyb4Hello13:05
XueFengok, let's wait a moment13:05
XueFenghi Qiming_,chenyb413:06
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XueFengHere is Senlin rocky work items:https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/senlin-rocky-workitems13:06
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XueFengOK, let' start13:07
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XueFenghi, Qiming_ chenyb4, any import problems need to discuss?13:08
XueFengimportant13:08
Qiming_I'm curious about the work items during Rocky13:08
Qiming_One thing (important bug) I can think of is the micro-version support13:09
Qiming_the support is broken at SDK side13:09
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XueFengyes13:09
chenyb4I was commit patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555231/13:09
chenyb4but exist problem13:10
XueFengSo this patch is still in review. I will add it to important bug work item13:12
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chenyb4Wait for Monty review13:12
XueFengOk13:13
Qiming_Please review also this spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532814/13:13
Qiming_It is about how SDK exposes and leverages the microversion support in various services13:13
Qiming_Also this one worth a reading: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444892/13:15
XueFengOK, I have add me to reviewer13:15
chenyb4OK13:16
Qiming_The key is to understand the intent and design of microversion and also the SDK architecture13:16
XueFengyes13:17
XueFengOK, let' move13:17
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XueFeng#topic Senlin Dashboard13:19
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XueFengWe have add cluster resize operation recently in senlin dashboard13:19
Qiming_cool13:20
XueFengWe can add more operations in dashboard which senlin has supported in senlin api.13:21
XueFengAnd we also made Angular-based panels as default in senlin dashboard13:22
Qiming_great13:23
XueFengAny body can free  to  add cluster operations in senlin dashboard13:24
XueFenghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/551253/13:24
XueFengYou can reference this patch13:25
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XueFengs/reference/refer to13:25
XueFeng let's move13:30
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XueFeng#topic K8s on Senlin13:30
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XueFengAs I know, some guys have start for this13:32
XueFengFor examples:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556809/13:32
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chenyb4I have just start,Found two problems and have submitted patch.13:33
XueFengAlso this one:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556745/13:33
XueFengOK, this a good beginning13:34
XueFengLet's work hard for this together:)13:34
XueFengQiming_13:34
Qiming_Yes, we need hands to improve it13:35
XueFengAny suggestions about this?13:35
Qiming_Work on it13:36
Qiming_Not just talk about it13:37
XueFengHaHa, ok. Also, any guys who is interested in k8s and Senlin can feel free to work on it.13:37
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chenyb4Ok13:40
Qiming_We need to think from user's perspective, ... what can we do to make deploying k8s on nova clusters easier?13:41
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Qiming_I'm also looking at the gophercloud project, which is providing Go SDK for openstack13:42
Qiming_Senlin is not there yet13:42
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Qiming_Also, dims has developed a cloud-controller-manager for openstack: https://github.com/dims/openstack-cloud-controller-manager13:43
dtruong2_@qming: we are actually working on adding senlin support to gophercloud13:43
dtruong2_https://github.com/gophercloud/gophercloud/issues/82313:43
Qiming_https://github.com/dims/openstack-cloud-controller-manager/blob/master/pkg/cloudprovider/providers/openstack/openstack.go#L55613:44
dtruong2_we just started this effort with gophercloud and it will take awhile13:44
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Qiming_Oh, my, thank you so much!13:44
XueFengwow, so great13:45
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dtruong2_we have a lot of the code already.  just to clean up and submit the pull request13:45
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XueFengThanks dtruong13:46
Qiming_Saw that, the concern was .... TOO BIG, :)13:46
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dtruong2_yes, so we are splitting up the pull requests13:46
dtruong2_https://github.com/gophercloud/gophercloud/pull/82413:46
Qiming_That is fine, we can break it into smaller PRs for easier review13:46
Qiming_beautiful13:46
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dtruong2_i'm working with that developer13:47
dtruong2_so we will be making more pull requests to add all the APIs over the next weeks13:47
Qiming_don't hesitate if there are helps needed13:48
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dtruong2_have you had discussions with dims about senlin integration in the cloud controller manager?13:48
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Qiming_Not yet, I just came across yet last weekend13:49
Qiming_s/yet/it/13:50
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Qiming_I'm still trying to allocate some time for a better understanding of the cloud controller manager interface13:51
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XueFengok.Qiming_, dtruong2_, more detail for this maybe you can share by email to us13:52
XueFengto senlin core team13:52
dtruong2_ok.  sounds good13:52
Qiming_sure13:52
XueFenglet's move on13:52
XueFeng#topic open discussion13:53
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XueFengSummit will come in May 21. We can have a Senlin update in the summit13:55
Qiming_cool13:56
chenyb4cool13:56
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XueFengIf we finished more about k8s on Senlin. Maybe we can  have a Senlin onboarding as well13:57
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XueFengOk, that's all from me13:58
XueFengQiming_, chenyb4, dtruong213:58
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Qiming_Nothing from my side13:58
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XueFengOK, Thanks.14:00
XueFeng#endmeeting14:00
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jlibosva#startmeeting networking14:01
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
jlibosvahello friends14:01
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mlavalleo/14:01
slaweqhi14:01
annp_hi14:01
hongbino/14:01
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jlibosva#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings14:01
jlibosva#topic Announcements14:01
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jlibosvaFirst, I'd like to bring attention to new planned release of PBR, if you are aware of any issues you think we need to solve, it would be good to raise your voice14:02
jlibosvamore info at14:02
lajoskatona_hi14:02
jlibosva#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128741.html14:02
rubasovhi14:02
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jlibosvaSecond is about Vancouver Summit - you can now submit a topic you'd like to get discussed at The Forum14:02
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jlibosva#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128732.html14:02
jlibosvaregarding release planning, we're slowly(?) approaching first milestone of Rocky, that is gonna happen in the week of April 1614:03
mlavallenot very slowly14:03
mlavalleto me at least14:03
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jlibosvayeah :) time flies14:04
jlibosvathat's why the question mark :-p14:04
jlibosvathat's all from me14:04
jlibosvaany other announcements?14:04
mlavalleyou covered them all, as far as I know14:04
jlibosvaack, moving on then14:05
jlibosva#topic Blueprints14:05
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jlibosvathis is the dashboard of what we have planned for r-1:14:05
jlibosva#link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/rocky-114:05
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mlavalleI want to bring attention to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/strict-minimum-bandwidth-support14:06
mlavallerubasov and lajoskatona_ are developing the spec for it:14:07
mlavalle#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508149/14:07
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mlavalleand there is a Nova counterpart:14:08
mlavalle#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502306/14:08
rubasovI hope to upload a new patch set for the neutron side today or at latest tomorrow14:08
jlibosvamlavalle: is the Neutron one a lot different than https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396297/7 which was merged for Pike?14:08
rubasovbut comments are welcome any time14:08
mlavallejlibosva: it is a more detailed development of the one we merged14:08
mlavallewe are going in detail on how to create the data structures in the Placement API14:09
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mlavalleand how to coordinate Nova and Neutron for binding14:09
rubasovjlibosva: the placement side advanced quite a lot since then14:09
mlavalleso I invite the team to take some team and provide feedback14:09
jlibosvaok, thanks for update14:09
rubasovjlibosva: and we are trying to reflect that14:10
mlavallesome time^^^^14:10
jlibosvamakes sense :)14:10
slaweqrubasov: I will review Your specs ASAP :)14:10
rubasovslaweq: thanks as always14:10
mlavallerubasov: I provided feedback yesterday on the Neutron side and intend to do the same today on the NOva side14:12
mlavallehopefully my day will be long enough for that14:12
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jlibosvaany other blueprints worth to be mentioned here?14:13
mlavalleThe other blueprint that I want to mention today is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/live-migration-portbinding14:13
rubasovmlavalle: thank you, I'm in the middle of responding14:13
mlavalleI haven't changed the code lately14:14
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mlavalleWhat I've been doing, though, is developing some bash scripts to simulate the plugging and unplugging of vifs in different hosts14:14
mlavalleThis is to test the activation of new bindings14:15
mlavallemy scripts are working fine now and I am starting to test moving the vif from OVS to OVS14:15
slaweqmlavalle: just wondering, is it possible to make such tests in fullstack test maybe?14:15
mlavalleand towards the end of the week I will move from OVS to linuxbridge14:15
mlavalleslaweq: yeah, that was part of the idea of writing those bash scripts14:16
slaweqok then :)14:16
mlavalleto have a guideline as to how to implement a fullstack test14:16
mlavalleI also want to mention that the Nova side is actively working on their side of the code14:17
mlavalleso we will also be able to try this with instances14:17
mlavallethat's all I have14:17
hoangcx_jlibosva: there is a blueprint for FWaaSv2 logging in fwaas, but one item in neutron side14:17
hoangcx_jlibosva: Regarding to logging API framework, I have 2 patches in neutron want to get reviewing: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/neutron+topic:bug/172072714:18
hoangcx_jlibosva: Those patches make the framework be more generic in order to support logging for other resources14:18
hoangcx_jlibosva: Hope you can get a time to help review on it.14:18
mlavallehoangcx_: I will also review and create a blueprint to add to the dasboard to track it14:19
mlavallethanks for bringing it up14:19
hoangcx_mlavalle: perfect. Thanks a lot. sir14:19
jlibosvahoangcx_: thanks for bringing it up14:19
annp_hi14:19
jlibosvaI'll also look for the bp14:19
njohnston+114:19
annp_+114:20
annp_I’m working on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/run-in-wsgi-server.14:20
annp_I proposed a patch to allow neutron-api load config files to WSGI process https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555608/14:20
mlavalleannp_: we have a section in the agenda for the community goals14:20
mlavallefor today, let's discuss this patch now14:21
annp_mlavalle, Sorry, We can discus later. Thanks.14:21
jlibosvaor unless there is nothing else for blueprints, we can switch to community goals smoothly :)14:21
mlavallebut in the future we can bring it up in that section14:21
mlavalleLOL, yeah, let's do that14:21
jlibosvaack :)14:21
jlibosva#topic Community goals14:21
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jlibosvaannp_: hi again :)14:22
annp_hi again :)14:22
mlavalleThat's one of the hallmarks of a great facilitatopr like jlibosva, smooth transitions14:22
jlibosvalol14:22
annp_I’m working on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/run-in-wsgi-server.14:22
annp_I proposed a patch to allow neutron-api load config files to WSGI process https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555608/14:22
annp_However,  I encountered a problem, Neutron-rpc seems start not correct, maybe neutron-rpc loaded wrong core plugin.14:22
annp_Here is problem I'm encountering http://logs.openstack.org/18/473718/6/check/tempest-full/f54f5c0/controller/logs/screen-neutron-rpc.txt.gz?level=ERROR14:23
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annp_I'm trying to find root cause of the problem.14:24
mlavalleis it loading the port binding extension?14:25
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mlavalleit seems it doesn't recognize binding attributes14:25
annp_I'm not sure14:25
* mlavalle is shooting from the hip14:25
jlibosvathe port binding extension should be part of ml2, right? it's not configurable14:25
annp_I'm trying to understand, because I can create VM on provider network14:25
annp_but I can't create vm on tenant network.14:26
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jlibosvaannp_: can you add a debug message there to get what core plugin is loaded in the rpc worker?14:26
mlavalleyou are right jlibosva14:26
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annp_jlibosva, Thanks. I will try to add debug message as you suggestion.14:26
slaweqhttp://logs.openstack.org/18/473718/6/check/tempest-full/f54f5c0/controller/logs/screen-neutron-rpc.txt.gz?#_Mar_27_07_34_12_77616414:27
slaweqlooks that it is ML214:27
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annp_and update to you in tomorrow. :)14:27
jlibosvawe could discuss details in the #openstack-neutron but thanks annp_ for working on it and bringing this up14:29
annp_that's all my status until now.14:29
annp_jlibosva, thanks, please go ahead.14:29
jlibosvaannp_: thanks :)14:30
jlibosvaspeaking about community goals14:30
jlibosvaI was pinged earlier by amotoki who couldn't attend this meeting14:30
jlibosvaI can forward what he wants to update about14:30
jlibosvamox-removal goal has a good progress14:30
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jlibosvaneutronclient and vpnaas-dashboard are done14:31
mlavallehongbin has been very active with that14:31
mlavalleThanks14:31
jlibosvafwaas-dashboard is almost there14:31
hongbinmlavalle: :)14:31
jlibosvaamotoki wants to get more volunteers to help slaweq with SDK migration. slaweq did a good job with trunk there14:32
slaweqjlibosva: I didn't do too much for now14:32
slaweqonly one patch in review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556089/14:32
slaweqbut I will continue with other things slowly :)14:33
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jlibosvait could be an inspiration for other patches, the first one is always the hardest ;)14:33
slaweq:)14:33
slaweqI like to be the first one :D14:33
jlibosva:)14:33
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jlibosvaso that said, we need more hands on SDK migration14:34
jlibosva#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-openstacksdk-migration14:34
jlibosva^^ I forgot to send the etherpad used for syncing of what needs to be done :)14:34
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jlibosvalooking at other community goals, I'm gonna write down my name to py3 at the wiki14:36
mlavalleThanks jlibosva !14:36
jlibosvaanybody has anything else to this topic?14:36
slaweqI want to give short update about mutable config options14:36
slaweqso I did https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554259/14:36
slaweqand I also sent email with some questions about it http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128633.html14:37
slaweqnow it looks for me that this patch is fine, it's what we need to have to accomplish this goal14:37
slaweqso please take a look at it if You will have some time :)14:37
mlavalleI took a look Friday and read the related goal description14:37
mlavalleit looked good to me14:38
bodenslaweq are there any actions by networking projects that use neutron (decoupled plugins)?14:38
mlavalleI'll revisit today14:38
slaweqboden: I didn't check14:38
bodenslaweq ok it wasn’t clear to me if other networking projects had TODOs here or not14:38
slaweqbut if there are some other services then it restart_method should be also changed for them probably14:39
slaweqdebug option is set as mutable in oslo.config and we inherit it from there so that's fine IMO14:39
slaweqboden: I will check other networking projects if any actions are needed there14:40
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slaweqthx for pointing this :)14:40
bodenthank you14:40
jlibosvathanks slaweq for bringing up the topic14:41
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slaweqthat's all from my side :)14:42
jlibosvaI think we can move on to the bugs section14:42
jlibosva#topic Bugs14:42
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mlavallewow, armax your timimg was perfect14:42
jlibosvaarmax has joined, great timing :)14:42
jlibosvaarmax was a bug deputy last week14:43
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jlibosvaarmax: are you with us?14:43
jlibosvaseems like not :(14:44
mlavallemaybe not14:44
jlibosvaso looking at the launchpad bugs dashboard: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs14:44
jlibosvawe have two new critical bugs14:45
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jlibosva#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/175803314:45
openstackLaunchpad bug 1758033 in neutron "Floating IP QoS scenario tests failing" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)14:45
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jlibosvait's for stable queens and I see patch is merged14:45
slaweqI think we can close it now, as it is fixed in linuxbridge job14:45
jlibosvaprobably stable branch doesn't flip the LP status?14:45
jlibosvaslaweq++14:45
slaweqthere is some other problem in DVR job still but there is different bug for that14:45
jlibosvasecond is in progress:14:46
jlibosva#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/175806214:46
openstackLaunchpad bug 1758062 in neutron "fwaas unit tests are failing on networking-midonet gate" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to YAMAMOTO Takashi (yamamoto)14:46
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jlibosvafix is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555699/14:46
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jlibosvaif we have anybody with powers on fwaas repo, please have a look :)14:46
njohnstonwill do14:47
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jlibosvanjohnston: thanks! :)14:47
mlavalleI also have power there14:47
mlavalleI will take a look14:48
slaweqmlavalle: You have power everywhere :)14:48
jlibosvathere are also some bugs that are missing visibility:14:48
jlibosva#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/175923414:48
openstackLaunchpad bug 1759234 in neutron "Stable queens migrations not tagged" [Undecided,New]14:48
jlibosva#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/175751314:48
openstackLaunchpad bug 1757513 in neutron "standardattrdescription clobbers existing description API attr" [Undecided,New]14:48
jlibosvaand14:48
jlibosva#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/175835314:48
openstackLaunchpad bug 1758353 in neutron "neutron - qr- and qg- interfaces looses their vlan tag" [Undecided,New]14:48
jlibosvaas we're running out of time, I'll just leave them there if anybody wants to have a peak and are able to triage from the top of head14:49
mlavalleok, I will take a look14:49
jlibosvaswami is a bug deputy for this week14:49
mlavalleThanks for giving them visiblity14:49
jlibosva#topic Docs14:49
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jlibosvaboden: hi, do you have any updates re. docs?14:49
mlavalleyeah, I spoke to swami last Thursday and he ia aware and ready to serve14:49
jlibosvanice :)14:50
bodenjlibosva nothing exciting that I’m aware of14:50
jlibosvaboden: ok, thanks. Don't go far14:50
jlibosva#topic neutron-lib14:50
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jlibosvaboden: hi :)14:50
bodenjust a quick FYI; I’ve start on the rehome db patches for the specs we discussed.. I want to get them going ASAP b/c I think the consumption is pretty wide-spread and will take awhile14:51
bodenI can ref patches for review next week… ATM there’s only one out there14:51
bodenthat’s all I really have unless others have something to add14:51
jlibosvathanks boden14:51
hoangcx_mlavalle: Regarding the topic, could you please help to land this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439972/ ?14:51
hoangcx_mlavalle: it is in queue for a while :)14:52
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mlavallehoangcx_: yeap, I'll land it14:52
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hoangcx_mlavalle: thanks again, sir14:52
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jlibosvaanybody has anything else to add to neutron-lib topic?14:53
hongbin_i want to bring up this one14:53
hongbin_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523471/14:53
jlibosvathanks14:53
hongbin_there are two options for defining hte attributes, static or dynamic14:54
hongbin_we need to decide because other extension rehome might need to do the same14:54
mlavalleI'll revisit it today14:55
hongbin_mlavalle: thanks14:55
mlavallethanks for bringing it up14:55
jlibosvathanks hongbin_14:56
jlibosvaI skipped the CLI/SDK topic today as amotoki is not here14:56
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jlibosva#topic Open discussion14:57
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jlibosvadoes anybody have a topic to discuss?14:57
jlibosvawe have 2 minutes left :)14:57
mlavalleTime well managed jlibosva :-)14:58
jlibosvathanks lol14:58
jlibosvaso I guess if there is nothing, we can get a minute back14:58
jlibosvathanks everyone for showing up :)14:58
jlibosva#endmeeting14:59
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slaweq#startmeeting neutron_qos15:00
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slaweqhi on another meeting :)15:00
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rubasovhi again15:01
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slaweqhi rubasov15:01
slaweqmlavalle: will You attend?15:01
mlavalleo/15:01
mlavalleof course15:01
slaweqgreat15:01
slaweqI don't think there will be anyone else here so we can start IMO15:02
slaweq#topic RFEs15:02
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slaweqfirst rfe15:02
slaweq#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/159661115:02
openstackLaunchpad bug 1596611 in neutron "[RFE] Create L3 floating IPs with qos (rate limit)" [Wishlist,Fix committed] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889)15:02
slaweqI would like to announce that it's finally done15:02
slaweqscenario tests are merged finally15:03
mlavalle\o/15:03
slaweqthere is some issue with DVR but it will be treated as bug15:03
slaweqso rfe and BP can be closed finally (if it isn't yet)15:03
slaweqactually it is marked as "fix commited" so that's fine also15:04
slaweqso, next rfe is #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/172757815:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1727578 in neutron "[RFE]Support apply qos policy in VPN service" [Wishlist,Triaged]15:04
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slaweqthere wasn't to much changes on this one recently but today zhaobo6 wrote there that he will continue work on this specs15:05
slaweqspecs is at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531074/15:05
slaweqso I don't think that there is anything to add on this one today15:05
slaweqnext one on my list is #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/156096315:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1560963 in neutron "[RFE] Minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress]15:06
slaweqand TBH I didn't have any time to work on PoC for such backend implementation for minimum bandwidth15:06
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slaweqif there is someone else who would like to work on it - feel free to take it :)15:07
slaweqI will try to email ralonsoh and ask for some details how he planned to do it in the past15:07
mlavallewhen we say eggress...15:07
mlavallewho's point of view is that?15:08
slaweqit's VM's point of view15:08
slaweqso this is direction which is harder to implement15:08
slaweqbut it's the one which makes more sense from user's perspective15:09
rubasovI'm a bit lost15:10
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slaweqrubasov: why?15:10
rubasovisn't this completed for at least SR-IOV?15:10
slaweqfor SR-IOV yes15:10
mlavallehttps://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/admin/config-qos.html15:10
rubasovis the RFE for all drivers then?15:10
slaweqbut it isn't done for linuxbridge and for ovs15:10
njohnstono/15:10
rubasovokay, got it, thanks15:10
mlavalleahhh ok, that is what got rubasov and me confused15:11
slaweqit was quite easy to do it for sr-iov15:11
slaweqbut it is much harder for other backends15:11
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slaweqas traffic which is egress from VM is in fact ingress from bridge perspective15:11
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mlavalleyeap15:11
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slaweqand tc don't do shaping on ingress :/15:12
mlavallewe cannot shape it15:12
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slaweqso we will probably need to play with ifb devices to achieve that15:12
slaweqbut I have no any experience with this15:12
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mlavalleI guess time to experiment and learn15:13
slaweqmlavalle: yes, excactly :)15:13
slaweqso, moving on to the next one?15:14
mlavalle+15:14
slaweqnext one is #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/157898915:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)15:14
slaweqand it is related to previous one :)15:14
slaweqrubasov: You are working on it now, right?15:15
rubasovI just uploaded a new patch set for the spec15:15
slaweqyes, I saw it and will try to do review today or tomorrow morning15:15
rubasovincludes an idea how to use binding:profile15:15
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mlavallerubasov: did my comment about using binding:vnic_type and binding:profile make sense?15:16
mlavallegreat15:16
rubasovtomorrow I hope to look into how qos rule validation work15:16
rubasovmlavalle: absolutely15:16
slaweqrubasov: ping me if You will have any questions about this validation15:16
slaweqI was doing it so I hope I will be able to help :)15:16
mlavalleI think the same will aplly to the spec on the nova side15:16
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mlavallewe can simplify several things by comminicating with binding:profile15:17
rubasovbecause I'm not yet satisfied with having two rules (one for data plane enforcement, one for placement enforcement) either15:17
rubasovslaweq: will do, thanks15:17
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mlavalletoday I will try to provide feedback on the Nova side15:18
rubasovmlavalle: yep, it simplifies for neutron, but it complicates for nova15:18
mlavalleand tomorrow I will try to come back to the Neutron one15:18
rubasovmlavalle: because that information first has to go down to nova-compute (today it does not)15:18
rubasovmlavalle: but I'm talking about that to gibi15:19
mlavalleok15:19
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slaweqI want also to mention that lajoskatona_ did 2 patches related to this rfe for neutron-lib: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554532/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552938/15:21
slaweqplease add it to Your list of reviews :)15:21
rubasovI hope to catch up with Lajos's patches soon15:21
slaweqrubasov: thx15:21
lajoskatona_Slaweq: I just on the way to refresh one of those15:22
slaweqlajoskatona_: thx for info15:22
mlavalleNice!15:22
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slaweqmoving on to the next one15:23
slaweqthere is one postponed rfe: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/150562715:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1505627 in neutron "[RFE] QoS Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) Support" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee)15:24
slaweqI just wanted to mention that reedip told me recently that he should soon work on it again15:24
slaweqif there are no questions about rfe we can go to next topic I think15:25
njohnstonsince this is just enabling ECN autonegotiation as opposed to actually managing anything within ECN I think this should be not too difficult15:25
slaweqnjohnston: right, I think that this one should be easy to implement15:26
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slaweqok, going on to next topic15:28
slaweq#topic Bugs15:28
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slaweqthere is one "fresh" bug #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/175831615:28
openstackLaunchpad bug 1758316 in neutron "Floating IP QoS don't work in DVR router" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889)15:28
slaweqit is related to FIP QoS and DVR15:28
slaweqI found that it's not working fine in our dvr scenario job15:29
slaweqso for now I added patch to skip this test if dvr is enabled: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555747/15:29
slaweqand I hope that LIU Yulong will find out why it's not working properly15:29
mlavalleis he aware?15:30
slaweqyes, he even wrote some comment there15:31
mlavalleok15:31
mlavallehe is good following up15:31
slaweqI will try to ask him about progress this week15:31
slaweqany questions on this one?15:31
mlavallenot from me15:32
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njohnstonnope15:32
slaweqok, I have also 2 old bugs on my list:15:32
slaweq#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/163918615:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1639186 in neutron "qos max bandwidth rules not working for neutron trunk ports" [Low,Confirmed]15:33
slaweqand #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/173285215:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1732852 in neutron "neutron don't support Router gateway rate limit " [Low,In progress]15:33
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slaweqwith both of them still nothing changed since long time15:33
slaweqspeaking about #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1732852 - I don't know if we can do anything with it15:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1732852 in neutron "neutron don't support Router gateway rate limit " [Low,In progress]15:34
slaweqthat can only work if veth will be used15:34
slaweqbut I don't know if we can do anything else except mention that constraint in docs15:34
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slaweqlike was done some time ago: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523153/15:35
slaweqI know that Ihar wanted to enforce using veth if rate limit is used but I'm not sure if that is good approach15:36
slaweqmlavalle: what do You think about that?15:36
mlavalledon't know. let me look into it15:37
mlavalleI'll get back to you15:37
slaweqmlavalle: sure, maybe You can just wrote a comment in this bug report if You will read it15:37
mlavalleI will do that15:38
slaweqthx a lot mlavalle15:38
slaweqand that was all on my bugs list for today15:38
slaweqany questions?15:38
slaweqsomething to add?15:38
mlavallenope15:38
mlavallepretty good update15:38
slaweqthx15:39
mlavallethanks for keeping track of all this15:39
njohnston+1 really awesome job slaweq15:39
slaweqso if anyone has anything to other to talk about I think we can finish earlier today :)15:39
slaweqnjohnston: thx :)15:39
* slaweq will have few minutes before next meeting15:39
slaweqthx for attending guys15:40
slaweqand btw. happy easter to all of You15:40
mlavalleSame to you!15:40
slaweqthx15:40
slaweq#endmeeting15:40
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slaweq#startmeeting neutron_ci16:00
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slaweqhi16:00
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jlibosvalate o/16:01
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slaweqit's my first time as chair of this meeting so please be tolerant for me :)16:01
slaweqlet's go16:02
slaweq#topic Actions from prev meeting16:02
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slaweqjlibosva to take a look on dvr trunk tests issue: http://logs.openstack.org/32/550832/2/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario/6d09fd8/logs/testr_results.html.gz16:02
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jlibosvaI spend a fair amount of time digging into it but I haven't been able to root cause it. I can see some errors in ovs firewall but that's recovered16:03
slaweqjlibosva: any updates?16:03
slaweqsorry :)16:03
jlibosvaI'll keep digging into it. I might need to send some additional debug patches16:03
ihrachysdo we have a bug report for the issue?16:03
jlibosvano, not yet16:03
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jlibosvait could be related to the old issue with sending update security group before firewall is initialized that we had in the past16:04
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slaweqjlibosva: but AFAIR it happens only in those tests related to trunk, right?16:05
jlibosvayes, only for trunk16:05
jlibosvaand it blocks SSH to parent port16:05
slaweqmaybe You could add some additional logs with e.g. security groups or something like that and try to spot it once again in job to check what's there?16:06
slaweqor freeze test node if it will happen, log into it and debug there16:07
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slaweqAFAIK it happens quite often so it should be doable IMO16:07
jlibosvaok, I'll try that. thanks for tips. about freezing test node, is it offical or do I need to inject ssh key?16:07
slaweqit is official but You should ask on infra channel for that16:08
slaweqand give them Your ssh key16:08
slaweqI was trying it once with debugging linuxbridge jobs16:08
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slaweqI was also trying to do remote pdb and telnet to it when test fails - and that works also fine for me :)16:08
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ihrachysslaweq, man you should document it all16:09
ihrachysI don't think a lot of people are aware of how to do it16:09
ihrachysI mean, that doc would be gold16:09
slaweqihrachys: ok, I will try to write it in docs16:10
slaweq#action slaweq will write docs how to debug test jobs16:10
ihrachysthanks!16:10
slaweqok, moving on16:10
slaweqnext was slaweq to check why dvr-scenario job is broken with netlink errors in l3 agent log16:11
slaweqcreated bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/175725916:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1757259 in neutron "Netlink error raised when trying to delete not existing IP address from device" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)16:11
slaweqand fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554697/ (merged)16:11
slaweqand last action from last week:16:11
slaweqslaweq to revert https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541242/ because the bug is probably fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/545820/416:12
slaweqrevert done: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554709/16:12
slaweqit looks that this issue isn't fixed still (but it happens much less frequently)16:12
slaweqso I will keep debugging it if I will spot this issue again16:12
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slaweqany questions/someting to add? or can we move on to next topic?16:13
ihrachysI don't have anything16:14
slaweqok, so next topic16:14
slaweq#topic Grafana16:14
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slaweqhttp://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate16:14
slaweqbtw. I have one question to You16:14
slaweqdo we have similar grafana dashboard but for stable branches?16:14
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slaweqI am only aware of this one which shows results from master branch16:15
ihrachysno we don't16:15
ihrachysit was in my todo list for ages and it never bubbled up high enough16:15
slaweqah, ok16:16
ihrachysshould be quite easy though, copy the current one and replace master with whatever the string for stable query16:16
slaweqI will add it to my todo list then (but not too high also) :)16:16
ihrachyshave fun :)16:17
slaweqihrachys: thx16:17
slaweqok, so getting back to dashboard for master branch16:17
slaweqwe have 100% failures of neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario16:17
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slaweqsince few days at least16:18
ihrachysit's 7 days at least16:18
slaweqthere was problem with FIP QoS test but this one is skipped now in this job16:18
slaweqso I checked and found few example of failures16:18
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slaweqit looks that there are 2 main failures:16:18
slaweqissue with neutron_tempest_plugin.scenario.test_migration.NetworkMigrationFromDVRHA, like: http://logs.openstack.org/97/552097/8/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario/d242b10/logs/testr_results.html.gz16:19
slaweqand second issue with neutron_tempest_plugin.scenario.test_trunk.TrunkTest, like: http://logs.openstack.org/20/556120/12/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario/76d1a5b/logs/testr_results.html.gz16:19
haleybslaweq: the migration issue is interesting, i thought we had that working before16:20
slaweqhaleyb: for sure it wasn't failing 100% times :)16:20
ihrachyshaleyb, yes and it was very stable16:21
haleybi will have to take a look16:21
slaweqbut in all those cases it looks that reason of failure is problem with connectivity16:21
slaweqthx haleyb16:21
ihrachyshaleyb, see in instance boot log, metadata is not reachable16:21
slaweq#action haleyb to check router migrations issue16:21
ihrachys[  456.685625] cloud-init[1021]: 2018-03-27 09:08:57,215 - DataSourceCloudStack.py[CRITICAL]: Giving up on waiting for the metadata from ['http://10.1.0.2/latest/meta-data/instance-id'] after 121 seconds16:21
ihrachysand it's because of "Connection refused"16:22
ihrachysslaweq, as for trunk, it's the same as jlibosva was looking at?16:23
jlibosvaright16:23
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jlibosvaI was just about to write it16:23
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slaweqyes, it looks that it's the same16:23
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slaweqthere is much more such examples in recent patches so it should be relatively easy to debug :)16:25
slaweq(I don't know if it's possible to reproduce locally)16:25
slaweqok, from other frequently failing jobs we have also neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full which failure rate is about 50%16:26
ihrachysyeah it's like that for quite a while16:26
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slaweqI found that in most cases failures are also related to broken connectivity, like e.g.             * http://logs.openstack.org/52/555952/2/check/neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full/9f94fa4/logs/testr_results.html.gz16:27
slaweqihrachys: yes, but I wanted to mention it at least :)16:27
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slaweqahh, and one more thing, there are some periodic jobs failing 100% times16:28
slaweqlike e.g. Openstack-tox-py35-with-oslo-master16:28
slaweqmy first question to You is: where I can find results of such tests? :)16:28
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ihrachyshttp://logs.openstack.org/periodic/git.openstack.org/openstack/neutron/master/16:29
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ihrachysthen dive into a job dir16:29
ihrachysand sort by time16:29
ihrachysand check the latest16:29
ihrachyswhich is http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/git.openstack.org/openstack/neutron/master/openstack-tox-py27-with-oslo-master/f65fec8/job-output.txt.gz16:29
slaweqthx ihrachys16:29
ihrachysDuplicateOptError: duplicate option: polling_interval16:29
ihrachysI can take a look16:30
ihrachysprobably a conflict in the same section between an oslo lib and our options16:30
slaweq#action ihrachys to take a look at problem with openstack-tox-py35-with-oslo-master periodic job16:30
slaweqthx16:30
slaweqexcept those jobs I think it is quite fine now16:31
ihrachysyeah. the unit test failure rate is a bit higher than I would expect but seems consistent with other jobs.16:31
ihrachysmaybe our unit tests are just as good now that they catch majority of issues :)16:31
slaweqmaybe :)16:32
mlavalle++16:32
njohnstonwe can always hope16:32
mlavallehopefully16:32
slaweqok, moving on to next topic16:32
slaweq#topic Fullstack16:32
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slaweqfullstack is now at similar rate as functional and tempest-plugin-api tests so it's fine16:33
slaweqwe had one issue with it during last week16:33
slaweqBug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/175708916:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1757089 in neutron "Fullstack test_port_shut_down(Linux bridge agent) fails quite often" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)16:33
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slaweqbut it is (I hope) already fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554940/16:33
slaweqanother problem is mentioned before bug with starting nc process: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/174440216:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1744402 in neutron "fullstack security groups test fails because ncat process don't starts" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)16:34
slaweqFor now I added small patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556155/ and when it fails I want to check if it's because IP wasn't configured properly or there is some different problem with starting nc proces16:35
slaweqanyone wants to add anything?16:36
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slaweqor should we move on?16:36
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jlibosvanothing from me :)16:36
jlibosvaI'm just amazed how many things you can do16:36
slaweqthx :)16:37
ihrachysjlibosva, THIS16:37
ihrachyssometimes I feel embarrassed16:37
ihrachys:)16:37
slaweqactually I have one more question here :)16:37
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slaweqas fullstack is voting since 2 weeks and I don't think there are some big problems with it, should we consieder to make it gating also?16:38
mlavallewe are before Rocky-1, so it's a good time to give it a try16:38
ihrachys+16:38
mlavalleif not now, then when?16:39
slaweqgreat, I will send patch for it then16:39
jlibosvayay16:39
slaweq#action slaweq to make fullstack job gating16:39
slaweqok, next topic16:39
slaweq#topic Scenarios16:39
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slaweqwe already talked about issues with dvr scenario job16:40
slaweqso I only want to mention about linuxbridge job16:40
slaweqwe had two issues during last week:16:40
slaweqboth were in stable/queens branch only16:40
slaweqfirst problem was due to we forgot to backport https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555263/ to queens so it wasn't configured and fip qos test was failing there16:41
slaweqand second due to we forgot to backport https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554859/ and this job was failing a lot due to ssh timeouts16:41
slaweqthis was a problem as this job is voting also in stable/queens now16:41
slaweqbut I think it's fine now16:41
slaweqand this job is on good level of failures again :)16:42
ihrachysvery nice16:42
slaweqso I wanted to ask about making this job gating also - what You think about it?16:43
mlavallelet's do one one week16:43
mlavalleand then we add the next16:43
mlavallehow about that?16:43
slaweqmlavalle: sure, fine for me :)16:43
mlavallethat way we don't drive ourselves crazy in case something starts to fail16:44
slaweqmlavalle: agree16:44
slaweqso I will back with this question next week then :)16:44
mlavalleI know you will16:45
slaweqLOL16:45
mlavallerelentless Hulk16:45
mlavalle:-)16:45
slaweqok, so that's all what I have on my list for today16:45
slaweqtopic #Open discussion16:45
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slaweqI wanted to ask You to review  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552846/16:46
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slaweqit's my first attempt to move some job definition to zuul v3 format16:46
slaweqit looks that it works for this job16:46
mlavalleahh nice16:46
slaweqandreaf was reviewing it from zuul point of view and it is fine for him16:46
mlavallewill take a look16:46
slaweqso I think it's ready to review by You also16:47
slaweqthx mlavalle16:47
ihrachysif andreaf is fine it must be ok. :)16:47
ihrachyswill do16:47
slaweqhe gave +1 on one of patchsets - I will ask him also to take a look again now16:47
mlavalleI want to migrate also job definitions. so we can partner doing it16:47
slaweqmlavalle: what job definitions You want to migrate? from neutron repo?16:48
mlavalleyeah I was thinking of those16:48
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slaweqI can help You with it if You want16:49
slaweqah, and one more question about tempest jobs16:49
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mlavallesure, let's partner as I said16:50
slaweqwhen I was checking grafana today I found that two jobs: Neutron-tempest-ovsfw and neutron-tempest-multinode-full are quite stable in last few weeks also16:50
slaweqYou can check it http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?from=1516976912028&to=1522153712028&panelId=8&fullscreen16:50
slaweqso my question is: do You want to make them voting some day?16:51
ihrachyswhat's this multinode-full job about? how is it different from dvr-ha one? do we plan to replace it with dvr-ha eventually?16:51
slaweqihrachys: I don't know to be honest16:52
slaweqI just found it on graphs and wanted to ask :)16:52
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mlavalleit might end up being functionally a subset of the dvr-ha16:52
slaweqihrachys: I can compare those jobs for You if You want16:52
ihrachysI am actually surprised we don't have a multinode tempest full job that would vote :)16:52
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mlavalleso let's clarify the differences and then we can make a decision16:53
slaweqok, fine for me16:53
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ihrachysmlavalle, the thing is, dvr-ha would probably take some time to get to voting, so should we maybe enable the regular one (I believe it's legacy routers) while dvr-ha is being worked on, then revisit?16:53
ihrachysslaweq, + would be nice to understand the diff to judge16:54
mlavalleI agree that we should have a voting multinode16:54
slaweq#action slaweq will check difference between neutron-tempest-multinode-full and neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full16:54
ihrachysalso, source of this job is important. it could be the regular is defined in tempest16:54
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mlavalleihrachys so I agree with you16:55
slaweqgreat, thx for opinions16:56
slaweqand what about ovsfw job? is it to early for this one to make it voting?16:56
slaweqit was failing 100% times at the beginning of february16:56
mlavalleshould be voting at some point. I don't see why not16:57
slaweqbut since few weeks it is better IMHO - spikes are same as for other jobs so it doesn't looks like some issues specific with this job exectly16:57
ihrachysyeah though again, maybe dvr-ha one should incorporate this firewall driver and effectively replace it16:57
jlibosvabut I think it also have some additional failure, no?16:57
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slaweqjlibosva: I don't know about any issue specific to this one16:58
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jlibosvaah, right. it copies other jobs nicely last 7 days16:59
ihrachysthe way I see it, there are two major setup options for neutron in-tree stuff: first is old - legacy l3, iptables... another is new stuff - dvr/ha, ovsfw. to keep the number of jobs from blowing further up, I would recommend we try to keep those two major kinds of setups as targets and try to consolidate features around them16:59
slaweqok, I think we can check it for few more weeks and decide then as we are almost out of time now16:59
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mlavallethat's good advice ihrachys. Thanks :-)16:59
jlibosvaI think that was agreed on some PTG but never formally documented16:59
slaweqok, we are out of time now17:00
ihrachysyeah17:00
slaweq#endmeeting17:00
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slaweqthx for attending17:00
slaweqsee You17:00
mlavalleo/17:00
jlibosvathanks :) o/17:00
ihrachysslaweq, thanks for leading the meeting, you are doing very nice!17:00
mlavalleslaweq: you did a great job leading the meeting17:00
slaweqihrachys: mlavalle: thx a lot, I was trying to do my best17:01
mlavalleThanks!17:01
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fungiany infra people around?19:00
AJaegero/19:01
fungilet's see if i remember how to do this19:01
ianwo/19:01
pabelangerhello19:01
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fungithis week we have action items assigned to and topics proposed by corvus, fungi, dmsimard (by proxy via clarkb) and anteaya19:02
anteayapresent19:02
corvuso/19:02
fricklero/19:02
fungii'll just assume dmsimard is around to talk about limestone troubleshooting later in the meeting, or that frickler, pabelanger et al have a fair amount of detail too19:03
fungi#startmeeting infra19:03
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 27 19:03:39 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is fungi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:03
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'infra'19:03
fungi#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting19:03
fungi#topic Announcements19:03
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fungi#info clarkb is travelling this week, which is why I am returning as a guest lecturer19:04
fungihe thankfully didn't leave me any new announcements, and i wasn't creative enough to come up with more than that one19:04
fungi#topic Actions from last meeting19:05
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fungi#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-03-20-19.01.html Minutes from last meeting19:05
fungi"1. (none)"19:05
fungiand done19:05
fungi#topic Specs approval: Amend top-level project hosting spec (corvus)19:06
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fungi#link https://review.openstack.org/555104 Amend top-level project hosting spec19:06
AJaegerlecturer? Ok, I'll move a few rows up and listen...19:06
corvusi went around and got informal support for this change from almost everyone who reviewed the original19:07
corvusenough so that i went ahead and actually implemented the change19:07
fungiyeah, this one is really just a minor adjustment to the git hosting part of the hosting spec anyway19:07
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corvusbut now (or soon) would be a good time to raise objections or questions on it :)19:07
corvusi think we may be only minutes away from declaring that entire spec implemented19:08
fungiwe're just about to the point where that spec can be moved to implemented if this change is approved, right?19:08
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fungiheh19:08
corvusyeah, i mean, we might already be there if i weren't typing with a sandwich in my hand19:08
fungifastest enter key in the west19:08
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fungii'll risk incurring the wrath of our illustrious ptl and declare open season for roll call on this, since he's already put a roll call vote on it himself19:09
corvusi think that's appropriate19:09
fungi#info Infra Council voting is open on the "Amend top-level project hosting spec" change until 19:00 UTC on Thursday, March 2919:10
fungiany other comments before we continue with the agenda?19:10
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fungi#topic Priority Efforts: A Task Tracker for OpenStack - utf8mb4 transition (fungi)19:11
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fungijust a quick note that diablo_rojo discovered a while back we couldn't import lp bugs containing 4-byte characters into storyboard19:11
fungii've been hacking on solving it, and there are a couple remaining outstanding changes i've tested manually on storyboard-dev so that we can move forward there19:12
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corvusi bet i can guess which emoji caused the problem19:12
dmsimard\o19:12
fungi#link https://review.openstack.org/555787 Use utf8mb4 for MySQL database charset (puppet-storyboard)19:13
diablo_rojoLooks like py27 & py35 failed again on your latest patch :/19:13
dmsimard(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ < corvus19:13
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corvusthere was a very specific emoji which took out etherpad.o.o during a summit...19:13
fungihttps://review.openstack.org/556626 For utf8mb4 shorten teams.name and users.email (storyboard)19:13
dmsimardinteresting19:13
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fungiactually, the problem emoji was something like "person with both hands raised in celebration" which appears in babel install stdout these days19:14
diablo_rojocorvus, out of curiousity, what emoji?19:14
diablo_rojoBut also didn't show up in the lp bug actually.19:14
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fungithe one which notoriously took down etherpad at the summit was teh snowman19:14
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corvusfungi: oh was it?  i thought it was... nevermind.19:15
fungianyway, barring anything beyond a minor typo failing the unit tests on 556626 those could both use quick reviews19:15
* mordred has already reviewed19:15
corvusi thought it was, pardon my language, U+1f4a9.19:15
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* dmsimard googled that19:15
fungicorvus: it's possible the first etherpad outage was a different codepoint, yes, and then the subsequent deaths were all snowman tests19:16
* mordred did too19:16
fungianyway, i didn't have much else to add here other than it would be nice to be able to keep up our momentum on project imports, so figured i'd highlight these priority changes19:16
dmsimard+1, we need to ditch launchpad one day :)19:16
dmsimard(and ubuntu one SSO)19:17
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fungi#topic Priority Efforts: Zuul v3 - git.zuul-ci.org (corvus)19:17
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fungii guess this is now a thing?19:17
corvuser, as mentioned, this is nearly done19:17
corvusit may in fact be done19:17
corvusi just hit a missing css file in one of my tests19:18
mordredit renders for me19:18
pabelangerand me!19:18
corvusso i need to figure out whether all the servers are identical, or if i left git08 different somehow, or if i just caught it mid-rollout19:18
fungidone-ish!19:18
corvusi may ask for help testing in a bit, but am not ready now19:18
mordred$ git clone https://git.zuul-ci.org/zuul19:18
mordredjust worked fine for me19:18
corvusanyway, hopefully it's the latter, and it's all done :)19:19
fungii suppose the next big chunk will be updating zuul repos to switch git references19:19
corvusyeah, that's mostly documentation19:19
corvusthe zuul and gitreview files won't change19:19
fungisure19:19
fungimore critical that people who want to continuously consume the zuul stdlib will be able to use git.zuul-ci.org urls now19:20
fungithough i suppose things like puppet-zuul can also be adjusted in time19:21
fungianything else you wanted to say about this, or does anyone still have any questions about it?19:21
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dmsimardAre we planning to move things like puppet-zuul and puppet-nodepool there ?19:21
fungiobviously closely related to the spec change discussed earlier19:21
fungidmsimard: i'm not aware of any immediate plans to do that, but it would likely be possible19:21
corvusdmsimard: not atm; i don't think the zuul project has taken on packaging/distribution tasks19:22
dmsimardokay -- and another question19:22
corvus(and if we did, i can think of two choices which would probably be ahead of puppet on our list)19:22
fungiheh19:22
dmsimardzuul and zuul-jobs are currently mirrored on both git.o.o and git.zuul-ci.org by gerrit automatically ? or by other means19:22
dmsimard(and I guess the other repos)19:22
corvusdmsimard: automatically. git.zuul-ci.org are symlinks on the git farm to the git.o.o repos19:23
fungidmsimard: it's all the same server, just some magic linking to make it appear in different sites19:23
dmsimardah, nice. thanks.19:23
corvusthe magic is configured in projects.yaml in project-config19:23
dmsimardI'll have a look19:23
fungidmsimard: also worth reading that spec/change19:23
fungiwhich roughly outlines how it works19:23
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dmsimardI don't have anything else, we can move on :)19:24
fungi#topic Clouds update (dmsimard)19:25
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dmsimardohai19:25
fungiclarkb suggested maybe you could give us a brief summary of the limestone situation19:25
fungiwell, you or somebody, but i picked you because you seemed to have the most background on it19:25
fungifeel free to delegate ;)19:26
dmsimardThe networking is still giving us a bit of trouble. My understanding is that there's two main problems still in the process of being resolved19:26
dmsimard#1 In some roles we assumed that nodes always had an ipv4 which was the case until Limestone came around with ipv6 only nodes19:27
fungiwell, most recently the case, it was last the case with osic before the great ansibling19:27
ianw#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556747/19:27
fricklersee https://review.openstack.org/556784 too19:27
dmsimard#2 We've witnessed some DNS lookup failures (most notably with pypi? maybe with other things) so we need to fix DNS things too.19:27
dmsimardWhat we've done for the time being is that we pulled limestone out by assigning custom nodepool labels (prefixed with limestone-) and these are being tested under https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556849/19:28
ianwcurrent theory on this from me is that we're using the v4 nat gateway, and we know that to be a little unreliable, because of a bad ipv6 detection in unbound19:28
ianw#link https://review.openstack.org/55674019:28
fungiso in both cases it's basically been a regression of things we had working with osic under a similar network model, but lost in the zuulv3 transition because we didn't have anywhere to keep us honest about continuing to support that model19:29
dmsimardThese custom labels will allow us to make sure that the patches we want to land are indeed fixing the issues we're seeing without impacting our regular customers :)19:29
pabelangerYah, I feel we had this same issue on osic with DNS19:29
pabelangerand added the logic to do ipv6 there too19:29
dmsimardfungi: I wasn't root back when OSIC was a thing so I'll have to defer to the others for that19:29
fungipabelanger: oh, we did. we had a whole dns-over-ipv6 chooser in the old ready scripts19:29
pabelangerYup19:29
corvuswhich, to be fair, we still have, though as 556740 shows, it may not be working19:30
ianwi'm uncertain if it was working, and something changed, or it never worked19:30
corvusdmsimard, mordred: if you have a sec to look at https://review.openstack.org/556740  --  several of us are curious as to (whether or why) that's necessary19:31
dmsimardcorvus: I've seen that and I am dubious as well, I intend on testing it but haven't got around to it yet19:31
dmsimardcorvus: these variables should be equivalent19:32
ianwthat's what i thought, there's a couple of links in there to the logs19:32
corvusshould we start by throwing some debug lines in that role?19:32
ianwcorvus: i can ...19:33
ianwsince it triggers on rax, there's a fair probability of hitting it for comparison purposes19:33
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fungimakes sense as that's also got global ipv6 by default19:34
clarkbya as does ovh except it doesnt work :(19:35
corvusi have looked at the supplied log, and the logs of a result including 556740 and agree that the old one lacks unbound_use_ipv6, and the new one has it19:36
corvusso that seems to indicate the change actually changes behavior.  why is still a mystery.19:37
pabelangerI wonder if we are missing facts on that playbook19:37
pabelangerbut hostvars is setup19:37
corvusit's the first pre-playbook, from base19:38
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mordred*weird*19:39
corvusi also verified the change correctly sets the value to false on a host w/o ipv619:40
fungiso we have evidence it does what we want, but no documented explanation for why it works that way?19:41
corvusfungi: that's where i am on the subject19:41
corvusi left a bewildered +219:41
ianwthat's about where i got to :)19:41
fungisomething we'd like to bring to upstream ansible attention?19:42
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pabelangerI'm a happy to add some debug statements and see if I can find out why it is failing, but agree, weird19:43
ianwi can try a few debug statements and file an issues19:43
pabelangerianw: happy to debug along side19:44
fungisounds good19:44
fungii like when we figure out how to fix thnigs, but i'm left feeling uneasy when we can't explain why the fix works (or is even necessary)19:45
fungiif it's fixed via unintended side-effect then there's an increased risk it will re-break19:45
corvusi reckon we can continue to debug this post-meeting.  this is the only limestone-blocking change that hasn't merged?19:45
fungiwhen assumptions spontaneously change out from under us19:45
corvuswait a sec19:46
corvusthis role runs in base/pre, right?19:46
ianwcorvus: i think so19:46
corvusthat means it's trusted, so it's not self-testing19:46
corvuswhich means my analysis of the results are wrong, and it may not be safe to land without going through the base-test dance.19:47
* fungi hadn't looked, assumed this was being tested via support already landed to base-test19:47
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pabelangerdon't we run it from base-minimal?19:47
pabelangerfor ozj19:47
corvuswe've got nice big warnings around the base job itself, but not the roles it uses19:48
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corvusit may be covered by the integration jobs; if so, perhaps it's safe to land?  i'm not sure what that means for evaluating whether the change works though.19:48
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corvusanyway, perhaps dmsimard, ianw, i, others can work through that some more post-meeting19:49
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pabelangerwfm19:50
fungicool, we'll move on with the agenda in that case19:50
fungithanks!19:50
fungi#topic LimeSurvey spec (anteaya)19:50
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fungi#link https://review.openstack.org/349831 Add survey spec19:51
fungii gather anteaya is interested in breathing some new life into this proposed spec pleia2 put together a couple years ago19:51
anteayayes19:51
anteayawe don't have an open source survey tool and I think that it would be useful to have one19:51
anteayaI'd use it19:51
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anteayasince the last patchset a puppet-limesurvey module has appeared19:52
fungiwe've heard from various corners of the community that they'd be interested in having ways to put together ad hoc surveys19:52
corvuswe could at least use it to verify interest in the tool.  ;)19:52
anteayaand I have learned via testing with fungi that users just need a token to take the survey, the don't need to register19:52
anteayacorvus, :)19:52
fungiheh19:52
anteayaso perhaps we can launch it with the current server auth19:53
fungiso i guess this is as much to refresh visibility into the spec and see if anyone has any recent input on it before we see about putting it up for a council vote?19:53
anteayawhilst those that are dueling in the auth wars figure out a winner19:53
pabelangercould the civs software from cornell also be used for surveys? Just thinking about the discussions around elections19:53
fungicivs can be used for certain kinds of surveys19:54
anteayapabelanger, well the only thing I've ever seen it used for is elections19:54
anteayahard to use it for select one answer out of these ones, or fill in some text19:54
anteayaalso, correct me if I'm wrong civs sometimes has load issues on its servers19:54
fungiwell, what civs can't really do well is multi-question sorts of surveys, nor surveys with free-form answers19:54
anteayaindeed yes19:54
fungiwe could host our own instance of civs and may want to for other purposes19:54
anteayacivs is the tool for the method it advertizes19:55
pabelangerI think civs supports ' Allow voters to write in new choices', but I have never tested it19:55
fungibut the two tools aren't really filling the same needs19:55
pabelangerunsure about multi options19:55
anteayabut the surveys I want to offer need more flexibility in how questions are answered19:55
pabelangerack19:55
anteayaany objection to moving ahead with server auth for the time being?19:56
fungipabelanger: less about multi-option, more about your typicak feedback-style surveys where you're setting x-out-of-y values for some things, setting multi-select for some, entering your opinions on certain questions19:56
anteayaI'm on my own dime here so I will have to stand this up on a server for myself if this gets bogged down19:56
anteayabut thought I would try here first19:57
corvuswhat's the server auth for?19:57
anteayafor the admins19:57
anteayato set up the surveys and create the tokens for inviting users19:58
corvusis it like, we make a secret password and give it out to people who ask to be able to create surveys?19:58
anteayaor takers of surveys19:58
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anteayawell if that is the way infra wants to do it19:58
anteayaout of the box is is register with username email and password19:59
corvusit's not a preference, i'm trying to understand the question "any objection to moving ahead with server auth for the time being?"19:59
anteayaand, I believe, click on emailed verification19:59
* anteaya nods19:59
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fungii don't see any reason we couldn't turn up a trial deployment, especially if there's already a puppet module for it so it's just a patch to system-config and someone to enter hiera keys and run the launch script, which may allow us to suss out what the missing bits are for a more self-service experience for people who want to set up their own surveys (maybe we could set up surveys through20:00
anteayaso I don't know how infra wants to deal with who can register20:00
fungistructured metadata and code review instead of through service-specific accounts for example? i haven't looked at how it stores them or what sort of api it might have, just guessing)20:00
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fungioh, anyway, we're at time for today20:00
corvusalso, there's an openid module for apache, which may be able to be used as the "webserver-based" authentication.20:00
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anteayacorvus, could you add a link to that in the spec?20:01
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anteayathanks for the time20:01
fungiyeah, that's something clarkb has successfully coupled with some stuff20:01
clarkbits a bit clunky and has bugs but mostly works20:01
corvusnoted20:02
fungianyway, we're two minutes over, but doesn't sound like there are major concerns if somebody's volunteering to do the patch to system-config (and i can do the hiera/launch bits if nobody else wants to volunteer for those)20:02
anteayamy patch won't work but I can stand one up20:03
anteayacorrections welcome20:03
fungithat's why we have code review and tests!20:03
fungithanks everyone!20:03
anteaya:)20:03
fungi#endmeeting20:03
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