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andreaf#startmeeting qa17:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb 15 17:00:20 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is andreaf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'qa'17:00
andreaf#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_Feb_15th_2018_.281700_UTC.29 Today's agenda17:00
andreafo/ how's around today for the meeting?17:00
mguineyo/17:00
dmelladoo/17:02
andreafmtreinish, afazekas, felipemonteiro_ around?17:02
andreafI guess not17:03
andreafok let's get started17:03
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andreafFirst of all, welcome to the new PTL gmann_ !!17:04
andreafWe'll work on having up a smooth transition - I don't expect any bumps :)17:04
andreaf#topic Rocky PTG Planning17:04
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dmelladocongrats gmann! ;)17:04
mguineygrats!17:05
andreafAbout the PTG, the planning etherpad is still open for proposals / ideas17:05
andreaf#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-rocky-ptg PTG planning etherpad17:05
andreafso if you have any please add them in there17:05
felipemonteiro_andreaf: o/17:05
dmelladoandreaf: do you plan to join the infra session on the first two days?17:05
mtreinishandreaf: o/17:06
dmelladoI guess it'll be really useful to have someone from qa around there too17:06
andreafyes the first two days are infra / qa/ release mgmt / stable help room17:06
mtreinishdmellado: the first 2 days infra/qa/stable/release all share a room17:06
dmelladomtreinish: ack17:06
dmelladoI saw clarkb ethercalc but wanted to check with you too ;)17:07
andreafwe'll have a short lunch talk about zuulv3 at some point as well17:07
dmelladocool, I guess that's gotta be a hot topic17:07
clarkbya I didn't want to speak for the qa team and others on that schedule17:07
andreafand between now and the end of the PTG I would like to sort out all remaining issues on zuul v3 base jobs so definitely I will spend time on that17:08
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dmelladoawesome, thanks for that. I do also want to try having a working native zuulv3 job for kuryr-kubernetes too before going there and sorting issues17:09
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andreafok17:09
andreafone request when adding things to the etherpad add your name / nick next to it17:10
dmelladoI've still some doubts regarding the inheritance in jobs, when it comes from devstack-tempest17:10
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andreafdmellado if that's ok let's quickly get through the agenda and then discuss that?17:12
dmellado+117:12
andreafanything else on PTG planning?17:12
andreafdoes people fancy a QA evening event? dinner and/or drinks somewhere?17:13
dmelladoI'd be up for some drinks if you plan for it, my pleasure seeing you as usual xD17:14
andreafok I'll sync with gmann_ as well and send out a doodle or something17:14
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andreafok moving on17:14
andreaf#topic Tempest17:14
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andreaf#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tempest+status:open17:15
andreafThe main thing that's happening on Tempest from my side is still the zuul v3 stuff - migrating jobs and so17:15
andreafthere is quite some work to be done to get rid of all legacy jobs we have around, it may be a chance also to remove some old experimental ones17:16
andreafthe difficult bit is to provide folks with the right context to do ansible / zuul reviews on Tempest - hopefully we can spend some f2f during the PTG to improve on that17:17
andreafanything else on Tempest?17:17
dmelladothat'd be really great17:17
andreaf#topic Critical reviews17:18
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andreafAny review that require attention?17:18
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andreaf#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/544521/ this fixes the POST_FAILURE in the plugin sanity check job, it would be good to have it merged17:19
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andreafThe job is still broken though I asked chandankumar to have a look at it since it's not doing the right thing, plugins should be installed checked and removed but they're installed all together looking at the logs which is not right17:19
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andreafalso according to the job all plugins but one fail, which cannot be true...17:20
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mtreinishandreaf: there is the stestr migration patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:switch_stestr17:20
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andreafI still need to review the tempest one, sry about that17:21
andreaf#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:switch_stestr stestr patches17:22
andreaf#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521888/ Adding the stable/queens job for branchless repos and stable-periodic17:22
andreaf^^^ I'm about to write to the ML about that patch since I think we should start running py3 integration jobs on stable/periodic-stable as well17:23
andreafstable check is already running them from queens on, periodic stable is defined in the patch ^^^17:23
mtreinishandreaf: at some point we probably should just switch the jobs over to py3 by default17:24
mtreinishprobably not until we transition to 18.04 in the gate though17:24
andreafyeah well also the py3 job does not run swift17:24
mtreinishwell swift doesn't work with py3 :)17:25
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andreaftosky is looking into a job which runs py3 + swift on p2 as an option17:25
andreafs/p2/py217:25
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andreafok anything else on critical reviews?17:28
andreaf#topic Open Discussion17:29
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dmelladoso I guess there goes my question17:29
andreafdmellado do you want to ask your question?17:29
dmelladosure17:29
dmelladoI'm creating a jobn based on the devstack-tempest17:29
dmelladoand then another one which the one I create as a parent17:29
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dmelladohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/544959/8/.zuul.yaml17:29
dmelladowhat I did notice, is that on this 2nd one, if I add any additional devstack_services17:29
dmelladothey don't get there on the local.conf17:30
dmelladoam I missing something on the inheritance on zuul?17:30
dmelladoshouldn't those services just get added on top of the parent ones?17:30
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andreafdmellado: yeah they should17:32
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dmelladolooks like they aren't17:33
dmelladoI'm wondering if this is just because of the base: false or whatever17:33
dmelladoandreaf: you can check the generated local.conf here http://logs.openstack.org/59/544959/7/check/kuryr-kubernetes-tempest-base/582332c/controller/logs/local_conf.txt.gz17:34
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andreafUhm there may be a bug or so there I need to check I don't have an answer here17:35
dmelladoon my case I was expecting for octavia plugin and services to be available and they're not showing17:35
dmelladoandreaf: ack, thanks!17:35
dmelladoat least it looks like I wasn't in the wrong direction17:35
andreafThe job definition looks ok17:35
andreafZuul will merge the dicts so unless something wierd happens it should be fine...17:36
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dmelladoso something weird has happened then xD17:36
andreafPerhaps a patch on top with extra debugging might help17:36
dmelladoshould I open a bug?17:36
andreafYeah that would be fine17:37
dmelladoI'll add some debug and link that to the bug, thanks!17:37
andreafis it on purpose that barbican is in the required projects and plugins but not in the list of services?17:40
dmelladoandreaf: totally17:40
dmelladolooks like it's somehow used that way from the octavia folks17:40
dmelladoin any case, I'll recheck just in case17:40
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andreafdmellado: but looking at http://logs.openstack.org/59/544959/8/check/kuryr-kubernetes-tempest-octavia/c38d1ca/controller/logs/local_conf.txt.gz those services are in local.conf17:42
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andreafdmellado: the localrc looks good to me, disable_all_services comes first and then all requested services are enabled17:43
dmelladoandreaf: oh, wait17:43
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dmelladoI was looking to an outdated log17:43
dmelladonvm, I'll check what's going on17:43
dmelladowas just shocked about that17:43
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andreafdmellado: ok glad that works17:44
andreafok anything else for today?17:44
dmelladonof from my side, thanks in any case and sorry for the noise!17:44
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felipemonteiro_andreaf: i left a comment on your deprecation of tox -eall-plugin ps17:45
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felipemonteiro_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543974/17:46
andreaffelipemonteiro_ : so patrole uses all-plugins right?17:46
felipemonteiro_yes17:46
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andreaffelipemonteiro_: I wouldn't mind having a patrole specific tox entry, but I would like to discourage other / new plugins from using that17:47
felipemonteiro_i understand discussion around it, how it can break different plugins, how it reduces test isolation and so on17:48
dmelladoandreaf: btw, before I forget, the way to user LIBS_FROM_GIT=foo would just be libs_from_git: foo under vars, wouldn't it?17:48
felipemonteiro_but i'm not sure if there are any alternatives other than what you just mentioned17:48
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andreaffelipemonteiro_: I would not worry too much about that really the deprecation was meant for new / non-patrole plugins17:49
felipemonteiro_ok, thanks, i didn't -1 for a reason because it was just gentle reminder :)17:50
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andreaf dmellado: it should be enough to add the repos you want to required projects to have their sources with the right ref under /src and the devstack will copy them under /opt/stack17:51
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andreafdmellado: so I don't remember exactly but I think the install function will take the repo from the local folder if it's there - perhaps you can double-check17:52
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andreafok we're almost at time - anything esle?17:53
andreafelse17:53
dmelladothe only difference I can find is17:56
dmelladothe export of DEVSTACK_GATE_NEUTRON=117:56
dmelladowhich I'm not sure how is translated to ZuulV317:56
andreafyou don't need that in zuulv317:56
dmelladonor the tempest17:56
andreafit's on by default in the base job17:56
dmelladogot it17:56
dmelladoso I'll research then, thanks!17:56
andreafdmellado: I started putting some migration hints in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zuulv3-native-devstack-tempest-jobs, at the bottom17:57
andreaf#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zuulv3-native-devstack-tempest-jobs17:58
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andreafthanks everyone for attending today17:59
andreaf#endmeeting17:59
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* efried looks around21:01
dansmithefried: ssshhh21:01
melwitt#startmeeting nova21:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb 15 21:01:29 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is melwitt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)"21:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova'21:01
mriedemo/21:01
edmondswo/21:01
efried@/21:01
melwitthowdy everyone, welcome to the nova meeting21:01
tssuryao/\21:01
edleafe\o21:01
dansmitho/21:01
takashino/21:01
efriedtssurya brought katana21:01
tssuryaefried: :D21:02
melwitt#link agenda for this meeting: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting21:02
melwitt#topic release news21:02
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melwitt#link Queens release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Queens_Release_Schedule21:02
melwittI think we're going to have an rc2 for queens21:02
melwitt#link Queens RC2 TODOs: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-queens-release-candidate-todo21:03
mriedemyes21:03
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melwittlast I checked, there was one item/bug there21:03
mriedemi need to scrub which patches we want to include21:03
mriedemthe powervm one is a regression triggering rc221:03
mriedemso while we do that, i'll see which other patches we should include21:03
mriedemdepending on risk21:03
melwittokay, cool21:04
melwitt#link Queens blueprint burndown chart by mriedem: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-February/127402.html21:04
melwittmriedem sent a burndown chart report to the ML yesterday21:04
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melwittwe had a 70% completion percentage of blueprints in queens21:05
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melwitt*79%21:05
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melwittwhich was an improvement from pike with 72% completion percentage21:05
melwittgood info there, thanks for mriedem for putting it together21:05
mriedem\o/21:05
melwittI've created a wiki with the rocky release schedule dates21:06
melwitt#link Rocky release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Rocky_Release_Schedule21:06
melwittso do check that out for the milestone info for this cycle21:06
melwittfinally, ocata is going EOL soon21:06
melwitt#info Ocata enters Phase 3, security fixes only, EOL on 2018-02-2621:06
melwittany questions about release stuff?21:07
mriedemEOL?21:07
mriedemhmm21:07
melwittyeah, that's what I saw on the schedule21:07
* melwitt gets link21:07
mriedemit was a short cycle21:07
mriedemhttps://releases.openstack.org/21:07
mriedemi see it21:07
mriedemi'm just surprised, or had forgotten21:07
melwittah, yeah. I was surprised too21:08
mriedemgiven it took way longer to EOL newton,21:08
dansmithwell, newton EOL stretched on for a long time21:08
mriedemi don't expect ocata to be EOL by that date, but we'll see21:08
mriedemremember, LTS is just as easy as not telling tonyb to EOL anything21:08
melwittI don't expect it either. but just FYI21:08
melwitthaha, right21:08
melwitt#topic Bugs (stuck/critical)21:09
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melwitt#link queens-rc-potential bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=queens-rc-potential21:09
melwittbugs we are considering for rc2 should be tagged with this21:09
melwittand there are none right now21:09
edmondswI'll add that to the powervm bug21:09
melwittwell, none open21:09
edmondswhmm... already is21:10
edmondswthought I had21:10
melwittI think it's already tagged but doesn't show up in the query because it's fixed/closed21:10
melwittyeah21:10
edmondswright, for master but not for stable/queens21:10
edmondswso that's a nice little hold21:10
edmondswhole*21:10
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melwittoh, I see. okay21:10
mriedemwell, you can do an advanced search to find it21:10
melwittyeah, maybe I can make that link better to find more stuff21:11
melwittno critical bugs in the critical bug search, so that's good21:11
melwitt#info 32 new untriaged bugs (down 19 since the last meeting)21:11
melwittthanks to those who have been triaging bugs, that's a good improvement21:12
melwitt#link bug triage how-to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tags21:12
melwittif you'd like to help with bug triage, please see this guide on how-to. the easiest thing people can do is tag bugs with a category21:12
melwittthat helps a lot to sort things into buckets that domain experts can then triage21:12
melwitt#link untagged untriaged bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW21:12
melwittso there are the untagged bugs ^ we have 13 right now21:13
melwitt#help tag untagged untriaged bugs with appropriate tags to categorize them21:13
mriedemfwiw, i don't domain experts do any bug triage once tagged21:13
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mriedemyour best chance of getting someone to push a fix is probably during triage, but..21:13
mriedem*don't think21:13
mriedemi blame the ptl21:14
melwittyeah. I try to monitor some of the tags and triage but I'm not great about it21:14
melwittso ... it would be really cool if people took a look at some of the tags and try to help triage tags that they know :)21:14
melwitt#help consider signing up as a bug tag owner and help determine the validity and severity of bugs with your tag21:14
melwitt#link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html21:15
melwittgate has been working fairly well lately, AFAICT21:15
melwitt#link 3rd party CI status http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days21:15
melwittI feel like I've been seeing a lot of third party CI fails these days21:15
melwittso probably need to ping some people and see what's going on21:16
melwittany questions about bugs or gate status?21:16
melwitt#topic Reminders21:16
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melwitt#link Rocky PTG topics: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-rocky21:16
melwitthere's our etherpad for the PTG. please do check it out for info on topics being covered and some agenda scheduling for thursday21:17
melwittwe have time scheduled with the neutron, ironic, and cinder teams21:17
melwittgoing to be a busy day21:18
melwitt#link Queens retrospective: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-queens-retrospective21:18
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melwittwe're going to have a queens retrospective at the PTG. I was thinking maybe we should start with that on wednesday, since any takeaways might apply to our later discussions21:18
melwitttake a browse on the etherpad and add your thoughts and topics to cover at the PTG21:19
melwitt#link Rocky spec proposals: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/readme.html21:19
melwittrocky spec proposals are getting well under way, so now's the time to write and propose your specs. please see ^ for instructions how21:19
melwittand finally, we're signed up to take a team photo at the PTG, FYI21:20
melwitt#info nova team photo at 11:10-11:20 on Thursday morning at the PTG21:20
melwittany questions about PTG, retrospective, rocky specs?21:20
melwitt#topic Stable branch status21:20
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melwitt#link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/queens,n,z21:20
melwitt#link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z21:20
melwitt#link Pike 16.1.0 release proposed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/544020/21:21
melwitt#link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z21:21
mriedemwe flushed pike earlier in the week,21:21
mriedemlikely need to hit up ocata tomorrow21:21
melwittokay, cool21:21
mriedemi will bug lee, sylvain and dan appropriately21:21
melwittcool, thanks21:22
melwitt#topic Subteam Highlights21:22
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melwittdansmith: cells v2?21:22
dansmithnobody showed up for it this week, so we didn't have one21:22
melwittedleafe: scheduler?21:23
edleafeThe meeting wasn't too brief, but we only seemed to cover a few things.21:23
edleafeWe discussed the patch for supporting traits in Glance images.21:23
edleafethat's about it21:23
edleafeefried tried to discuss his NUMA spec, but for some reason the Glance traits thing kept popping back up.21:23
edleafeWe also had a quick discussion of the healthcheck spec.21:23
edleafeSince then it's been spec after spec after spec to review.21:23
melwittnice21:23
melwittokay, and I see for the notification subteam, gibi has left a note that there was no meeting this week21:24
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melwitt#topic Stuck Reviews21:24
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melwittthere aren't any items in the agenda. does anyone have any stuck reviews to discuss?21:24
melwitt#topic Open discussion21:25
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melwittagain, no items in the agenda. does anyone have anything to discuss openly?21:25
melwittokay, that sounds like a no21:26
melwittalright, I guess that's it. thanks everyone!21:26
edleafethanks melwitt!21:26
melwitt#endmeeting21:26
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